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WVRed
03-06-2012, 09:22 PM
The Indianapolis Colts and redsfanmia are on the clock. Since all teams are filled, feel free to start.

Remember, 12 hours between picks. If need be, use the private messaging system to let others know when their pick is up.


Indianapolis (2-14) redsfanmia- Andrew Luck (QB-Stanford)
St. Louis (2-14) MikeThierry
Minnesota (3-13) schmidty69
Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck
Tampa Bay (4-12) Caveat Emperor
Washington (5-11) Gallen5862
Jacksonville (5-11) JaxRed
Miami (6-10) chicoruiz
Carolina (6-10) sonny
Buffalo (6-10) ervinsm84
Kansas City (7-9) SidneySlicker
Seattle (7-9) Vottofan54
Arizona (8-8) Buckeye33
Dallas (8-8) NJReds
Philadelphia (8-8) HotCorner
New York Jets (8-8) KoryMac
Cincinnati - from Oakland (8-8) HotCorner
San Diego (8-8) izzy's dad
Chicago (8-8) izzy's dad
Tennessee (9-7) schmidty622
Cincinnati* (9-7) HotCorner
Cleveland - from Atlanta* (10-6) LoganBuck
Detroit* (10-6) cincy09
Pittsburgh* (12-4) Mario-Rijo
Denver* (8-8) Nathan
Houston* (10-6) Ohayou
New England - from New Orleans* (13-3) -WVRed
Green Bay* (15-1) Mutaman
Baltimore* (12-4) WVRed
San Francisco* (13-3) Ohayou
New England* (13-3) - WVRed
New York Giants* (9-7) Puffy

New Orleans Saints-Buckeye33
Oakland Raiders-Vottofan54
Atlanta Falcons - Mario Rijo

redsfanmia
03-06-2012, 09:48 PM
With the first selection in the 2012 draft the Indianapolis Colts select.....wait for it.....Andrew Luck quarterback Stanford. I just hope he is half the quarterback Peyton Manning was for the franchise.

MikeThierry
03-06-2012, 11:15 PM
Rams select Justin Blackmon-WR Oklahoma State University. I would have picked Matt Kalil but I fully expect the Rams to trade down. Blackmon seems the most logical for them anyway. As a Rams fan, I pray to god the Rams take Blackmon, lol.

schmidty622
03-07-2012, 08:10 AM
With the third pick in the 2012 Redszone Mock Draft, The Minnesota Vikings select Matt Kalil, OT, USC.

I hate to do this because it lets RG3 fall to the Browns, but I think the Vikings are high enough on Ponder to pass on Robert Griffin in order to get the best tackle prospect in this year's draft. Had Blackmon been here he would have been the pick here for me, as I think the Vikings would have finally found the big time WR to pair with Harvin and support Ponder and Peterson.

HotCorner
03-07-2012, 09:14 AM
ROUND 1

1. Indianapolis (2-14) redsfanmia - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. St. Louis (2-14) MikeThierry - Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St.
3. Minnesota (3-13) schmidty622 - Matt Kalil, OT, USC
4. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck
5. Tampa Bay (4-12) Caveat Emperor
6. Washington (5-11) Gallen5862
7. Jacksonville (5-11) JaxRed
8. Miami (6-10) chicoruiz
9. Carolina (6-10) sonny
10 .Buffalo (6-10) ervinsm84
11. Kansas City (7-9) SidneySlicker
12. Seattle (7-9) Vottofan54
13. Arizona (8-8) Buckeye33
14. Dallas (8-8) NJReds
15. Philadelphia (8-8) HotCorner
16. New York Jets (8-8) KoryMac
17. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner
18. San Diego (8-8) izzy's dad
19. Chicago (8-8) izzy's dad
20. Tennessee (9-7) schmidty622
21. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner
22. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck
23. Detroit (10-6) cincy09
24. Pittsburgh (12-4) Mario-Rijo
25. Denver (8-8) Nathan
26. Houston (10-6) Ohayou
27. New England (13-3) -WVRed
28. Green Bay (15-1) Mutaman
29. Baltimore (12-4) WVRed
30. San Francisco (13-3) Ohayou
31. New England (13-3) - WVRed
32. New York Giants (9-7) Puffy

LoganBuck
03-07-2012, 01:04 PM
With the fourth pick in the first round the Cleveland Browns dance a jig, and do the Riverdance on the way to the podium to turn in their selection.

