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Dusty is Done
08-14-2011, 09:00 PM
He may be a Cardinal,

but after watching 60 minutes, I have an all new outlook on him

bshall2105
08-14-2011, 09:02 PM
Yeah I saw that too, he is definitely not one of the typical Cardinals.

Eric the Red
08-14-2011, 09:06 PM
I watched it as well, he's a very impressive individual. The 60 Minutes piece was very well done, describing how he set up a foundation for kids with down syndrome and raised a daughter (though not his biological child) who has it, how he does a lot of charity work for the area he grew up in the Dominican Republic and how he went to a Houston hospital last year and gave a kid there his 400th HR bat.

Vottomatic
08-14-2011, 09:15 PM
Maybe he'll be smart and leave that pathetic organization for a one with classy players and a classy manager.

Skreep
08-14-2011, 11:55 PM
he may do some charity work, but he has done a lot of shady things. i used to think he was one of the nicest guys, but now, hes just a typical cardinal.

Jr's Boy
08-15-2011, 12:33 AM
he may do some charity work, but he has done a lot of shady things. i used to think he was one of the nicest guys, but now, hes just a typical cardinal.

Can you elaborate on those ''shady things''?I think he's a class act.

Skreep
08-15-2011, 12:45 AM
Can you elaborate on those ''shady things''?I think he's a class act.

i used to think he was the classiest in baseball. ill just list some things that come to mind.

Complaining about shirts being untucked while staring down homeruns, walking out of the batters box, staring down opposing teams while running the bases, all while trying to keep it classy "for the kids"
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/217674-the-prince-of-power-fielder-untucksem-in-st-louis

Complaining to the press about the MVP winner not being on a playoff team, the year before he won it on a 4th place team
http://www.majorwager.com/forums/mess-hall/81306-snubbed-pujols-says-mvp-should-playoff-team.html

and a slight against tom glavine
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/94526/pujols_act_growing_old.html

theres more if you look for them

Razzle
08-15-2011, 02:06 AM
i used to think he was the classiest in baseball. ill just list some things that come to mind.

Complaining about shirts being untucked while staring down homeruns, walking out of the batters box, staring down opposing teams while running the bases, all while trying to keep it classy "for the kids"
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/217674-the-prince-of-power-fielder-untucksem-in-st-louis

I don't particularly care either way about the Brewers, but this is a pretty tame thing to ridicule Pujols over. Sure I think he's wrong, but he sees it as showing up his team. Not debating whether his hypocrisy when watching his home runs at all, but this doesn't make me think much less of him at all.


Complaining to the press about the MVP winner not being on a playoff team, the year before he won it on a 4th place team
http://www.majorwager.com/forums/mess-hall/81306-snubbed-pujols-says-mvp-should-playoff-team.html

The reasoning is wrong, but insane that Howard won the MVP over him in 2006. He was simply better at every facet of the game outside of hitting home runs and having teammates on the bases in front of him. It was translated from spanish so who knows what the context of the exchange was between Pujols and the reporter.


and a slight against tom glavine
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/94526/pujols_act_growing_old.html

Absolutely something I wish he hadn't done, but in the heat of competition I've said similar things. I just didn't have a microphone shoved in my face immediately after a tough loss to make myself look more foolish. Obviously he's a professional and should know better.


theres more if you look for them
If you want to make anyone out to look like a bad guy, you could. There are a lot of things about Pujols that I may not care for as much, but there is nothing that comes close to putting a dent in his character off the field. He does as much good off of the field as any player I can remember.

lidspinner
08-15-2011, 07:12 AM
people could search and find issues regarding Joey Votto if they searched hard enough, I am sure....but that dont make Joey a bad person....

Albert is one of the few good guys in Baseball and I will forever be a fan of his just for his work with handicapped kids....not to mention all his charity work with poor children, children who have money but need a role model, just children in general.....Albert has went far and beyond what he should as an millionaire athlete to help the down syndrome kids....

anyone who has a down syndrome kid in their family like me, know that they are special kids who are as smart as any other kid out there, they just cant express it..

Albert has done a ton of things that I dont approve of, mainly signing his extension with the Cardinals but thats his choice and I will forever hate him for it, outside of that issue and a few others mentioned above, I will choose to bad mouth him when he is on the diamond playing against the Reds, but any other time of the day I will root for Albert at all costs....

