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elfmanvt07
01-26-2012, 06:08 PM
I've been following an article on ESPN the last few days, featuring sportswriters suggesting "fixes" for the game of baseball. Most of what they come up with is ridiculous (save the roster one), and today they were told precisely that by some baseball insiders. What's MUCH more interesting, however are some of the fan suggestions (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7505635/feedback-mlb-changing-proposals). What do you guys think?

P.S. - The reader submissions are near the bottom.

P.P.S. - I've wanted managers out of uniform for YEARS. In my travels abroad, it's BY FAR the most ridiculed thing about American sports.

Reds/Flyers Fan
01-26-2012, 06:26 PM
I've been following an article on ESPN the last few days, featuring sportswriters suggesting "fixes" for the game of baseball. Most of what they come up with is ridiculous (save the roster one), and today they were told precisely that by some baseball insiders. What's MUCH more interesting, however are some of the fan suggestions (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7505635/feedback-mlb-changing-proposals). What do you guys think?

P.S. - The reader submissions are near the bottom.

P.P.S. - I've wanted managers out of uniform for YEARS. In my travels abroad, it's BY FAR the most ridiculed thing about American sports.

I can't think of anything more ridiculous than a manager NOT in uniform. Should they wear suits, like basketball coaches? Michael Young is right: Do we really want to see Lou Piniella running out to second base to argue a call wearing a suit? And who wants to sit in the dugout in a suit on a 120-degree afternoon in Arlington, Texas? And if they're going to wear team gear like NFL coaches, they might as well just stay in uniform. Otherwise the dugout will turn into one big MLB apparel fashion show.

That suggestion does absolutely zero to improve the game of baseball. It's just not a problem.

I love using the visiting team's rules in interleague games, however. That would spice it up a little bit.

MikeThierry
01-26-2012, 07:18 PM
Am I the only one that not only thinks people make too much of a deal out of the speed of the game but actually likes that baseball is a time free sport? It's one of the things that makes baseball unique in world sport. Just as there are lazy, timeless afternoons that seem to go on forever during the summer, the summer sport should mirror those days. Now, I'm not saying that some of the issues brought up aren't legit. However, the main focus should be improving the level of officiating and making the game "pure", from a PED standpoint. I say save your dang ideas that will save five minutes in a four hour long game. Give me replay and I'll be fine!

camisadelgolf
01-26-2012, 08:01 PM
The last thing I want is for the game to become more appealing to Americans with undiagnosed cases of ADD. I also want the owners to earn less money, less revenue in advertising, less exposure, cheaper tickets, etc.

elfmanvt07
01-26-2012, 08:07 PM
I can't think of anything more ridiculous than a manager NOT in uniform. Should they wear suits, like basketball coaches? Michael Young is right: Do we really want to see Lou Piniella running out to second base to argue a call wearing a suit? And who wants to sit in the dugout in a suit on a 120-degree afternoon in Arlington, Texas?

Yes they should. They're professionals, not athletes. Dress like it. I've NEVER understood why managers wear a uniform. No other sport does it. I'm sure someone's going to say that it's something that makes baseball unique. If I started working for a consulting firm where everyone smeared ketchup on their faces before a meeting, we would certainly be viewed as unique, but it somewhat betrays my intent and my pay grade.

corkedbat
01-26-2012, 08:27 PM
I can think of nothing more trivial than what the Manager wears and I hate the idea of dropping lower performing teams to a lower divison. As a matter of fact, if the Europeans think its a good idea, that's a good reason to s-can the idea from the get-go. If I had to take a stand one way or the other I'd stick with the unis since it is traditional and sets the sport apart.

I really don't like the idea to shorten the games to eight innings idea or mess with the way relievers are used. I'm lukewarm on the week-long extravaganza. I'm OK withe the umpire in the booth, the September 25-man roste and the no-pitch iBB. I also believe the DH rule should be standardized period.

Of the 10, my favorite would be bringing back Doubleheaders. Make it a tradition that the last date vefore the All-Star-break is a double dip. 15 teams host one year and the other 15 the next. Maybe even make a roster exception where the teams could bring up a starter from the minors on that day to start one of the games.

