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klw
11-08-2011, 08:13 PM
Phillies and Madson are supposedly close to 4yr deal for 44 million with year 5 option at 13 million. Really???? Ryan I have been a closer for a year Madson get 11 mil per for 4 years????? Do the Phillies know they don't have to offer ridiculous contracts to any player they have called Ryan?

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/phillies-madson-nearing-four-year-deal-.html

If this is accurate what does Paps get? Buehrle? Wilson?

Edit: After editing the spelling of Buehrle 3 times I worry about having to type it that often if the Reds signed him. I think I could live with the problem.

savafan
11-08-2011, 09:42 PM
1 million dollars less than the 4 year deal the Reds signed Cordero to 4 years ago. Seems like a steal. ;)

thatcoolguy_22
11-08-2011, 09:53 PM
He picked a great year for his HR/FB% to drop dramatically.

2009 10.3% 77.1IP
2010 8.2% 53.0IP
2011 3.7% 60.2IP
Career 10.4% 630IP

2011 was his career year by far and he still only touched a 1.7 fWAR. ionocoach

blumj
11-08-2011, 11:30 PM
Edit: After editing the spelling of Buehrle 3 times I worry about having to type it that often if the Reds signed him. I think I could live with the problem.

That's what nicknames are for, people whose names are impossible to remember how to spell because they never look right no matter how you spell them.

RedsManRick
11-09-2011, 01:11 AM
If there's such a thing as a reliever deserving $10M+, Madson has to be up there as among the most deserving. He just hasn't gotten the attention of more established "closers".

cincinnati chili
11-09-2011, 02:31 AM
He may not have been a closer for years, but he's been filthy for years. I'm pretty sure the Phils would take him straight up over Papelbon. They know what they're getting from Madson.

redsfandan
11-09-2011, 05:43 AM
I'm a little surprised considering how many free agent closing options there are.

crazybob60
11-09-2011, 12:44 PM
As long as the Reds don't see this and think they have to 'overpay' for a closer again, I am fine with it.

mdccclxix
11-11-2011, 02:20 PM
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/phillies-to-sign-jonathan-papelbon-.html

Papelbon to Phillies.

cinreds21
11-11-2011, 02:32 PM
I know someone with the Phillies and he told me what really happened with Madson. Don't believe everything you read.

mdccclxix
11-11-2011, 02:41 PM
I know someone with the Phillies and he told me what really happened with Madson. Don't believe everything you read.

Care to share?

cinreds21
11-11-2011, 02:42 PM
Care to share?

I don't want to say the entire thing but it just wasn't as close as it seemed.

thatcoolguy_22
11-11-2011, 03:32 PM
I know someone with the Phillies and he told me what really happened with Madson. Don't believe everything you read.

Where was this before it was widely known? :skeptic

mattfeet
11-11-2011, 03:36 PM
4yr $50mil with vesting option to make a 5yr $60mil.

-Matt

cinreds21
11-11-2011, 05:15 PM
Where was this before it was widely known? :skeptic

I just talked to him today.

MattyHo4Life
11-11-2011, 06:06 PM
I'm pretty sure the Phils would take him straight up over Papelbon.

Apparently not! ;) The Phillies were willing to give Pappelbon more than the "reported" deal with Madson.

savafan
11-27-2011, 01:59 PM
I think it would be an interesting scenario if Madson accepted arbitration with the Phillies now that they've offered it after they signed Papelbon. I'd really love to see him do that just to see how it would all play out.

mth123
11-27-2011, 02:03 PM
I think it would be an interesting scenario if Madson accepted arbitration with the Phillies now that they've offered it after they signed Papelbon. I'd really love to see him do that just to see how it would all play out.

I think it would be a bad idea for him. in arb he's a career set-up man who is slated to be a set-up man if he stays in Philly and will be paid as a set-up man by an arbitrator. On the open market, some one will give him a big deal to be a closer.

klw
01-11-2012, 08:24 AM
Bump up though I do not know if I should mock my original comments or not.