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blumj
01-05-2012, 09:07 AM
The Bengals probably need their own thread, but NO provided a nice image to kickoff a more all-purpose one.

http://a.yfrog.com/img875/2836/8eey.jpg

Stray
01-05-2012, 02:23 PM
The Lions/Saints game will be fun to watch. I think Detroit will put a lotta points on the board, but there's no stopping Brees & co in that dome. I think it'll be a 45-38 game or something close to it.

Denver's D is probably good enough to make their game ugly, which will keep them in it, but I don't think Tebow can move the ball against Pittsburgh. If it's close and Tebow gets a chance late in the 4th quarter anything can happen though.

Giants and Falcons will probably be close, but NYG seems to be getting it going just in time for a playoff run. Although I'm guessing the bye seeds in the NFC would like to see the Giants get knocked out on wildcard weekend.

Bengals and Texans...I'm a homer, who dey! Bengals 24 Texans 14

blumj
01-05-2012, 08:21 PM
I give Denver a decent chance if Roethlisberger really did have a setback with that ankle, because he looked just awful in that SF game right after he first hurt it. Of course, Tebow looks awful most of the time, but they're used to dealing with that.

Reds/Flyers Fan
01-05-2012, 09:10 PM
Denver beating the loathsome Stealers would be the second-best thing to a Bengals win this weekend. It would immediately stamp 2012 as a great year only eight days in!

bucksfan2
01-06-2012, 09:59 AM
The most competitive game will be the Bengals Texans.
The least competitive game will be the Steelers Broncos.
The game with the most interest will be the Saints and Lions.
The game with the most media generated interest will be the Giants Falcons.

Reds/Flyers Fan
01-06-2012, 06:08 PM
The most competitive game will be the Bengals Texans.
The least competitive game will be the Steelers Broncos.
The game with the most interest will be the Saints and Lions.
The game with the most media generated interest will be the Giants Falcons.

I'm not so sure about that. With Mendenhall out, Roethlisburger hobbled and the altitide, Denver's very good defense may be able to wreak some havoc.

And I think the Saints absolutely steamroll the Lions. (Which means, of course, an OT nailbiter.)

Razor Shines
01-07-2012, 01:37 AM
I'm not so sure about that. With Mendenhall out, Roethlisburger hobbled and the altitide, Denver's very good defense may be able to wreak some havoc.

And I think the Saints absolutely steamroll the Lions. (Which means, of course, an OT nailbiter.)

I agree on both points. Saints have an amazing O line.


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Eric_the_Red
01-07-2012, 10:34 AM
My picks for this weekend:
Texans
Saints
Falcons
Steelers

I could see the two early games going either way, and with all of the hype the Saints seems to be getting I can envision a scenario where the Lions win if they can keep it close. I don't see how the Broncos beat the Steelers unfortunately, even with Mendenhall and Clark out and Ben hobbled. The Steelers should win that game with 10 points scored.

WVRed
01-07-2012, 11:52 AM
I think the Broncos pull the upset. Call me crazy but this is the kind of game a team like the Steelers can overlook. I seem to remember a Seahawks team that got into the playoffs last year with a losing record that was hosting the defending Super Bowl champion Saints last season and everybody predicted a Saints blowout.

Of course, I guess it depends on which Tim Tebow shows up.

Newport Red
01-07-2012, 01:07 PM
The most competitive game will be the Bengals Texans.
The least competitive game will be the Steelers Broncos.
The game with the most interest will be the Saints and Lions.
The game with the most media generated interest will be the Giants Falcons.

I think the Falcons/Giants game is over by halftime.

Razor Shines
01-08-2012, 04:34 PM
Wow. Eli is playing qb as well as anyone right now.


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757690
01-08-2012, 06:03 PM
Jesus vs The Rapist

Ought to be an interesting game ;)

savafan
01-08-2012, 06:42 PM
Tebow is having the best game of his life at the best time possible.

Stray
01-08-2012, 06:47 PM
Haha I love watching Tebow and the Broncos. Just something about him.

Mutaman
01-08-2012, 07:12 PM
Haha I love watching Tebow and the Broncos. Just something about him.

I'm sure you spent a lot of time watching him in his last three games.

Stray
01-08-2012, 07:22 PM
I'm sure you spent a lot of time watching him in his last three games.

He had some bad games, he's not a great QB...yada yada yada. I get it.

That team has bought into him as a leader though, and it shows in a lot of ways. They're fun to watch, especially when they're beating the Steelers.

traderumor
01-08-2012, 07:26 PM
love love love seeing the steelers looking so bad in that 2nd qtr

KoryMac5
01-08-2012, 07:56 PM
Quick whistle goes against the Broncos on backwards pass that Wallace fumbled away.

Stray
01-08-2012, 07:57 PM
A fortunate whistle from a referee ends up in a likely Steelers touchdown drive. Big shock there.

Scrap Irony
01-08-2012, 08:01 PM
Broncos have had a hard time today with the officiating. All the big calls that could be made against them have been. The "decision" on the incomplete pass/ backward pass was asinine. That's where Pittsburgh's last TD came from-- that's also points on the board for Denver that never happened.

I hate both teams, so I don't have a dog in this fight, but it's strange to see the home team get continuously hosed.

Stray
01-08-2012, 08:36 PM
This is gonna be a good finish. That ball was out before his knee was down...Marvin-esque challenge there.

Stray
01-08-2012, 08:44 PM
All tied up. Can Tebow pull another game winning drive? That place will go bananas if he does.

top6
01-08-2012, 08:53 PM
would be interesting to see if this goes to overtime. remember, there are new overtime rules for the playoffs now.

Stray
01-08-2012, 09:05 PM
Oh wow I forgot about those rule changes.

WMR
01-08-2012, 09:07 PM
HOLY ISH

Stray
01-08-2012, 09:07 PM
Oh my god

WMR
01-08-2012, 09:07 PM
GOD REALLY IS A TEBOW FAN :lol:

WMR
01-08-2012, 09:10 PM
316 passing yards for the Chosen One

Stray
01-08-2012, 09:10 PM
What a great game, wow. That was unbelievable.

blumj
01-08-2012, 09:12 PM
Kind of disappointed we didn't get a chance to see how the new overtime rules work. Super entertaining game, though.

