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OnBaseMachine
10-27-2011, 09:53 PM
Lewis has allowed three runs in 4 IP, and you have the bases loaded with Lewis due up, and you allow him to hit? Seriously, Ron Washington?

The Operator
10-27-2011, 09:56 PM
Lewis has allowed four runs in 4 IP, and you have the bases loaded with Lewis due up, and you allow him to hit? Seriously, Ron Washington?Yea, I strongly disagree with that move. We'll see.

savafan
10-27-2011, 09:57 PM
Jason Motte up in the bullpen

blumj
10-27-2011, 09:58 PM
Lewis has allowed four runs in 4 IP, and you have the bases loaded with Lewis due up, and you allow him to hit? Seriously, Ron Washington?
Everyone got so caught up in LaRussa's weird managing in Game 5 that they forgot to notice Washington's.

savafan
10-27-2011, 10:00 PM
Everyone got so caught up in LaRussa's weird managing in Game 5 that they forgot to notice Washington's.

Oh, I noticed it. I believe Washington is from the Dusty Baker school of managing from the gut and giving players the benefit of the doubt.

savafan
10-27-2011, 10:03 PM
Jason Motte up in the bullpen

I must have been mistaken.

blumj
10-27-2011, 10:04 PM
I must have been mistaken.
Well done.

kbrake
10-27-2011, 10:10 PM
Lewis has allowed three runs in 4 IP, and you have the bases loaded with Lewis due up, and you allow him to hit? Seriously, Ron Washington?

Lewis has been pretty solid since the Berkman HR, but I agree really wish he had gone for the kill there.

savafan
10-27-2011, 10:19 PM
Are you kidding me? Is this the Little League World Series?

blumj
10-27-2011, 10:24 PM
This is almost like watching the September Red Sox play the September Red Sox.

savafan
10-27-2011, 10:30 PM
Matt Holliday is a good baseball player

savafan
10-27-2011, 10:38 PM
The 1919 White Sox wanted to win more than either of these two teams.

blumj
10-27-2011, 10:42 PM
Adrian Linebacker takes out another one.

Oh, and that, too.

signalhome
10-27-2011, 10:43 PM
This has been a very good/bad game.

Good in that it's been very back-and-forth.

Bad in that T-ball teams have played better defense than these two clubs tonight.

savafan
10-27-2011, 10:45 PM
This has been a very good/bad game.

Good in that it's been very back-and-forth.

Bad in that T-ball teams have played better defense than these two clubs tonight.

Yes, but the bad defense has kept it exciting.

OldXOhio
10-27-2011, 10:45 PM
Good in that it's now 6-4 after Cruz hits a blast into Big Mac Land

blumj
10-27-2011, 10:47 PM
It certainly has not been uneventful. Not just this game, but the whole series.

savafan
10-27-2011, 10:50 PM
I'd say it's more likely that Matt Holliday is out of the game due to a severely bruised ego.

savafan
10-27-2011, 10:55 PM
Dear Tony LaRussa,

Wi nøt trei a Matt Hølliday in Sweden this yër?

wally post
10-27-2011, 10:57 PM
I'm dying....



...laughing

Roy Tucker
10-27-2011, 10:58 PM
Cards have lost their mojo.

kaldaniels
10-27-2011, 10:58 PM
Everytime I watch a Cardinals member swear with Joe Buck silent in the booth, I can't help but laugh and see the irony vis a vis the Randy Moss "mooning".

savafan
10-27-2011, 11:01 PM
Somewhere tonight, Chuck Knoblauch sits on his couch watching the World Series and shakes his head at how non-fundamentally sound these guys are.

Roy Tucker
10-27-2011, 11:01 PM
That sailor has some pipes.

savafan
10-27-2011, 11:20 PM
"Hey Albert,

Got plans for Thanksgiving dinner? Text me back.

Theo

Sent from my Blackberry"

Roy Tucker
10-27-2011, 11:22 PM
Getting a little interesting. Washington hung with Holland one batter too long.

kaldaniels
10-27-2011, 11:27 PM
I hope Albert makes the final out, is that still in play?

kaldaniels
10-27-2011, 11:28 PM
I hope Albert makes the final out, is that still in play?

Dang.

savafan
10-27-2011, 11:28 PM
Jon Jay is hitless in this World Series...

Roy Tucker
10-27-2011, 11:28 PM
Hum. Really getting interesting now. Cardinals are like a cockroach, hard to kill.

Chip R
10-27-2011, 11:28 PM
Jon Jay is hitless in this World Series...

Not anymore.

paintmered
10-27-2011, 11:29 PM
And just like that, the Cardinals leave 'em loaded with a whimper.

kaldaniels
10-27-2011, 11:31 PM
When the Cards lose, is there any possibility they give Texas FULL credit, rather than "we beat ourselves" or the like?

savafan
10-27-2011, 11:32 PM
When the Cards lose, is there any possibility they give Texas FULL credit, rather than "we beat ourselves" or the like?

After this game, I think they should give the title to the Brewers or the Tigers.

Roy Tucker
10-27-2011, 11:32 PM
"Texas is a good ball club. We had our chances but just couldn't capitalize".

