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savafan
10-23-2011, 11:24 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Major-League-Baseball-considering-a-beer-ban-in-?urn=mlb-wp25139


ARLINGTON, Texas Overreact much? Joe Torre said on Sunday that Major League Baseball is considering a league-wide ban on beer in the clubhouse in the wake of the huge fallout from the Boston Red Sox's "beer and fried chicken" report.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/dailypitch/post/2011/10/major-league-baseball-ban-alcohol/1


ARLINGTON, Texas -- Major League Baseball is considering issuing a widespread ban on alcohol in clubhouses after the Boston Red Sox's widely reported incidents, according to vice president Joe Torre.

http://www.nesn.com/2011/10/joe-torre-mlb-concerned-about-red-sox-clubhouse-drinking-could-consider-banning-alcohol-from-clubhou.html


One of the biggest storylines surrounding the Red Sox this offseason has been the news that players drank beer in the team's clubhouse during games. Major League Baseball executive vice president of baseball operations Joe Torre has said that his office will look into the situation further, according to The Boston Globe.

mbgrayson
10-23-2011, 11:27 PM
If they do ban beer in clubhouses, I will have to give up my dream of playing MLB....After all, principles are principles. :beerme:

Chip R
10-23-2011, 11:29 PM
Are they going to ban chicken too?

The Operator
10-24-2011, 12:31 AM
Talk about knee jerk reactions.

If The Red Sox really do cause 29 other teams to lose their drinking privileges, there will be so many hexes flowing their way that the curse of the bambino will seem like a fond, romantic memory.

HeatherC1212
10-24-2011, 12:46 AM
I don't agree with banning it from the clubhouses but maybe it shouldn't be available during the actual games. I'm not entirely sure how the whole clubhouse thing works for most teams, but I know I'm not allowed to drink when I'm at my job so why should they have alcohol available while they're 'working' at theirs? Just my half a cent thought on the matter. :p

The Operator
10-24-2011, 01:09 AM
I don't agree with banning it from the clubhouses but maybe it shouldn't be available during the actual games. I'm not entirely sure how the whole clubhouse thing works for most teams, but I know I'm not allowed to drink when I'm at my job so why should they have alcohol available while they're 'working' at theirs? Just my half a cent thought on the matter. :pThere are certain every day jobs where drinking is permissible, though. Traveling salesman taking clients out for business lunches or dinners springs to mind.

I personally don't have any problem with a starting pitcher drinking a beer on a night he's not pitching. Unless it's a symptom of a larger alcohol problem, and starts affecting his performance, it just doesn't seem that bad to me.

RedsManRick
10-24-2011, 01:10 AM
If there's one thing Bud and his crew can do, it's be completely reactionary, changing rules only when something embarrassing happens (replay, ASG, etc).

Always Red
10-24-2011, 08:52 AM
If there's one thing Bud and his crew can do, it's be completely reactionary, changing rules only when something embarrassing happens (replay, ASG, etc).

Yeah, I can't wait to read those memoirs, especially after he spends a year staring at the coeds at Madison. :lol:

George Anderson
10-24-2011, 10:01 AM
If there's one thing Bud and his crew can do, it's be completely reactionary, changing rules only when something embarrassing happens (replay, ASG, etc).

The third base coach wearing the helmet is something to this day I still cannot believe.

I am betting Mike Coolbaugh is thinking from above that MLB and Selig overreacted.

Blitz Dorsey
10-24-2011, 10:05 AM
Next thing you know, my boss is going to ban the drinking of beer at my office.

Oh wait, I would get fired if I were drinking on the job. That's right.

Can you imagine an NFL player having a beer at halftime? There is plenty of time for these guys to drink. No need to have it in the clubhouse itself. And I am no prude.

CySeymour
10-24-2011, 10:11 AM
Next thing you know, my boss is going to ban the drinking of beer at my office.

Oh wait, I would get fired if I were drinking on the job. That's right.

Can you imagine an NFL player having a beer at halftime? There is plenty of time for these guys to drink. No need to have it in the clubhouse itself. And I am no prude.

I agree. You mean they can't wait until after the game to have a brew?

westofyou
10-24-2011, 10:15 AM
Hancock beer moment 2007

http://blogs.csoonline.com/baseballs_big_beer_ban

A team called the "Brewers" reacts

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2866076

2009 Beer ban in Toronto

http://bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3162:buzz-kill-beer-and-alcohol-banned-from-rogers-centre-games&catid=41:facility-news&Itemid=56

2010 suggestions of a ban on stuff not made of grain and water

http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2010/02/02/of_things_baseball_needs_to_ban_beer_in_the_clubho use_isn_t_first_on_the_list/

Roy Tucker
10-24-2011, 10:39 AM
I think 18 out of 30 teams already ban alcohol from their clubhouses because of drinking and driving issues (Josh Hancock).

http://articles.boston.com/2011-10-20/sports/30302963_1_beer-policy-clubhouse-dustin-pedroia

I'm dating myself, but I remember company-sponsored events where beer was supplied by my employer. Plus beers at lunch on Friday was commonplace. That morphed into company events with a cash-bar that morphed into no alcohol at any company event. Alcohol is now strictly forbidden.