Redsfan320
01-08-2012, 09:14 PM
TEBOW! Yeah! At least somebody can beat the Steelers...

320

chicoruiz
01-08-2012, 09:14 PM
Three quick notes:

1. At least we Bengals fans can say we made it as far as the Steelers did.

2. John Elway and Gary Busey must share the same orthodontist.

3. Did you notice how freaking STEEP the upper deck in the Denver stadium is? I'd be afraid if I slipped up there I'd roll right down onto the field...

MWM
01-08-2012, 09:14 PM
The Steelers losing to an average team makes the weekend a little better, although I was really close to starting to pull for the Steelers. Took the fam to a local sports bar (a very family friendly one) during the second half of the game. I live in Jax, so the Tebow-mania was out in full force. We may have found the most annoying fans of all (excepting Cubs fans of course), the Tebow fans. :evil:

The happiest person out there right now is Tom Brady, and probably Bill Belichek.

kaldaniels
01-08-2012, 09:17 PM
Kind of disappointed we didn't get a chance to see how the new overtime rules work. Super entertaining game, though.

I wouldn't say they didn't work. I'd say Pitt didn't run the proper defense for the situation. No safetys deep?

savafan
01-08-2012, 09:19 PM
I can't believe what I saw

kaldaniels
01-08-2012, 09:23 PM
An just an aside. Polamalu is a HOF safety. But he is over aggressive and often makes his living guessing plays. It sure is nice to see an offense make him look foolish. (The whole game really, not referring to the last play)

blumj
01-08-2012, 09:24 PM
I wouldn't say they didn't work. I'd say Pitt didn't run the proper defense for the situation. No safetys deep?
I just meant it still only took one possession, same as the regular overtime rules. I was hoping for confusion of some sort.

MWM
01-08-2012, 09:25 PM
Is it me or do the Steelers almost always get favorable officiating. They definitely go it today. Can't believe they missed that backwards pass, that one was blatant. Also hard to believe they missed that blatant facemask on the Broncos drive before the Steelers got the ball back late in the 4th and tied it up.

TeamSelig
01-08-2012, 09:26 PM
Tim Tebow might not be an amazing/elite Quarterback, but he sure is special.

kaldaniels
01-08-2012, 09:29 PM
Is it me or do the Steelers almost always get favorable officiating. They definitely go it today. Can't believe they missed that backwards pass, that one was blatant. Also hard to believe they missed that blatant facemask on the Broncos drive before the Steelers got the ball back late in the 4th and tied it up.

It is in the NFLs best interests, as things stand today, for the Steelers to be successful on the field. That is a fact. The rest of the story, if there is one, may never be known.

blumj
01-08-2012, 09:30 PM
Tim Tebow might not be an amazing/elite Quarterback, but he sure is special.
There's never a dull moment, he's either making fantastic plays or he's missing in fantastic ways, there's no boring mediocrity in between.

savafan
01-08-2012, 09:32 PM
Tim Tebow might not be an amazing/elite Quarterback, but he sure is special.

I was looking all over for the like button before I realized that I was on Redszone.

Ohayou
01-08-2012, 09:36 PM
10 of 21 for 316 yards. Wait a minute...

http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2009/john_316/john_316_01.jpg

OH SH--

Roy Tucker
01-08-2012, 09:41 PM
When the Steelers got the ball back with about a minute and half left and started moving it, I would have bet large sum they were going to win.

Big win for Denver.

HotCorner
01-08-2012, 10:33 PM
I think the Broncos pull the upset. Call me crazy but this is the kind of game a team like the Steelers can overlook. I seem to remember a Seahawks team that got into the playoffs last year with a losing record that was hosting the defending Super Bowl champion Saints last season and everybody predicted a Saints blowout.

Of course, I guess it depends on which Tim Tebow shows up.

Great call!

WMR
01-08-2012, 10:35 PM
http://i.qkme.me/35bdoj.jpg

HeatherC1212
01-08-2012, 11:32 PM
Wow! What a crazy upset! I couldn't watch but I can't wait to see the highlights later tonight. Go Denver! :D

KronoRed
01-08-2012, 11:56 PM
http://i.imgur.com/RpnQA.jpg

savafan
01-09-2012, 12:08 AM
10 of 21 for 316 yards. Wait a minute...

http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2009/john_316/john_316_01.jpg

OH SH--

31.6 yards per completion.

Jefferson24
01-09-2012, 12:11 AM
As a long time Broncos fan I am happy tonight!

Slyder
01-09-2012, 09:42 AM
With Oakland out my routing interest is as follows on the AFC side:
1 Houston (Love the story with Johnson and the team finally making the playoffs)
2 Baltimore (Still respect what Baltimore did to Oakland in the Black Hole the year they won)
3 Denver (Tebow is a great story but he is still a Donk and thus I cannot bring myself to cheer for anything having to do with Elway)
4 New England (See above minus the feel goodness of Tebow times 100, I respect NOTHING about that organization and the precieved hand outs the NFL has given them).

Cincinnati would have been #2, Pittsburgh would have been tied with Denver.

traderumor
01-09-2012, 10:46 AM
Still chuckling a little bit this morning at the mighty Squealers early exit, giving up 30 points to the Tebows. You have to think the loss of their starting safety had to have an impact on the game considering it was big pass plays that was their demise.

With that said, getting a home game because you won an inferior divisional title needs fixed. Seeding in all professional leagues who insist on divisional play should be based on overall record, not the good fortune of sliding into the playoffs with an 8-8 record in a division no one wants to win. Wildcards help to even out some inequities caused by divisional play. Now, go the next step and base seeding on record, not some lame divisional champion status. The Steelers should have been rewarded, not penalized, for having a 12-4 record in the toughest division in the conference.

blumj
01-11-2012, 09:09 PM
NFLN is replaying the Broncos-Steelers game right now if anyone missed it.