OldXOhio
10-27-2011, 11:38 PM
Which will get more play in the B9 from cardinal joe: the pending 1st ever WS for Texas or alberts last AB as a card?

savafan
10-27-2011, 11:45 PM
High drama

Roy Tucker
10-27-2011, 11:47 PM
Nolan Ryan looks nervous.

CySeymour
10-27-2011, 11:48 PM
If Texas loses, it's squarely on Ron Washington.

kaldaniels
10-27-2011, 11:50 PM
Allen Craig, World Series Legen.....check that.

paintmered
10-27-2011, 11:50 PM
How do you take strike three in that situation? It was a great pitch, but still...

OldXOhio
10-27-2011, 11:50 PM
Unfair

Roy Tucker
10-27-2011, 11:51 PM
Expecting a 100 mph heater and getting your knees buckled.

OldXOhio
10-27-2011, 11:51 PM
Not sure but I believe David Freese is from STL

kaldaniels
10-27-2011, 11:51 PM
How do you take strike three in that situation? It was a great pitch, but still...

Caught guessing.

savafan
10-27-2011, 11:52 PM
1 strike away

RBA
10-27-2011, 11:53 PM
Homerun?

RBA
10-27-2011, 11:53 PM
crap

savafan
10-27-2011, 11:53 PM
Holy...

WMR
10-27-2011, 11:53 PM
omfg

Roy Tucker
10-27-2011, 11:53 PM
holy crap.

Reds Fanatic
10-27-2011, 11:54 PM
Tie game. The Rangers were one strike away

kaldaniels
10-27-2011, 11:54 PM
All is well! :D

kaldaniels
10-27-2011, 11:54 PM
Jeez, Cruz should have had that.

Joseph
10-27-2011, 11:54 PM
I hate the Cardinals

Tom Servo
10-27-2011, 11:54 PM
:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::b ang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::ban g::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang:

Roy Tucker
10-27-2011, 11:54 PM
Cruz alligator-armed that one.

paintmered
10-27-2011, 11:55 PM
To extras.

savafan
10-27-2011, 11:55 PM
This is a series to remember, that's for sure. For all of the wrong reasons though, LOL

kaldaniels
10-27-2011, 11:55 PM
God forbid Buck blame Cruz, Freese is the man!

CySeymour
10-27-2011, 11:56 PM
Ugh

Roy Tucker
10-27-2011, 11:56 PM
I said a really bad word between "I can't" and "believe that".

kaldaniels
10-27-2011, 11:57 PM
On the bright side at least NeckTat didn't win it.

savafan
10-27-2011, 11:57 PM
I said a really bad word between "I can't" and "believe that".

Then I said the same thing as you verbatim

mbgrayson
10-27-2011, 11:57 PM
Jeez, Cruz should have had that.

Agreed. The replay showed that he let up for the last two steps, and missed it by a foot to the right. Very catchable ball.

MikeThierry
10-27-2011, 11:57 PM
Man, this game has shortened my life by a couple of years because of the stress.

kaldaniels
10-27-2011, 11:58 PM
Man, this game has shortened my life by a couple of years because of the stress.

On cue, its Mike! :D

signalhome
10-27-2011, 11:59 PM
Agreed. The replay showed that he let up for the last two steps, and missed it by a foot to the right. Very catchable ball.

He also appeared to get a bad jump. He has to get to that ball. Horrible.

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:00 AM
HAMILTON!!!

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:00 AM
Josh!!!!

kaldaniels
10-28-2011, 12:00 AM
HAHAHAHAHA

Reds Fanatic
10-28-2011, 12:00 AM
Hamilton homers!

OldXOhio
10-28-2011, 12:01 AM
Yeah not liking that Volquez trade still

WMR
10-28-2011, 12:01 AM
Make sure Krivsky gets a ring.

OldXOhio
10-28-2011, 12:01 AM
Way to go Josh

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:01 AM
I think LaRussa meant to have Lance Lynn still in the game.

kbrake
10-28-2011, 12:01 AM
Finally the Volquez trade pays off.

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:02 AM
Yeah not liking that Volquez trade still

Lord love a duck.

OldRightHander
10-28-2011, 12:02 AM
Couldn't think of a better guy to do it.

paintmered
10-28-2011, 12:02 AM
This has turned into a classic.

mbgrayson
10-28-2011, 12:02 AM
Hamilton pounds the stake through the Cardinal's heart! Storybook! YESSSS!!!!!!

OldXOhio
10-28-2011, 12:03 AM
Really happy for Josh. Way to go.

Reds Fanatic
10-28-2011, 12:03 AM
Looking ahead to the bottom of the inning a pitcher will be batting 3rd because they have no players left

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:04 AM
LaRussa will say "Motte? What's he doing out there?"

CySeymour
10-28-2011, 12:04 AM
I thought Joe Buck was going to cry when the ball went out

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:04 AM
Neftali Feliz blows the save, stands to be the winning pitcher.

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:05 AM
Looking ahead to the bottom of the inning a pitcher will be batting 3rd because they have no players left

Maybe Cris Carpenter will pinch hit. I'd love that.

OldRightHander
10-28-2011, 12:05 AM
I thought Joe Buck was going to cry when the ball went out

Carpenter's son did.

