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Phhhl
08-06-2011, 02:03 AM
... if Heisey has a legitimate strained oblique, he is going to be out for a month at least, if not longer. A platoon of Alonso and Lewis, both left handed hitters, makes no sense at all.

I have seen no indication this is going to be "the move", but I want to stand up and be counted for it right now. Sappelt is hitting .317 or thereabouts at the time of this post, with a very high .obp. Sure, his "counting stats" are not all that great, but all the guy has ever done has hit at every level.

I would like to see Sappelt hitting leadoff and starting at least 70% of the time in the remaining ballgames, playing defensively between left and center fields. I would also like to see Yonder get the majority of the time Sappelt leaves him in left, while spelling Joey occasionally. Lewis should be relegated to pinch hitting duty ONLY, and Stubbs should be in the lower third of the batting order the remainder of the season.

dougdirt
08-06-2011, 02:17 AM
Sappelt isn't on the 40 man roster. While there are some guys there that could easily be removed (Negron and Valaika), I am not sure the Reds are going to make a move like that.

Danny Serafini
08-06-2011, 02:20 AM
There are only 38 players on the 40 man right now, so that shouldn't be an issue.

dougdirt
08-06-2011, 02:27 AM
There are only 38 players on the 40 man right now, so that shouldn't be an issue.

If that is true, then that is what I get for assuming that Fay was correct. He posted this afternoon that the Reds were at 40 on the 40 man.

camisadelgolf
08-06-2011, 02:33 AM
There are only 38 players on the 40 man right now, so that shouldn't be an issue.
Fyi Matt Maloney and Jared Burton are soon rejoining the 40-man roster.

Danny Serafini
08-06-2011, 02:47 AM
Burton's only had a couple of games with the AZL Reds, I'd imagine he's not coming back anytime soon. A healthy Sappelt would take priority over Burton, who's not going to be major league ready for quite a while yet.

schroomytunes
08-06-2011, 02:49 AM
Who care's 2011 is done...walt's still sitting on his hands!

Big Klu
08-06-2011, 03:06 AM
... if Heisey has a legitimate strained oblique, he is going to be out for a month at least, if not longer. A platoon of Alonso and Lewis, both left handed hitters, makes no sense at all.

I have seen no indication this is going to be "the move", but I want to stand up and be counted for it right now. Sappelt is hitting .317 or thereabouts at the time of this post, with a very high .obp. Sure, his "counting stats" are not all that great, but all the guy has ever done has hit at every level.

I would like to see Sappelt hitting leadoff and starting at least 70% of the time in the remaining ballgames, playing defensively between left and center fields. I would also like to see Yonder get the majority of the time Sappelt leaves him in left, while spelling Joey occasionally. Lewis should be relegated to pinch hitting duty ONLY, and Stubbs should be in the lower third of the batting order the remainder of the season.


I hadn't heard about this! Anybody have more information? (Though this does make sense of the curious move of using Heisey to PR for Alonso, but then not using him as a defensive replacement in LF.)

My guess is that if it is bad enough to put Heisey on the DL, then they might simply activate Cozart from the DL on Monday.


Edit: Never mind. I saw in the Cozart Injury Update thread that Zack might not be ready by Monday. I also got an explanation on the Heisey injury.

RedLegSuperStar
08-06-2011, 07:53 AM
Rolen could be transferred to 60 day DL aswell. I got to believe Mesoraco will be placed on the roster by Sept. 1st

buckeyenut
08-06-2011, 08:38 AM
To your point, if Heisey is out, then yes, I think we need to get Sappelt up here now.

Mario-Rijo
08-06-2011, 08:56 AM
Should of broke camp with the club really but yeah definitely IMO. Will probably be Juan Francisco though because that is typical.

mbgrayson
08-06-2011, 09:03 AM
Why just consider Sappelt?

Jeremy Hermida: .309/.392/.500 for an OPS of .892, with 13 HRs. (Age 27)
Dave Sappelt: .313 /.377/.458 for an OPS of .834, with 7 HRs. (Age 24)
Devin Mesoraco: .301/.373.491 for an OPS of .863, with 11 HRs. (Age 23)
Juan Francisco: .302 /.332/.537 for an OPS of .868, with 11 HRs. (Age 24)

It's nice to see that even after calling up Cozart, Alonso, and Frazier, we still have some good hitters at AAA Louisville.

Kc61
08-06-2011, 09:22 AM
Why just consider Sappelt?

Jeremy Hermida: .309/.392/.500 for an OPS of .892, with 13 HRs. (Age 27)
Dave Sappelt: .313 /.377/.458 for an OPS of .834, with 7 HRs. (Age 24)
Devin Mesoraco: .301/.373.491 for an OPS of .863, with 11 HRs. (Age 23)
Juan Francisco: .302 /.332/.537 for an OPS of .868, with 11 HRs. (Age 24)

It's nice to see that even after calling up Cozart, Alonso, and Frazier, we still have some good hitters at AAA Louisville.

The order of delivery is less important, except to fuel Redszone threads. Main point is that Reds need to replace Hernandez and Lewis on the roster along with injured Heisey and add
kids. That's three spots that should be made available pronto.

Francisco mashes RHP which Reds need and should platoon at third. Mes should be getting major league reps. And IMO Sappelt should be getting playing time all over the outfield, including CF where Stubbs could use some time off.

Cairo is signed for next year and Renteria will stay because of Cozart injury. So they likely will stay for the duration.

So IMO three guys can come up in August, then more when rosters expand in September.

GAC
08-06-2011, 10:15 AM
They're not going to call up a 3rd catcher (Mesoraco) at this stage. Maybe when the roster expands in Sept.

Yonder's splits vs L/R are both pretty good. Play him. Isn't that why he's here? Let Lewis be his back-up.

RedLegSuperStar
08-06-2011, 10:20 AM
They're not going to call up a 3rd catcher (Mesoraco) at this stage. Maybe when the roster expands in Sept.

Who said they were?

Redsfan320
08-06-2011, 10:33 AM
Heisey pinch-ran for Alonso yesterday. He didn't stay in to play LF, but I would think if his oblique was very bad he wouldn't be pinch-running.

320

Phhhl
08-06-2011, 12:09 PM
It would almost have to be Sappelt because there is noone to back up Stubbs in center if Heisey gets disabled.

Big Klu
08-06-2011, 12:18 PM
It would almost have to be Sappelt because there is noone to back up Stubbs in center if Heisey gets disabled.

Bruce could play CF if necessary, but you are right in that Sappelt is the most likely candidate from Louisville.

757690
08-06-2011, 04:03 PM
johnfayman Sapelt's brother (or someone say he's his brother) Tweeted that Sappelt has been called up. #reds
about 1 hour ago

Ron Madden
08-06-2011, 05:10 PM
JFay is saying Heisey to the DL Sappelt to the Reds before Sundays game vs the Cubs.

Good, bad day for Alonso; Sappelt on the way. http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2011/08/06/good-bad-day-for-alonso-sappelt-on-the-way/


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Ron Madden
08-06-2011, 05:41 PM
Anyone have any idea on how the Reds open a roster spot for Sappelt?

Could it be a trade of Hernandez?

edabbs44
08-06-2011, 05:53 PM
Anyone have any idea on how the Reds open a roster spot for Sappelt?

Could it be a trade of Hernandez?

Wouldn't Heisey to the DL do it?

Big Klu
08-06-2011, 05:53 PM
Anyone have any idea on how the Reds open a roster spot for Sappelt?

Could it be a trade of Hernandez?

Heisey to the DL.

Ron Madden
08-06-2011, 05:55 PM
I didn't think Sappelt was on the 40 man roster.

SirFelixCat
08-06-2011, 05:56 PM
I didn't think Sappelt was on the 40 man roster.

He wasn't.

UKFlounder
08-06-2011, 05:56 PM
I think the Reds only have 39 on their 40 man right now. I read that somewhere, so it may be wrong



I didn't think Sappelt was on the 40 man roster.

Ron Madden
08-06-2011, 06:13 PM
There are 40 players on the reds 40 man roster and Sappelt is not on it according to reds.com.