Stray
01-14-2012, 11:40 AM
Who I hope will win
Saints
Broncos
Giants
Texans

Who I think will win
Saints
Patriots
Giants
Ravens

kaldaniels
01-14-2012, 05:26 PM
I might get laughed at later but I jumped all over the Saints at -3.5.

dougdirt
01-14-2012, 06:24 PM
I picked the 49ers outright. Feeling good about it right now.

blumj
01-14-2012, 06:39 PM
Down 17 is a dust bunny for them, down 10 is pocket lint.

dougdirt
01-14-2012, 06:43 PM
Down 17 is a dust bunny for them, down 10 is pocket lint.

Yet they haven't come back from down 17 all season. Of course, I can't even say if they have even been down by 17 all season either. Still, down 17 against a very strong defense is tough, even for an elite offense.

blumj
01-14-2012, 06:50 PM
Speck of dust.

dougdirt
01-14-2012, 06:52 PM
Speck of dust.

That guy you were talking to above.... he knows nothing about football :lol:

kaldaniels
01-14-2012, 06:55 PM
It was 17-0 and I was gonna put money on the Saints straight up thru live in game betting. Down 17-0 the Saints straight up only paid 2.6 to 1. I passed, but that shows the respect had for their offense.

kaldaniels
01-14-2012, 07:00 PM
How ever this game turns out, it sure is fun to watch a game where the players are hitting hard every play.

Stray
01-14-2012, 07:19 PM
Saints have turned the ball over 4 times and are only 3 points down. They're lucky to be in their position, and I'd feel pretty good about the 2nd half if I were them.

blumj
01-14-2012, 07:47 PM
They should probably stop turning it over now, though.

kaldaniels
01-14-2012, 07:58 PM
Just when I am thinking the Niners have a great gameplan they puke up that throwback to the QB.

blumj
01-14-2012, 08:34 PM
That guy you were talking to above.... he knows nothing about football :lol:
Not true, that's some sturdy speck of dust.

RBA
01-14-2012, 08:57 PM
Sometimes you can score a TD too early. Maybe he should have stopped short of the goal line?

blumj
01-14-2012, 09:00 PM
I'm really glad I don't care who wins this game, this must be torturous for fans of both teams.

Stray
01-14-2012, 09:04 PM
Oh wow

redhawkfish
01-14-2012, 09:06 PM
Geez! What a game! and it is not over yet!

Stray
01-14-2012, 09:09 PM
HOly crap

redhawkfish
01-14-2012, 09:11 PM
HOly crap

I will capitalize all of it!:D

HOLY CRAP!

Ohayou
01-14-2012, 09:13 PM
That looked eerily similar to Young to T.O.

Stray
01-14-2012, 09:13 PM
These last two minutes have been unreal

kaldaniels
01-14-2012, 09:13 PM
Some game.

Redhook
01-14-2012, 09:17 PM
THAT was a football game. One of the best I've ever seen. Wow!

TheNext44
01-14-2012, 09:22 PM
And so it begins....

The battle between Jesus and God's gift to mankind. ;)

Tony Cloninger
01-14-2012, 09:27 PM
What an awful D NO has. I mean terible D.

Ohayou
01-14-2012, 09:29 PM
What's awful is Brees throwing it forward after the lateral.

Stray
01-14-2012, 09:35 PM
Not looking good for the Broncos.... Brady is sharp early on.

RBA
01-14-2012, 09:49 PM
Brady is going to throw for 666 yards.

blumj
01-14-2012, 10:31 PM
Option plays making the Pats defense look good, McGahee making them look bad.

CTA513
01-14-2012, 10:50 PM
Brady with 5 TD passes in the 1st half and Gronkowski with 3 TD catches

Stray
01-14-2012, 10:53 PM
Can't really get beat in one half any harder than that. Had we won last week I don't know if we coulda stopped these TEs either.

RBA
01-14-2012, 11:14 PM
Post Season record tied. 6 td passes.

RBA
01-14-2012, 11:15 PM
Lakers Clippers coming up on NBA TV. 216 on Directv.

VR
01-14-2012, 11:18 PM
Would love to see Brady throw for 8 tds....he may do it by the end of the 3rd.

Stray
01-14-2012, 11:52 PM
The only way the Broncos stood a chance was to be able to run the ball all game long and keep Brady on the sideline. They couldn't and Brady is picking them apart like he did in Denver.

Either way, Denver should be happy about this season. They can keep building around what they have and they'll be fine.

Really looking forward to the Giants and Packers tomorrow...I think that one could go either way. Oh and go Texans!

Stray
01-15-2012, 04:26 PM
Well the trend in this year's playoffs has been line play.

Bengals vs. Texans - Texans won the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. We couldn't block them or stop their run.
Steelers vs. Broncos - Broncos harassed Big Ben and were able to protect well enough for Tebow to make some plays.
Falcons vs. Giants - Giants dominated the LOS on both sides. Really bad.
Lions vs. Saints - Saints ran the ball with ease, and they couldn't get to Brees.
Broncos vs. Pats - Patriots were in the backfield in every snap, and Denver's pass rush could not bother Brady.
Saints vs. 49ers - The Smiths were bothering Brady all game, they opened holes for Gore, and they gave Alex Smith plenty of time against a blitz happy D.

Right now I think the Texans are winning the LOS and they're right in this game.

So yeah...Bengals, please upgrade your offensive line.

CTA513
01-15-2012, 05:19 PM
Ravens beat the Texans 20-13

Ravens offense blew outside of the 2 TDs they scored on short fields after turnovers.

Razor Shines
01-15-2012, 06:21 PM
Giants got hosed on that fumble by Greg Jennings.


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Stray
01-15-2012, 06:23 PM
The refs helped out the Packers in their first matchup against New York.

That was ridiculous.

MWM
01-15-2012, 06:35 PM
Wow, I have no idea what the refs were looking at for the fumble. It was incredibly clear cut and they missed it. It was a layup and they blew it. That's going to be talked about a lot of the Packers win.