If I were to name five "Game Changers" of my own they would be:

5. A 26-man roster. Benches/Pens are too short.

4. More Doubleheaders

3. Standardize the DH rule. Keep it ior get rid of it. No midle ground.

2. Add international players to the June Draft or hold an International Draft.

1. The Ultimate Real "Game Changer": A salary cap or anything to close the gap between haves and have-nots.

Bonus: And one more (just for controversy). Form a pool that gives each team $20M that it must use toward one star player (kind of a riff on the "Franchise Player" in theNJL. It is specifically to allow each team to hang onto one star or add one. The teams can add to it and use it over a period of time for an LTC, but it must be used on one player and in addition to the regular payroll. The teams don't have to use it all, but any unused portion goes back in the kitty or is rolled forward to for the next year..

Eric_the_Red
01-26-2012, 08:34 PM
If I were to name five "Game Changers" of my own they would be:

5. A 26-man roster. Benches/Pens are too short.

4. More Doubleheaders

3. Standardize the DH rule. Keep it ior get rid of it. No midle ground.

2. Add international players to the June Draft or hold an International Draft.

1. The Ultimate Real "Game Changer": A salary cap or anything to close the gap between haves and have-nots.

Co-sign. All would be good for the long term health of the sport.

elfmanvt07
01-26-2012, 08:38 PM
I can think of nothing more trivial than what the Manager wears and I hate the idea of dropping lower performing teams to a lower divison. As a matter of fact, if the Europeans think its a good I dea that a good reason to s-can the idea from the get-go. If I had to take a stand one way or the other I'd stick with the unis since it is traditional and sets the sport apart.

I really don't like the idea to shorten the games to eight innings idea or mess with the way relievers are used. I'm lukewarm on the week-long extravaganza. I'm OK withe the umpire in the booth, the September 25-man roste and the no-pitch iBB. I also believe the DH rule should be standardized period.

Of the 10, my favorite would be bringing back Doubleheaders. Hake it a tradition that the last date vefore the All-Star-break is a double dip. 15 teams host one year and the other 15 the next. Maybe even make a roster exception where the teams could bring up a starter from the minors on that day to start one of the games.

If I were to name five "Game Changers" of my own they would be:

5. A 26-man roster. Benches/Pens are too short.

4. More Doubleheaders

3. Standardize the DH rule. Keep it ior get rid of it. No midle ground.

2. Add international players to the June Draft or hold an International Draft.

1. The Ultimate Real "Game Changer": A salary cap or anything to close the gap between haves and have-nots.

I don't think baseball should institute promotion/relegation after the fact. The entire modern baseball system is built completely against that notion. That being said, it makes everyone's season interesting in the most popular sport on Earth.

I like most of your ideas, and agree with most of your assessments for the supplied ones. I just don't know how you can look at these pictures and not see "class" and "removed from Chucky Cheese for drunkenness", respectively.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/1109/grant_g_mackc_576.jpg
http://ultimateyankees.com/Lou%20Pinella%20Photo%208.jpg

RedlegJake
01-26-2012, 08:43 PM
Keep the DH as it is - I'm in the minority I guess but I'd rather have it stay as is than have it in both leagues. Fine with eliminating it but can't stand it so I'd rather have it split like this than suffer it in the NL. They are different leagues, who cares if they have different rules?

Don't add players to the International June draft - but do have a separate International draft to make some sense of the mess that is international signings season

Replay is okay for certain plays but please not balls and strikes. Umps and their zones are part of the game. Always have been always should be. The game is human. I don't want a home run on the wrong side of the pole counted or a trapped flyball called out but individual balls and strikes is getting too obsessive with the camera for my taste.

I don't care that much about time saving. I enjoy the game as a long release from the cares of time - its part of what I love about baseball - I don't watch the clock when I watch a game. There is no clock. It's about the last refuge from the time driven insanity of daily life. SO when someone says I know how we can shorten the games, I usually say "yawwwnn."

Uniforms for managers - I don't care- I wish they'd allow managers to make their own decision. A suit would look no sillier and much more refined on Tommy Lasorda than a uniform for crying out loud. A roly poly gray haired 70 something shuffling out to the mound in a uniform looks silly. Period. A suit would look sensible. Or slacks and a shirt and tie. Younger managers - hey - wear the uni! Knock yourself out! Feel like one of the boys!