MikeThierry
10-28-2011, 12:05 AM
What a horrible pitch by Motte.

CySeymour
10-28-2011, 12:09 AM
What a horrible pitch by Motte.

Mike, though I don't like the Cards, I do feel for you...you're a fan, not a member of the organization.

OldXOhio
10-28-2011, 12:09 AM
Just no quit in the cards

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:10 AM
Darren Freaking Oliver trying to save a championship...

WVRedsFan
10-28-2011, 12:10 AM
Josh Hamilton = man. What a mistake. Sorry

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:11 AM
They going to have Jackson bunt?

Reds Fanatic
10-28-2011, 12:11 AM
Wow they are going to blow this again

CySeymour
10-28-2011, 12:11 AM
Could Larussa pull a slug bunt here?

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:12 AM
Darren Oliver is 75 years old, isn't he?

WVRedsFan
10-28-2011, 12:12 AM
Of course, the Texans will give this away. I thought our bullpen was clueless, but then again...

OldRightHander
10-28-2011, 12:12 AM
My 3 favorite numbers are 6, 4, and 3.

Reds Fanatic
10-28-2011, 12:12 AM
Loose pinch hitting

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:12 AM
How was that not a strike?

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:13 AM
Quite the play by Andrus.

paintmered
10-28-2011, 12:13 AM
There's a bit of everything in this game, isn't there?

CySeymour
10-28-2011, 12:14 AM
No righty in the pen?

RBA
10-28-2011, 12:14 AM
I thought when you square around to bunt and don't pull the bat back, it is a strike. Never knew they are balls in MLB.

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:14 AM
Pujols could be the final out.

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:14 AM
Ron Washington has Rangers colors glasses, blue and red.

Zippy.

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:17 AM
I think this game will come down to Nolan Ryan vs. Mark McGwire.

CySeymour
10-28-2011, 12:17 AM
I think this game will come down to Nolan Ryan vs. Mark McGwire.

heheheh

blumj
10-28-2011, 12:17 AM
There's a bit of everything in this game, isn't there?

Seems like more than a bit of most of them.

WVRedsFan
10-28-2011, 12:18 AM
Offense rules!

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:19 AM
Walk Pujols?

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:19 AM
Walk Pujols?

Yep

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:20 AM
Yep. Berkman ain't not walk in the park though, A killer B.

RBA
10-28-2011, 12:20 AM
Walk Berkman too. ?

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:21 AM
Golly. What a game.

kaldaniels
10-28-2011, 12:21 AM
Walk Berkman too. ?

He's meaningless.

CySeymour
10-28-2011, 12:22 AM
Berkman just missed that pitch

WVRedsFan
10-28-2011, 12:22 AM
Why oh why? Why it alway come down to their killers? It never works out that way for us. Oh yeah, we only have one of those.

Playadlc
10-28-2011, 12:22 AM
Jay is scoring on a hit regardless guys.

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:22 AM
1 strike away... again...

Playadlc
10-28-2011, 12:23 AM
Unreal.

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:23 AM
Holy smokes.

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:23 AM
crap

CySeymour
10-28-2011, 12:23 AM
Son of a ....

Reds Fanatic
10-28-2011, 12:23 AM
Unbelievable

RBA
10-28-2011, 12:24 AM
Should have walked him.

KronoRed
10-28-2011, 12:24 AM
:laugh:

OldRightHander
10-28-2011, 12:24 AM
%$&@!!

paintmered
10-28-2011, 12:24 AM
ESPN will turn this game into a 30 for 30 documentary one of these years.

mbgrayson
10-28-2011, 12:24 AM
Reds v. Red Sox, Game 6 in 1975 is now the 2nd best WS game of all time...

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:24 AM
Classic ballgame.

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:25 AM
Shouldn't have left Colby Lewis in to bat with the bases loaded...

CySeymour
10-28-2011, 12:25 AM
Shouldn't have left Colby Lewis in to bat with the bases loaded...

Exactly!

MikeThierry
10-28-2011, 12:26 AM
I don't know if my heart can take this game, haha

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:26 AM
If I were a Ranger fan, I'd be looking for a razor to slash my wrists with.

OldXOhio
10-28-2011, 12:26 AM
Try a McRib Mike

mbgrayson
10-28-2011, 12:27 AM
Cards may regret burning up Jackson last inning. They are running short of players....both teams are....

WVRedsFan
10-28-2011, 12:27 AM
What you get when you sign real players. He made the difference in this team this year. Washed up? Hardly.

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:27 AM
I don't know if my heart can take this game, haha

So Mike don't you have any Cardinal pals to hang with?

MikeThierry
10-28-2011, 12:28 AM
So Mike don't you have any Cardinal pals to hang with?

gahh, screw the Cardinals friends. You guys are awesome! :)

Tom Servo
10-28-2011, 12:28 AM
Westbrook can give up some runs.

CySeymour
10-28-2011, 12:29 AM
Ron Washington is making Dusty look like Sparky Anderson

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:29 AM
gahh, screw the Cardinals friends. You guys are awesome! :)

Yay us.

I gotta think they'd be going bananas in 80 bazillion different ways.

WVRedsFan
10-28-2011, 12:31 AM
gahh, screw the Cardinals friends. You guys are awesome! :)
Hot digity!

