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BillDoran
11-30-2011, 05:46 PM
Moderately big game tonight against a good(ish) Buffalo team.

Early returns show Archie might have been a good hire. Players look loose and confident, the malcontents seem to have vanished, and there now appears to be a semblance of an offense in place.

It's early in the season, and in Archie's tenure, but there's a lot to be excited about. Archie seems to have that Thad Matta touch where players want to play for him and show consistent improvement in their games. Not sure he upped the ante in recruiting, but I think once he develops more connections, he should be all right.

Here's to not just treading water in the A10!

Ohayou
11-30-2011, 06:09 PM
Dillard for President!

BillDoran
11-30-2011, 07:42 PM
Spoke too soon. Getting blitzed in the first half 32-11.

Wrong on the playing with confidence as well; shooting a sizzling 16 percent from the field.

reds1869
12-01-2011, 09:01 AM
That was brutal. Buffalo is a good team but Dayton needs to sweep teams like that aside if they hope to compete in the A-10.

jimbo
12-01-2011, 12:08 PM
That was embarrassing. From the opening tip on the Flyers were out hustled in every aspect of the game. Hard to figure, hope Archie can turn them around fast as they have a tough game Saturday.

BillDoran
12-01-2011, 09:03 PM
Hard to pinpoint what when wrong when they're getting crushed in almost every facet.

I still like the direction Archie has the program going though. I think it'll take a couple of years to get his players in the system, and until then we'll have to watch some spare parts like Parker (just plain bad) and Oliver (looks broken confidence-wise) tough it out.

It does sound like the cavalry may arrive arrive next year in Sanford and Derenbecker.

Boston Red
12-02-2011, 08:49 AM
At Murray State is gonna be super tough, too. I'd be really surprised and impressed if the Flyers pull that one off.

medford
12-02-2011, 10:06 AM
Should be an interesting one at Murray State, how do they bounce back. UD struggled to move the ball vs Fairfield zone defense, but they shredded Minnesota when they ran zone. Then again, they struggled to move the ball against Buffalo's zone, then compounded it by missing some open shots, and even worse getting crushed on the boards.

I think it comes with the territory, like you I already like Archie better than BG, at least offensively. BG's teams always played hard, tough nosed defense and attacked the rim, but man was it a struggle to watch them offensively. UD's been better on the boards than I thought they would be, and the offense is much easier on the eye.

New coach, expect some bumbs, new system, expect some bumps, little depth, expect some bumps. this won't be the first bump in the road, but I'm OK with that as long as I see progress towards an end goal and upward development.

BillDoran
12-04-2011, 03:56 PM
Frustrating, though not particularly surprising loss, to Murray State today. No video (blacked out for that huge Flyer contingent in Bloomington, IN) or radio (can't handle Bucky), so I casually followed a box score.

Looks like we didn't have an answer for Canaan and couldn't overpower them down low. I'd be interested to hear from someone who watched the game why they didn't go to Benson more frequently (currently 7-7 from the field, though with 5 turnovers), as it was my understanding that the Racers didn't have much inside talent or size.

I also can't get past the idea that a BG-helmed team might have gave the Racers a better game; really challenge their guards and then hope to crush them on the boards. With the players on team, I gotta believe we would of stood a better chance.

I've read a number of quotes from Archie on how he thought this team shot the ball well. It's always struck my as curious, knowing who we had coming back, and strikes me as downright farcical after shooting games like this afternoon's.

Onward. Gonna be a challenge Wednesday with Anthony Grant's Crimson Tide coming to town.

Ohayou
12-04-2011, 04:07 PM
Gonna be a challenge Wednesday with Anthony Grant's Crimson Tide coming to town.

I'll be there. ;)

Ohayou
12-07-2011, 04:54 PM
About to leave for the game. Hopefully the players are well rested this time...

cincrazy
12-07-2011, 09:25 PM
Holy crap. UD spanked Alabama tonight. Nice win for the Flyers. Certainly doesn't hurt their resume going forward.