Vottomatic
01-26-2012, 08:49 PM
5. A 27-man roster. Add 1 player to the bench and one to the bullpen. Would help eliminate transactions with the farm sysstem when a major league player has a 2 to 4 day injury. A team wouldn't have to go shorthanded or waste a transaction.

4. More Doubleheaders - doesn't do much for me.

3. Standardize the DH rule. Keep it ior get rid of it. No middle ground. Agree with this one.

2. Add international players to the June Draft or hold an International Draft. Absolutely needed to give the have nots a chance too.

1. The Ultimate Real "Game Changer": A salary cap or anything to close the gap between haves and have-nots.

1b. No guaranteed contracts. They kill a team when a player gets hurt and isn't the same player anymore. Or when a player just starts to suck.

Eric_the_Red
01-26-2012, 08:51 PM
Keep the DH as it is - I'm in the minority I guess but I'd rather have it stay as is than have it in both leagues. Fine with eliminating it but can't stand it so I'd rather have it split like this than suffer it in the NL. They are different leagues, who cares if they have different rules?


By having the DH in the AL only, you give those clubs an advantage when signing free agents. Take the Fielder to Detroit deal or Pujols to Anaheim. Without the DH, there is no way they get signed to such long term deals. That is why I want it the same in both leagues.

Mario-Rijo
01-26-2012, 09:09 PM
5. A 27-man roster. Add 1 player to the bench and one to the bullpen. Would help eliminate transactions with the farm sysstem when a major league player has a 2 to 4 day injury. A team wouldn't have to go shorthanded or waste a transaction.

4. More Doubleheaders - doesn't do much for me.

3. Standardize the DH rule. Keep it ior get rid of it. No middle ground. Agree with this one.

2. Add international players to the June Draft or hold an International Draft. Absolutely needed to give the have nots a chance too.

1. The Ultimate Real "Game Changer": A salary cap or anything to close the gap between haves and have-nots.

1b. No guaranteed contracts. They kill a team when a player gets hurt and isn't the same player anymore. Or when a player just starts to suck.

While I agree guaranteed contracts stink you'd never get this one past the union unless the sport fell apart 1st like Hockey sort of did.

corkedbat
01-26-2012, 09:29 PM
Most basketball managers are sstill jocks. They are not gonna want to be in suits 162 games a year (I sure wouldn't). If they have to wear suits every game, then they will have to schlep around a ton of wardrobe around - especially on long taod trips, not to mention having to get the suits dry cleaned in different cities. If they and the staff are wearing unis, they just give it tot the equipment managers with the rest of the team. Lostically alone, suits on managers are a bad idea and, most importantly, who wants to be wearing a suit outside every day when it's 80-90m degrees with 90-100% humidity? You'd scuff a lot of nice dress shows too kicking dirt on home plate. :D

As for the doubleheaders? i always just liked doubleheaders and would go every year if the Reds would schedule one a year. It would be an event to look forward to for me.

MikeThierry
01-26-2012, 09:41 PM
Yes they should. They're professionals, not athletes. Dress like it. I've NEVER understood why managers wear a uniform. No other sport does it.

Have you seen what Bill Belichick wears on game day? He makes any MLB manager look like they are dressing high class.

mattfeet
01-26-2012, 10:04 PM
My 1 suggestion, and one Ive actually sent to the Reds' FO:

I would LOVE to see a "throwback" day at the ballpark. I want to experience what going to a baseball game in the 20's and 30's was like. This is something I, and 99% of baseball fans, will never have the pleasure of saying we were able to experience. Just imagine, fans being recommended to dress in their Sunday's best, no music over the PA, no digital-3D-in-your-face videos, advertisements, or banner around the stadium. Have an organist (live or recorded) play between innings and during pitcher warm-ups, shut off the scoreboard except for the box score, and have the vendors dress up as well (similar to how the mobile-hot-dog-guy at GABP already does).

I want to experience baseball. Nothing else.

Make it a night game, under the humming lights, where all you can hear is the roar of the crowd, the whiz of a 95MPH fastball,the crack of the bat, and the deafening silence right before the crowd erupts after a game-winning home run.

I present to you, Cincinnati, "Crosley Field Night".




