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savafan
11-17-2011, 03:06 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20111117&content_id=25991400&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

mattfeet
11-17-2011, 03:52 PM
Im stunned.

VR
11-17-2011, 05:39 PM
Johnny Cueto got one 5th place vote, and finished tied for 10th w/ Grienke and Kimbrel.

PuffyPig
11-17-2011, 08:16 PM
Im stunned.

Why, 1-2-3 was pretty obvious, and the voters saw it that way.

RedsManRick
11-17-2011, 08:30 PM
Why, 1-2-3 was pretty obvious, and the voters saw it that way.

1-2-3 was pretty obvious, but not in that order. Any attempt to control for the contributions of environment and/or his team's defensive contributions quickly puts Halladay in the lead (this is true in both Fangraph's FIP based approach and Baseball-References Runs Allowed based-approach). That said, it's all close enough between those 3 to say that any of them were deserving.

klw
11-17-2011, 08:48 PM
Man, Chad Reineke waz robbbed!

_Sir_Charles_
11-17-2011, 09:05 PM
Johnny Cueto got one 5th place vote, and finished tied for 10th w/ Grienke and Kimbrel.

Where are you seeing this?

VR
11-17-2011, 10:20 PM
Where are you seeing this?

a random google search, don't recall the actual site

PuffyPig
11-18-2011, 09:17 AM
1-2-3 was pretty obvious, but not in that order. Any attempt to control for the contributions of environment and/or his team's defensive contributions quickly puts Halladay in the lead (this is true in both Fangraph's FIP based approach and Baseball-References Runs Allowed based-approach). That said, it's all close enough between those 3 to say that any of them were deserving.

I agree all were deserving, thats's why I was surprised that anyone would be "stunned" with the result. Holliday edged out Kershaw in FIP. Kershaw's 20 win season ensured he would win. That's what the voters have usually look for amoung decent candidates. Like it or not, a pitcher who leads the league in wins, K's and ERA is not going to lose the CYA.

mattfeet
11-18-2011, 10:47 AM
Why, 1-2-3 was pretty obvious, and the voters saw it that way.

I was being facetious.

-Matt

_Sir_Charles_
11-18-2011, 11:21 AM
Clayton Kershaw Dodgers 207
Roy Halladay Phillies 133
Cliff Lee Phillies 90
Ian Kennedy D-backs 76
Cole Hamels Phillies 17
Tim Lincecum Giants 7
Yovani Gallardo Brewers 5
Matt Cain Giants 3
John Axford Brewers 2
Craig Kimbrel Braves 2
Madison Bumgarner Giants 1
Ryan Vogelsong Giants 1

I've seen this list everywhere and I haven't seen Cueto anywhere on any of them. I'd love to be wrong though. I think he deserved a mention at least.

cumberlandreds
11-18-2011, 02:00 PM
Clayton Kershaw Dodgers 207
Roy Halladay Phillies 133
Cliff Lee Phillies 90
Ian Kennedy D-backs 76
Cole Hamels Phillies 17
Tim Lincecum Giants 7
Yovani Gallardo Brewers 5
Matt Cain Giants 3
John Axford Brewers 2
Craig Kimbrel Braves 2
Madison Bumgarner Giants 1
Ryan Vogelsong Giants 1

I've seen this list everywhere and I haven't seen Cueto anywhere on any of them. I'd love to be wrong though. I think he deserved a mention at least.

He missed too much of the season to get noticed. If he can stay healthy all season he will be in the running in the near future.

Roy Tucker
11-18-2011, 02:36 PM
Clayton Kershaw Dodgers 207
Roy Halladay Phillies 133
Cliff Lee Phillies 90
Ian Kennedy D-backs 76
Cole Hamels Phillies 17
Tim Lincecum Giants 7
Yovani Gallardo Brewers 5
Matt Cain Giants 3
John Axford Brewers 2
Craig Kimbrel Braves 2
Madison Bumgarner Giants 1
Ryan Vogelsong Giants 1

I've seen this list everywhere and I haven't seen Cueto anywhere on any of them. I'd love to be wrong though. I think he deserved a mention at least.

The Giants sure did have a darn good starting 4.

VR
11-18-2011, 09:02 PM
I've seen this list everywhere and I haven't seen Cueto anywhere on any of them. I'd love to be wrong though. I think he deserved a mention at least.

My apologies SC, I pulled up a searched site for Cy Young....didn't catch that is was just a random fan site voting.

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/11/9/2549314/2011-sb-nation-nl-cy-young-award

_Sir_Charles_
11-18-2011, 09:09 PM
No biggie bud. It just got me curious is all.