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/team/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=cin

Never mind just saw that Burton and Frazier were listed while on the 60 day DL.

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alloverjr
08-06-2011, 06:14 PM
I think the Reds only have 39 on their 40 man right now. I read that somewhere, so it may be wrong

Reds website has them at 38 with both Burton and Francisco on the 60 day. Both have been out on rehab so they would be presumably need to be added back soon. Rolen to the 60 day would probably be the easiest move. They don't need him back for this year. There also seems to be a couple of questionable names on the 40 man that could probably be dropped off if necessary.

mth123
08-06-2011, 06:26 PM
I hope he plays CF with Yonder in left. Stubbs can sit for a while and come in for defense in late innings. If he sits enough he won't break the K record. I know breaking the record is sonewhat arbitrary, but it may cause a stigma in trying to deal him.

reds44
08-06-2011, 07:41 PM
I hope he plays CF with Yonder in left. Stubbs can sit for a while and come in for defense in late innings. If he sits enough he won't break the K record. I know breaking the record is sonewhat arbitrary, but it may cause a stigma in trying to deal him.
Agreed. Lets find out of Dave is a legit option in CF.

cincrazy
08-06-2011, 08:20 PM
Agreed. Lets find out of Dave is a legit option in CF.

I totally agree, but it's not going to happen. I've lost all faith in this organization when it comes to using logic.

Mario-Rijo
08-06-2011, 08:27 PM
People are gonna be out with the pitchforks when they see what this kid does for this offense. Knowing he could have, should have been up here all along or at the very least since like June or so. Likely would have made a world of difference to have one more guy lacing LD's all over the place and just generally getting on base up at the top of the lineup. That is if he gets to play before the end of the freaking month. Dusty and his pecking order.

mth123
08-06-2011, 08:30 PM
People are gonna be out with the pitchforks when they see what this kid does for this offense. Knowing he could have, should have been up here all along or at the very least since like June or so. Likely would have made a world of difference to have one more guy lacing LD's all over the place and just generally getting on base up at the top of the lineup. That is if he gets to play before the end of the freaking month. Dusty and his pecking order.

Wasn't Sappelt hurt until late July? I blame the Reds for a lot of failings in the make-up of the roster, but they really couldn't get Sappelt up a whole lot sooner.

camisadelgolf
08-06-2011, 09:10 PM
It's official. http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110806&content_id=22832634&notebook_id=22832676&vkey=notebook_cin&c_id=cin

Big Klu
08-06-2011, 09:21 PM
nm

Mario-Rijo
08-06-2011, 09:21 PM
Wasn't Sappelt hurt until late July? I blame the Reds for a lot of failings in the make-up of the roster, but they really couldn't get Sappelt up a whole lot sooner.

Sappelt wasn't hurt until late June or July IIRC. Sappelt should have been up well before he was hurt IMO.

IslandRed
08-06-2011, 09:25 PM
Sappelt wasn't hurt until late June or July IIRC. Sappelt should have been up well before he was hurt IMO.

Actually, he was out all of May and part of June. (Coincidentally enough, it was an oblique injury). And then he didn't hit all that well for awhile after he returned. So, as far as his chance of post-callup success is concerned, the timing isn't too bad.

Mario-Rijo
08-06-2011, 09:31 PM
Actually, he was out all of May and part of June. (Coincidentally enough, it was an oblique injury). And then he didn't hit all that well for awhile after he returned. So, as far as his chance of post-callup success is concerned, the timing isn't too bad.

Aha, so I didn't remember correctly. Fair enough.

GAC
08-07-2011, 07:10 AM
Who said they were?


Why just consider Sappelt?

Jeremy Hermida: .309/.392/.500 for an OPS of .892, with 13 HRs. (Age 27)
Dave Sappelt: .313 /.377/.458 for an OPS of .834, with 7 HRs. (Age 24)
Devin Mesoraco: .301/.373.491 for an OPS of .863, with 11 HRs. (Age 23)
Juan Francisco: .302 /.332/.537 for an OPS of .868, with 11 HRs. (Age 24)