Mutaman
01-15-2012, 06:43 PM
It makes up for the noncall on the Jerry Rice fumble way back when.

MWM
01-15-2012, 06:46 PM
Why does Troy Aikman hate the Packers so much?

Mutaman
01-15-2012, 06:50 PM
Why does Troy Aikman hate the Packers so much?


I've never had a problem with him, other than the fact that he cost Green Bay a couple of Lombardi Trophys. Him and that fellow Smith.

Stray
01-15-2012, 07:13 PM
Even with the refs gifting a touchdown the Giants lead 20-10 at half.

They're peaking at the right time.

Mutaman
01-15-2012, 07:19 PM
Packers playing like a team coming off a two week bye. Jennings and Kuhn never turn the ball over. They're winning on the line of scrimmage which I thought would be the key and they're down 10.

MWM
01-15-2012, 08:31 PM
Wow, the packers look like they've given up after than Grant fumble.

Ohayou
01-15-2012, 08:34 PM
How awesome would a Super Bowl 42 rematch be?

Stray
01-15-2012, 08:38 PM
Two bad calls from the refs have led to both Green Bay tds haha. That's one way to keep it interesting.

BuckeyeRed27
01-15-2012, 08:49 PM
How awesome would a Super Bowl 42 rematch be?

Please. This is going to be the Harbaugh Bowl. That won't be old after two weeks of intense media coverage at all.

CTA513
01-15-2012, 08:51 PM
Flynn thinks starting Rodgers over him was the wrong choice.

;)

Eric_the_Red
01-15-2012, 08:58 PM
Please. This is going to be the Harbaugh Bowl. That won't be old after two weeks of intense media coverage at all.

I'm rooting for a Harbaugh bowl. At least it would be two newer teams in the Super Bowl.

But if not Ravens/Niners, I'd take Ravens/Giants. Anybody but the Pats!

Ohayou
01-15-2012, 09:03 PM
What's wrong with the Patriots? Do you just not like the Boston fan base, or...?

Eric_the_Red
01-15-2012, 09:04 PM
What's wrong with the Patriots? Do you just not like the Boston fan base, or...?

Can't stand Belicheat. I respect Brady as a QB but don't like him as a person. And I don't want Ochocinco to sniff a Super Bowl.

Razor Shines
01-15-2012, 10:09 PM
I love watching Tom Brady and Eli Manning. I hope it's Giants and Pats.

GAC
01-16-2012, 06:01 AM
IMO, gonna be the Patriots-49ers in the SB.

The Ravens have the defense; but their offense is pretty erratic and inconsistent with Flacco. They're going to run the ball behind Rice and try to control time of possession vs the Pats to keep Brady off the field as much as possible. Their offensive line is also going to have to do a better job at protecting Flacco too. The Texans, which have a good defense, sacked him 5 times yesterday.

Ohayou
01-16-2012, 10:44 AM
I'd like to hear some actual, rational, non-jealousy based reasons why Tom Brady isn't likable. But then again, I won't hold my breath.

TeamSelig
01-16-2012, 11:36 AM
He has kind of a whiny demeanor... but I'm really not the best source as I just have a strange obsession to hate him. Maybe if he played for another team I might feel differently.

MWM
01-16-2012, 11:48 AM
I don't know that Brady is unlikeable. I think some don't like him because he was fawned over because of his looks and dated a revolving door of models and celebrities. I do think he's a bit or a prima donna, but he's a pretty classy guy and a great QB. I think his public persona probably suffers a little from the Belichek halo, who is utterly unlikeable.

Eric_the_Red
01-16-2012, 12:11 PM
I'd like to hear some actual, rational, non-jealousy based reasons why Tom Brady isn't likable. But then again, I won't hold my breath.

He left his pregnant girlfriend, which is a big reason I don't like him as a person. I respect what he does on the field, but am not a fan of his.

Slyder
01-19-2012, 03:53 PM
We've seen this song and dance before in the playoffs. I'm taking Baltimore straight up. New England's defense is AWFUL, I don't care what they did to Denver. Any playoff team should be able to destroy Denver's triple option college offense they were running.

Baltimore's D is still one of the premier defenses in the NFL and flat out dominanted New England the last time they played in NE in the cold of January. Defense wins championships and with Ray Rice they will keep Brady off the field. While Brady is on the field Suggs and Company is going to make Brady run for his life. I have no doubts that they will have plenty of new wrinkles for the "Chosen one" the only way New England wins is if the officials start flagging anyone that looks at Brady cross eyed.

Oh ya take the under.

Baltimore 24
New England 10

Razor Shines
01-19-2012, 06:01 PM
I could see that possibly happening but that was a completely different NE offense last time. They didn't have two humongous TEs last time.


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blumj
01-19-2012, 11:27 PM
They didn't have Welker for that game, either. The only 3 starters on offense who are the same are Brady, Light, and Mankins. Just looked it up, only 2 starters on defense are the same, too. Even I'm a little surprised to see that much turnover in just 2 years, although some of the backups are the same and some who were backups then are starters now.

hebroncougar
01-20-2012, 11:08 AM
I'd take NE -10 if that was the line. I don't think Baltimore has a chance. Flacco is awful.

bucksfan2
01-20-2012, 11:25 AM
I'd take NE -10 if that was the line. I don't think Baltimore has a chance. Flacco is awful.

The Ravens D is overrated at this point. Good, but not great.

The only advantage the Ravens offense has is Ray Rice. Other than that I give the Pats the advantage on offense.

I think it comes down to QB play, Brady vs. Flacco. I don't think its even a question there.

HotCorner
01-20-2012, 11:39 AM
I'm going with the Ravens and Giants this weekend.

The Patriots defense is horrendous. The Ravens offense will be able to control the clock with Ray Rice and thus limit Brady's chances. The Patriots have beaten only 1 team with a winning record this season - last week's win against Denver. The Patriots are vastly overrated as a team.

The Giants are probably playing the best of any team right now. Their d-line is a mismatch against SF's o-line. The Giants get out to an early lead and force SF into becoming on dimensional which then allows the Giants d-line to "pin their ears back" and get after Smith.