Glad you are enjoying this Mike. I'm not.

kaldaniels
10-28-2011, 12:32 AM
Washingtons worst move was burning Holland up tonight IMO.

KronoRed
10-28-2011, 12:33 AM
I wonder who the first manager to ditch the paper and pen for the in dugout tablet will be.

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:33 AM
Ron Washington doesn't look very good.

WVRedsFan
10-28-2011, 12:34 AM
Lariussa. He's the bomb. IPads from now on.

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:34 AM
This right here is why I don't want to see the NL adopt the DH rule.

MikeThierry
10-28-2011, 12:35 AM
This right here is why I don't want to see the NL adopt the DH rule.

+1

:beerme:

kbrake
10-28-2011, 12:36 AM
Not been a good night for Washington that is for sure.

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:37 AM
Nice montage of great Game 6's.

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:38 AM
I hope Lowe is on a very short leash

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:39 AM
Yeah, Lowe has the deer in the headlights look.

George Anderson
10-28-2011, 12:39 AM
I thought when you square around to bunt and don't pull the bat back, it is a strike. Never knew they are balls in MLB.

No, even if the bat is out there in bunt form as an umpire you still need to feel he offered at it to call it a strike.

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:39 AM
yep.

WMR
10-28-2011, 12:40 AM
Epic fail.

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:40 AM
Well, we'll have a game 7

paintmered
10-28-2011, 12:40 AM
It was only appropriate for this to end in a walk-off. Texas was one strike away...twice.

OldXOhio
10-28-2011, 12:40 AM
No way Texas recovers from this

WMR
10-28-2011, 12:40 AM
Carpenter will pitch a gem and Cards will win the WS.

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:41 AM
Nolan Ryan looks like he ate a bad pickle.

WMR
10-28-2011, 12:41 AM
Nolan Ryan looks like he ate a bad pickle.

He's thinking, "Where's Robin Ventura when you need him?"

MrCinatit
10-28-2011, 12:41 AM
The Rangers pen looked they they had absolutely not one bit of interest in a championship.

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:41 AM
Quite the ballgame. I agree, had to end with a walk-off.

pedro
10-28-2011, 12:41 AM
Holy cow

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:42 AM
Carpenter will pitch a gem and Cards will win the WS.

Against Matt Harrison or CJ Wilson?

WVRedsFan
10-28-2011, 12:42 AM
Ron Washington makes Dusty look like a genius. What a screw up. Have leads of 3 and 2 runs so many times. Offense rules.

Edskin
10-28-2011, 12:42 AM
Anyone notice Joe Buck used the exact same call his Dad did in 1991? Very well played by Buck.

KronoRed
10-28-2011, 12:42 AM
Rangers could use a few rain outs to get their act together

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:42 AM
Lowe had that look of "oh my god, what am I doing out here, I want my mama"

MikeThierry
10-28-2011, 12:43 AM
I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight. What a game. Holy cow!

mbgrayson
10-28-2011, 12:45 AM
No way Texas recovers from this

That's what the Red Sox fans said in 1975...and they were wrong.

Cedric
10-28-2011, 12:46 AM
So the rangers blow a two run lead when they faced Descalso, Jay, and Theriot to start the 10th? Series over.

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:46 AM
The Rangers pen looked they they had absolutely not one bit of interest in a championship.

Just...I mean, Darren Oliver in to close out the win? I was 11 when he broke into the game, and I'm 34 now. I've seen him blow way more games than he's saved.

WVRedsFan
10-28-2011, 12:46 AM
"...and for baseball", says Joe Buck. Wow.

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:46 AM
Man, I can't believe the Rangers gagged up a such a giant hairball.

Edskin
10-28-2011, 12:48 AM
That's what the Red Sox fans said in 1975...and they were wrong.

That was the exception....

86 Red Sox
91 Braves
03 Cubs (NLCS)

Teams that lost dramatic game 6's and then lost in 7.

I would be shocked if Texas wins tomorrow

Cedric
10-28-2011, 12:48 AM
Man, I can't believe the Rangers gagged up a such a giant hairball.

Looking like the baseball version of the Buffalo Bills.

savafan
10-28-2011, 12:48 AM
Man, I can't believe the Rangers gagged up a such a giant hairball.

What Mookie Wilson did to Bill Buckner in 1986 just happened to the Rangers, and it happened twice.

KronoRed
10-28-2011, 12:48 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow is a blow out.

paulrichjr
10-28-2011, 12:51 AM
What Mookie Wilson did to Bill Buckner in 1986 just happened to the Rangers, and it happened twice.

This time it was the manager's fault though. Horrible horrible decision making over and over.

WVRedsFan
10-28-2011, 12:51 AM
Cards win 11-0 and Chris and Tony are crowned as the best ever. Sucks.

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:51 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow is a blow out.

Smells a bit like the '85 Cardinals-Royals-Don-Denkinger blown call and the Cards melted down in game 7 after a bad bad game 6 loss.

Johnny Footstool
10-28-2011, 12:53 AM
That was the exception....

86 Red Sox
91 Braves
03 Cubs (NLCS)

Teams that lost dramatic game 6's and then lost in 7.

