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Revering4Blue
02-11-2012, 08:16 PM
I wasn't particularly a fan of her music. Nevertheless, this is obviously sad news.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/obit/story/2012-02-11/whitney-houston/53053070/1

Eric_the_Red
02-11-2012, 08:31 PM
Tragic...reminiscent of the Amy Winehouse story. Talent, but overcome by addiction.

Here is the performance that I always think of when I hear her name:

Whitney Houston sings the National Anthem -- Star Spangled Banner - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1QmeEdFOSc)

RANDY IN INDY
02-11-2012, 08:35 PM
Drugs ruin lives. So sad. Wonderful voice, beautiful girl.

CySeymour
02-11-2012, 08:42 PM
Curious all we are getting right now is just the report from her publicist, and absolutely no details at all.

Red Swagger
02-11-2012, 09:02 PM
Just like Amy Winehouse, the Illuminati killed her. Look it yourself. YouTube. Winehouse wasn't even drinking or doing drugs for 2 weeks prior to her death. look it up. Also look up, "the music industry exposed"... It will blow your mind.. Don't you think it is weird they never release information, then it consists of alcohol and drug use? Every time. Seriously, go look for yourself before you make some idiotic comment

dougdirt
02-11-2012, 09:20 PM
Just like Amy Winehouse, the Illuminati killed her. Look it yourself. YouTube. Winehouse wasn't even drinking or doing drugs for 2 weeks prior to her death. look it up. Also look up, "the music industry exposed"... It will blow your mind.. Don't you think it is weird they never release information, then it consists of alcohol and drug use? Every time. Seriously, go look for yourself before you make some idiotic comment

Is this a serious comment?

Spitball
02-11-2012, 09:26 PM
This is a sad news. She was very talented and beautiful, but drugs do indeed ruin lives.

Ohayou
02-11-2012, 09:30 PM
They said on CNN she had been bleeding from her vocal chords, there's live coverage.

Larry Schuler
02-11-2012, 10:02 PM
I don't know if this has already been discussed but I think it is pretty clear the Illumanati did it.

oneupper
02-11-2012, 10:17 PM
There was some controversy concerning Whitney, her Step mother and her father's inheritance. The rumor was that Whitney was not doing well financially.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/trialandheirs/2012/01/30/whitney-houston-denies-shes-broke-wins-lawsuit-vs-step-mom/

Roy Tucker
02-11-2012, 10:37 PM
Very sad news. Just a phenomenal voice and a stupendous talent.

And an utter waste of those things. Sad, just sad. I'm really sorry to hear of this.

goreds2
02-11-2012, 11:54 PM
I remember her big time from the 1980's growing up. RIP

Pete4prez
02-11-2012, 11:57 PM
Rest in Peace, Whitney.

Johnny Footstool
02-12-2012, 02:34 AM
Kevin Costner clearly fell asleep at the wheel.

Phhhl
02-12-2012, 02:50 AM
Kevin Costner clearly fell asleep at the wheel.

Really? Is it joke time in the peanut gallery?

You don't know what you got until it's gone. At the peak of her career, Whitney Houston's voice was Ty Cobb's tenacity, Babe Ruth's pinache and Hank Aaron's power all wrapped up in a candy foil. At one time this woman ruled the world.

And now, all is lost. It is exasperating. So sad.

Johnny Footstool
02-12-2012, 03:04 AM
It's sad in that the human condition allows someone with so much talent, someone who achieved so much success, to succumb to what was most likely a drug problem. Personally, I have no sympathy for someone who throws away a lifetime's worth of hard work (developing a singing voice like that is hard, hard work) because of a drug addiction.

MWM
02-12-2012, 03:05 AM
This is truly sad. Whitney Houston is one of the rare instances where her talent matched her stardom. She might be the greatest female vocalist in the history of popular music.

Redsfaithful
02-12-2012, 10:23 AM
Crazy to think she might have had money issues. She had to have made $50-100 million, in her career, at a minimum, and I'm guessing I'm undershooting the real number.