HotCorner
01-20-2012, 11:43 AM
Stat of the day: No team that has an offense or defense that ranks 26th or worst has won a Super Bowl.

The only that fits this stat this season would be the Baltimore Ravens (Def: 3rd | Off: 15th)

SF (Def: 4th | Off: 26th)
NYG (Def: 27th | Off: 8th)
NE: (Def: 31st | Off: 2nd)

texasdave
01-20-2012, 12:30 PM
Harbaugh versus Harbaugh.

Redsfan320
01-20-2012, 02:48 PM
I got NE in the AFC. Much as I dislike him, Brady's just a beast. NE 27, BAL 17.
I'll go SF in the NFC, but I think it'll be close. 49ers just look like a really solid team on both sides of the ball. SF 20, NY 17.

320

Roy Tucker
01-20-2012, 04:02 PM
I'll go with the Patriots and the 49'ers.

I just read where they've had 3 inches of rain in SF this week so Candlestick will be a swamp. I think the Giants excellent front 4 is based on speed and the turf will slow them down. And the Niner's are more of smashmouth belly-bumper team. But I think it will be an old-fashioned 60's-style slugfest and be like a 16-13 game, 49'ers. Both teams are playing great right now so it should be the best game.

And I think Belichick will pull enough defensive rabbits out of his hat to confuse Flacco. He is a just-OK QB and gets shook easy. And like many have said, the Raven's D is good, but not the killer defense it has been in the past. Brady and his TE's will put up enough points. I'll say 27-13 Patriots.

HotCorner
01-20-2012, 04:57 PM
And like many have said, the Raven's D is good, but not the killer defense it has been in the past. Brady and his TE's will put up enough points. I'll say 27-13 Patriots.

They ranked 3rd in the NFL! That's pretty good in my book. They will be able to slow down the Pats offense 20-28 point range.

The Ravens offense will be able to move the ball against the Patriots 31st ranked pass defense. The Patriots have given up the most passing plays (79) of 20+ yards this season. I see Torrey Smith having a big impact in this game.

blumj
01-22-2012, 04:05 PM
I'm sorry I didn't think to warn you guys about Steven Tyler, hope you all had working mute buttons.

mth123
01-22-2012, 04:07 PM
I'm sorry I didn't think to warn you guys about Steven Tyler, hope you all had working mute buttons.

That rendition of the national anthem was so horrid, they should charge him with Treason.;)

blumj
01-22-2012, 04:11 PM
That rendition of the national anthem was so horrid, they should charge him with Treason.;)
I've heard it so many times by now that I'm almost immune to it, sort of like when you live near a railroad crossing.

Chip R
01-22-2012, 04:44 PM
Since when is the QB's blind side his right side if he's a RH QB?

Newport Red
01-22-2012, 05:05 PM
Great play calling to make it 10-3. B-More needs to keep it a one score gmae going into the 3rd quarter.

GAC
01-22-2012, 05:17 PM
That rendition of the national anthem was so horrid, they should charge him with Treason.;)

Steven Tyler singing the National Anthem? Dream On. :D

That was horrendous IMO.

blumj
01-22-2012, 05:25 PM
Since when is the QB's blind side his right side if he's a RH QB?
He has eyes in the back of his head?

Stray
01-22-2012, 05:41 PM
The Ravens are only moving the ball through the air, at some point you gotta think Flacco is gonna throw one to the wrong team. Good game so far.

dabvu2498
01-22-2012, 07:13 PM
Wowsers. Billy Cundiff... A name which will live in infamy.

Stray
01-22-2012, 07:14 PM
Sucks to be Billy Cundiff right now

MWM
01-22-2012, 07:16 PM
I think he was spooked by the hold. For just a second it looked like it might be mishandled and he got the laces out of the way at the very last moment. It wound up being a good hold, but I think it broke his concentration. Feel bad for the guy, he's been a really good kicker for them.

blumj
01-22-2012, 07:18 PM
And that's how the defense that can't stop a nosebleed gets to the SB. Unbelievable.

Ohayou
01-22-2012, 07:21 PM
Lee Evans, how do you not make that catch? :laugh:

KoryMac5
01-22-2012, 07:30 PM
Baltimore very gutsy calls at the end of the game. I really felt that baltimore would have won in overtime, but we will never know.

BuckeyeRed27
01-22-2012, 07:31 PM
Lee Evans, how do you not make that catch? :laugh:

I mean it's not like if you hang on your going to the freaking Super Bowl!!
Cundiff is going to catch a lot of heat, but it shouldn't have mattered. Harbaugh should have called a time out too. Make sure your kicker is ready which he clearly wasn't.

Mutaman
01-22-2012, 07:47 PM
Lee Evans, how do you not make that catch? :laugh:


That's too bad. I've been a Lee Evans fan for a long time. He is a good guy and a class act.

kaldaniels
01-22-2012, 07:53 PM
I think he was spooked by the hold. For just a second it looked like it might be mishandled and he got the laces out of the way at the very last moment. It wound up being a good hold, but I think it broke his concentration. Feel bad for the guy, he's been a really good kicker for them.

Nantz glossed over the hold except for a brief mention, which I think was the way to handle it.

Don't get me wrong here, he's a good kicker. But a highly compensated professional kicker. The hold wound up a clean hold. It was a FG under 35 yards. Cundiff is the one to blame the kick on, not the hold/holder. (And that is if we are pointing fingers, and I'm not even sure that you are doing so)

oneupper
01-22-2012, 07:53 PM
Patriots to the SB. Me no like it.

Oxilon
01-22-2012, 07:53 PM
I mean it's not like if you hang on your going to the freaking Super Bowl!!
Cundiff is going to catch a lot of heat, but it shouldn't have mattered. Harbaugh should have called a time out too. Make sure your kicker is ready which he clearly wasn't.

Disagree. Don't ice your own kicker. Ask Jason Garrett. ;)

kaldaniels
01-22-2012, 07:56 PM
Patriots to the SB. Me no like it.