QB, Robert Griffin III of Baylor
http://tommeltonscouting.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/robert-griffin.jpg

Cleveland now has their QB of the future. Cleveland fans now can have four months worth of chest puffing arguments with Bengals and Steelers fans, before the crushing reality sets in that they still have a long way to go.

Caveat Emperor
03-07-2012, 09:10 PM
With the FIFTH pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS select:

MORRIS CLAIBORNE -- CB -- LOUISIANA STATE UNIVERSITY

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FTZm5aCtYG8/TtWIpw_4etI/AAAAAAAAAHg/599XCrB5UXI/s1600/4a830_morris-claiborne-p1.jpg

Tampa Bay needs help everywhere on the defense, and Morris Claiborne represents both the best player available on the board and also one of the best "fits" for the team.

New head coach Greg Schiano has stated he will be playing a more attacking style of defense (as opposed to the more traditional Tampa-2 the team has been known for) -- a philosophy that will undoubtedly leave DBs matched up one-on-one with receivers from time to time. Claiborne will be a tremendous team asset in a division that sees them face Cam Newton, Drew Brees, and Matt Ryan 2 times each per season, and on a defense that may be without the services of perennial pro-bowler Ronde Barber (retirement) and Aquib Talib (pending felony conviction).

Gallen5862
03-07-2012, 10:06 PM
With the 6th pick the Washington Redskins select Trent Richardson, Running Back, Alabama

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php

The Browns are one of the favorites to trade up to #2 for Baylor QB Robert Griffin III, which would be the best move the franchise has made since they re-entered the league more than a decade ago. There have been reports that Cleveland isn’t the favorite because they are hesitant to pay the exorbitant price, but it’s impossible to overpay for a franchise quarterback. If the Browns are unable to get a deal done their options at #4 aren’t all that enticing. Alabama RB Trent Richardson would make the most sense since Peyton Hillis is a free agent, but in this day and age can a team really justify taking a running back so early when history clearly shows that productive runners can be found later on? Richardson may be the exception to the rule though as he is the best prospect to come along at the position since Adrian Peterson. A true workhorse, Richardson is a well-rounded player who can run over linebackers or run away from defensive backs while also excelling as a pass catcher and blocker. Most seem to agree that Richardson is one of the five most talented prospects in this class, but if he gets past the Browns and Buccaneers there is no telling how far he may slide. In many ways Richardson will serve as a litmus test for how elite running back prospects are handled in the modern NFL Draft. Cleveland is also desperate for a playmaker in the passing game so Oklahoma St. WR Justin Blackmon would be a strong possibility as well. Other options include L.S.U. CB Morris Claiborne or North Carolina DE Quinton Coples, but it would be in the Browns best interests to do what it takes to land “RG3”. It won't be cheap, but few worthwhile things are.