Ohayou
12-07-2011, 11:04 PM
Great game, although I cannot for the life of me understand why the UD student section would feel compelled to start chanting LSU's name.

BillDoran
12-08-2011, 10:05 AM
Well, didn't see that coming.


Great game, although I cannot for the life of me understand why the UD student section would feel compelled to start chanting LSU's name.

Mind games.

Ohayou
12-08-2011, 10:30 AM
Regardless, Alabama is still in the BCS title game and I would never dare think of chanting another college's name (unless it's OSU).

Ohayou
12-08-2011, 05:06 PM
BTW, is CJ really a potential 1st rounder?

http://cdn05.duonox.com/nba_mock_drafts/consensus

I only pay attention to Draft Express' mocks, but I was surprised to find his name here at #30. It can't be too accurate, since they have Patric Young all the way down at #37.

BillDoran
12-11-2011, 08:20 PM
Hey-O! Held off the surprisingly resilient Spartans of University of South Carolina Upstate this afternoon.

The Flyers didn't play particularly poorly on the offensive end, they just allowed USCU to hang around all afternoon. Torrey Craig is a heckuva nice player, especially for a smaller school. He's skilled and gritty, akin to what I always wish I was seeing out of C.J.

The last two games (Bama and today) go to show you just how schizophrenic this team can be. At this point, I don't know if I can be surprised by any outcome this team is apart of.

Ohayou
12-11-2011, 09:14 PM
At least that loss at Murray State doesn't look as bad now.

Boston Red
12-13-2011, 12:15 AM
At least that loss at Murray State doesn't look as bad now.

It never looked bad to anyone who knows college basketball.

Ohayou
12-19-2011, 11:40 AM
Dayton ranks #57 (one spot ahead of Cincy) on Jay Bilas' Top 68:


Very inconsistent, but proven to play well against good teams.

Ohayou
12-29-2011, 02:06 AM
Chris Wright plays for the Golden State Warriors now? I did not know that.

jimbo
12-29-2011, 11:04 AM
Chris Wright plays for the Golden State Warriors now? I did not know that.

He made their roster but I don't think he's actually dressed for a game yet. The two games I saw he was in street clothes sitting behind the bench. With Curry injured though, his chance may finally come.

Reds/Flyers Fan
12-29-2011, 12:51 PM
He made their roster but I don't think he's actually dressed for a game yet. The two games I saw he was in street clothes sitting behind the bench. With Curry injured though, his chance may finally come.

He dressed last night.

Tomorrow's game vs. Ole Miss is gigantic. The Arena should be rocking ...

jimbo
12-29-2011, 01:00 PM
He dressed last night.

Tomorrow's game vs. Ole Miss is gigantic. The Arena should be rocking ...

Yeah, just caught that. I've never been an NBA fan, but am a Warriors fan now.

The Flyers could really use a big win going into conference play. The first three games in conference play are going to be tough.

Reds/Flyers Fan
01-01-2012, 02:31 AM
Josh Benson suffered a torn ACL in the game vs. Ole Miss on Friday night; he's out for the year.

This is a huge blow to an already-thin Flyers team. Good luck in your recovery Josh!

gilpdawg
01-02-2012, 09:01 AM
Was just checking out some college hoops stuff, and noticed that Dayton is up to 35 in the RPI, and the A-10 is quite strong this year. Could they be a 3 or 4 bid conference this year? I don't follow the conference as much as some of you guys on here, I'm a Big Ten guy.

Ohayou
01-04-2012, 05:35 PM
Conference play begins tonight with the 12-2 Billikens. Hopefully CJ has a monster night. I'll be there rooting for him.

BillDoran
01-04-2012, 11:05 PM
Big win tonight for the Flyers in their first game without Josh Benson, against a solid St. Louis team no less. Big night from KD and solid nights from nearly everyone who stepped onto the floor.

They did shoot 50% from downtown and dominated (40-27) a really poor rebounding Billiken team on the glass.

Excelsior, Archie! :beerme:

Ohayou
01-05-2012, 12:16 AM
I love UD Arena. Simply one of the best atmospheres in all of college basketball.


