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ShaySongz
02-06-2012, 12:57 PM
If we can some how get avg 280 15-20hr 75rbi from Meseroco and avg 265 15hr 70 RBIs from Cozart we should make up for the lack of production in left field if things don't work out. What you think?

Big Red Hoss
02-06-2012, 01:08 PM
Im not sure we need that much run production but it would make for a potent offense if we did get that. Im not sure you will see Mes Touch those numbers as he will spilt alot of time with Hanningan. Now if hannigan and Mes Put up 100 rbis together then we in the making for a championship team.

ShaySongz
02-06-2012, 01:15 PM
I hope Mez is the type of catcher that can play every game against left handers and Righties..if he plays well has to play 75% percent of the time...heck stubbs plays almost every game,I know he not that bad

jhu1321
02-06-2012, 01:20 PM
I think both of those expectations are a bit much.

I look for Cozart at .260/10/50

.....and Mes at .260/15/65

jhu1321
02-06-2012, 01:21 PM
And for the record, I think Hannigan is the better catcher in 2012.

Big Red Hoss
02-06-2012, 01:38 PM
And for the record, I think Hannigan is the better catcher in 2012.

I will agree with that. It will take Mes sometime to learn how to call the mlb level.Hannigan has the time and calls a great game. Im not sure we need the catchers to produce at the plate as much as behind it.

R_Webb18
02-06-2012, 01:44 PM
I think both of those expectations are a bit much.

I look for Cozart at .260/10/50

.....and Mes at .260/15/65

this makes more sense imo

alett12
02-06-2012, 03:09 PM
I think they will both finish in the top five in ROY due to the fact they both play premium positions and I hope to see them both hitting over .270 with 15HR and 75 RBIs

RedsfaninMT
02-06-2012, 03:20 PM
I think they will both finish in the top five in ROY due to the fact they both play premium positions and I hope to see them both hitting over .270 with 15HR and 75 RBIs

The beauty of sports is that you never truly know how things will turn out. I love the Reds and am quite optimistic about the season. I will be amazed if both hit over .270. If they do, the road to the pennant will be whole lot easier than I am thinking it will be. Mesoraco showed good power, but nothing to make me think .270 will be reached. As for Cozart, he hit well in his brief appearance, but in his minor league numbers don't make me confident he will hit .270 in the Bigs either. We shall see.

brad1176
02-06-2012, 04:47 PM
I'm not expecting that much out of Mes at the plate, .230-.250 range, he'll be concentrating more on the defensive side of things. Cozart I suspect will be over .270.

DGullett35
02-06-2012, 07:15 PM
I just hope defensively Mes really proves hes worthy to be up with the big club. The bat I'm not really worried about. Cozart should bat around .260-.275 with 15 HR and 60 rbi. Hopefully anyways. I think that would be pretty good numbers. Who knows one or both may surprise the heck outta us.

[deleted]
02-07-2012, 03:12 AM
I don't really think it's out of the question to see Mes around .260/.320/.450, though I'd predict something closer to .250 average with a .420 slugging.

Cozart will probably post a similar slash, maybe a little less.

Both could easily hit between 10-15 homeruns, even with a split in playing time at catcher.

alett12
02-07-2012, 09:35 AM
Mesoraco showed the ability to hit well for contact in the minors, i excpect the same thing in the majors.

swaisuc
02-09-2012, 08:50 AM
If we can some how get avg 280 15-20hr 75rbi from Meseroco and avg 265 15hr 70 RBIs from Cozart we should make up for the lack of production in left field if things don't work out. What you think?

I'm guessing Mes is not going to play nearly enough for those numbers. I think he will have good splits, but be a part time player. I will say .262/12HR/46RBI.

Cozart, I feel pretty much the opposite. I'm not completely sold on his bat and even less sold on his power. I think he will be a decent every day SS though, so I'll give him .267/9HR/53RBI

Alpha Zero
02-09-2012, 08:59 AM
I'd expect something like a .260/.330/.410 line from Mesoraco sounds reasonable. It'd be great if he outperformed that, but I think that's about what we'll get out of him.

Cozart is a bit more difficult for me to peg. I don't think he'll walk very much, but he'll show some power while hitting for decent average. I'll go with a line of .270/.300/.400 for Cozart. Couple that with some strong defense, and I'll take that from my SS.

alett12
02-09-2012, 12:30 PM
I'm just basing off of what i've seen from his minor league numbers. I know those numbers don't always translate into what a guy can do at the major league level but thats just my opinion.

brad1176
02-09-2012, 03:02 PM
Mes will be so consumed with learning the catcher position at the MLB level that I don't expect much from his bat.

alett12
02-09-2012, 03:06 PM
I think batting comes more naturally to him which is odd considering hitting a baseball is statistically one of the hardest things in the world to do.

joshua
02-10-2012, 12:27 AM
I expect them both to do decent. Above .250 BA, around .300 OBP.

What I want is for both of them to be better at the end of the season than they were at the beginning. The ceiling for both of them this year is a trickier question: Cozart batting .265 and getting a gold glove. Mes's is probably .280 ba and around 20 homers.

alett12
02-10-2012, 02:39 PM
I expect them both to do decent. Above .250 BA, around .300 OBP.

What I want is for both of them to be better at the end of the season than they were at the beginning. The ceiling for both of them this year is a trickier question: Cozart batting .265 and getting a gold glove. Mes's is probably .280 ba and around 20 homers.

That is true they need to finish better than they end. I feel like if they can stay healthy then they could be stars on the reds, maybe not across baseball, but for the reds for years to come and it never hurts to have two guys who have their potential at thier age looking like they are going to explode onto the scene

Fireball
02-13-2012, 09:46 AM
I don't expect a ton out of Cozart, but based on his stint last season, I have to say that my hopes are high. Quite honestly, all he really has to do is be better than Janish and Renteria, which is not asking much. I think I'd be very satisfied with .260/.310/.400 and 10 bombs out of him, but with him batting #2 and Joey behind him, I wouldn't be shocked if he approaches .290/.340/.450 and 20 HR.

On Mesoraco, I don't think we'll get a ton of average / on-base out of him. He see him batting around .240 this year with some power, something like .240/.295/.455. Splitting playing time with Hanigan, he could get around 15 HR.