There are days when I'd sure as heck want a cold one at work, but those days are gone.

Chip R
10-24-2011, 10:46 AM
Talk about knee jerk reactions.

If The Red Sox really do cause 29 other teams to lose their drinking privileges, there will be so many hexes flowing their way that the curse of the bambino will seem like a fond, romantic memory.

I read that around half the teams have banned alcohol from the clubhouse. I personally think it's an overreaction. If this happened in San Diego or Minnesota no one would care. I don't think players should be drinking during the game but there's nothing wrong with a few cold ones after the game.

edabbs44
10-24-2011, 10:58 AM
Maybe it is less of an overreaction and more of the straw that broke the camel's back.

Chip R
10-24-2011, 01:02 PM
Maybe it is less of an overreaction and more of the straw that broke the camel's back.

It is an overreaction. As I said before, why not ban takeout fried chicken? Why not ban video games? Here's a dirty little secret: baseball players have been drinking beer in the clubhouse ever since they had clubhouses. Now all of a sudden it's a problem? I would have thought the Josh Hancock death would elicit this kind of a reaction but is this because one of MLB's cash cows didn't make the playoffs? If a team feels they should ban beer from their clubhouse, fine. But why is MLB getting involved all of a sudden?

Unassisted
10-24-2011, 02:12 PM
Maybe it is less of an overreaction and more of the straw that broke the camel's back.If that straw had broken the camel's back in li'l old Tampa or Minnesota instead of big ol' Boston, I wonder if this would even be under serious consideration. :p

RANDY IN INDY
10-24-2011, 02:17 PM
It is an overreaction. As I said before, why not ban takeout fried chicken? Why not ban video games? Here's a dirty little secret: baseball players have been drinking beer in the clubhouse ever since they had clubhouses. Now all of a sudden it's a problem? I would have thought the Josh Hancock death would elicit this kind of a reaction but is this because one of MLB's cash cows didn't make the playoffs? If a team feels they should ban beer from their clubhouse, fine. But why is MLB getting involved all of a sudden?

Ban tobacco but drinking beer in the clubhouse during games is OK?

Chip R
10-24-2011, 02:19 PM
Ban tobacco but drinking beer in the clubhouse during games is OK?

I didn't say during games. After games is all right.

mbgrayson
10-24-2011, 02:24 PM
And let's remember that the Commissioner of baseball's name is "Bud".
;)

George Anderson
10-24-2011, 02:26 PM
And let's remember that the Commissioner of baseball's name is "Bud".
;)

Who used to own the "Brewers".

blumj
10-24-2011, 02:40 PM
If that straw had broken the camel's back in li'l old Tampa or Minnesota instead of big ol' Boston, I wonder if this would even be under serious consideration. :p
The media in Tampa or Minnesota probably would never even imagine they could turn grown men drinking beer and eating fried chicken into a major controversy.

UKFlounder
10-24-2011, 02:55 PM
But few, if any, call him "wiser" (weiser) :)


And let's remember that the Commissioner of baseball's name is "Bud".
;)

traderumor
10-24-2011, 03:00 PM
I'm not following the logic of MLB. Red Sox collapsed, attributed to rumors of players loafing in the clubhouse (begging the question), and that is a league wide problem? Huh?

By that logic, fancy leather chairs should have been banned league wide because of the chairgate incident in Reds Country, which apparently caused the Reds pitchers to give up a lot of home runs and outfielders to wear cement shoes while chasing fly balls.

savafan
10-24-2011, 10:59 PM
I'm not sure why it's that big of a deal.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/news/2003/02/27/wells_hangover_ap/


NEW YORK (AP) -- David Wells was "half-drunk" when he pitched a perfect game for the New York Yankees in 1998.

blumj
10-25-2011, 12:03 AM
I'm not sure why it's that big of a deal.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/news/2003/02/27/wells_hangover_ap/

It's not, the Boston media has an excuse to go bonkers, the national media gobbles up all the low hanging fruit they're leaving around, and MLB thinks they have to pretend to do something because it looks bad.

savafan
10-25-2011, 12:05 AM
It's not, the Boston media has an excuse to go bonkers, the national media gobbles up all the low hanging fruit they're leaving around, and MLB thinks they have to pretend to do something because it looks bad.

Well, it's not like...

http://www.sirbacon.org/4membersonly/docellis.htm


Los Angeles, April 8, 1984- Former Pittsburgh Pirates' pitcher Dock Ellis says he was under the influence of LSD when he pitched a 1970 no-hitter against the San Diego Padres.