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wvreds
07-31-2011, 01:57 PM
Well we are about 2hrs from the deadline.......And nothing yet.. looks like old Walt sits on his thumb for the second year in a row....

mroby85
07-31-2011, 01:58 PM
Typical Reds.

R_Webb18
07-31-2011, 01:59 PM
good for him

brm7675
07-31-2011, 02:25 PM
How is it that the town of Cincy has not 1 but two of the dumbest people running their two major pro sports teams...really is cincy cursed or is it in the water...

R_Webb18
07-31-2011, 02:40 PM
How is it that the town of Cincy has not 1 but two of the dumbest people running their two major pro sports teams...really is cincy cursed or is it in the water...

i dont get this. every1 is saying make a move but out of every1 out there every1 says don't get him. ect ect ect. so which is it?

webbbj
07-31-2011, 02:41 PM
good decision, never give in, get players at our price

Votto4MVP
07-31-2011, 02:48 PM
At this point it doesnt make sense to make a move unless it will help you in 2012 and beyond. No point mortgaging your future when its gonna be tough to make the playoffs either way.


It makes more sense to go after a free agent in the offseason and not give up any pieces then to trade for one now, and still have to pay them either way.

knoonan991
07-31-2011, 02:51 PM
good decision, never give in, get players at our price

Exactly.

For those complaining, which player that has been dealt have you wanted the Reds to get?

mroby85
07-31-2011, 02:53 PM
Exactly.

For those complaining, which player that has been dealt have you wanted the Reds to get?

Hunter Pence.

malcontent
07-31-2011, 03:00 PM
Coal in our red Xmas stockings.

Rodriguez still out there, though.

brm7675
07-31-2011, 03:00 PM
Adding Hunter Pence would have brought a lot to this team and cost them not one single player that would have had an impact on the major league roster over the next 2-3 years. You would have solved 2 glaring issues and bettered your team. I have no problem with not going after Jiminez as I have real health concerns with him or Bourne as he will be a real PITA come the end of his contract due to his agent.

brm7675
07-31-2011, 03:01 PM
Coal in our red Xmas stockings.

Rodriguez still out there, though.

Rodriquez is nice, I would offer then Bailey and same a mid level prospect for him.

knoonan991
07-31-2011, 03:03 PM
Hunter Pence.

Phillies gave up TWO top 50 prospects for him. The only Reds prospect in the top 50 is Mesoraco.

knoonan991
07-31-2011, 03:04 PM
Rodriquez is nice, I would offer then Bailey and same a mid level prospect for him.

Homer Bailey > Wandy Rodriguez. Not just in regards to future value, he's a better pitcher.

R_Webb18
07-31-2011, 03:04 PM
Hunter Pence.

2 much

malcontent
07-31-2011, 03:05 PM
Rodriquez is nice, I would offer then Bailey and same a mid level prospect for him.
Totally agree. Bailey and mid-level prospect.

BTW, the Rockies should be ecstatic with the haul they got for Jiminez, IMO.

Red Raindog
07-31-2011, 03:24 PM
Totally agree. Bailey and mid-level prospect.

BTW, the Rockies should be ecstatic with the haul they got for Jiminez, IMO.

Wandy is in line to make 10 million in 2012 -- 13 million in 2013 & 13 million in 2014 which can be guaranteed if he meets some performance clause.

is he worth that?

Vottomatic
07-31-2011, 06:52 PM
Hunter Pence? Get real.

This team needs a true 4-hole hitter. He ain't it.

That would have been a bad trade.

Pence hit 1 HR in all of June. And 2 HR's in all of July. Wow! I bet that would have opposing pitchers scared of pitching around Votto!

sdwagers
07-31-2011, 09:31 PM
Hunter Pence? Get real.

This team needs a true 4-hole hitter. He ain't it.

That would have been a bad trade.

Pence hit 1 HR in all of June. And 2 HR's in all of July. Wow! I bet that would have opposing pitchers scared of pitching around Votto!

Agree - Pence is a fun player - but we need a big RH bat (Matt Kemp).

brm7675
08-01-2011, 10:54 AM
Hey we have Yonder who is a good bat...opps forgot he only plays first...well there is Devin...opps wait he is still in AAA....yep this team didn't need to add anyone..

Kiss the Baby00
08-01-2011, 11:13 AM
Wandy is in line to make 10 million in 2012 -- 13 million in 2013 & 13 million in 2014 which can be guaranteed if he meets some performance clause.

is he worth that?

is bronson worth his current deal?

Red Raindog
08-01-2011, 11:56 AM
is bronson worth his current deal?

not at his present level of accomplishment --- I don't think that has anything to do with Wandy though ---

:confused:

brm7675
08-01-2011, 12:07 PM
Hunter Pence? Get real.

This team needs a true 4-hole hitter. He ain't it.

That would have been a bad trade.

Pence hit 1 HR in all of June. And 2 HR's in all of July. Wow! I bet that would have opposing pitchers scared of pitching around Votto!

Put Pence in the 3 hole and move Votto to the 4th slot? Or hit Pence in leadoff...