Now just hold on. I'm counting on the Giants to win, followed by days of talking heads spouting off that NE will get their revenge, only for NE to be Elied once again in the SB. Thats the scenario I'm rooting for. :D

BuckeyeRed27
01-22-2012, 07:58 PM
Disagree. Don't ice your own kicker. Ask Jason Garrett. ;)

He should have called it early. Cundiff was running down the field with the clock under 10 seconds. There is a reason Belichek didnt call one.

MWM
01-22-2012, 07:59 PM
Nantz glossed over the hold except for a brief mention, which I think was the way to handle it.

Don't get me wrong here, he's a good kicker. But a highly compensated professional kicker. The hold wound up a clean hold. It was a FG under 35 yards. Cundiff is the one to blame the kick on, not the hold/holder. (And that is if we are pointing fingers, and I'm not even sure that you are doing so)

Nope, not blaming the holder at all, it's on Cundiff. Just offering a potential explanation as to why he yanked such a short field goal. I'm sure the pressure of the situation already was in his head, and there was a split second between when the holder first made contact with the ball and when he got the hold right where it looked iffy. That could have jarred his concentration in such an intense situation. It's just a theory. He may have just choked.

kaldaniels
01-22-2012, 08:00 PM
Nope, not blaming the holder at all, it's on Cundiff. Just offering a potential explanation as to why he yanked such a short field goal. I'm sure the pressure of the situation already was in his head, and there was a split second between when the holder first made contact with the ball and when he got the hold right where it looked iffy. That could have jarred his concentration in such an intense situation. It's just a theory. He may have just choked.

Absolutely.

Newport Red
01-22-2012, 08:15 PM
That may have been the swan song for Lewis and Reed.

blumj
01-22-2012, 08:32 PM
So, is this the egg mcmuffin of message boards?

KoryMac5
01-22-2012, 09:00 PM
Giants definitely are more agressive in their playcalling so far. San Fran very conservative.

Stray
01-22-2012, 09:07 PM
Victor Cruz is really really good. Where did this guy come from anyway?

KoryMac5
01-22-2012, 09:13 PM
Undrafted free agent out of UMass. Got his big break when Steve Smith and Manningham couldn't stay healthy.

blumj
01-22-2012, 09:15 PM
Victor Cruz is really really good. Where did this guy come from anyway?
UMass.

Razor Shines
01-22-2012, 09:23 PM
Victor Cruz is really really good. Where did this guy come from anyway?

Umass, I think. No way to know for sure though.


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KoryMac5
01-22-2012, 09:52 PM
Vernon Davis is a one man wrecking crew.

improbus
01-22-2012, 09:52 PM
It always seems weird to me that giant human beings can crash into each other causing irreparable brain damage to one another fighting over mere inches only to have a rejected soccer player lose the game by kicking the ball a little to the left. It would be like having the NLCS being decided by the bullpen catcher, or perhaps Dustys son on a play at the plate... Football is a strange sport.

kaldaniels
01-22-2012, 09:56 PM
It always seems weird to me that giant human beings can crash into each other causing irreparable brain damage to one another fighting over mere inches only to have a rejected soccer player lose the game by kicking the ball a little to the left. It would be like having the NLCS being decided by the bullpen catcher, or perhaps Dustys son on a play at the plate... Football is a strange sport.

And I completely understand your sentiments. But would you change anything if you could?

improbus
01-22-2012, 10:01 PM
And I completely understand your sentiments. But would you change anything if you could?

Yes. Put a bar across the top of the goal posts. That will force kickers to kick it lower and will create more blocks. It will make teams really reconsider kicking.

Slyder
01-22-2012, 10:04 PM
Yes. Put a bar across the top of the goal posts. That will force kickers to kick it lower and will create more blocks. It will make teams really reconsider kicking.

I always was surprised that you didn't see more kickers come from Arena where accuracy is a lot more important or punters coming from other countries where they have rugby and are much tougher than the average American kicker.

Edit: Added g in rugby rather than ruby.

improbus
01-22-2012, 10:12 PM
I always was surprised that you didn't see more kickers come from Arena where accuracy is a lot more important or punters coming from other countries where they have ruby and are much tougher than the average American kicker.

I agree. I also thought you could force kickers to play at least 5 non kicking plays during the game. Really, I just want to see linebackers with the flat front shoes kicking again.

MWM
01-22-2012, 10:22 PM
What a bonehead that punt returner is for SF. He made an incredibly stupid play earlier diving for a punt. Now this? Catching a punt can be a challenge at times, but knowing when to try to catch one and when to get out of the way is not that hard.

WMR
01-22-2012, 10:26 PM
What a screw up.

blumj
01-22-2012, 10:29 PM
Everyone's doing it lately, too.

WMR
01-22-2012, 10:30 PM
Now he's really going to be a goat... :eek:

He better pray the niners can come back or he'll need to leave the state of California.

oneupper
01-22-2012, 10:33 PM
What a bonehead that punt returner is for SF. He made an incredibly stupid play earlier diving for a punt. Now this? Catching a punt can be a challenge at times, but knowing when to try to catch one and when to get out of the way is not that hard.

I honestly don't think that the ball hit him. In slow motion, the ball does not change its rotation or movement as it would if hit.

edabbs44
01-22-2012, 10:52 PM
That was a questionable call

Stray
01-22-2012, 10:59 PM
This is when Eli has been money...

edabbs44
01-22-2012, 11:10 PM
Hochuli loves to hear himself speak.

MWM
01-22-2012, 11:16 PM
Eli has made a couple of really bad throws that the 49er DBs keep getting in the way of the other one intercepting.

MWM
01-22-2012, 11:23 PM
Patrick Willlis is real good.

Stray
01-22-2012, 11:23 PM
Hochuli loves to hear himself speak.

Haha I was thinking that too.

kaldaniels
01-22-2012, 11:27 PM
Are you kidding?

MWM
01-22-2012, 11:28 PM
That punt returner cost the 49ers the game in regulation and again in OT.

