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CrosleyField
07-31-2011, 08:31 PM
I was looking at the 40 man roster this afternoon and Sappelt is not on it. Does he get a call up in September? Who does he knock off the 40 man roster?

FireDusty
07-31-2011, 08:36 PM
I was looking at the 40 man roster this afternoon and Sappelt is not on it. Does he get a call up in September? Who does he knock off the 40 man roster?
Reds fans are going to love this guy.

LeDoux
07-31-2011, 08:36 PM
Mesoraco isn't on the 40-man either. If the Reds are still in it come Sept, I think there is a strong possibility neither are called up. If there are no major injuries that is.

jnewm777
07-31-2011, 09:04 PM
Question: To take a guy off the 40-man do they have to send him through waivers? I believe they do, but am not sure. If that is the case, the only options seem to be 60-day DL or waive somebody you really don't want to keep. Despite Dusty's unflinching love, the only guy that comes to mind that they wouldn't mind losing and that they wouldn't get much out of in terms of compensatory picks is Fred Lewis.

Girevik
07-31-2011, 09:08 PM
Question: To take a guy off the 40-man do they have to send him through waivers? I believe they do, but am not sure. If that is the case, the only options seem to be 60-day DL or waive somebody you really don't want to keep. Despite Dusty's unflinching love, the only guy that comes to mind that they wouldn't mind losing and that they wouldn't get much out of in terms of compensatory picks is Fred Lewis.

Yes, that you do have put put them on waivers. That's why you don't seen players being moved back and forth all the time.

I wouldn't be heartbroken if they waived Renteria, went with Cozart and Janish at SS, and added either Mez or Sappelt for September.

Was the guy they picked up for Gomes on the 40-man? If not, that would have opened a spot.

wlf WV
07-31-2011, 09:42 PM
I don't think we filled Gomes spot.

Tuff Nut
07-31-2011, 09:55 PM
I don't think we filled Gomes spot.
I've been under the impression that Alonso, whom is on the 40-man, replaced Gomes.

R_Webb18
07-31-2011, 09:57 PM
I've been under the impression that Alonso, whom is on the 40-man, replaced Gomes.

im pretty sure hes always been there

Tuff Nut
07-31-2011, 10:00 PM
im pretty sure hes always been there
You are correct. Not sure how players are added.

sdwagers
07-31-2011, 10:07 PM
Typically players are released to clear a 40 man roster spot. I believe Alonso was on the 40 man already, given he played in the Majors last year. The 60 day DL can clear spots for players on the 40 man as well.

LeDoux
07-31-2011, 10:08 PM
Keep in mind that once a player is added to the 40 man, it starts the clock on the big/bigger payday. There is no good reason to add a player you have no plan for playing unless it is to protect them in the rule V draft.

That being said, I really would like to see if Sappelt can hack the leadoff role in the majors.

Red Raindog
07-31-2011, 10:16 PM
ESPN has the Reds with 39 on the roster




Jose Arredondo
Bronson Arroyo
Homer Bailey
Bill Bray
Aroldis Chapman
Francisco Cordero
Johnny Cueto
Mike Leake
Sam LeCure
Nick Masset
Logan Ondrusek
Dontrelle Willis

Ryan Hanigan
Ramon Hernandez

Yonder Alonso
Miguel Cairo
Todd Frazier
Paul Janish
Brandon Phillips
Edgar Renteria
Joey Votto
Jay Bruce

Chris Heisey
Fred Lewis
Drew Stubbs

Disabled List
Zack Cozart DL
Scott Rolen DL

Minors
Carlos Fisher
Juan Francisco
Yasmani Grandal
Jeremy Hermida
Jeremy Horst
Kris Negron
Jordan Smith
Daryl Thompson
Chris Valaika
Philippe Valiquette
Edinson Volquez
Travis Wood

The DARK
07-31-2011, 10:19 PM
Don't forget that Burton will be off the 60-day DL soon and will need a spot. That's probably one of our reasons for the Gomes trade.

Vottomatic
07-31-2011, 10:21 PM
Sappelt just seems to get on base alot. I've wondered all season why they don't give him a shot at leadoff. I guess Dusty thinks he'd just clog the bases. :D

LeDoux
07-31-2011, 10:23 PM
Don't forget that Burton will be off the 60-day DL soon and will need a spot. That's probably one of our reasons for the Gomes trade.

Maloney has been getting starts in Louisville as well.

sdwagers
07-31-2011, 10:25 PM
I d bet Lewis or Fisher are gone for Sappelt in Sept. Maybe Renteria.

CrosleyField
07-31-2011, 10:38 PM
I wonder why Grandal is on the 40 man and Mes is not?

sdwagers
07-31-2011, 10:54 PM
I wonder why Grandal is on the 40 man and Mes is not?

Grandel was signed to a Major League Deal = 40 man roster spot (and the expectation that he gets to the Majors a little faster)


Jim Bowden held up the 40 man roster a few years ago with Dane Sandhia and David Espinoza to Major League Deals.

Red Raindog
07-31-2011, 10:58 PM
Don't forget that Burton will be off the 60-day DL soon and will need a spot. That's probably one of our reasons for the Gomes trade.

forgot about him -- good catch

R_Webb18
07-31-2011, 11:16 PM
Sappelt just seems to get on base alot. I've wondered all season why they don't give him a shot at leadoff. I guess Dusty thinks he'd just clog the bases. :D

does he lead off for bats?

sdwagers
07-31-2011, 11:19 PM
does he lead off for bats?

I 've seen quite a few box scores with him leading off.

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_sch&cid=416&sid=t416&stn=true

Jefferson24
07-31-2011, 11:25 PM
You are correct. Not sure how players are added.

Alonso signed a major league deal which means he was added to the 40 man roster at that time.

Vottomatic
08-01-2011, 05:29 PM
does he lead off for bats?

July 31
Sappelt 4-5 batting leadoff increasing his batting average to .323.

July 30
Sappelt 2-3 batting leadoff also with a walk, average to .314.
Travis Wood pitched 5 innings and walked 8???? Unreal.

July 29
Sappelt 3-5 batting leadoff.
Maloney pitched 4 innings gives up 2 earned runs.

July 28
Sappelt 2-3 leading off.

July 27
Sappelt 1-5 leading off with a double.
Bats get shutout 2-0, limited to 4 hits total. Volquez goes 6 IP, 5 hits, 0 runs.

July 26
Sappelt 3-5 leading off with a double.

July 25
Sappelt 1-4 leading off with a walk and a stolen base.

(sarcasm ahead)....yeah this guy would just clog up the bases for Votto. :laugh: