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brm7675
08-04-2011, 12:11 PM
How would you label the Reds 2011 season?

bounty37h
08-04-2011, 12:28 PM
Need an "all of above", cant single it down to one out of that list, all of them have hit us in many ways over the season.

The DARK
08-04-2011, 12:50 PM
Close to the best run differential in the division, yet 7.5 games out behind three other teams? Plus, everyone on the team with the exception of Cueto is having an average year at best.

Leadership or no leadership, that's the very definition of underachieving.

40YrRedsFan
08-04-2011, 01:06 PM
Need an "all of above", cant single it down to one out of that list, all of them have hit us in many ways over the season.

Ditto

redssince75
08-04-2011, 02:19 PM
Ditto

Yeah, we're all of the above and more.

Next time you do a poll try to make mutually exclusive categories.

Vottomatic
08-04-2011, 05:26 PM
I think brm is going for the most started threads record.

KYRedLeg
08-04-2011, 09:49 PM
By the ASB, he had set a pace nobody could hope to beat.

Anybody attempting to challenge him now will be like Votto trying to take Stubb's strike-out crown.

Kingspoint
08-04-2011, 11:45 PM
A ship sunk by it's commitment to very bad Veterans.

redsfan1995
08-05-2011, 01:50 AM
I went with underachievers but also it could be lack of leadership. But you need to remember last year the Reds were very lucky. Gomes, Arroyo, and Rolen had good years. Now this year look at them Rolen is having Shoulder problems and its affecting his hitting. Arroyo went from being one of the most reliable last year to now this year he's leading MLB in HR'S given up. And Gomes last year best year of his career to this year being traded and not being able to hit RHP. The team as a whole last year was hitting great with RISP to this year with only two guys Votto and Phillips hitting above .300 with RISP. Also The Reds came back in a lot of games and they didn't quit ever.

Vottomatic
08-05-2011, 08:33 AM
This team overachieved last season and came back to earth this season.

Management believed last year's team was the real deal and sat on their butts in the offseason, not upgrading obvious weaknesses.

Because of the overachievement last season, management felt forced to reward an overrated manager, who continues to make poor strategical decisions, definitely costing this team 5 to 8 wins a season.

That is it in a nutshell.

tobttr
08-05-2011, 08:46 PM
This team overachieved last season and came back to earth this season.

Management believed last year's team was the real deal and sat on their butts in the offseason, not upgrading obvious weaknesses.

Because of the overachievement last season, management felt forced to reward an overrated manager, who continues to make poor strategical decisions, definitely costing this team 5 to 8 wins a season.

That is it in a nutshell.

Conceptually, I couldn't agree more. The Reds used up two years worth of luck last year, so they have none left for 2011. Only difference is that I'm not quite as down on Mr. Baker.