HotCorner
03-07-2012, 10:13 PM
ROUND 1

1. Indianapolis (2-14) redsfanmia - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. St. Louis (2-14) MikeThierry - Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St.
3. Minnesota (3-13) schmidty622 - Matt Kalil, OT, USC
4. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck - Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
5. Tampa Bay (4-12) Caveat Emperor - Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
6. Washington (5-11) Gallen5862 - Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
7. Jacksonville (5-11) JaxRed
8. Miami (6-10) chicoruiz
9. Carolina (6-10) sonny
10 .Buffalo (6-10) ervinsm84
11. Kansas City (7-9) SidneySlicker
12. Seattle (7-9) Vottofan54
13. Arizona (8-8) Buckeye33
14. Dallas (8-8) NJReds
15. Philadelphia (8-8) HotCorner
16. New York Jets (8-8) KoryMac
17. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner
18. San Diego (8-8) izzy's dad
19. Chicago (8-8) izzy's dad
20. Tennessee (9-7) schmidty622
21. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner
22. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck
23. Detroit (10-6) cincy09
24. Pittsburgh (12-4) Mario-Rijo
25. Denver (8-8) Nathan
26. Houston (10-6) Ohayou
27. New England (13-3) -WVRed
28. Green Bay (15-1) Mutaman
29. Baltimore (12-4) WVRed
30. San Francisco (13-3) Ohayou
31. New England (13-3) - WVRed
32. New York Giants (9-7) Puffy

JaxRed
03-07-2012, 11:04 PM
With the #7 pick the Jags surprise a bit by taking David DeCastro, OG, Stanford.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1110/pauline.top50.prospects/images/David-DeCastro.jpg

The Jags have need at WR and DE, and DB. But Coples has a problem playing full out and reminds people here of Derrick Harvey. Kirpatrick has has character issues.

DeCastro helps build a line to protect Gabbart and follows the pattern that Smith has followed in his short tenure. Drafting big bodies from major conferences in the first 2 rounds. DeCastro is said to have no weaknesses and is said to be possibly the safest pick in the draft.

chicoruiz
03-08-2012, 08:22 AM
With the #8 pick, Miami slects OLB-DE Courtney Upshaw, Alabama.

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/07/53/33/2012918/8/628x471.jpg

A stud pass rusher to play the opposite side from Cameron Wake.

I'm assuming that the 'Fins will address their QB situation in free agency.

sonny
03-08-2012, 08:35 AM
With the 9th pick in the 2012 NFL draft, the Carolina Panthers select

Fletcher Cox, DT Mississippi St.

With a great need for a big man in the D line, the Panthers are thrilled to have a big, versatile, athletic presence like Fletcher.

HotCorner
03-08-2012, 09:40 AM
ROUND 1

1. Indianapolis (2-14) redsfanmia - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. St. Louis (2-14) MikeThierry - Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St.
3. Minnesota (3-13) schmidty622 - Matt Kalil, OT, USC
4. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck - Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
5. Tampa Bay (4-12) Caveat Emperor - Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
6. Washington (5-11) Gallen5862 - Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
7. Jacksonville (5-11) JaxRed - David DeCastro, G, Stanford
8. Miami (6-10) chicoruiz - Courtney Upshaw, LB, Alabama
9. Carolina (6-10) sonny - Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi St.
10 .Buffalo (6-10) ervinsm84
11. Kansas City (7-9) SidneySlicker
12. Seattle (7-9) Vottofan54
13. Arizona (8-8) Buckeye33
14. Dallas (8-8) NJReds
15. Philadelphia (8-8) HotCorner
16. New York Jets (8-8) KoryMac
17. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner
18. San Diego (8-8) izzy's dad
19. Chicago (8-8) izzy's dad
20. Tennessee (9-7) schmidty622
21. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner
22. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck
23. Detroit (10-6) cincy09
24. Pittsburgh (12-4) Mario-Rijo
25. Denver (8-8) Nathan
26. Houston (10-6) Ohayou
27. New England (13-3) -WVRed
28. Green Bay (15-1) Mutaman
29. Baltimore (12-4) WVRed
30. San Francisco (13-3) Ohayou
31. New England (13-3) - WVRed
32. New York Giants (9-7) Puffy

HotCorner
03-08-2012, 09:41 AM
With the #7 pick the Jags surprise a bit by taking David DeCastro, OG, Stanford.

