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webbbj
12-22-2011, 11:42 PM
This Reds team is the prohibitive favorite to win the central and i can say w/o a shadow of a doubt say that this reds team will win the central no doubt about it.

time to stop being the sleeper and walk around w/ that swagger that says "were better than everyone else and not afraid to show it"

Lets kick some ass and dominate this division.

AintlifeGrande
12-22-2011, 11:58 PM
LF?,CL?

Nathan
12-23-2011, 01:08 AM
LF?,CL?

LF = Heisey
CL= Overrated

I'm really, really, really liking this team, compared to the rest of the NLC. Even with Beltran signing with the Cardinals.

R_Webb18
12-23-2011, 01:21 AM
i really think the reds just had bad luck last year. yes most won't wanna hear that and im not saying it was all bad luck but part of it was.

bigredmechanism
12-23-2011, 01:41 AM
LF = Heisey
CL= Overrated

I'm really, really, really liking this team, compared to the rest of the NLC. Even with Beltran signing with the Cardinals.

I like the team too, but we're far from a lock to win the central. The Cardinals probably still have a better pitching staff than us, and have a good lineup to boot. Losing Albert is tough, but they are getting back Wainwright and just added Beltran. It won't be easy, but we have a shot.

Crumbley
12-23-2011, 05:31 AM
Remember the "duh, winning!" shirts they were parading around in early last season? Let's get to .500 before we worry about swagger.

mroby85
12-23-2011, 12:15 PM
Remember the "duh, winning!" shirts they were parading around in early last season? Let's get to .500 before we worry about swagger.

X2, I often like to replace the term swagger with ignorant arrogance. There are very few teams in the world that deserve to have swagger and the Reds arent one of them.

brm7675
12-23-2011, 01:29 PM
I think the Reds have improved their team with little loss of talent that would have had an impact over the next 2-3 years. Yonder is the only player we have traded whom might have had a strong impact on the major league roster in 2012/13 or 14. We add a possible dominate SP at little cost and add a dominate bullpen guy. The Cards have new mag't, a pitcher coming off TJ and some aging players in very key positions. Brewers are losing their no. 1 guy to a 50 game suspension possibly and their no. 2 guy to FA so who knows with them...

brad1176
12-23-2011, 01:33 PM
I agree brm, but this deal for Marshall gave up too many trade chips. I realize that trading within the division is always going to require an overpay to some extent, but I think it could have been done without Sappelt in it, and we could have used him in another trade.

brm7675
12-23-2011, 01:44 PM
How many teams are going to want a light hitting 4th OF?

brad1176
12-23-2011, 01:46 PM
Apparently the Cubs did...but my point is you could use him in another package.

Ohayou
12-23-2011, 01:46 PM
Remember the "duh, winning!" shirts they were parading around in early last season? Let's get to .500 before we worry about swagger.

Wasn't that the Indians?

dMaus14
12-23-2011, 01:55 PM
The Cubs now have: Sappelt, Soriano, Byrd, Campana, DeJesus, Johnson, Szczur and Jackson for the outfield! I read on MLBTR last night that the Cubs are in full rebuild mode so that would mean atleast Byrd is on the move.

Tuff Nut
12-23-2011, 02:09 PM
The Cubs now have: Sappelt, Soriano, Byrd, Campana, DeJesus, Johnson, Szczur and Jackson for the outfield! I read on MLBTR last night that the Cubs are in full rebuild mode so that would mean atleast Byrd is on the move.
Isn't Colvin still in their organization? I know his BA was like .088 at one point, but they kept throwing him out there.

texasdave
12-23-2011, 02:10 PM
Isn't Colvin still in their organization? I know his BA was like .088 at one point, but they kept throwing him out there.

I believe Colvin is in Colorado now.

Tuff Nut
12-23-2011, 02:14 PM
I believe Colvin is in Colorado now.Thanks. Didn't see him on their roster, just didn't know if he'd been optioned or traded.