I would be shocked if Texas wins tomorrow

'85 Cards

Roy Tucker
10-28-2011, 12:58 AM
These late games kill me. I gotta get up in 4.5 hrs.

Fun ballgame though. Worth staying up for, even if it was the Cardinals.

The Operator
10-28-2011, 01:07 AM
That sucked on so many levels.

How many World Series' do you see where the opposing managers each personally lose a game with idiotic decision making? Washington's moves tonight were just ridiculous.

When he left Colby Lewis in I kept thinking back to '03 ALCS when Grady Little left a gassed Pedro Martinez in the game and ultimately they ended up losing. Wow.

westofyou
10-28-2011, 01:08 AM
These late games kill me. I gotta get up in 4.5 hrs.

Fun ballgame though. Worth staying up for, even if it was the Cardinals.

Game Six is the evidently the joker card in the World Series deck

OnBaseMachine
10-28-2011, 01:12 AM
No way the Rangers win game 7, IMO.

westofyou
10-28-2011, 01:13 AM
No way the Rangers win game 7, IMO.


Either they end up like the 1985 Cardinals or the 1975 Reds

vaticanplum
10-28-2011, 02:01 AM
The Rangers win tomorrow.

gilpdawg
10-28-2011, 02:17 AM
Not happy with the result, but games like that are why I still love baseball.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using Tapatalk

757690
10-28-2011, 02:42 AM
Even though I dislike this Cardinal team on a personal level, simply because of certain individuals who are part of it, I have to admire what a great baseball story their season has been, and no matter what happens tomorrow, they need to be congratulated for putting together one of the most impressive Cinderella seasons ever.

They lost their ace pitcher before the season started, lost their best player in the middle of the season, signed an injured former star to a dumb, lottery ticket contract, released their closer early in the season and relied on rookies for the pen, had a horrible defense all season long, traded their best young player at the deadline for spare parts, overcame a double digit deficit to win the wildcard on the last day of the season, beat the overwhelming best team in the league with a 1-0 game 5 victory, beat their division rivals to go the World Series, and now this game.

No matter how much it turns my stomach, I have to be very impressed.

Ron Madden
10-28-2011, 02:58 AM
Has there been a worse World Series to have to watch if you're a Cardinal fan?

I'm not really what you would call a Cardinal Fan but I think it's been a very entertaining World Series and I have to give the Cards credit for their ability to bounce back with resilience and never give up style of play.

Reds/Flyers Fan
10-28-2011, 03:19 AM
Great game tonight! Awesome drama! Lousy result. Hopefully Tejas can rally tomorrow. Though I'm not holding out much hope.

Ron Madden
10-28-2011, 03:31 AM
Even though I dislike this Cardinal team on a personal level, simply because of certain individuals who are part of it, I have to admire what a great baseball story their season has been, and no matter what happens tomorrow, they need to be congratulated for putting together one of the most impressive Cinderella seasons ever.

They lost their ace pitcher before the season started, lost their best player in the middle of the season, signed an injured former star to a dumb, lottery ticket contract, released their closer early in the season and relied on rookies for the pen, had a horrible defense all season long, traded their best young player at the deadline for spare parts, overcame a double digit deficit to win the wildcard on the last day of the season, beat the overwhelming best team in the league with a 1-0 game 5 victory, beat their division rivals to go the World Series, and now this game.

No matter how much it turns my stomach, I have to be very impressed.

I agree.

Ron Madden
10-28-2011, 04:04 AM
If I was LaRussa I'd start Kyle Lohse in game seven, let him go until he runs into trouble then use Carpenter until he gets in trouble and go to the pen from there.

Vottomatic
10-28-2011, 07:11 AM
I will never like or respect the Cardinals. Worst representative of sportsmanship in MLB.

lollipopcurve
10-28-2011, 07:16 AM
Even though I dislike this Cardinal team on a personal level, simply because of certain individuals who are part of it, I have to admire what a great baseball story their season has been, and no matter what happens tomorrow, they need to be congratulated for putting together one of the most impressive Cinderella seasons ever.

They lost their ace pitcher before the season started, lost their best player in the middle of the season, signed an injured former star to a dumb, lottery ticket contract, released their closer early in the season and relied on rookies for the pen, had a horrible defense all season long, traded their best young player at the deadline for spare parts, overcame a double digit deficit to win the wildcard on the last day of the season, beat the overwhelming best team in the league with a 1-0 game 5 victory, beat their division rivals to go the World Series, and now this game.

Agree 100% -- excellent post. Phenomenal season, and I'm rooting for them tonight, hard as that may be to say. That is one very tough, determined baseball team.

Cyclone792
10-28-2011, 07:46 AM
These late games kill me. I gotta get up in 4.5 hrs.

Fun ballgame though. Worth staying up for, even if it was the Cardinals.

I've given up on the late games, sad as that sounds. I guess I'm just tired of being tired the next day. Wish I could have stayed up to finish watching it, but that early alarm is a killer. I've got it DVR'd so I'll scroll through the big moments, but it still isn't anything near watching it live and not knowing what's going to happen until it does.

Maybe I'm just getting old. Get off my lawn.

