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schroomytunes
08-20-2011, 04:18 AM
The Astros have placed Wandy on waivers, should the Reds make a move and try to acquire this guy? IMHO I feel that this is the kind of move to make to bolster the rotation for 2012. Our farm system is full of young talent and we need help at the big league level now! This move would be a huge step forward in shoring up a weak spot before next season:

1)Cueto
2)W.Rodriquez
3)Leake
4)Bailey
5)Arroyo

If I'm Walt I would be tearing up the phone trying to get a deal done, I'd start by offering:

reds trade-Edinson Volquez, Yasmani Grandal, Travis Wood, and Dave Sappalt.

thoughts?

757690
08-20-2011, 05:15 AM
Wandy makes around $26M between now and the end of 2012. Because of that, I believe the Astros would be doing cartwheels if anyone claimed him. I would imagine a few C prospects would be all it takes to get him, if you agreed to take his contract in full.

Brutus
08-20-2011, 06:15 AM
Probably 80% of Major League players get placed on waivers in August, so this by itself isn't really news. Teams are allowed to place up to 7 players on waivers at once, and often do so to disguise who may or may not be on the market.

Obviously it makes sense that the Astros would be open for trading Wandy, so his presence on waivers could mean they're willing to move him. In that scenario, I think he's someone the Reds have had their eyes on, but will probably cost more than they'd like to pay. I like Wandy, but I don't think he's worth paying too much for. Not a bonafide ace, so unless the Astros are willing to unload him for less than anticipated, I'd probably pass.

lollipopcurve
08-20-2011, 07:19 AM
Always a good idea to get quality pitching. Houston's dumping salary, so the player cost wouldn't be prohibitive. Doubt the Reds open the purse strings, though.

hebroncougar
08-20-2011, 07:37 AM
I'll be shocked if the Yankees don't grab him. It would be nice for the Reds to, but the Arroyo deal probably makes this impossible. Oh to have the hindsight........

mth123
08-20-2011, 08:04 AM
Wandy's good and has put up his numbers in a similar park in the same division, so a huge change from changing parks or leagues isn't something to worry about. While I'd prefer an ACE, Wandy is certainly the type of solid 200 inning guy to provide some dependability that the rotation needs. The problem is that he will make $10 Million in 2012 and $13 Million in 2013. I don't think the Reds can swing it and certainly don't need to provide both Grandal and Sappelt in a deal for him. I'd say Volquez and some lesser lights should get him. If the Astros want a top prospect or two they'll need to kick in some dollars towards the contract.

The Reds need to save the primo prospects for deals involving clear upgrades who are also affordable. I think Wandy is a clear upgrade over the Reds worst starter, but he's pricey and the Reds just can't use the available trade capital and payroll room without a bigger upgrade that addesses other problem areas.

mth123
08-20-2011, 08:06 AM
NM

PuffyPig
08-20-2011, 10:02 AM
If I'm Walt I would be tearing up the phone trying to get a deal done, I'd start by offering:

reds trade-Edinson Volquez, Yasmani Grandal, Travis Wood, and Dave Sappalt.

thoughts?

Huge overpayment.

_Sir_Charles_
08-20-2011, 10:04 AM
If I'm Walt I would be tearing up the phone trying to get a deal done, I'd start by offering:

reds trade-Edinson Volquez, Yasmani Grandal, Travis Wood, and Dave Sappalt.

thoughts?

2 thoughts.

1. Wandy's been trending down lately. I'm not sure if it's just frustration from being on such a bad team or if he's legitimately getting worse. Either way, it's a bit of a red flag.

2. Regardless of the reason for the drop in numbers...that's WAY too much for Wandy. Toss in the fact that the Astros are looking to shed dollars, it should take a LOT less than that to snag him.

RedsManRick
08-20-2011, 10:13 AM
I don't get why this guy doesn't get more attention. This is his 5th straight year of being a very solid starter. He's the pitcher that apparently Jocketty thought Arroyo is and $13M/yr is a good deal for him.

I don't see how we fit him in our payroll unless we cut BP loose and given his FB tendencies, he's probably not a great fit here, but I'd be shocked if he gets through waivers. New York and Detroit seem like particularly good fits.

757690
08-20-2011, 10:27 AM
I don't get why this guy doesn't get more attention. This is his 5th straight year of being a very solid starter. He's the pitcher that apparently Jocketty thought Arroyo is and $13M/yr is a good deal for him.

I don't see how we fit him in our payroll unless we cut BP loose and given his FB tendencies, he's probably not a great fit here, but I'd be shocked if he gets through waivers. New York and Detroit seem like particularly good fits.

If Wandy's contract was structured the way Arroyo's is, with half of it deferred, the Astros wouldnt need to trade him, and teams would be fighting over each other to acquire him.

PuffyPig
08-20-2011, 01:12 PM
If Wandy's contract was structured the way Arroyo's is, with half of it deferred, the Astros wouldnt need to trade him, and teams would be fighting over each other to acquire him.

Except if traded, then the deferrals come due immediately.

lollipopcurve
08-20-2011, 01:27 PM
Astros also waived Barmes, an Indiana guy. With the current state of the SS position, I wouldn't mind the Reds taking a run at him. He's had an OK year for Houston.

savafan
08-20-2011, 03:47 PM
Just out of curiosity, do minor leaguers need to pass through waivers after the trading deadline to be dealt, or is it just the guys on the 25 man roster? (or the 40 man roster?)

mdccclxix
08-20-2011, 04:01 PM
The Reds have been trying to feast on the Astros' restructuring for 2 years, inquiring on Oswalt, Wandy, Bourn and others. The price is always higher for the Reds b/c it's the same division. That's the word on the internet anyway.

blumj
08-21-2011, 08:10 AM
Just out of curiosity, do minor leaguers need to pass through waivers after the trading deadline to be dealt, or is it just the guys on the 25 man roster? (or the 40 man roster?)

It's the 40 man roster, but minor leaguers on the 40 can be PTBNLs until after the season.

TRF
08-22-2011, 09:45 AM
Wandy is a very anonymous version of Javier Vasquez. That isn't a bad thing, but that is who he is.

I'd claim him, and I'd offer up Juan Francisco as my only offer. maybe someone from High A, and maybe I throw in Maloney.

blumj
08-23-2011, 04:05 PM
Rockies awarded claim on Wandy. Talks ongoing. Will be outcome by 1 p.m. ET Thursday.


https://twitter.com/#!/Ken_Rosenthal/status/106089050821246976

_Sir_Charles_
08-24-2011, 10:21 AM
Interesting thing about this is that Wandy is scheduled to pitch AGAINST the Rockies today.