Larkin Fan
02-12-2012, 11:03 AM
Truly sad. She was a phenomenal talent that essentially threw everything away by getting involved with drugs. Such a waste.

Yachtzee
02-12-2012, 11:43 AM
I don't know if she started doing drugs before or after meeting Bobby Brown, but I remember seeing an interview a few years after they got married and thinking, "that woman has become a whole bucket full of crazy."

sonny
02-12-2012, 01:44 PM
I don't know if this has already been discussed but I think it is pretty clear the Illumanati did it.

Holy crap that's funny

Dom Heffner
02-12-2012, 02:25 PM
Really? Is it joke time in the peanut gallery?

You don't know what you got until it's gone. At the peak of her career, Whitney Houston's voice was Ty Cobb's tenacity, Babe Ruth's pinache and Hank Aaron's power all wrapped up in a candy foil. At one time this woman ruled the world.

And now, all is lost. It is exasperating. So sad.

Whitney was lost long ago, friend. Saying that we lost her today is like saying we missed out on a bunch of things to come from Marlon Brando when he died.

It was a great voice. Was, a long time ago. And that's true dead or alive.

The Illuminati post is comical if nothing else for stating she hadn't been under the influence the past few weeks. That's the joke of the thread.

Sad, tragic, devastating. Drugs get hold and won't let go.

Chip R
02-12-2012, 02:53 PM
Just like Amy Winehouse, the Illuminati killed her. Look it yourself. YouTube. Winehouse wasn't even drinking or doing drugs for 2 weeks prior to her death. look it up. Also look up, "the music industry exposed"... It will blow your mind.. Don't you think it is weird they never release information, then it consists of alcohol and drug use? Every time. Seriously, go look for yourself before you make some idiotic comment

Don't be silly. It was obviously the Pentavirate that did it.

Mutaman
02-12-2012, 03:14 PM
This is truly sad. Whitney Houston is one of the rare instances where her talent matched her stardom. She might be the greatest female vocalist in the history of popular music.

I know reasonable people can disagree, but you're really putting Whitney Houston in the same class as Aretha or Billie Holiday?

westofyou
02-12-2012, 03:30 PM
I know reasonable people can disagree, but you're really putting Whitney Houston in the same class as Aretha or Billie Holiday?

R-E-S-P-E-C-T

The Operator
02-12-2012, 03:48 PM
R-E-S-P-E-C-TIt's actually R-E-S-P-SPEE-TEE.

Find out what it means to me!

The Office: Michael Scott - respect find out what it means to me - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=639MNEA1vAI)

marcshoe
02-12-2012, 04:42 PM
Week before last I was talking to a kid about how talentless many of the "artists" being played on the radio were (I know, but Lil Wayne does this to me) when he played some old Whitney Houston. I said something about how talented she used to be and he insisted that she still was a great singer. I didn't push it; he was a kid. I just mentioned that once she was one of the best.

Now this, on the eve of the Grammys. I hope the timing is coincidental.

Yachtzee
02-12-2012, 05:07 PM
Don't be silly. It was obviously the Pentavirate that did it.

Bobby Brown and Bob Boone, same first name, same initials. Coincidence? I think not,

JaxRed
02-12-2012, 05:57 PM
I know reasonable people can disagree, but you're really putting Whitney Houston in the same class as Aretha or Billie Holiday?

I don't put Aretha or Billie Holiday in Whitney' class......

top6
02-12-2012, 09:33 PM
That national anthem is so amazing. It's one of the hardest songs to sing, and it's almost like she's mocking it as she goes through it (mocking the challenge, not the sentiment), she's just so relaxed and confident and just singing it so perfectly.

Sad.

Yachtzee
02-12-2012, 09:48 PM
Who can forget the heartfelt tribute to Whitney by Mr. Randy Watson? He played Joe the Policeman in the "What's Goin' Down" episode of "That's My Mama."

Sexual Chocolate! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHRERLEM2eE)

MWM
02-12-2012, 10:08 PM
I don't put Aretha or Billie Holiday in Whitney' class......

Agreed. Whitney's pure vocal ability was unmatched in the history of popular music.