Well crap. He was #1 on my board for the Bengals. Fortunately my board is longer than one. ;)

ervinsm84
03-08-2012, 11:11 AM
With the #10 pick the Buffalo Bills select Quinton Coples, DE North Carolina

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Notre+Dame+v+North+Carolina+Cz_K03IQgQAl.jpg

Bills are switching to a 4-3 this year, and for a 4-3 defense to ever be great, its mandatory to have elite talent at the DE position. Guess who just fell to the Bills? Even though I'm not in love with him due to motor concerns, he's still the consensus #1 4-3 DE in the draft according to many NFL front offices as well as Kiper and McShay. There's no question he's a pure top 5 talent, and whether or not he had an inconsistent motor in college or not, this is a must draft here for the Bills if hes available at 10, and I also think they'd take him if he was there.

Oh and hes only 21.


Height----Weight----40-----BP Reps-----Vert------Broad Shuttle-----3Cone
6’6--------284------4.78------25--------31.5------9’01”----4.78------7.57

The Draft Scout Snapshot
2011: First-team All-ACC selection in 2011 after leading the Tar Heels in both tackles for loss (15.5) and sacks (7.5). He posted 55 total tackles on the year-good enough for fourth-best on the team. He ranks fourth in the country among active players with 24 career sacks and leaves Chapel Hill with 144 total tackles, five forced fumbles, 22 quarterback hurries and four pass breakups


And I figured everyone might enjoy this long, detailed write up that a guy (ex college player and current O-line coach at a small school) on another forum I frequent alot posted about Coples. Written by Needle77 from
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=31801953&postcount=658


Coples in 2010 played interior line which is a huge thing for Coples. As we will see in a little bit he is not your typical speed rusher. He reminds me personally a lot of Justin Tuck in his ability to move a OT with more than just speed. He is extremely physical at the point of attack and is a player that is a 3 down NFL starter right now. Now onto some game tape for Coples.

The first game tape we will look at is UNC vs Mizzou. Coples plays in quite a few spots along the line. Versatility and finding matchups is definitely a strong point for Coples. His first big play of the game actually comes with him lining up in a 3/4 technique. The video I will be referring to is here: Quinton Coples vs Missouri - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCzaIhsHLK4)

00:37: Coples first big play of the game. We see him lined up in that bastardized 3 tech. The play is a zone right. Coples is extremely fast off the ball, shoots his hands, gains leverage and at the same time penetration. He is able to meet the RB in the backfield for a big time loss.

00:58: Coples is lined up in his more natural 5 tech. His first instinct on this play, and having OLB support to the outside helping on contain, is a cross face rush. Shoots his hands, comes off a touch high and is beat. But, Coples shows high level hand fighting skills, fights across the OT’s body, rips under and forces the QB to move out of the pocket. Showing power moves in a situation like this is extremely encouraging.

1:17: Coples doesn’t crash as the OT in front of him is pulling. Looks to have containment but is still very far upfield and quite high off the ball. This is becoming a trend for Coples, at 6’6 his height could be a disadvantage if he comes off this high.

1:28: Coples with a tremendous jump off the snap. Has OT beaten quite bad. Takes himself out of the play though by rushing to far upfield. Has to be more under control coming off the line. Initial step is biggest positive here though.

1:47: Coples shows that quick first step again. Still a little too high for my liking but able to let the QB see him. Like for him to finish off the play but does take away half the field with his rush. At NFL level his path to QB would be right on target, Mizzou does not drop back like NFL teams.

3:37: Forces an INT. But, this play needs to be a sack. OL does a smart move, everyone blocks down leaving Coples alone. Coples feels this, expects to get trapped but instead its not a QB power but a pass. He has to react to this after defending himself from the trap and recovers. He takes an inside rush which is the negative. But has the awareness to attack the QB’s throwing had to force the poor pass, leads to an INT.

4:10: Shows him shedding an OT for a tackle. Still coming off very high.