-Matt

AtomicDumpling
01-26-2012, 10:08 PM
1. Increasing the size of the roster beyond 25 would lengthen the games because managers would have the luxury of making even more pitching changes in the middle of innings.

2. I like doubleheaders. If you added doubleheaders you could play all 162 games in fewer days and then start the playoffs earlier in the year. More doubleheaders rewards teams that have depth, especially pitching depth.

3. I support replay, but not for balls and strikes. I support post-game electronic grading of umpires to find out which ones deserve to keep their jobs.

4. Baseball players are supposed to play offense and defense -- no designated hitters. Why single out pitchers to be replaced with a DH? Maybe someday baseball will be like football and each player will either play offense or defense and not both. Why not have 9 designated hitters, 1 pitcher and 8 position players? We would see much better defense if defensive specialists could be used. This idea is not any more ridiculous than having a DH for the pitcher, it is a natural extension of the principle.

5. All players should be eligible for the draft no matter where they were born. The system as it stands unfairly punishes Americans.

6. MLB should negotiate all media contracts and split the revenues equally among all teams. The only revenue differences amongst teams should be ticket sales and concession sales. Ticket sales should be split evenly between both teams that played the game, i.e. when the Reds play the Yankees in New York the two teams split the ticket revenue, and vice versa when the Yankees visit Cincinnati. Of course this will never happen obviously.

7. To speed up games:
When a new pitcher is announced he must face at least one batter.
Each team is limited to two pitching changes per inning (barring injury of course, the injured pitcher then can't pitch for at least 5 days to prevent faking of injuries).
Reduce the time between innings.
Limit of one visit to the mound per game and the coach has to be back in the dugout 60 seconds after he steps out of it -- no more long, slow strolls to the mound.
The catcher can only visit the mound once per inning and is limited to 20 seconds.
New pitcher gets only 2 pitches to adjust to mound, he can warm up in the bullpen.

8. Managers and Coaches must wear a team hat and a jersey shirt but should wear some pants that actually fit and don't look ridiculous on a fat old guy.

9. No relegation.

10. I love the idea of using the visitor's rules for interleague games. Shake things up a bit and make interleague games stand out. It would be better to get rid of the DH altogether though.

11. Automatic intentional walks -- no pitches.

12. Get rid of Wild Cards in the playoffs. 2nd and 3rd place teams winning the World Series is a perversity and it sickens me.

corkedbat
01-26-2012, 10:10 PM
I don't think baseball should institute promotion/relegation after the fact. The entire modern baseball system is built completely against that notion. That being said, it makes everyone's season interesting in the most popular sport on Earth.

I like most of your ideas, and agree with most of your assessments for the supplied ones. I just don't know how you can look at these pictures and not see "class" and "removed from Chucky Cheese for drunkenness", respectively.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/1109/grant_g_mackc_576.jpg
http://ultimateyankees.com/Lou%20Pinella%20Photo%208.jpg

As to suits making gentlemen out of ruffians? Just about every photo of mobsters from that era had them in suits. Some of them with big bloody bullet holes - courtesy of other "gentlemen" in suits. :D

elfmanvt07
01-26-2012, 10:22 PM
As to suits making gentlemen out of ruffians? Just about every photo of mobsters from that era had them in suits. Some of them with big bloody bullet holes - courtesy of other "gentlemen" in suits. :D

Maybe I've just watched that Ken Burns thing one too many times.

I guess I REALLY want is a world where it would not be an imposition for a grown man to wear a suit to his job. I don't want modern managers to wear suits. I want modern managers to WANT to wear suits.

corkedbat
01-26-2012, 10:23 PM
My 1 suggestion, and one Ive actually sent to the Reds' FO:

I would LOVE to see a "throwback" day at the ballpark. I want to experience what going to a baseball game in the 20's and 30's was like. This is something I, and 99% of baseball fans, will never have the pleasure of saying we were able to experience. Just imagine, fans being recommended to dress in their Sunday's best, no music over the PA, no digital-3D-in-your-face videos, advertisements, or banner around the stadium. Have an organist (live or recorded) play between innings and during pitcher warm-ups, shut off the scoreboard except for the box score, and have the vendors dress up as well (similar to how the mobile-hot-dog-guy at GABP already does).

I want to experience baseball. Nothing else.

