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wvreds
12-17-2011, 04:04 PM
C Trent said Walt said he isnt done what do you guys think is going to go down next?

nmculbreth
12-17-2011, 04:14 PM
My next move would be adding Seth Smith from Colorado, assuming the price is right.

He kills RHPs (career .880 OPS) and would be a nice platoon player in LF / LH bat off of the bench.

sdwagers
12-17-2011, 10:16 PM
LF and Closer need attention by most accounts ( I like Heisey in LF/CF)

Walt mentioned that discussions might fire up as the closer market has changed (CoCo could return ?)

mikemo14
12-18-2011, 12:59 AM
I would love to see Madson signed to a 3 yr 21 M deal first.

Followed by a vet utility guy on the cheap to back up Cozart.
Jack Wilson ? Craig Counsell O Vizquel?

Still need that one righty bat in the 4 hole in between Votto and Bruce. not sure who that could be.

Kubel? How about taking a cheap flyer on Magglio Ordonez.

This time a year ago people were poking fun at the cards for putting Berkmann in RF. Maybe Ordonez could be that 20HR 90RBI guy for us.

powersackers
12-18-2011, 01:21 AM
I would love to see Madson signed to a 3 yr 21 M deal first.

Followed by a vet utility guy on the cheap to back up Cozart.
Jack Wilson ? Craig Counsell O Vizquel?

Still need that one righty bat in the 4 hole in between Votto and Bruce. not sure who that could be.

Kubel? How about taking a cheap flyer on Magglio Ordonez.

This time a year ago people were poking fun at the cards for putting Berkmann in RF. Maybe Ordonez could be that 20HR 90RBI guy for us.

This all sounds plausible. Good thoughts. But Kubel and Smith are lefty, I'd skip them.

ED44
12-18-2011, 01:51 AM
Theriot will be here to backup at the IF spots (not that I want him).

I think CoCo comes back for 2 years around 10 million.

Would we make a splash and try to sign Beltran or Yoenis Cespedes? Not sure Beltran is realistic (although I wish he was), but Cespedes could be possible.

Or what if the Reds decided that Chapman wasn't going to be able to be stretched to a TOR type pitcher before his contract ends? Could they sell high on him? Freeing up more $$$ and bringing back a cost controlled LF in the process? Miami seems like a good fit...big draw for the area. Would Logan Morrison + some prospects with high ceilings in low ball be enough in return? It would replentish the farm system a bit & allow him to look for another starter with the excess he still has at is disposal (maybe Jurrjens or Gonzalez?). Or he could just sit on the $$$ (sign an Oswalt for a year) then use the money saved to try and extend Votto?

Lots of possibilities & I definitely don't think we are done yet!

DGullett35
12-18-2011, 02:55 AM
Walt says hes got deals on the front and back burner. Seemed like he thinks were going after more pitching(Saunders???). I think we bring back CoCo and sign a viable right handed bat that can play in the OF. If he does go after more starting pitching who is the odd man out? Bailey? Because Leake and Arroyo are not going anywhere. Mabey we package Bailey and Stubbs for another starter and RH OF.

fewfirstchoice
12-18-2011, 04:49 PM
Bailey or Leake(I prefer Bailey here), Heisey, Sappelt, Lotzkar, and Crappe to the White Sox

and

Floyd, Quentin, and cash to Cincy

That gives the Reds this.
1) Cueto
2) Latos
3) Floyd
4) Leake or Bailey
5) Arroyo

C- Mesaroco
1B- Votto
2B- Phillips
SS- Cozart
3B- Rolen
LF- Quentin
CF- Stubbs
RF- Bruce

1) Phillips
2) Cozart
3) Votto
4) Quentin
5) Bruce
6) Rolen
7) Mesaroco
8) Stubbs


Then sign Coco to a 2 year 10 million deal.

That would be a solid team and should be next.

Outlaw133
12-18-2011, 08:39 PM
I would love to see Madson signed to a 3 yr 21 M deal first.

Followed by a vet utility guy on the cheap to back up Cozart.
Jack Wilson ? Craig Counsell O Vizquel?

Still need that one righty bat in the 4 hole in between Votto and Bruce. not sure who that could be.

Kubel? How about taking a cheap flyer on Magglio Ordonez.

This time a year ago people were poking fun at the cards for putting Berkmann in RF. Maybe Ordonez could be that 20HR 90RBI guy for us.

We've got a cheap veteran utility guy in Cairo. I'd rather keep Janish than add any that who listed.

BEETTLEBUG
12-18-2011, 09:25 PM
What does the thought of Ryan Ludwick in LF in 2012. Would that be OK?

Outlaw133
12-18-2011, 09:31 PM
What does the thought of Ryan Ludwick in LF in 2012. Would that be OK?

The thought is perfectly okay.But how would acting on that thought and acquiring Ludwick improve the Reds?

BEETTLEBUG
12-18-2011, 09:53 PM
No thought just wanting to know if it was in anybodies thinking.

nmculbreth
12-18-2011, 10:07 PM
No thought just wanting to know if it was in anybodies thinking.

Pass. Ludwick isn't an upgrade over what we've got in Heisey / Sappelt.

FireDusty
12-18-2011, 10:14 PM
C Trent said Walt said he isnt done what do you guys think is going to go down next?

Hamilton, Soto, and any other minor leaguer with talent for a closer I guess.

By the time Walt is done, we will be.

The Walt Jockerty - Dusty Baker era will go down as the biggest missed opportunity in the history of the franchise.

Horrible leadership at the major league level.

FireDusty
12-18-2011, 10:15 PM
My next move would be adding Seth Smith from Colorado, assuming the price is right.

He kills RHPs (career .880 OPS) and would be a nice platoon player in LF / LH bat off of the bench.Hell....why would we worry about price now?

RedsFan_26
12-18-2011, 11:50 PM
Hamilton, Soto, and any other minor leaguer with talent for a closer I guess.

By the time Walt is done, we will be.

The Walt Jockerty - Dusty Baker era will go down as the biggest missed opportunity in the history of the franchise.

Horrible leadership at the major league level.

You are horribly mislead and uneducated. Please for your own sake quit talking, you are making a fool out of yourself.

tomred
12-19-2011, 02:26 AM
I guess firedusty was not around in the 80s with such great players like Paul Householder and Alex Trevino now that was some good teams back then:laugh:

FireDusty
12-19-2011, 09:07 AM
You are horribly mislead and uneducated. Please for your own sake quit talking, you are making a fool out of yourself.

I have forgotten more about baseball than you will ever know.

FireDusty
12-19-2011, 09:08 AM
I guess firedusty was not around in the 80s with such great players like Paul Householder and Alex Trevino now that was some good teams back then:laugh:Comparing Paul Householder & Alex Trevino to what we just gave up embarrases you.

Stop while you are behind.

RedsFan_26
12-19-2011, 02:58 PM
I have forgotten more about baseball than you will ever know.

You obviously do not know anything about baseball, and i could find 60 members on this board who would agree. You are making a fool out of yourself. You have also live for 30 more years than me, and i would not be caught dead talking to other Reds fans saying the ignorant and insensible comments that you are saying.

Get a clue, or get off.

FireDusty
12-19-2011, 03:00 PM
You obviously do not know anything about baseball, and i could find 60 members on this board who would agree. You are making a fool out of yourself. You have also live for 30 more years than me, and i would not be caught dead talking to other Reds fans saying the ignorant and insensible comments that you are saying.

Get a clue, or get off.
Thanks for your opinion. :thumbup:

RedsFan_26
12-19-2011, 03:04 PM
Thanks for your opinion. :thumbup:

"Never argue with a fool, out lookers may not be able to tell the difference."

dMaus14
12-21-2011, 03:52 AM
I'd like to look I to acquiring Kazmir, Harden and Cook. Obviously Kazmir would be a minor league deal; Harden I feel would be a perfect long relief 6th starter type; Cook could also be a 5-6th starter. All come cheap!

I'd take a chance on JD Drew as a bench, extra outfielder. I'd send Janish to AAA and sign Theriot as a backup infielder.