Chip R
02-12-2012, 10:16 PM
Who can forget the heartfelt tribute to Whitney by Mr. Randy Watson? He played Joe the Policeman in the "What's Goin' Down" episode of "That's My Mama."

Sexual Chocolate! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHRERLEM2eE)

That boy's good!

Johnny Footstool
02-13-2012, 12:26 AM
That boy's good!

Good 'n' terrible.

Mutaman
02-13-2012, 02:15 AM
Agreed. Whitney's pure vocal ability was unmatched in the history of popular music.

Well if that's the criteria we're using, Freddie Mercury is a greater pop singer than Elvis, Sinatra or Crosby. And Minnie Riperton is the greatest female singer.

Vocal ability is only one facet of being a great pop singer. See Louis Armstrong, Johnny Cash, Van Morrison, James Brown, or Otis Redding.

Robert Plant has great vocal ability, is he a greater singer than Marvin Gaye? Of course not.

bucksfan2
02-13-2012, 08:32 AM
Whitney was lost long ago, friend. Saying that we lost her today is like saying we missed out on a bunch of things to come from Marlon Brando when he died.

It was a great voice. Was, a long time ago. And that's true dead or alive.


Sad, tragic, devastating. Drugs get hold and won't let go.

This got me thinking. She really had just been a name and memories for the better part of a decade. When was the last time she did anything vocally that would make you stop and turn your head?

IslandRed
02-13-2012, 10:13 AM
Well if that's the criteria we're using, Freddie Mercury is a greater pop singer than Elvis, Sinatra or Crosby. And Minnie Riperton is the greatest female singer.

Vocal ability is only one facet of being a great pop singer. See Louis Armstrong, Johnny Cash, Van Morrison, James Brown, or Otis Redding.

Robert Plant has great vocal ability, is he a greater singer than Marvin Gaye? Of course not.

True enough, but vocal range is also only one facet of vocal ability.

OldRightHander
02-13-2012, 05:42 PM
True enough, but vocal range is also only one facet of vocal ability.

An important thing is what you sound like within your range, not just what that range is.

Not using anyone else as an example, I have a range of a couple octaves, but the top note is middle C. I can occasionally hit a D, but it sounds strained and not really that natural. There's not a whole lot of music out there written near the bottom of my range, so even though I can hit those notes, what's the point? There's about an octave and a half where I'm pretty comfortable and that I can actually use frequently, but very little music out there requires a vocalist to use much more than that unless a singer just decides to go there because he/she can. I just focus on having good pitch within my given range and sounding as good as I can.

Sure, Whitney was talented vocally and I enjoyed hearing her voice, but there are other artists I enjoy listening to more who might not have the range or vocal talent she had. There is a lot of subjectivity to music and for a lot of people what makes us connect to a song is often more than just the skill of the performer. So who is more talented, Whitney or Aretha? Take your pick. I happen to prefer Aretha over Whitney. I enjoy her music more, and isn't that the whole point of it anyway?

Dom Heffner
02-13-2012, 08:13 PM
Well if that's the criteria we're using, Freddie Mercury is a greater pop singer than Elvis, Sinatra or Crosby. And Minnie Riperton is the greatest female singer.

Vocal ability is only one facet of being a great pop singer. See Louis Armstrong, Johnny Cash, Van Morrison, James Brown, or Otis Redding.

Robert Plant has great vocal ability, is he a greater singer than Marvin Gaye? Of course not.

Robert Plant or Marvin Gaye?

Robert Plant is one of the great voices of rock- I mean, Led Zeppelin is a religious experience. I get the point you are making, I don't think Plant belongs in any type of comparison like that.

That's like making someone pick between Twix and Snickers.

Zeppelin is right there with the greatest ever...Ugh, ugh, ugh, Robert Plant is not the lesser of any equation lol....

