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MikeThierry
01-20-2012, 10:03 PM
I need some thoughts here. I'm getting my refund back and it's enough for me to invest in a new computer. However, I'm going the New Egg route and building my own. I'm looking for a high performance gaming rig. What kind of computer parts would you suggest? I'm looking at Intel processors but I'm open to AMD. What type of power supply should I get? What is your all suggestions for video cards? I'm all ears! :)

Also, my budget is around $1000 though I'm willing to spend slightly higher if the part justifies the cost (IE better video card, etc)

Stray
01-20-2012, 10:19 PM
Wow kinda hard to say.

I'd be sure to go with at least a 2nd gen i5, it's pretty affordable now. Sometimes Newegg has i7s on sale too. I haven't used an AMD processor in quite some time so I'm not sure what you'd want there.

For a graphics card it really depends on what kinda gaming you want. At the bare minimum you'll prolly want a 6700-ish card. Something like a 6850-6870 would be really nice. From there on up they just get more expensive, but in most cases you're getting what you pay for. I'd be sure to do some research here so you're sure to make the right purchase. Like with AMD processors, I haven't had an Nvidia card in a long time so I dunno.

Power supply really depends on what kinda gpu you get, and what your system needs. If you get a big card you're gonna need a bigger psu. Also, if you invest in a good card you may wanna look into some cooling for it since some tend to run hot.

Another way to spend your money well is to get an SSD, not totally necessary and 7200 rpm hdds are still fine, but you really notice the difference in an ssd.

For memory a lotta people really overdo it, unless you're gonna power the entire internet you really only need 8gb.

If you're just going this route to save money you might wanna keep your eyes peeled for different computer makers having systems on sale. If you're doing this because you just wanna build a PC for yourself, good luck and I hope you get all the stuff you need.

MikeThierry
01-20-2012, 10:22 PM
Wow kinda hard to say.

I'd be sure to go with at least a 2nd gen i5, it's pretty affordable now. Sometimes Newegg has i7s on sale too. I haven't used an AMD processor in quite some time so I'm not sure what you'd want there.

For a graphics card it really depends on what kinda gaming you want. At the bare minimum you'll prolly want a 6700-ish card. From there on up they just get more expensive, but in most cases you're getting what you pay for. I'd be sure to do some research here so you're sure to make the right purchase. Like with AMD processors, I haven't had an nvidia card in a long time so I dunno.

Power supply really depends on what kinda gpu you get, and what your system needs. If you get a big card you're gonna need a bigger psu. Also, if you invest in a good card you may wanna look into some cooling for it since some tend to run hot.

Another way to spend your money well is to get an SSD, not totally necessary and 7200 rpm hdds are still fine, but you really notice the difference in an ssd.

For memory a lotta people really overdo it, unless you're gonna power the entire internet you really only need 8gb.

If you're just going this route to save money you might wanna keep your eyes peeled for different computer makers having systems on sale. If you're doing this because you just wanna build a PC for yourself, good luck and I hope you get all the stuff you need.


Good info. I partly want to do this to say that I built my own computer. It feels more like an accomplishment rather than having someone else build it. I've also not been happy with some of the stuff I have seen out there in retail. Looking at the specs, they have things that I like but other things that I would either upgrade or not need.

RBA
01-20-2012, 10:33 PM
If you are not too far from Brentwood:

http://www.microcenter.com/at_the_stores/brentwood.html

Stray
01-20-2012, 10:33 PM
Awesome man. I've never built one from scratch or a barebones kit or anything, but the only probs I've ever heard people having is getting hardware that doesn't really go well together. I'd just be sure to get a motherboard/cpu combo that's natural...I don't really know a lot about that though.

For gaming most are more gpu reliant than cpu, if you got a higher level i5 or any i7 you'd be set I'm sure. For graphic cards I'd just google ones you're looking at and check out their benchmarks on games you like to play so you'll have an idea of what kinda fps to expect. I know some of the more hardcore gamers run setups with dual high end cards, but I'd imagine that's for crazy levels of gaming.

Roy Tucker
01-20-2012, 10:41 PM
Be like my son and get the clear colored PC case and neon tubes.

