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camisadelgolf
02-11-2012, 05:15 PM
Former Red John Riedling gives some enlightening instruction on how to throw an eephus pitch. Enjoy!
Baseball Pitching : How to Throw an Eephus Pitch - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2T4NAJQMmE)

Spitball
02-11-2012, 05:35 PM
On a related note, here is Steve Hamilton throwing his Folly Floater twice to Tony Horton. This is an entertaining clip but note Horton crawl into the dugout. Everyone thought he was joking around, but he was actually having a nervous breakdown. He would never play baseball again.

Apparently, his dad was a nightmare Baseball Dad who pushed his son way too hard.

Folly Floater: Hamilton vs Horton - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFvp7kMraAw)

MikeThierry
02-11-2012, 06:07 PM
Spit, I saw this clip a year or so ago and did some quick online research on Horton. You are right. He was going through a breakdown at that point and this was an embarrassing moment to him. Never really recovered.

marcshoe
02-11-2012, 07:24 PM
Interesting that this shows up now. I just speculated yesterday that the Reds minor leaguer formerly known as Jonathan Correa is really Pascual Perez.

chicoruiz
02-11-2012, 07:28 PM
As I recall, the main problem with my brief baseball career was that I couldn't throw anything BUT an eephus pitch...

Vottomatic
02-11-2012, 08:18 PM
I've searched for years of that clip of Pascual Perez (Montreal) throwing that sucker slowdown pitch to strike someone out. Don't remember who was at the plate, but they weren't too happy.

BoydsOfSummer
02-11-2012, 08:23 PM
As I recall, the main problem with my brief baseball career was that I couldn't throw anything BUT an eephus pitch...


Haha...ditto.:laugh:

mth123
02-11-2012, 08:27 PM
My favorite Eephus pitch moment is Tony Perez hitting a HR off of Bill Lee on an Eephus pitch n the 1975 series. IIRC, it was in game 7 and the Reds were down 3-0 at the time and Perez HR brought them back to 3-2 and everyone knew they were going to win from there.

I'd argue that that HR was the single most important hit in Reds' history.

Vottomatic
02-12-2012, 09:35 AM
Former Red John Riedling gives some enlightening instruction on how to throw an eephus pitch. Enjoy!
Baseball Pitching : How to Throw an Eephus Pitch - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2T4NAJQMmE)

In construction, they have EIFS which we call "Eefus". It stands for Exterior Insulated Finish System, also known as the foam stucco finish you see on many buildings nowadays.

marcshoe
02-12-2012, 05:37 PM
On a related note, here is Steve Hamilton throwing his Folly Floater twice to Tony Horton. This is an entertaining clip but note Horton crawl into the dugout. Everyone thought he was joking around, but he was actually having a nervous breakdown. He would never play baseball again.

Apparently, his dad was a nightmare Baseball Dad who pushed his son way too hard.

Folly Floater: Hamilton vs Horton - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFvp7kMraAw)

I hadn't heard of this, so I did a quick search. He played a couple of more months, then slit his wrists. He survived.

Here's where I found it. A Deadspin article with a little language (not the worst I've seen, but not board-appropriate. (http://deadspin.com/5548412/taunting-tony-horton-the-day-after-he-slit-his-wrists-a-cleveland-fan-repents)

RedsBaron
02-12-2012, 07:24 PM
My favorite Eephus pitch moment is Tony Perez hitting a HR off of Bill Lee on an Eephus pitch n the 1975 series. IIRC, it was in game 7 and the Reds were down 3-0 at the time and Perez HR brought them back to 3-2 and everyone knew they were going to win from there.

I'd argue that that HR was the single most important hit in Reds' history.

Yep. If Perez doesn't hit that HR the Reds probably lose the Series.
The Reds had so much talent maybe they still win the 1976 World Series, but the Reds by then would have really been burdened with the reputation of having lost 3 World Series and not being able to win "the big one." Even if they had won in '76 in the end the Big Red Machine would have had only a single world championship to its credit.

Spitball
02-12-2012, 11:54 PM
I hadn't heard of this, so I did a quick search. He played a couple of more months, then slit his wrists. He survived.

Here's where I found it. A Deadspin article with a little language (not the worst I've seen, but not board-appropriate. (http://deadspin.com/5548412/taunting-tony-horton-the-day-after-he-slit-his-wrists-a-cleveland-fan-repents)

Great article. Thanks, Tixie. I was in about fifth grade and living in the Boston area when he first arrived in the big leagues. The Red Sox also had another Tony in Tony Conigliaro (another sad story) who had arrived as a teenager and hit 24 homeruns. At the time, I was excited about having two Tonys. I was disappointed when he was traded to Cleveland despite George Scott's hot start as a rookie first baseman with the World Series bound 1967 Red Sox.

Apparently, his father had a lot to do with his problems. I think this is important since many of us work with young players and might take note of such parental behavior.


There was a research presentation on Horton five years ago at the annual SABR conference that discussed Horton and his life. He apparently had the ultimate sports bully father from hell who put a tremendous amount of pressure on his son at all times to work at baseball. Horton went into the sport not by choice but by compulsion. One of the audience members at the presentation was a former college friend of Horton, who verified that his dad was a nightmare.

Here is the whole article:

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/blog_article/15000-days-since-murcers-biggest-day-and-tony-hortons-declining-mental-heal/