Make it a night game, under the humming lights, where all you can hear is the roar of the crowd, the whiz of a 95MPH fastball,the crack of the bat, and the deafening silence right before the crowd erupts after a game-winning home run.

I present to you, Cincinnati, "Crosley Field Night".




-Matt

I'm all for it! BUT only if they bring back Nickle Beers too! :D

dougdirt
01-26-2012, 10:27 PM
5. All players should be eligible for the draft no matter where they were born. The system as it stands unfairly punishes Americans. Not anymore. Sans Japanese and Cuban born players. The young international guys are getting completely screwed. There is now a "cap" to spend, regardless of how many guys you are going to be signing and that cap is lower than some individual players have signed for in recent years at age 16-17.



6. MLB should negotiate all media contracts and split the revenues equally among all teams. The only revenue differences amongst teams should be ticket sales and concession sales. Ticket sales should be split evenly between both teams that played the game, i.e. when the Reds play the Yankees in New York the two teams split the ticket revenue, and vice versa when the Yankees visit Cincinnati. Of course this will never happen obviously.
This is the best idea I have seen and one I completely support. It is the reason why NFL teams can always be in on all free agents, while about 8 teams in baseball can be.

Caveat Emperor
01-26-2012, 11:52 PM
I'd explore the idea of allowing teams to "franchise tag" one player per year.

Johnny Footstool
01-27-2012, 12:01 AM
Maybe I've just watched that Ken Burns thing one too many times.

I guess I REALLY want is a world where it would not be an imposition for a grown man to wear a suit to his job. I don't want modern managers to wear suits. I want modern managers to WANT to wear suits.

So how long have you worked for Jos. A Bank?

Yachtzee
01-27-2012, 01:30 AM
If you want faster games, the best way is to cut down time between innings, but broadcasters won't like it. It will cut their ad revenue.

WVPacman
01-27-2012, 01:35 AM
Hey this is off topic but I was wanting to know if the redscaravan will be in huntington or charleston today? They were at one of the two places yesterday but I did'nt know it.thanks

elfmanvt07
01-27-2012, 07:31 AM
So how long have you worked for Jos. A Bank?

I do work retail, but a t-shirt is part of my uniform.

RANDY IN INDY
01-27-2012, 08:22 AM
Baseball managers in suits may be the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a long time. Connie Mack was the only manager that I have ever heard of wearing a suit and it never has been the norm. I also could care less what people abroad think about our National pastime.

Eric_the_Red
01-27-2012, 09:17 AM
While suits may be a bit too far, why are the trainers better dressed than the coaches? Why not have the coaches wear team polos and khakis? Surely there has to be some middle ground on the issue.

RANDY IN INDY
01-27-2012, 09:30 AM
I guess it just doesn't bother me. It's baseball.

Roy Tucker
01-27-2012, 09:43 AM
I thought I read where the length of games is decreasing with the decrease in scoring. It peaked at the height of the steroid era.

Some of the grind-it-out ABs start getting to me now. Batters step out, pitchers dawdle around the mound, pitchers and catchers converse, batter peers at the 3B coach, and generally it can take forever for some guy to get a BB. Yankees-Red Sox games are a good example. I hardly watch them any more. Having said that, I don't think there is much that can be done except tell the ump to move things along.

I like managers in uniforms. But I don't like them in team windsuit pullovers that look like they came from Wal-Mart. Wear the uniform like a player does. I like Dusty's wristbands.

Splitting revenue NFL-style would be wonderful but it will never happen.

westofyou
01-27-2012, 10:08 AM
Baseball managers in suits may be the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a long time. Connie Mack was the only manager that I have ever heard of wearing a suit and it never has been the norm. I also could care less what people abroad think about our National pastime.

Geoorge Stalling's and Burt Shotton also wore suits

http://www.lonecadaver.com/09George%20Stallings.jpg

http://www.diamond-replays.com/bbw/1947/images/shotton_rickey.jpg



I like managers in uniforms. But I don't like them in team windsuit pullovers that look like they came from Wal-Mart. Wear the uniform like a player does.

Pete was the first manager to wear the Pullover, in fact at one time the commissioners office came down on him for his sloppy appearance

Johnny Footstool
01-27-2012, 11:07 AM
"Who's that dapper gentleman in the double-breasted Armani standing on the field? Some sort of president or visiting dignitary?"

