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mu4103
09-01-2011, 10:14 PM
If you prorate Heisey's stats (218 ABs) into the number of ABs Jay Bruce has (491 - 4th most starts for a Reds everyday player), they are as follows: .252 AVG., 29 HR, 83 Runs, 92 RBI, 11 SB, .778 OPS .

That is good enough to lead the team in HR, RBI and 3rd in runs, and 2nd in SB. Say what you want, but I think fans need to think twice before saying the Reds need a LFer.

Red Raindog
09-01-2011, 10:42 PM
Overall AB HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
Total 218 13 41 15 60 5 1 .252 .310 .468 .778
vs. Left 40 1 8 2 15 0 0 .225 .279 .375 .654
vs. Right 177 11 30 13 45 5 1 .254 .313 .469 .782

When I looked up his stats I expected to see he had an unusual number of AB's against lefties & he feasted on them --- some much for that theory

nux fan
09-01-2011, 11:56 PM
thats why our manager plated gomes because gomes hit forty points worse, but baker needed to get johnny goin

drowg14
09-02-2011, 02:43 AM
Can you prorate his strikeouts too?

nux fan
09-02-2011, 09:22 AM
can you prorate how many games gomes lost for the reds

Old NDN
09-02-2011, 10:22 AM
Can you prorate his strikeouts too?

My thoughts, also. I stated in a previous thread that an OF of Stubbs, Heisey, and Bruce would/could set a MLB record for K's in a season. I see no better option at this point, however, unless you continue to give Sappelt a shot. He still hasn't convinced me that he's the answer though. I know: "They're young. Give them time." But, when do they quit being young and start improving on their K problem?

texasdave
09-02-2011, 10:22 AM
I know: "They're young. Give them time." But, when do they quit being young and start improving on their K problem?

Likely never.

smixsell
09-02-2011, 02:02 PM
thats why our manager plated gomes because gomes hit forty points worse, but baker needed to get johnny goin

To True. :( :confused:

mu4103
09-02-2011, 02:03 PM
My thoughts, also. I stated in a previous thread that an OF of Stubbs, Heisey, and Bruce would/could set a MLB record for K's in a season. I see no better option at this point, however, unless you continue to give Sappelt a shot. He still hasn't convinced me that he's the answer though. I know: "They're young. Give them time." But, when do they quit being young and start improving on their K problem?

I think some or a lot of the strikeout problems have been Dusty's philosophy of hitting. I think it is something a long the lines of look for 1 pitch and rip it. He doesn't emphasize patience. The good thing is that the Reds score a lot of runs, but it seems like a new hitting coach could play big dividends. It would take a lot to fix Stubbs, but with Heisey you are only looking at 400+ major league ABs. The pitch he hit out yesterday was a pitch that I have seen him strikeout on several times.

Red Raindog
09-02-2011, 05:14 PM
Can you prorate his strikeouts too?

@122 -- could give Stubbs a run

mu4103
09-02-2011, 07:03 PM
Can you prorate his strikeouts too?

In 491 ABs he would have 135 Ks, 3 more than Bruce for 2nd on the team. Votto is 3rd on the team (40th in the league) in K's with 101, Johnny Gomes is 4th on the team with 74 (prorated to 167 if given 491 ABs). Gomes would be 2nd in the league in K's if you prorated his stats. Says something about the Reds hitting philosophy.

Another note, it took Washington less than 1 month to learn what the Reds couldn't in two years. He is a bench player.

Another note, the Reds are 8th in the league in K's. To me I am surprised they are not first. But if you look at the team, Brandon Phillips only has 65 K's despite being 2nd on the team in ABs and the catchers combined for 70, and Rolen only has 36. Other than Hanigan, those are the players that didn't come up in the Reds system. So to me most of the K problem is coaching or better said philosophy. I don't think Heisey, Bruce, or Votto would be King as much with a different hitting coach or philosophy.

nux fan
09-02-2011, 07:07 PM
the reds have no philosophy other than do nothing or the same thing each year, that is why their players dont improve

mu4103
09-02-2011, 07:13 PM
I don't know if this link has been posted before or not, but I thought it was funny.

http://www.allstats.com/dbaker/