Useless as teats on a boar but pretty cool.

code
01-21-2012, 02:33 AM
I do a ton of online gaming and I recently built a new computer about 3 months ago. Here is my specs: (Sorry I use NeweggBusiness / it's my work account)

CPU: i7-2600k Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131703

Primary Hard drive: Crucial RealSSD C300 64gig
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148357

Secondary Hard drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

RAM: CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (bought 2) 16GB
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145315

Graphics Card: ASUS ENGTX570 (HUGE CARD)
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121432&Tpk=asus%20570

Sound Card:Creative PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium (I hate onboard sound) (Got it for $99.00)
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102021

CD/DVD Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

PowerSupply: RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152035

Case: Thermaltake V3 Black Edition
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094

I understand I could of went overboard on some of the components but, I do this for a living and it's FUN!. Plus I got some good discounts on a lot of them. Unfortunately hard drives jumped up about 110% in price over the last 2 months.

I spent around $800.00 (without video card) so about $1100.00 total on everything. I spent $64.00 on my secondary hard drive that is now $239.00 (that shows how the prices have jumped)

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/789/machine.jpg


7.6 out of 7.9 I still need to overclock the CPU a bit about the only thing that could make it a bit higher.

Here is what Battle.net has my system specs as:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8105/specs2z.jpg

I play games like World of Warcraft, Quake Live, Starcraft 2, Call of Duty MW3, Skyrim (Game looks amazing on full settings), Mass Effect Series, F1 2011, now awaiting Diablo 3 and Counter-Strike GO. :)

If you have any questions let me know, I love doing computer builds. This was around my 5th "personal" build.

MikeThierry
01-21-2012, 02:45 PM
I do a ton of online gaming and I recently built a new computer about 3 months ago. Here is my specs: (Sorry I use NeweggBusiness / it's my work account)

CPU: i7-2600k Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131703

Primary Hard drive: Crucial RealSSD C300 64gig
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148357

Secondary Hard drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

RAM: CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (bought 2) 16GB
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145315

Graphics Card: ASUS ENGTX570 (HUGE CARD)
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121432&Tpk=asus%20570

Sound Card:Creative PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium (I hate onboard sound) (Got it for $99.00)
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102021

CD/DVD Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

PowerSupply: RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152035

Case: Thermaltake V3 Black Edition
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094

I understand I could of went overboard on some of the components but, I do this for a living and it's FUN!. Plus I got some good discounts on a lot of them. Unfortunately hard drives jumped up about 110% in price over the last 2 months.

I spent around $800.00 (without video card) so about $1100.00 total on everything. I spent $64.00 on my secondary hard drive that is now $239.00 (that shows how the prices have jumped)

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/789/machine.jpg


7.6 out of 7.9 I still need to overclock the CPU a bit about the only thing that could make it a bit higher.

Here is what Battle.net has my system specs as:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8105/specs2z.jpg

I play games like World of Warcraft, Quake Live, Starcraft 2, Call of Duty MW3, Skyrim (Game looks amazing on full settings), Mass Effect Series, F1 2011, now awaiting Diablo 3 and Counter-Strike GO. :)

If you have any questions let me know, I love doing computer builds. This was around my 5th "personal" build.

Nice looking computer! I think where I might go different is on the hard drive. I'm not in the need for two and I think a terrabit of storage space is overboard for what I'm needed it for. I don't store a lot of video on my computer and mostly would be using it for gaming. I am probably going to cheaper on that and maybe use that cost for an epic gaming card.

Johnny Footstool
01-21-2012, 10:14 PM
Mike, if you'll notice, the primary hard drive on code's machine is a solid state drive. You load only your OS (Windows) on that drive. If you do that, Windows takes something like *5 seconds* to boot from a cold start. You use the secondary hard drive for data, like games.

MikeThierry
01-21-2012, 10:52 PM
Mike, if you'll notice, the primary hard drive on code's machine is a solid state drive. You load only your OS (Windows) on that drive. If you do that, Windows takes something like *5 seconds* to boot from a cold start. You use the secondary hard drive for data, like games.

Is there any difference in performance other than start up and is it so drastic as to justify the price?

AtomicDumpling
01-22-2012, 02:22 AM
SSD drives are great. If you put your operating system and most-used programs on there it will make your system run faster. An SSD drive is like a giant flash drive and they are noticeably faster than hard disk drives. There are no moving parts. The downside to SSD drives is if they fail you will lose your data permanently. So put your programs on the SSD and your data, photos, music, files and documents on a regular hard drive. If the hard drive fails you can still retrieve the data.