"He's the third base coach."

remdog
01-27-2012, 11:51 AM
Sorry, but between the toothpicks and the wristbands, Dusty looks stupid.

Of course, I think he is stupid and I hope and pray that after this year he retires back to Sacramento and he can wear all of the wristbands he wants while he mows his lawn.

Rem

remdog
01-27-2012, 11:55 AM
BTW, I wouldn't have a problem with raising the rosters to say, 27 players if the players would give up the DH in the American League.

It would prevent some of these long-term contracts because an American League team thinks they can make a guy a DH once he can't hit or run any more.

Rem

Reds/Flyers Fan
01-27-2012, 01:37 PM
Yes they should. They're professionals, not athletes. Dress like it. I've NEVER understood why managers wear a uniform. No other sport does it. I'm sure someone's going to say that it's something that makes baseball unique. If I started working for a consulting firm where everyone smeared ketchup on their faces before a meeting, we would certainly be viewed as unique, but it somewhat betrays my intent and my pay grade.

It's baseball. Baseball is supposed to be a relaxed, chill sport and is our national pastime - meaning we use it as a way to get away from our daily work life of offices and cubicles and meetings and the like.

And, again, I'll just point out that the thought of sitting at field level in St. Louis or Arlington or Atlanta for an afternoon game in July (where the temperature tops 120 in the shade) in a suit and tie sounds nothing short of hellish.

I'll take it one step further: I think the uppity ups in the private owners boxes at sporting events look ridiculous in their suits. You're at a game with thousands of fans in shorts, jerseys, hats, etc. And then you have the stiffs in their suits. Bleh ... That's why I've always liked Mark Cuban sitting in the stands wearing a Mavs jersey. At least he acts like he enjoys the game.

REDREAD
01-27-2012, 03:51 PM
17. To speed up games:
When a new pitcher is announced he must face at least one batter.
Each team is limited to two pitching changes per inning (barring injury of course, the injured pitcher then can't pitch for at least 5 days to prevent faking of injuries).
Reduce the time between innings.
Limit of one visit to the mound per game and the coach has to be back in the dugout 60 seconds after he steps out of it -- no more long, slow strolls to the mound.
The catcher can only visit the mound once per inning and is limited to 20 seconds.
New pitcher gets only 2 pitches to adjust to mound, he can warm up in the bullpen.

.

There needs to be a limit to the number of times a pitcher can step off the mound and a batter steps out of the batter's box. I really don't enjoy the "stare down, step off, stare more, step out" game on every flipping batter.

I really don't want the DH or expanded rosters (to 27). That would hurt teams like the Reds who have a limited budget to spend on extra players.
Meanwhile, Boston + Phillie would sign 2 more star players since they have the roster space for them. The current system sort of works now because if a big market team signs an unproductive FA, it may not hurt them financially, but it hurts their roster construction.

_Sir_Charles_
01-27-2012, 04:11 PM
Just super-gluing Jonny Gomes' helmet and gloves on would save a good hour over the course of a season. :O)

Rojo
01-27-2012, 06:28 PM
There needs to be a limit to the number of times a pitcher can step off the mound and a batter steps out of the batter's box. I really don't enjoy the "stare down, step off, stare more, step out" game on every flipping batter.

Me either. But someone will chime in with the tired "it's part of the game" bit.

Part of it is that instead of 2-3 guys who can knock it out of the park, every hitter can. I remember some old pitcher saying he used to breeze through hitters 6 through 9, throwing strikes and quick-like.

Roy Tucker
01-27-2012, 06:36 PM
Seems that it used to be there was a 1-2 inning stretch late in the game where action would slow down. Pitchers would take extra time, batters would step out, but it seemed to accentuate the message that it was an important part of the game. But any more, innings 1-9 are all treated that way with grind-it-out ABs.

I just wish there was a baseball way to play the game in a concentrated way, but with tempo. Kind of like the John Wooden "Be quick, but don't hurry".

FlightRick
01-27-2012, 07:02 PM
This is the 3rd or 4th time I've mentioned it here, but if we're talking "game changers," I have a pet concept that involves expanding rosters. But in a very unique way.