Thankfully, though, Wednesday night's rain out has pushed tonight's game to a Friday night so I will be watching Game 7, even if it goes 20 innings.

wlf WV
10-28-2011, 07:51 AM
Makes me long for the old TV shows where you knew who the good guys were,and that
eventually they would win.

cumberlandreds
10-28-2011, 08:03 AM
Washingtons worst move was burning Holland up tonight IMO.

Totally agree. How do you not save Holland for a game 7? He only pitched a shutout his last time out and he would be on normal rest. Just a baffling decision. LaRussa won't make that terrible decision. I'm sure Carpenter will go tonight even on short rest.
I DVR'd the game so I didn't watch it live. This is certainly one of the all time great games. It may surpass Game 6 of the 75 series. You have to give the Cards credit for never giving up. It started before the season when they lost their ace to injury and carried on throughout the year. You may not like them but they are one tough bunch.
I can't see the Rangers winning tonight. How can you overcome what they did last night and play just a decent game tonight? If they get behind early it will be lights out for them. I hope it is a great game. Game 7's of Word Series are what all baseball fans live for. For the fans and for the games sake I hope it's every bit as exciting as last night's game.

cumberlandreds
10-28-2011, 08:08 AM
Just to make RZ feel better,;) the last time a road team won a game 7 in the World Series was 1979. That was the We are Fam-uh-lee Pirates led by Willie Stargell.

TRF
10-28-2011, 09:40 AM
I was at different times pulling for both teams. What an amazing game! It has been a great series and going seven, with an NBA lockout, a disappointing NFL season due to a lockout and the NHL being... well... the NHL, helps baseball a lot.

I am still stunned over that shot by Freese.

Tom Servo
10-28-2011, 09:49 AM
Man, I just don't know how anybody could be pulling for the Cardinals. If Carpenter's swearing at Napoli isn't a reminder of the ridiculous double-standard for 'respect' and 'playing the game the right way' they have, I don't know what is.

Chip R
10-28-2011, 09:52 AM
I don`t want to sound sacriligious but i was thinking even before Game 6 that this series reminded me a lot of the 75 Series. with the rain delay and the epic 6th game and now the extra inning walkoff home run by the home town (Fisk wasn`t from Boston but close enough) guy really made the similarities eerie. Now the World Series is on the tip of everyone`s tongue in the middle of the NFL season. Now let`s hope the Rangers can do what the Reds did in 75.

Homer Bailey
10-28-2011, 10:32 AM
Thank goodness I bet on the Cardinals TWICE to hedge my happiness. Bet them at +140 before the series, and +240 before the game last night.

Luckily for all of you, I've been wrong on pretty much every single baseball bet I've made this year.

BuckeyeRedleg
10-28-2011, 10:46 AM
Rooting against the Cards is an exercise in futility. Just like a Bengals/Browns fan rooting against the Steelers. Just like a non-SEC fan rooting against Alabama and every other SEC team. Just like an NBA fan rooting against any of the six or so NBA teams that have one championships the past 30 years. As an Ohio sports fan, I’m convinced we are meant to suffer. Not only at our own team’s failures, but watching our rivals win like they did last night.

It seems that forever we have been forced to watch great things happen to the teams we despise. I have an idea. Maybe we should just not despise them anymore and give up on the hate. Just appreciate what our team does and let go of the rest.

With that said, Go Cards!

Maybe now that a Reds fan has posted that they will get no-hit (like our team did).

Sea Ray
10-28-2011, 10:47 AM
That sucked on so many levels.

How many World Series' do you see where the opposing managers each personally lose a game with idiotic decision making? Washington's moves tonight were just ridiculous.

When he left Colby Lewis in I kept thinking back to '03 ALCS when Grady Little left a gassed Pedro Martinez in the game and ultimately they ended up losing. Wow.

Too many bad decisions to list but what's he thinking by leaving his outfielders in a no doubles defense with two out and the tying run at 2nd?

WVRed
10-28-2011, 10:48 AM
While I think momentum has clearly shifted to St Louis, I just wonder how many people on here that are saying St Louis will win tonight also predicted the Red Sox would win the WS after Carlton Fisk's HR?

IMO Ron Washington went in for the kill yesterday by using Holland. It does mean that CJ Wilson and Matt Harrison will be the pitchers tonight, but Holland was the best option available. Texas wanted to end the world series last night and it showed considerably in the moves made by Wash.

What really will be bad is that if St Louis wins tonight, we get to hear how LaDoubleday won with his decisionmaking, completely ignoring that he burned up his entire bench last night. There are nights Tony makes good moves, but when he makes bad ones, luck bailes him out or he blames something else (the phones).

If St Louis wins tonight, the ASG/home field advantage decision by Selig seriously needs to come under review. I know people didn't expect the Cardinals to make it this far, but giving home field advantage to a team that made it as a wild card on the last day of the season over a division winner is asinine. It might be one thing if its Tampa, but St Louis is a baseball mecca and its clear who has the advantage.

Oh, and Neftali Feliz is a younger, cheaper Francisco Cordero. Just sayin'.

cumberlandreds
10-28-2011, 11:40 AM
I don`t want to sound sacriligious but i was thinking even before Game 6 that this series reminded me a lot of the 75 Series. with the rain delay and the epic 6th game and now the extra inning walkoff home run by the home town (Fisk wasn`t from Boston but close enough) guy really made the similarities eerie. Now the World Series is on the tip of everyone`s tongue in the middle of the NFL season. Now let`s hope the Rangers can do what the Reds did in 75.