Big night from KD and solid nights from nearly everyone who stepped onto the floor.

Dillard played well, but was reckless at times. He made some truly awful passes. Johnson did next to nothing.

dabvu2498
01-05-2012, 12:41 AM
I saw your man Archie at this game last night: http://www.middletownjournal.com/middletown-sports/high-school-sports/franklin-hands-springboro-first-loss-1307380.html

Presumably, checking out the Morgan kid from Springboro. I guess they'll need a replacement for Kavanaugh. :)

But the kid to watch is the frosh at Franklin. He's going to be special.

BillDoran
01-05-2012, 06:53 PM
I saw your man Archie at this game last night: http://www.middletownjournal.com/middletown-sports/high-school-sports/franklin-hands-springboro-first-loss-1307380.html

Presumably, checking out the Morgan kid from Springboro. I guess they'll need a replacement for Kavanaugh. :)

But the kid to watch is the frosh at Franklin. He's going to be special.

Yeah, he was likely there to check out both Maverick Morgan and Luke Kennard. Archie's got offers out to both. Sounds like Kennard will probably go bigger though. Early talk is UK.

Morgan would be a great get for UD as well.

BillDoran
01-05-2012, 06:56 PM
Dillard played well, but was reckless at times. He made some truly awful passes. Johnson did next to nothing.

Agreed. He tried to do too much, because, well, he's tasked with doing too much. With Benson out, there isn't anyone else on the roster who can consistently create offense.

We were going wherever KD takes us prior to Benson's injury. That's doubly so now.

Might be a bumpy ride, but looks like, save Temple, the A10 will be wide open.

Reds/Flyers Fan
01-05-2012, 08:05 PM
Yeah, he was likely there to check out both Maverick Morgan and Luke Kennard. Archie's got offers out to both. Sounds like Kennard will probably go bigger though. Early talk is UK.

Morgan would be a great get for UD as well.

Look for him to transfer out of Franklin for next year - possibly Alter. And if that happens, well, we all know the Alter-to-UD pipeline runs strong. Here's hoping ...

Reds/Flyers Fan
01-05-2012, 08:08 PM
I love UD Arena. Simply one of the best atmospheres in all of college basketball.




Top 5, up there with Rupp Arena, Allen Fieldhouse, the Palestra and Cameron. Old St. Johns Arena at OSU was pretty awesome too; it's a shame what it was replaced with.

Ohayou
01-05-2012, 08:51 PM
I should also mention that I saw some guy wearing a Chris Wright Golden State Warriors jersey. Kudos to him. :thumbup:

dabvu2498
01-05-2012, 10:41 PM
Yeah, he was likely there to check out both Maverick Morgan and Luke Kennard. Archie's got offers out to both. Sounds like Kennard will probably go bigger though. Early talk is UK.

Morgan would be a great get for UD as well.

I found it interesting that Archie was sending a text or otherwise pounding on his phone while Morgan was shooting a FT drectly infront of him. (Miller was standing along the baseline as there were no seats to be had anywhere.)

As for Kennard, I seriously doubt he's UK material. I know it's tough to judge a frosh, but the athleticism just isn't there.

Also, FYI, Kennard's dad and Franklin's coach are very close friends. Their families live about 100 yards down the street from each other. Kennard's dad is a Franklin guy, Bales is a Franklin guy. I doubt that Kennard goes anywhere so long as Bales stays HC at Franklin. The kid will get as many big-time offers at Franklin as he would anywhere else. (See: Payne, Adrien.)

Ohayou
01-06-2012, 06:15 PM
Dayton made the front page of ESPN. :)

jimbo
01-07-2012, 12:43 PM
I should also mention that I saw some guy wearing a Chris Wright Golden State Warriors jersey. Kudos to him. :thumbup:

Here's Wright forcing Kobe into an air ball during last night's game.

http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/getty/b9/fullj.4c33d6c4d5c93756d33c974408564e54/4c33d6c4d5c93756d33c974408564e54-getty-136528544.jpg

BillDoran
01-07-2012, 07:58 PM
No way Dayton should be playing with the likes of Temple, trap game or not.