Expand rosters to 28 (as an added bonus, I would use this as leverage for getting the players' union to agree to dropping the DH). But on game day, the manager has to name a 25-man roster of eligible players. It amounts to every team having a 3-man "taxi squad" (or whatever you wanna call it), and is similar to the NBA rule where they can have something like 15 men on the roster but only 12 dress for the game. All 28 travel with the team and have full MLB pay/benefits, but only 25 are eligible for any given game.

This would allow a manager to craft at 25-man roster based on that day's specific situation: swapping out a utility player based on match-ups or handedness, getting a fresh arm in the bullpen if they've been taxed lately, all kinds of stuff. And it goes without saying that this would be a HUGE help in dealing with day-to-day injuries where a guy is not gonna be out for 15 days, but the team would rather not be short-handed for a week. [Especially if you're the Reds, and Doc Kremcheck pulls the ol' "it's just a sprain, he'll be back in 2 days" act where it eventually turns out to be a torn ACL.]

When my friends and I hatched the scheme, we also came up with the necessary rules and regulations to make sure the "taxi squad" wasn't misused, but I won't waste time recounting all of them now, unless anyone is really interested. Suffice to say that measures would be in place so that you couldn't place SP on the 3-man squad in between starts, and you had clear-cut rules for handling transactions switching players among the eligible roster/reserve roster/minor leagues/disabled list (including a corresponding increase in the 40-man roster). We even proposed that any game that enters the 12th inning would automatically "unlock" the taxi squad for that game (though that idea was far from unanimously agreed upon).

Anyhoo, that's my pitch. Personally, I don't think baseball needs that much "fixing" in terms of the on-field game itself, but something like this that's only an incremental/marginal change (affecting a spot starter or a mop-up reliever or the last guy or two at the end of the bench) is something I can go for, given the possible benefits (dropping the DH, resting tired/partly-injured players without going shorthanded, etc.)....


Rick

FlightRick
01-27-2012, 07:03 PM
Whoops. Double post.

LegallyMinded
01-27-2012, 07:49 PM
This is the 3rd or 4th time I've mentioned it here, but if we're talking "game changers," I have a pet concept that involves expanding rosters. But in a very unique way.

Expand rosters to 28 (as an added bonus, I would use this as leverage for getting the players' union to agree to dropping the DH). But on game day, the manager has to name a 25-man roster of eligible players. It amounts to every team having a 3-man "taxi squad" (or whatever you wanna call it), and is similar to the NBA rule where they can have something like 15 men on the roster but only 12 dress for the game. All 28 travel with the team and have full MLB pay/benefits, but only 25 are eligible for any given game.



Sounds like a very cool idea. It seems like it would add a great element of strategy regarding who to dress for a given game, and it would give us something else to criticize Dusty about (he's not even dressing Heisey today?) :)

I wonder how it would affect younger players, though: Would there be a temptation to call up a player before he's really ready for the majors, just so you have an extra relief pitcher or extra utility guy hanging around for the occasional day he's needed? It seems like an imprudent GM could interrupt the development of younger players by misusing the extra spots, and I'd love to see how different teams would handle the situation.

Caveman Techie
01-27-2012, 08:27 PM
I really like the idea of shortening the game, but the way I would do it is by enforcing the current rule on the book. After a pitch the pitcher has 12 seconds (I think) to deliver the next pitch. If the batter is the one holding things up the umpire calls for time, then calls a strike on the batter, if it's the pitcher the umpire would call a ball.

MikeThierry
01-27-2012, 10:32 PM
Expand rosters to 28 (as an added bonus, I would use this as leverage for getting the players' union to agree to dropping the DH). But on game day, the manager has to name a 25-man roster of eligible players. It amounts to every team having a 3-man "taxi squad" (or whatever you wanna call it), and is similar to the NBA rule where they can have something like 15 men on the roster but only 12 dress for the game. All 28 travel with the team and have full MLB pay/benefits, but only 25 are eligible for any given game.

This is an excellent idea. They do the same thing in the NHL. Usually in that sport, the enforcer is kind of the "flex guy" on the roster. The coach may dress him if he feels it's going to be a physical game and they need a guy who can knock some heads around if things get out of control. I could see a situation in baseball where if Team A is facing Team B and Team B has a lot of left handed batters, Team A dresses is left handed relief and sends a righty to press box for a game or a series.