I thought the same, especially after reading about last nights game. Both series had lots of twists,turns and those odd little things that happen that make baseball great. We will see if the Rangers can measure up to how the Reds responded in 1975. I hope I'm wrong but I doubt they will.

OldXOhio
10-28-2011, 12:07 PM
That's what the Red Sox fans said in 1975...and they were wrong.

The Reds didn't have 3 blown saves in that game, nor were they within 1 strike of the title on one occasion, much less two.

reds1869
10-28-2011, 12:25 PM
My dislike of the Cardinals is strong but I have to admit I was like a little kid again watching Game Six. This is the postseason every baseball fan dreams of.

RBA
10-28-2011, 01:04 PM
Using the Cardinals excuse: The Rangers beat themselves

OnBaseMachine
10-28-2011, 01:06 PM
So apparently Cardinals fans were leaving in bunches last night in the 7th and 8th innings. Best fans in baseball my butt.

jojo
10-28-2011, 01:16 PM
So apparently Cardinals fans were leaving in bunches last night in the 7th and 8th innings. Best fans in baseball my butt.

The Cards fans I know are the epitome of baseball fans.

The Operator
10-28-2011, 02:40 PM
Just how far does Cardinal country reach? I'm in my first year of grad work at UK and all week long I've been seeing droves of people in Cardinal paraphernalia. In Lexington! It's a freakin' epidemic...

mbgrayson
10-28-2011, 03:45 PM
The worst thing about the Cardinals making it all the way through the World Series for Reds fans may come down to revenue.

How much extra money have the Cardinals taken in, both in ticket sales, concessions, TV and radio revenue, and licensing money? Lots... and that can't be good for the Reds in the next few years.

OldXOhio
10-28-2011, 04:01 PM
Just how far does Cardinal country reach? I'm in my first year of grad work at UK and all week long I've been seeing droves of people in Cardinal paraphernalia. In Lexington! It's a freakin' epidemic...

We're almost smack dab in the middle area between STL and DFW and this is a Cardinal town to the core....there's Red everywhere here. Has to do with previous ties to the Cardinals AA affiliate, the successful history of the franchise and something as simple as getting to hear Jack Buck on the radio from days gone by.

OldXOhio
10-28-2011, 04:07 PM
The worst thing about the Cardinals making it all the way through the World Series for Reds fans may come down to revenue.

How much extra money have the Cardinals taken in, both in ticket sales, concessions, TV and radio revenue, and licensing money? Lots... and that can't be good for the Reds in the next few years.

No doubt $$ is a part and will continue to be, but here are other difference makers for the Cardinals during their run, all of whom are at least fairly cheap by today's standards:

Allen Craig
Lance Berkman
David Freese
Octavio Dotel
Jason Motte

I give STL credit on a number of fronts.

OnBaseMachine
10-28-2011, 04:42 PM
The Cards fans I know are the epitome of baseball fans.

The Cards fans I know are arrogant and some of the worst around.

Hoosier Red
10-28-2011, 04:45 PM
Man, I just don't know how anybody could be pulling for the Cardinals. If Carpenter's swearing at Napoli isn't a reminder of the ridiculous double-standard for 'respect' and 'playing the game the right way' they have, I don't know what is.

It clearly wasn't as egregious, but I did find it funny that the cameras caught Napoli saying "*BLEEP* YEAH!" after a big out. I think it was after he caught Holliday off 3rd base?

Anyways, while I think Carpenter was certainly over the line, the area around a field is not for virgin ears.

757690
10-28-2011, 05:17 PM
The Cards fans I know are the epitome of baseball fans.

Me too, but that's because I'm old.

I've been to the new Busch stadium, and trust me, there's a new breed of Cardinal fans that are an embarrassment to the knowledgable and classy ones that I grew up knowing. It's actually something that my older Cardinal fan friends complain about.

westofyou
10-28-2011, 05:21 PM
The Cards fans I know are arrogant and some of the worst around.

Everyone hates everyone else's fan base it's as old as the game, and frankly I find it a terrible waste of time.

VR
10-28-2011, 05:25 PM
Everyone hates everyone else's fan base it's as old as the game, and frankly I find it a terrible waste of time.

True. All we do is describe ourselves.

George Anderson
10-28-2011, 05:45 PM
On his worst day, a Cards fan isn't half as annoying or clueless as a Cubs fan.

jojo
10-28-2011, 05:45 PM
The Cards fans I know are arrogant and some of the worst around.

That's strange because, in my experiences, I can more often than not expect an intelligent, fun discussion about baseball (all things baseball) when bumping into an average Cardinals fan.

Do you engage them with some of the same views on the Cardinals organization that you've posted around here? People tend to be less engaging when insulted.

Strikes Out Looking
10-28-2011, 06:01 PM
On his worst day, a Cards fan isn't half as annoying or clueless as a Cubs fan.