Archie F'n Miller.

Ohayou
01-07-2012, 08:13 PM
At least Dayton did something right. :clap:

Ohayou
01-09-2012, 01:12 PM
Dayton moves up to 37th in the new coaches poll, and is Andy Katz's Team of the Week:

http://espn.go.com/ncb/notebook/_/page/notebookweeklywatch1205/week-5

They also went from nothing to a 9th seed in Lunardi's tournament bracket.

Ohayou
01-11-2012, 12:23 PM
Oy vey! CJ is out tonight with concussion-like symptoms.

BillDoran
01-11-2012, 09:47 PM
Tough loss to Bona in Olean, New York tonight. The Flyers only had 8 scholarship players and resorted to dressing a practice player.

They fought valiantly in the first half (while shooting 50% from 3), but couldn't hold off Andrew Nicholson (30 points, 13 boards, and 6 blocks) and company in the second half.

Still like what I see from Archie's troops. He's got them playing above their heads right now. Across the board, you can see the players' confidence levels rising as the season progresses. Gavrillovic, in particular, has made huge strides.

Saturday, the Explorers of LaSalle come to the Dayton Decibel Dungeon.

Reds/Flyers Fan
01-20-2012, 01:54 PM
Who's all going to the game on Saturday? I'll be there ... Section 404 ... wearing red and being loud (with some select insults directed toward the eggsavier gangsta thugs).

Ohayou
01-21-2012, 03:18 PM
Man, I wish I could have been there. Kavanaugh has been playing like a BOSS lately.

jimbo
01-21-2012, 03:20 PM
That was simply beautiful!!!

reds1869
01-21-2012, 03:26 PM
Congrats on a nice win. You guys have something in Archie.

Ohayou
01-21-2012, 07:38 PM
Jon Gruden Addresses The Dayton Flyers - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jsdu6o98ws)

Gruden is the man.

Reds/Flyers Fan
01-23-2012, 11:10 AM
Huge games from Kav, KD and PW ... and a nice game from Ralph Hill too. Keep the train rolling!

Ohayou
01-28-2012, 11:04 PM
No comment.

Reds/Flyers Fan
02-26-2012, 12:30 PM
Huge win by the Flyers last night, absolutely throttling UMass 76-43. Quite frankly, UMass wanted nothing to do with playing in front of that UD crowd; they were rattled from the time they came out the tunnel.

BillDoran
02-27-2012, 12:36 PM
If they can close the regular season with two W's, make a little noise in the conference tournament, they have an outside chance at a NCAA bid. Didn't think that was plausible earlier in the season.

I really like the direction Archie has the program going. Two big transfers and a nice recruiting class with some size coming in next year to pair with Dillard, Kavanaugh, and Benson. Should be pretty damn competitive

Reds/Flyers Fan
02-27-2012, 12:42 PM
Joe Lunardi has them in his "Next Four Out" group, which is, frankly, astonishing considering how this season has gone (Benson's ACL, new coach/system, what they lost from last year, mid-season slide, etc.).

A couple more wins and they "could" be safely in.

And how cool would it be if the Flyers were one of the First Four teams at UD Arena. I wouldn't want to be any of the other teams there if that's the case. The home-court advantage would be mind-blowing.

BillDoran
02-29-2012, 09:11 PM
And you can more or less flush the season. Took a tough loss at Richmond tonight. Hard to figure this one out by looking at the box score. It looks fairly even across the board. The refs didn't help the cause (11 FTs vs. 25), but I don't think they determined the outcome.

It's going to hurt losing C.J. next year. He's closed the season on a tear, averaging just under 20 over the last 6 games. Parker, for all his effort, and Fabrizius, for his occasional spark, should be fairly replaceable. Not sure what to think about Paul Willie.

Lookout NIT!

Reds/Flyers Fan
03-01-2012, 12:21 PM
Chris Johnson can't be the only one who shows up. They can't win that way. I'm sorry, but I haven't anticipated saying goodbye on senior day more than I do Luke Fabrizius. I'm not sure how much longer I can watch him try to play defense.