4:49: Maybe his best play or second best play of the game. Shoots hands, stifles the OT, sheds him, TFL.

6:27: A very important play. The trap is at Coples. We see him get his hands on the OT, lower his shoulder, take on the trap block and give up 0 ground.

This is the type of play he has to make in the NFL in the rush game.

We will look at one more game of Coples. This is UNC vs Miami. The video I will be referring to will be this one: Quinton Coples vs Miami 2011 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9SBPy9wOXk)

First play: Comes down the line to make the tackle. May not be a lot but there are some questions about his motor.

0:32: We see a speed rush from Coples. Unsuccessful but does hurry the throw. Miami, like other colleges, does not do the 9 step drop like NFL teams may. In a 9 step drop Coples pathing is perfect.

1:05: Feels the reach block. Hands already shot out and has control of the OT. Cannot shed him but does next best thing and draws the play out. RB has to cut inside to help. Very good play.

1:14: TE tries to block him. This is a pure power rush on a TE. He beats him like a drum and forces the QB to throw it away. Draws holding penalty.

1:53: We see him lose his outside shoulder but still fighting across his face.

2:02: Playing that Wide-5 spot but his instincts kick in and he still attacks the OL instead of taking advantage of the wide position and forcing the OT to kick deep.

2:08: A good view of him taking on a rush block and creating a stalement. Utterly impressive.

2:16: Takes on two blockers. Does not get home.

2:43: A look at his wide 9 spot and with the TE to him he does not attack the TE. Gets upfield very fast.

2:50: Drawing another holding penalty, so fast off the ball.

3:22*****: The best play on both videos. Absolutely destroys the OT. Unreal push out of his legs.

3:45+3:54: We see two speed rushes out of him. Game tape must see a weakness in this OT for him to show the speed rush this much. First time gets stifled a little. Second time his path his better and gets a sack.

4:25: A fairly negative play for him. Positive is he stifles the OT again and does not looks ground. But reads the play to late and loses his outside shoulder.

4:35: Last play, Coples shows his resilience against the run again and keeps leverage.

But that is enough film for us amateurs to look at to get a very vague idea about a player. As I would love to sit down and watch more availability and time are two things that are an issue but let’s go with what we have.

First let’s look at the negatives.

First his pad level off the ball is pretty atrocious. The issue is he is 6’6. Height is a great thing, it is the one thing that can’t be coached, and in his case will be a help at times but also a detriment. He comes off so high that some OT’s in the league that are a bit shorter will have a nice avenue of attack into his midsection. This will most definitely be an issue but is also something that can be corrected…to a point.

His awareness in the backfield. We see him a bit lost on a few option reads. I understand that is something he won’t be seeing that much and maybe none at all in the NFL. But his awareness is lacking. His pathing while trying to cut down RBs and QBs is not great once he has to react. This is film work. And as film is lacking at the college level hopefully he will improve upon this.

His speed rush. It can be quite ugly. He takes a tremendously deep route. Now in the NFL it will be a bit better but QBs are more apt to step up in the pocket and let you run around. But the extra few steps may help him a bit, still though he will be going against much tougher competition and that has to be a concern. The speed rush is the great equalizer for DE’s. It is something that he HAS to improve on.

The positives:

Hands. His hands are fantastic. I didn’t get to much into it above but if you go back and watch the video’s you will see that his hand placement is great. He is attacking the OT’s chest and outside shoulder. He never takes on the entire OT on a pass rush and while playing the run he is inside of the OL. This is a tremendous thing for a young player. Watch Jared Allen and his hand placement. It is a thing of beauty. Now Jason Pierre-Paul is a player who’s hand placement is not as great and he relies a lot more on his athleticism to bail him out. Fortunately Coples seems to have this part down.