At this point, I'm not upset with the Cardinal fans or Cub fans. I'm upset with the organization known as the Cincinnati Reds for not being prepared to play a full season and quitting with six weeks left in the season. Everytime in the future that I think of this post-season that is what I will think about.

Vottomatic
10-28-2011, 06:06 PM
At this point, I'm not upset with the Cardinal fans or Cub fans. I'm upset with the organization known as the Cincinnati Reds for not being prepared to play a full season and quitting with six weeks left in the season. Everytime in the future that I think of this post-season that is what I will think about.

But.....but......."we're simply not going to lose anymore".

Tom Servo
10-28-2011, 07:06 PM
It clearly wasn't as egregious, but I did find it funny that the cameras caught Napoli saying "*BLEEP* YEAH!" after a big out. I think it was after he caught Holliday off 3rd base?

Anyways, while I think Carpenter was certainly over the line, the area around a field is not for virgin ears.
That's a fair point, but I think there's a difference between swearing in the moment during/after a play and swearing AT your opponent after you got him out.

AtomicDumpling
10-28-2011, 07:29 PM
The game last night was an epic dramatic contest to be sure, but what struck me most was the terrible display of baseball skill and strategy on both sides. Both teams deserved to lose that game. Neither team looked like they deserved to be in the World Series. Errors on easy plays, misplays, poor base running, getting picked off at third, walking in the tying run, total inability to lay down decent bunts, closers blowing 2-run leads because they can't throw a strike, inept managing -- all and all an embarrassing game for both teams. Both teams choked. This was not a triumphant example of a never-say-die team refusing to give up, the Cardinals blew the game several times and so did the Rangers.

I usually root for the National League team, but I can't do that this year because I refuse to support a 2nd-place team. How can you claim to be the best team if you can't even win your own division? The Cardinals proved over a 162 game season they were not as good as the Brewers and in my opinion they did not deserve to even be in the postseason. As a baseball purist I feel that any time a wild card team wins the World Series it is illegitimate. It has happened before and will happen again but it definitely cheapens the integrity of the sport. It diminishes the championships earned by truly great teams to be lumped in with undeserving second-rate teams that won titles despite clearly not being all that good.

savafan
10-28-2011, 08:08 PM
Game 7 starting out as fundamentally sound as Game 6 ended.

The Operator
10-28-2011, 08:14 PM
Rangers jump up 2-0 on Crissy in the first.

Hopefully the game keeps going like this.

15fan
10-28-2011, 08:14 PM
Nice start for the Rangers.

savafan
10-28-2011, 08:16 PM
Karen Carpenter doesn't look too good tonight.

757690
10-28-2011, 08:20 PM
I don't think it matters if the Cardinals win the final game or not. They have had a dream season like I have never seen. Even if they don't win tonight's game, if I were a Cardinal fan, I would be just as proud of this season as I would any other season in which the Cardinals won the World Series.

OnBaseMachine
10-28-2011, 08:27 PM
Great decision by Washington to start Matt Harrison. Is there any way he keeps his job if/when the Rangers blow this?

savafan
10-28-2011, 08:27 PM
Forget walking Pujols, he was 0 for everything but one game. Do not pitch to David Freese!

thatcoolguy_22
10-28-2011, 08:28 PM
David Freese makes Rangers' pitching look like Aurthur on a binge.

jojo
10-28-2011, 08:34 PM
Great decision by Washington to start Matt Harrison. Is there any way he keeps his job if/when the Rangers blow this?

Yes.

The Operator
10-28-2011, 08:36 PM
Is it just me, or does Texas' entire rotation, sans Colby Lewis, throw 95 MPH? They've got a bright future regardless of this game's outcome.

savafan
10-28-2011, 08:38 PM
The last time the first man up in the visiting bullpen in Game 7 of a World Series prior to the fifth inning who also had a cousin named Nancy was 1924.

The Operator
10-28-2011, 08:43 PM
I think a lot less of Roy Halladay knowing he's bff with Crissy.

savafan
10-28-2011, 08:45 PM
I think a lot less of Roy Halladay knowing he's bff with Crissy.

I'm guessing it goes back to when they were both with the Blue Jays.

The Operator
10-28-2011, 08:56 PM
I'm guessing it goes back to when they were both with the Blue Jays.
Oh I'm sure it does, but I'd say Chrissy has always been a bit of an... erm, Molina. Ya know?

savafan
10-28-2011, 09:01 PM
Oh I'm sure it does, but I'd say Chrissy has always been a bit of an... erm, Molina. Ya know?



http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/molina


molina [mo-lee’-nah]
noun
1. Oil-mill of large capacity. (f)
(Recent.)

He's an oil-mill? :confused:

jojo
10-28-2011, 09:04 PM
Oh I'm sure it does, but I'd say Chrissy has always been a bit of an... erm, Molina. Ya know?

Say what you will about Carpenter but he has out hit Phillips this post season.

savafan
10-28-2011, 09:05 PM
Michael Young is a terrible shortstop and a horrible second baseman, but he's absolutely abysmal at first.

The Operator
10-28-2011, 09:07 PM
Say what you will about Carpenter but he has out hit Phillips this post season.Okay? He's outhit the entire Mariners team, and 21 other teams as well. What's your point?

He's a great talent but a world-class tool.