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OesterPoster
09-23-2011, 09:45 AM
I think we all agreed back in late June and early July that the Pirates' pitching staff was due for some serious regression...but holy cow, it's been a lot worse than I thought it'd be.

16-40 since July 25th is unreal...and apparently historic.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/columnists/s_758308.html


In the modern history of Major League Baseball that began in 1900, no team has fared worse than these Pirates after holding first place through 100 games. Actually, no team has even come close. The Pirates' 16-40 record down the stretch makes for a .286 winning percentage. Next-worst was the 1977 Chicago Cubs, who went 60-40 to lead their division through 100 games, then went 21-41 for a .339 winning percentage.

reds1869
09-23-2011, 09:56 AM
My father is a lifelong Buccos fan. This season has featured both the happiest he's been since the early 90s and the most despair.

Homer Bailey
09-23-2011, 10:13 AM
I think we all agreed back in late June and early July that the Pirates' pitching staff was due for some serious regression...but holy cow, it's been a lot worse than I thought it'd be.

16-40 since July 25th is unreal...and apparently historic.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/columnists/s_758308.html

No, not everyone agreed:


Fun year for the Pirates. They have everything they need to make a run at the NL Central and easily will finish 5 ahead of the Reds no matter how things shake out. They're better constructed.


I predict 90 wins. No joke. They are the 2011 version of the 2010 Reds and will suffer the same fate. First round loss, and like the Reds, they'll fade away.

But yeah, some people were on it ;)


Pirates are a below average hitting team and a below average pitching team. I can't believe their success has lasted this long. Reds will finish above them in the standings.

Reds/Flyers Fan
09-23-2011, 03:16 PM
Another team that's completely disappeared after getting their fans all excited is the Indians. A lot of it, of course, has been the ridiculously hot play of the Tigers. But I kept telling Indians fans all summer that they wouldn't come close to winning the division and I kept getting shrugged off and dismissed. I can't say that I didn't enjoy their freefall.

Edd Roush
09-23-2011, 03:20 PM
Worse for the Indians is the fact that they overpaid for Ubaldo hoping he would put them over the top. That's a deal that could really haunt them come 2013-2014.

WVRedsFan
09-23-2011, 04:22 PM
No, not everyone agreed:

I was one of those quotes. Embarrassingly wrong. Mea Culpa.






But yeah, some people were on it ;)

:clap:

Homer Bailey
09-23-2011, 11:43 PM
I was one of those quotes. Embarrassingly wrong. Mea Culpa.







:clap:

Going to the WVU game tomorrow?

westofyou
09-23-2011, 11:47 PM
I was one of those quotes. Embarrassingly wrong. Mea Culpa.







:clap:
Being wrong is the biggest part of being a baseball fan.

oneupper
09-23-2011, 11:53 PM
Pirates fans had some fun this year. Probably more than Reds fans.
Maybe that's as good as it gets.

WVRedsFan
09-24-2011, 12:13 AM
Going to the WVU game tomorrow?Yep. Leaving at 10:00 and hope to get home by 3:00 AM. Gameday!

WVRedsFan
09-24-2011, 12:19 AM
BTW, if not for the Buccos, the Reds might have been better this year. Reds have won 3 of 13 against them. Take away that 3-10 poor showing and the Reds would be 73-71. If the Reds had won just 7 of those 13 games, they would be 80-77.

Yep, they crashed and burned, but as we saw tonight, they own us in 2011.

GAC
09-24-2011, 06:26 AM
Reds have won 3 of 13 against them.

Yep, they crashed and burned, but as we saw tonight, they own us in 2011.

Own us BIG TIME!

The Pirates may have collapsed (22 games back); but as far as I'm concerned, so did the Reds (16 games back). The Pirates just fell a little farther then us that's all. ;)

Unassisted
09-24-2011, 01:59 PM
Own us BIG TIME!

The Pirates may have collapsed (22 games back); but as far as I'm concerned, so did the Reds (16 games back). The Pirates just fell a little farther then us that's all. ;)Agree. They had a bigger taste of success than the Reds did this season, so that must make their collapse all the more painful to fans.

IMO, the Reds collapse began in June when the team had that month-plus stretch of being unable to put together two wins in a row. It wasn't as dramatic as a losing streak, but it included plenty of painful losses. It felt like they were knocked to the mat, sat up and have been repeatedly knocked back down from that seated position ever since.