Skreep
08-15-2011, 08:01 AM
i'm not here to make your decisions for you. i just have a hatred for hypocrites. thats why i dont respect a guy who calls people out one day for "showing somebody up", then the next day hits a homerun, walks out of the box, flips his bat, stares down the pitcher as he takes his batting gloves off, then talks to the opposing dugout as he rounds the bases. I guess growing up with a hypocrite in the house made me a little sore on that subject.

Vottomatic
08-15-2011, 03:44 PM
i'm not here to make your decisions for you. i just have a hatred for hypocrites. thats why i dont respect a guy who calls people out one day for "showing somebody up", then the next day hits a homerun, walks out of the box, flips his bat, stares down the pitcher as he takes his batting gloves off, then talks to the opposing dugout as he rounds the bases. I guess growing up with a hypocrite in the house made me a little sore on that subject.

You have to realize that AP has to hang around a locker room and dugout for 162 games with the likes of Tony LaRussa, Dave Duncan, Chris Carpenter, Yadier Molina, and a whole host of other St. Louis losers. Then factor in their whiny fanbase and media, and then you realize how much negative influence he has going for him.

texasdave
08-15-2011, 03:54 PM
He is a Cardinal ballplayer and Cardinal ballplayers are to be loathed. End of story.

Skreep
08-15-2011, 04:28 PM
You have to realize that AP has to hang around a locker room and dugout for 162 games with the likes of Tony LaRussa, Dave Duncan, Chris Carpenter, Yadier Molina, and a whole host of other St. Louis losers. Then factor in their whiny fanbase and media, and then you realize how much negative influence he has going for him.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

izzy's dad
08-15-2011, 04:54 PM
Whatever happened to hating the rival teams players no matter what? I hate every Cub, and Cardinal equally and without question. Pujols could save a bus full of orphans from falling off of a cliff and into a volcano, but I would still detest his very existence. I understand he is a great player, but I have no respect for a guy that watches every home run like it is the first one he ever hit. Albert Pujols reminds me of a tv preacher. He says all the right things, but his behavior makes you question his motives. And I am sure that if you start to dissect the lives of every ball player you will find dirt, Votto, Bruce, Phillips included. But this guy seems so fake to me I find it impossible to respect him.

DocRed
08-15-2011, 09:34 PM
I saw it too...a better man than me. That being said I still hope he gets his money AND leaves StLoser.

10xWSChamps
08-16-2011, 01:27 AM
Albert has (mostly) paid for and set up an early childhood school for kids with mental handicaps in St Louis. It looks like a fairly large cutting edge facility and they are also providing transportation to get kids to and from the school.

They are going to open another across the river in Illinois in a couple of years.

Every year he hires doctors and dentists and flies them down to the Dominican and takes them around to villages for free health care.

I'm sure he's spent tens of millions on charity throughout the years. He makes a ton of money, but it's still a significant portion of his income.

Vottomatic
08-16-2011, 08:25 AM
He may be a Cardinal,

but after watching 60 minutes, I have an all new outlook on him

I'll have new respect for Albert if and when he leaves St. Louis. If he has any respect for himself, he will. :beerme:

texasdave
08-16-2011, 09:43 AM
Albert has (mostly) paid for and set up an early childhood school for kids with mental handicaps in St Louis. It looks like a fairly large cutting edge facility and they are also providing transportation to get kids to and from the school.

They are going to open another across the river in Illinois in a couple of years.

Every year he hires doctors and dentists and flies them down to the Dominican and takes them around to villages for free health care.

I'm sure he's spent tens of millions on charity throughout the years. He makes a ton of money, but it's still a significant portion of his income.

Does he pass out free steroids to the Dominican youngsters so they can grow up to be just like him? :)

izzy's dad
08-16-2011, 09:45 AM
Not steroids... HGH maybe.

DocRed
08-16-2011, 10:05 AM
Does he pass out free steroids to the Dominican youngsters so they can grow up to be just like him? :)

Ouch harsh! LOL. I always thought he was on the juice too but after watching that piece it's hard to imagine someone who doesn't even smoke or drink would inject himself with the muscle juice...you never know though I suppose. :p