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BuckeyeRedleg
09-28-2011, 07:31 PM
Looks like OnBaseMachine started this last year in early October.

Just a reminder, as I'm looking forward to participating again.


It's time to start our Redszone top 40 prospects poll again. For those who are new to the board, about three years ago we started doing a community top 40. There will typically be 15-20 prospects on each poll to choose from and you can nominate some guys to be added to the poll. For now, the polls will be open for three days.

Here is last year's top 40.

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80315

Notable Reds prospects who lost their prospect eligibility this season: No. 3 RHP Mike Leake, No. 7 LHP Travis Wood, No. 8 OF Chris Heisey, No. 12 LHP Matt Maloney, No. 24 RHP Jordan Smith, No. 28 RHP Logan Ondrusek.

Let's get this thing started.

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86187&highlight=prospect

mdccclxix
09-29-2011, 02:15 PM
It's a long off season, can we pace the voting some? I remember last year it was a flash and all the good convo was through on the 1-20 guys.

marcshoe
09-29-2011, 02:46 PM
It's a long off season, can we pace the voting some? I remember last year it was a flash and all the good convo was through on the 1-20 guys.

I'll second that. These conversations help me keep up with what's going on in the Reds' system, but last year several votes went by without my even realizing they were happening. It may have just been me being busy, but it just felt rushed.

medford
09-29-2011, 03:16 PM
I think its the nature of the beast. Few people know much outside of a handful of prospects. Therefor we rely on those that do to generate conversation and insight, while most of us throw up a vote and move on. No matter how you pace it, or when you start it, by the time you get 15-20 deep, there's not the conversation and # of people with real insight to generate much interest. On top of that, it generally becomes a repeat conversation of past voting spots as those in the 20-40 range have been championed for spots earlier and much of the conversation is all ready present in previous posts.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy it, but if you extend out the days between votes, you're just dragging it out to drag it out after the top 15-20.

Danny Serafini
09-29-2011, 03:34 PM
I think it paced out pretty good last year. It started not long after the season, and we typically hit #40 right around the start of Spring Training. It fits neatly into the offseason gap so there's something to discuss all year long. My only suggestion would be to go back to cutting it at #40 instead of going to #50 like last year. There was virtually no discussion for those last 10 spots for two reasons: once you get that deep few people really know the players, and Spring Training had started so there was something new for everyone to discuss again. Otherwise it makes for a great offseason filler.

BuckeyeRedleg
09-29-2011, 03:46 PM
I agree that 40 is a perfect number.

crazybob60
09-29-2011, 04:35 PM
This definitely sounds like fun as I haven't participated in this before but am looking forward to it. I was able to catch many more games of the Dragons this past season and have followed the Reds farm system more closely as a result. Should be interesting.

The DARK
09-30-2011, 11:41 AM
Who qualifies as a prospect this year? With all those who got time in the majors, it doesn't seem so cut and dry this time around.

UKFlounder
09-30-2011, 12:34 PM
It goes by eligibility for rookie of the year standards. If they still qualify for that, they're a prospect. (For instance, last year Chapman still qualified as a prospect though most everyone thought he would be in the majors to start the year.)


Who qualifies as a prospect this year? With all those who got time in the majors, it doesn't seem so cut and dry this time around.

dougdirt
09-30-2011, 04:37 PM
Who qualifies as a prospect this year? With all those who got time in the majors, it doesn't seem so cut and dry this time around.

Anyone with less than 50 ip, fewer than 130 at bats or less than 45 days on the MLB 25 man roster.

Danny Serafini
09-30-2011, 06:06 PM
Here's who was in Cincinnati this year but still has rookie eligibility: Frazier, Sappelt, Alonso, Mesoraco, Cozart, Valaika, Horst, Thompson

Here's who exhausted their rookie eligibility this year: Francisco, LeCure, J. Smith

dougdirt
09-30-2011, 06:08 PM
Here's who was in Cincinnati this year but still has rookie eligibility: Frazier, Sappelt, Alonso, Mesoraco, Cozart, Valaika, Horst, Thompson

Here's who exhausted their rookie eligibility this year: Francisco, LeCure, J. Smith

Smith actually wasn't eligible this year, he had more than 45 days last season.

Danny Serafini
09-30-2011, 06:13 PM
Good call, I missed that.

camisadelgolf
09-30-2011, 06:14 PM
Anyone with less than 50 ip, fewer than 130 at bats or less than 45 days on the MLB 25 man roster.
To clarify, the 45 days don't include September. However, the innings and at-bats from September still count.

dougdirt
09-30-2011, 06:15 PM
To clarify, the 45 days don't include September. However, the innings and at-bats from September still count.

Of course in September there isn't a 25 man roster :thumbup:

camisadelgolf
09-30-2011, 07:05 PM
Of course in September there isn't a 25 man roster :thumbup:
Yeah, I just didn't want it coming back later with, "Well, Doug said . . . "

camisadelgolf
09-30-2011, 07:10 PM
Aroldis Chapman lost his eligibility as well.

mth123
10-11-2011, 07:02 PM
So, when do we kick this off and who is going to get the honor (and the hard labor) of maintaining all these threads?

I think last year we were well underway by this point.

BuckeyeRedleg
10-11-2011, 10:12 PM
Exactly. Let's do this thing.

camisadelgolf
10-12-2011, 05:19 AM
I typically handle the 41-50 list, but t's usually OBM who gets this thing started; however, I'll get it going tomorrow if I don't see a post from him. Feel free to give me a kick in the behind if you ever see me slacking since it's bound to happen at some point. We'll start with three-day polls up to 40, and if there's enough response, we'll keep going beyond that.

mth123
10-12-2011, 06:37 AM
I typically handle the 41-50 list, but t's usually OBM who gets this thing started; however, I'll get it going tomorrow if I don't see a post from him. Feel free to give me a kick in the behind if you ever see me slacking since it's bound to happen at some point. We'll start with three-day polls up to 40, and if there's enough response, we'll keep going beyond that.

That's great. This should be interesting. After number 1, the list is pretty murky. Even number 1 isn't clear cut IMO.

OnBaseMachine
10-12-2011, 02:43 PM
Feel free to take over camis. I may be getting a job in the coal mines soon so I won't really have much time to do these polls.

redsfandan
10-12-2011, 04:31 PM
That's great. This should be interesting. After number 1, the list is pretty murky. Even number 1 isn't clear cut IMO.

Seems pretty obvious to me who it should be. Not trying to start the debate early though so, I'll be looking forward to your take on that tomorrow.

Benihana
10-12-2011, 06:02 PM
Feel free to take over camis. I may be getting a job in the coal mines soon so I won't really have much time to do these polls.

Seriously?

mth123
10-12-2011, 07:28 PM
Seems pretty obvious to me who it should be. Not trying to start the debate early though so, I'll be looking forward to your take on that tomorrow.

After his call-up, I could see Alonso getting a lot of love. Probably not my choice though.

OnBaseMachine
10-13-2011, 12:19 AM
Seriously?

Yep. I've already signed up for the 80-hour training class which starts in early November.