Stray
01-22-2012, 11:29 PM
Wow first Cundiff and now Kyle Williams

Roy Tucker
01-22-2012, 11:30 PM
The giant's ought to vote that niner PR a playoff share. Dumb.

kaldaniels
01-22-2012, 11:31 PM
I was hoping for an epic OT drive. Ugh.

WMR
01-22-2012, 11:31 PM
Double Goat.

Ohayou
01-22-2012, 11:36 PM
I wonder how much money Williams put down on the Giants tonight.

kaldaniels
01-22-2012, 11:38 PM
Tom Coughlin deserves a lifetime appointment as Giants coach.

Roy Tucker
01-22-2012, 11:38 PM
Looks like Weatherford was wearing a wedding ring on the FG hold. Odd.

kaldaniels
01-22-2012, 11:39 PM
Looks like Weatherford was wearing a wedding ring on the FG hold. Odd.

I thought the same.

Stray
01-22-2012, 11:40 PM
Two really really good games today.

Now we get the 07 rematch and two weeks of ESPN talking about that game.

top6
01-22-2012, 11:53 PM
Not that it matters, but just for my own edification, does anyone know what would happen at the end of the first overtime period in a playoff game (assuming no team had scored)? Specifically, would the team that received at the beginning of overtime have to kick off (like it was the end of a half) or would they just switch sides and keep playing (like it was the end of the 1st or 3rd quarter)? Everything I found in 1 minute or so of googling just talked about the new scoring rules.

Roy Tucker
01-22-2012, 11:53 PM
Yep, good games.

Terry Bradshaw is brainless.

top6
01-22-2012, 11:55 PM
Yep, good games.

Terry Bradshaw is brainless.

LOL, I was really concerned he was going to drop that trophy.

MWM
01-23-2012, 12:02 AM
Harbaugh should have not had Williams back out there after the thin hit his knee. If that was his first mistake, then you can't bench a guy for that. But the dude dove for a a punt earlier in the game. It was really dumb and something you just never see. He was incredibly lucky not to have lost that one to the Giants.

Then he was very indecisive on that one that he touched that allowed the Giants to get a TD a few plays later.

At that point it should have been clear he was no up for that job in this game. I even said it after that play. At that moment, I thought Harbaugh needed to find someone else to field the punt. Williams was rattled.

Roy Tucker
01-23-2012, 12:03 AM
Double post. Darn phone.

kaldaniels
01-23-2012, 12:07 AM
Maybe Harbaugh can spend his offseason classing up his post game handshake. There's room for improvement.

Roy Tucker
01-23-2012, 12:10 AM
Not that it matters, but just for my own edification, does anyone know what would happen at the end of the first overtime period in a playoff game (assuming no team had scored)? Specifically, would the team that received at the beginning of overtime have to kick off (like it was the end of a half) or would they just switch sides and keep playing (like it was the end of the 1st or 3rd quarter)? Everything I found in 1 minute or so of googling just talked about the new scoring rules.


IIRC, its like the end of the 1st or 3rd qiarters. Swap ends and keep going. I remember that happening in the Chiefs Dolphins '71 playoff game that went 6 quarters.

Caveat Emperor
01-23-2012, 12:51 AM
Great games -- helped distract me from the anger of my Buccaneers hiring Chip Kelly to be their next 3-year failure at head coach.

Dom Heffner
01-23-2012, 02:06 AM
And that's how the defense that can't stop a nosebleed gets to the SB. Unbelievable.

Teams with high powered offenses often give up tons of yards. They were 14th in points allowed, hardly lousy.

blumj
01-23-2012, 09:11 AM
Teams with high powered offenses often give up tons of yards. They were 14th in points allowed, hardly lousy.

Sorry, Bart Scott called them that, think of it as a term of endearment in a love/hate relationship. Of course, it's all love today.

bucksfan2
01-23-2012, 09:34 AM
Harbaugh should have not had Williams back out there after the thin hit his knee. If that was his first mistake, then you can't bench a guy for that. But the dude dove for a a punt earlier in the game. It was really dumb and something you just never see. He was incredibly lucky not to have lost that one to the Giants.

Then he was very indecisive on that one that he touched that allowed the Giants to get a TD a few plays later.

At that point it should have been clear he was no up for that job in this game. I even said it after that play. At that moment, I thought Harbaugh needed to find someone else to field the punt. Williams was rattled.

Williams was back there because Ginn was out. Williams was already the #2 returner, how deep do teams go in that regard?

After watching the second half unfold it was quite evidend that neither team's offense was going to create a score on their own. It was going to take a TO or ST play. In the end it was a ST TO that sealed the game.

I think sometimes we blame the offensive player for the fumble when it was just a great defensive play, or shear luck at times. I don't think Williams was doing anything wrong, just got hit in the wrong place at the wrong time. Heck if he doesn't fumble he may have another 10-15 yards and puts the niners in very good field position.

KoryMac5
01-23-2012, 09:55 AM
The kid had only returned 5 all year with Ginn being the primary returner. However I got to put a lot of the blame on SF not coaching the kid up in that role. I think they needed to be specific about what punts to return and when to get the heck out of the way. I feel bad for the kid because his two gaffes lost them the game.

KoryMac5
01-23-2012, 09:57 AM
How do you only catch one pass all day Michael Crabtree? His performance was awful!

MWM
01-23-2012, 10:02 AM
I get that it was Ginn's role and he was a backup. My point is that he looked like he was in over his head. I mean, the kid dove for a punt. Who does that? Then he looks totally indecisive and made a HUGE mistake. He's a young guy on a big stage. You don't recover from that in a quarter. They could have had someone else go back to field the punt with the clear directive to either fair catch the ball or let it bounce. Williams was frazzled and should not have been put in a position to lose the game for them, which he did. I thought that before the punt was even made.

Roy Tucker
01-23-2012, 10:36 AM
In one of the post-games I watched, they emphasized how Tom Coughlin continues to "coach-up" his guys throughout the season. They said you are playing a lot of young guys and sometimes in positions you aren't familiar with and that the NFL still is a developmental league. Which I think applies here.