Ohayou
03-05-2012, 07:00 PM
Congrats to the women's team for winning the A-10 championship and making their third consecutive tourney appearance.

Ohayou
03-09-2012, 11:19 PM
Those last few possessions were a joke. Back-to-back-to-back shot clock violations? It's almost like BG was coaching again.

Reds/Flyers Fan
03-10-2012, 02:40 AM
I despise eggsavier and their thug players. I can't wait to root for them to lose to whoever in the tournament.

Go Flyers! Go Bearcats!

reds1869
03-10-2012, 06:15 PM
I despise eggsavier and their thug players. I can't wait to root for them to lose to whoever in the tournament.

Go Flyers! Go Bearcats!

Especially relevant portion of post highlighted for emphasis.

Ohayou
03-13-2012, 09:41 PM
I feel bad for the seniors having to play their last game as a Flyer on the road and not back in Dayton in front of their home crowd.

I'm gonna miss CJ. :(

BillDoran
03-13-2012, 11:24 PM
That was dreadful.

I've seen better defense played at all-star games.

BillDoran
03-18-2012, 08:08 PM
A noteworthy quote from Archie via today's Dayton Daily Worker,

“Vee to me is the most talented, gifted scorer on our team,” Miller said.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-sports/university-of-dayton-flyers/ud-hopes-to-build-around-dillard-next-year-1345668.html

Last time Archie made such a bold claim, he was touting Dillard as one of the best PGs in the A10. Here's hoping he's as on the mark with this observation.

Ohayou
10-27-2012, 12:31 AM
Kavanaugh is lucky he got off with just expulsion.

Ohayou
10-31-2012, 09:12 PM
Brian Roberts plays for the Hornets now? Hurrah!

Ohayou
12-19-2012, 09:09 PM
Dayton, Dayton, Dayton...

Why am I not surprised?

Boston Red
12-20-2012, 11:25 AM
They needed that game last night. Murray State is going to be a huge challenge on Saturday. They're not as good as last year, but Canaan is still there, and they're still 9-1.

Ohayou
12-20-2012, 11:49 AM
Watch, they'll totally blow out Murray State, too. And I'll be shaking my head. It happens almost every year.

jimbo
12-20-2012, 01:43 PM
They're not going to blow out anyone if Kevin Dillard isn't playing, and judging by how he walked off the court last night in pain, I doubt he will be Saturday.

Having said that, you simply can't expect to beat solid teams like Illinois St. when you give up 74 points to them on your home court.

Ohayou
12-22-2012, 04:12 PM
See? SEE?! :laugh:

jimbo
12-22-2012, 04:16 PM
See? SEE?! :laugh:

Well called sir!! :thumbup:

Dillard put up one the guttiest performances in the second half that I have seen in a long time. It was obvious his back was still hurting yet he basically took over the game in the last 10 minutes.

As goes Dillard, as go the Flyers. When he is on top of his game, he makes everyone around him better.

reds1869
12-22-2012, 04:18 PM
Good news: you guys will probably end the Jimmy Carter streak this year.

jimbo
12-22-2012, 04:27 PM
Good news: you guys will probably end the Jimmy Carter streak this year.

I certainly hope so, as a loss to xavier this year will be considered a "bad" loss to the NCAA committee and an RPI killer.

reds1869
12-22-2012, 04:29 PM
I certainly hope so, as a loss to xavier this year will be considered a "bad" loss to the NCAA committee and an RPI killer.

If you'd like we'll loan you Jeff Robinson for the A-10 schedule. He doesn't seem to show up for our games anyway. ;)

Reds/Flyers Fan
12-28-2012, 02:08 PM
Anyone know any local bars that carry the Pac12 Network, which is carrying the Dayton/USC game on Sunday?

gilpdawg
12-29-2012, 07:54 PM
Anyone know any local bars that carry the Pac12 Network, which is carrying the Dayton/USC game on Sunday?

Probably any bar with Directv, which is pretty much any sports bar.