Dom Heffner
02-13-2012, 08:18 PM
Sure, Whitney was talented vocally and I enjoyed hearing her voice, but there are other artists I enjoy listening to more who might not have the range or vocal talent she had. There is a lot of subjectivity to music and for a lot of people what makes us connect to a song is often more than just the skill of the performer. So who is more talented, Whitney or Aretha? Take your pick. I happen to prefer Aretha over Whitney. I enjoy her music more, and isn't that the whole point of it anyway?

This is the truth.

I can recognize Mozart is better than Billy Joel, but I would rather listen to the latter, to be honest.

Sea Ray
02-14-2012, 08:41 AM
I don't know how you separate the best of the best singers. They're all so great but my comparison to Whitney would be Judy Garland and it seems that they also fought similar demons including Rx drugs, alcohol and bad marriages. Those demons likely led to their early demise in their 40s. Lots of parallels to be drawn.

Give me that much talent and money and I'll live a very happy life...:)

Mutaman
02-14-2012, 04:33 PM
Robert Plant or Marvin Gaye?

Robert Plant is one of the great voices of rock- I mean, Led Zeppelin is a religious experience. I get the point you are making, I don't think Plant belongs in any type of comparison like that.

That's like making someone pick between Twix and Snickers.

Zeppelin is right there with the greatest ever...Ugh, ugh, ugh, Robert Plant is not the lesser of any equation lol....

Plant is a great voice, just my point. But if you want to hear a great singer, renew you experience with "I heard it through the Grapevine".

Its more like picking between a Reggie Bar and a Baby Ruth. ( Or "What's Going On" and "Whole Lotta Love".)

Roy Tucker
02-14-2012, 04:43 PM
I think Whitney in her prime was really one of the greatest ever. But she is also the Sandy Koufax of singing with a brilliant but short prime. Personal demons saw to that.

But she really had it all. The voice, the range, the phrasing, being able to emote, plus she was a great on stage and made it all look so effortless. That was the part that got me. She made it look so easy but listening to her was just jaw-dropping great. Plus she was gorgeous and so fresh.

Yachtzee
02-14-2012, 05:07 PM
Honestly, I was never a fan of Whitney's music. I recognize her great vocal talent, but I just don't like the style she promoted of loud diva notes and turning single syllable words into multi-note runs just to show of her range. While she could pull it off, so many that attempt to follow in her footsteps just end up making a 3 minute song last 6 or more from all the vocal gymnastics. I see the Whitney wannabes on American Idol every year and watch the judges fawn all over them, only to have them fade back into obscurity once the season's over.

As a non-Whitney example of this, I would compare the song "Superstar" as sung by The Carpenters and then by Luther Vandross. The Carpenters' version is a very bittersweet, heartfelt rendition, a beautiful song really, without a lot of vocal gymnastics. Luther Vandross' version is just Luther singing loud and dropping in a bunch of vocal runs, causing the song to lose all the emotional impact of the original.

For the record, I think it's the same with bands that feel that, when they play live, every song has to have a guitar solo, a drum solo, a keyboard solo, a horn solo, ad nauseum. I get it, you're talented musicians. No need to show it every song. In fact, I think sometimes singers and musicians do that kind of stuff to hide the fact that the song itself isn't all that great.

MWM
02-14-2012, 07:38 PM
I really dislike that style of singing too, Yachtzee. It ruins a lot of otherwise great songs and masks a lot of really good voices when they try to sing that way. My wife and I always call it "wailing" instead of singing. But I don't remember Whitney ever singing that way much. She was always more of a pure singer I thought. I think Mariah might be more to blame than Whitney for that trend. That was her MO for sure.

Dom Heffner
02-14-2012, 08:49 PM
Plant is a great voice, just my point. But if you want to hear a great singer, renew you experience with "I heard it through the Grapevine".

Its more like picking between a Reggie Bar and a Baby Ruth. ( Or "What's Going On" and "Whole Lotta Love".)

Gosh, we'll have to agree to disagree.

There really isn't much better than Zeppelin to me. I can't think of many better singers on the male side than Plant.

doveduff
02-15-2012, 10:12 PM
Sad ending to a hard life. So much beauty and talent. She touched the lives of countless people, though, with her stunningly beautiful voice.