So yeah, Williams didn't have enough sense to not try things he's not capable of but I'll go along with putting some blame on Harbaugh too. Even if he's the #2 or #3 guy, you prepare him for that role and you coach him for it (or make sure your assistants do). And as a punt returner, your first mission is "first, do no harm". If you fair-catch every punt, well, that's OK. At least you aren't losing the game. I know Harbaugh is a very aggressive coach and wants his players to "make plays" as they say now. But sometimes you have to be smart. Put your WR with the best hands back there and make good decisions.

bucksfan2
01-23-2012, 10:39 AM
I get that it was Ginn's role and he was a backup. My point is that he looked like he was in over his head. I mean, the kid dove for a punt. Who does that? Then he looks totally indecisive and made a HUGE mistake. He's a young guy on a big stage. You don't recover from that in a quarter. They could have had someone else go back to field the punt with the clear directive to either fair catch the ball or let it bounce. Williams was frazzled and should not have been put in a position to lose the game for them, which he did. I thought that before the punt was even made.

If he was the #2 guy what do you think the #3 guy would look like? Also the Giants punter was sending low line drives back there, you have to take advantage of that. The one that hit his leg was a bad play, the one that he fumbled was an unfortunate play.

MWM
01-23-2012, 10:53 AM
To me the most telling play was the dive. It wound up not costing them, but oh man, I don't think I've ever seen that in the NFL. To me, that was a signal that the kid wasn't ready for this stage in that role. Sometimes you don't know that until they're out there so I don't think the #3 guy could have been worse. Like Roy said, you put a receiver with good hands back there with instructions fair catch. You can't lose the game on catching punts.

Sea Ray
01-23-2012, 11:07 AM
Great games -- helped distract me from the anger of my Buccaneers hiring Chip Kelly to be their next 3-year failure at head coach.

Oh well. At least now you know Kelly's not going to TB:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7492379/chip-kelly-oregon-ducks-passes-tampa-bay-buccaneers-offer-general-manager-says

Caveat Emperor
01-23-2012, 01:00 PM
Oh well. At least now you know Kelly's not going to TB:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7492379/chip-kelly-oregon-ducks-passes-tampa-bay-buccaneers-offer-general-manager-says

I feel like a dude on death row who just got a phone call from the governor.

Not saying who they end up hiring will be great, but Chip Kelly had Bobby Petrino v. 2.0 written all over it.

WMR
01-23-2012, 01:28 PM
It doesn't matter if the guy was 2nd, 3rd, or 6th on the depth chart, the moment was obviously too big for him and Harbaugh should have gone to someone else.

Ditka said this exact same thing on Mike & Mike this morning and I fully agree.

Razor Shines
01-23-2012, 02:19 PM
The best point was made by MWM, about Williams diving to catch that punt like he was a center fielder. Harbaugh shouldn't have let him go back out there after that. Send Crabtree out there, something.


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Eric_the_Red
01-23-2012, 03:03 PM
Heard the early line was N.E. favored by 3 in the Super Bowl. I'm not a betting man, but if I were I would take NYG and the points easy. In fact I think the Giants win the game straight up.

redsfanmia
01-23-2012, 03:09 PM
I have a question about the Patriots and this may sound dumb but why don't more borderline players play both ways in certain situations like Edelman does and Troy Brown used to? It seems like Belechick is the only coach to do this and I don't get it. If I was a 5th wide reciever I would volunteer to be a nickol or dime back, seems like it would make me more useful and prolong my career.

blumj
01-23-2012, 03:23 PM
The easy answer is that other coaches have to worry about getting fired for doing unconventional things if they don't work and Belichick doesn't. But other coaches also don't seem to release half decent DBs before and during the season to keep extra linemen on the roster instead.

Sea Ray
01-23-2012, 03:41 PM
Heard the early line was N.E. favored by 3 in the Super Bowl. I'm not a betting man, but if I were I would take NYG and the points easy. In fact I think the Giants win the game straight up.

I agree. I see the Giants winning this game more easily than they did in 2007. NE's defense will be their undoing. If I'm a NE fan, I'm hoping to channel the Eli of old and hope he throws 4 picks

Dom Heffner
01-23-2012, 06:35 PM
Sorry, Bart Scott called them that, think of it as a term of endearment in a love/hate relationship. Of course, it's all love today.

No need to be sorry my friend...analyzing NFL defenses is hard, especially when many yards are racked up in garbage/prevent time.

When you score 30 plus points a game, you normally give up some yards.

Roy Tucker
01-24-2012, 02:51 PM
Looks like Weatherford was wearing a wedding ring on the FG hold. Odd.

Just to close this loop...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/extramustard/hotclicks/01/23/gal-gadot-steve-weatherford-wears-wedding-ring-during-game/index.html

There is a link on that page that tells about pro athletes that wear their wedding rings on the field of play.

Sea Ray
01-24-2012, 04:12 PM
Just to close this loop...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/extramustard/hotclicks/01/23/gal-gadot-steve-weatherford-wears-wedding-ring-during-game/index.html

There is a link on that page that tells about pro athletes that wear their wedding rings on the field of play.

I see a lot of guys with tape on their left ring finger so I presumed this was covering up a wedding ring. One such example this year was Ben Roethlisberger

Roy Tucker
01-24-2012, 04:17 PM
I see a lot of guys with tape on their left ring finger so I presumed this was covering up a wedding ring. One such example this year was Ben Roethlisberger

Yep.

See http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story/_/id/7182495/uni-watch-talks-ben-roethlisberger-other-athletes-wearing-wedding-rings-field?eleven=twelve

Sea Ray
01-24-2012, 04:46 PM
Yep.

See http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story/_/id/7182495/uni-watch-talks-ben-roethlisberger-other-athletes-wearing-wedding-rings-field?eleven=twelve

Sounds like Ben is "whipped"

dabvu2498
01-24-2012, 04:57 PM
Cundiff rushed the process because of a scoreboard error:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Billy-Cundiff-Baltimore-Ravens-kicker-blames-New-England-Patriots-scoreboard-error-for-missed-field-goal-012312