The best reason to build your own computer is because you will get a better computer. If you buy a computer at the store (even the top brands) you are getting lots of generic parts, outdated parts and junk software that will slow down your computer. If you build your own you can use only premium parts, which means your computer will be faster and more reliable -- and you will still save money because you don't have a manufacturer adding their profit on to the purchase price. Home built computers are simply better than store bought computers.

I have built quite a few computers. It is actually very easy.

code
01-22-2012, 09:17 AM
Yep! Everyone above is correct. SSD are amazing right now. I loaded only my operating system and it takes literally 4-5seconds to boot my computer. I cannot wait until they come down in price so I can put more things on them.

paintmered
01-22-2012, 01:18 PM
http://www.tomshardware.com

If you go to only one site, make sure this one is it. One stop shopping to get smart and maximize your value.

dougdirt
01-22-2012, 05:45 PM
If you buy a computer at the store (even the top brands) you are getting lots of generic parts, outdated parts and junk software that will slow down your computer.

The computer that I am currently using is a laptop I got from a friend, who spent a nice chunk of change on it and cracked the screen within two months of having it, but wound up just buying another laptop because he was leaving for Afghanistan a few days later. I just run a wireless keyboard/mouse and an external monitor off of it. The first thing I did once I "restored it to out of the box settings" was uninstall nearly every piece of software that came on it outside of Windows 7 and a few utility tools that are useful. The amount of crap that is put onto a new computer you buy from a store is disgusting.

MikeThierry
01-22-2012, 08:37 PM
Thank you all for your input. I think I've been convinced to go down the SSD route. Maybe get a 500 GB regular hard drive (to save money) and get a SSD.

The other thing I'm waffling on is the video card. I'm just not sure what to get. I want a good one but the best ones are way out of my budget. What cards will give you the best bang for the buck?

This is the one I was kind of keeping my eye on but I'm open to anything:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0050I1PH4/qid=1008036386/sr=8-4/mysuperpc-20

code
01-23-2012, 08:37 AM
ha-ha, that is funny you posted that card. I actully recommended to another friend of mine two days ago. It's a great card for the price. Plus I am so happy you are going with Nvidia.. Nvidia > ATI

Here Newegg has it 10 bucks cheaper.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130660

Glad your build is coming along great!

MikeThierry
01-24-2012, 01:16 PM
ha-ha, that is funny you posted that card. I actully recommended to another friend of mine two days ago. It's a great card for the price. Plus I am so happy you are going with Nvidia.. Nvidia > ATI

Here Newegg has it 10 bucks cheaper.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130660

Glad your build is coming along great!

ahh good stuff. I'm probably going to go down that route then. What's surprising is that Amazon actually has pretty decent prices on things. While that is $10 less expensive on New Egg, I'm looking at other websites and Amazon blows some of those sites out of the water on prices. It's a good alternative site, in my opinion, if New Egg is out of stock on a certain product you want.

code
01-24-2012, 03:30 PM
Yeah, My product searching list is Newegg,Amazon,Tigerdirect

Whatever is cheaper gets my buisness.

RBA
01-24-2012, 04:44 PM
Yeah, My product searching list is Newegg,Amazon,Tigerdirect

Whatever is cheaper gets my buisness.

Yup, I am also lucky to have a Fry's less than 3 miles drive from me. :thumbup:

The tax I pay is worth it due to easy returns and Fry's matches internet prices. And I get it immediately, don't have to wait for Fedex to chuck my packages over the fence.

AtomicDumpling
01-25-2012, 05:18 AM
The computer that I am currently using is a laptop I got from a friend, who spent a nice chunk of change on it and cracked the screen within two months of having it, but wound up just buying another laptop because he was leaving for Afghanistan a few days later. I just run a wireless keyboard/mouse and an external monitor off of it. The first thing I did once I "restored it to out of the box settings" was uninstall nearly every piece of software that came on it outside of Windows 7 and a few utility tools that are useful. The amount of crap that is put onto a new computer you buy from a store is disgusting.

Yes you are absolutely right. All that junk software just bogs things down. Every program you install uses system resources that can create conflicts. Uninstalling them helps but they can still leave relics behind. Most of the software that comes pre-installed on computers are just watered-down versions of programs or older versions or trial versions or just simply stuff you will never, ever use. It is better to start with a clean empty hard drive and install only the programs you will actually use.

foxfire123
01-25-2012, 11:19 PM
Since you're in St Louis MT, why not try Micro Center at Brentwood/hwy 40/64? Friend of mine who builds his own computers swears by that place.