Run game: He’s not afraid to get dirty. Plays inside, moves around, and gets off the ball. I’ll put his first step off the ball here too. As that may be his best asset but fits into each area. With that step and the shooting of his hands he is able to establish his position across the line of scrimmage. You do not see him engaging the OL on his side of the ball. And in the run game this is an enormous positive. A stalemate is a win for a DL in the run game and Coples does this, and sometimes even better by gaining ground into the backfield.

Power Rush: You don’t need me to say it again but hands/feet. These are the first steps to an elite power pass rush. But it’s his reaction in the middle of the pass rush that is just as good. He doesn’t go for a finesse swim or spin move. He goes for the bull rush and rip to attack the OL. Gets his hands onto the OL shoulder pad, lifts, and rips under. It’s definition of a power rush. His bull rush is just as good as he gets his legs under him and pushes that OL back with pure force. It really is a thing of beauty.

I think this essay is good enough. Anymore questions or if you have another video of Coples I’d be more than happy to look at it. If you see something that I missed or didn’t comment on please add onto what I’ve put in as well. This was very fun and I look forward to doing more.

Some closing highlight videos
Quinton Coples NFL Draft Analysis - 2010 Season - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg0kPsASvSg)
Defensive End Rankings 2012 NFL Draft 1.0 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LttKHCfNbwY)

More from needle77

He has a lot of the raw features that Mario Williams had. He saw almost no double teams in the Mizzou game. Miami did a lot more to help their tackle out by putting a TE to his side and having the RB key on him.

He has a tremendous plan when he is first gets off the ball. Very physical, takes on the point of attack really well. He tends to break down when he gets to about his 4th or 5th step and the offense is beginning to scramble and react. I think this maybe mistaken has a bad motor that I keep hearing on NFLN.

In reality I really believe that 5 tech is his perfect fit as his pass rush is still very good. I think he needs a ton of film work that likely he didn't get any of in college. The 20 hours of meeting time was likely spent technique and gameplanning rather than specific 1 on 1 matchup and reactions. NFL will help with this.

SidneySlicker
03-08-2012, 12:13 PM
With the 11th pick in the NFL Draft the Kansas City Chiefs select. Jonathan Martin Offensive tackle Stanford. Martin protected top pick Andrew Luck's blind side at Stanford.
At 6'6 300 lbs he's the big athletic body that KC needs at left tackle.

VottoFan54
03-08-2012, 01:35 PM
The Seattle Seahawks select: Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina

http://media.al.com/sports_impact/photo/10401316-large.jpg

HotCorner
03-08-2012, 02:14 PM
ROUND 1

1. Indianapolis (2-14) redsfanmia - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. St. Louis (2-14) MikeThierry - Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St.
3. Minnesota (3-13) schmidty622 - Matt Kalil, OT, USC
4. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck - Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
5. Tampa Bay (4-12) Caveat Emperor - Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
6. Washington (5-11) Gallen5862 - Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
7. Jacksonville (5-11) JaxRed - David DeCastro, G, Stanford
8. Miami (6-10) chicoruiz - Courtney Upshaw, LB, Alabama
9. Carolina (6-10) sonny - Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi St.
10 .Buffalo (6-10) ervinsm84 - Quentin Coples, DE, North Carolina
11. Kansas City (7-9) SidneySlicker - Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
12. Seattle (7-9) Vottofan54 - Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina
13. Arizona (8-8) Buckeye33
14. Dallas (8-8) NJReds
15. Philadelphia (8-8) HotCorner
16. New York Jets (8-8) KoryMac
17. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner
18. San Diego (8-8) izzy's dad
19. Chicago (8-8) izzy's dad
20. Tennessee (9-7) schmidty622
21. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner
22. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck
23. Detroit (10-6) cincy09
24. Pittsburgh (12-4) Mario-Rijo
25. Denver (8-8) Nathan
26. Houston (10-6) Ohayou
27. New England (13-3) -WVRed
28. Green Bay (15-1) Mutaman
29. Baltimore (12-4) WVRed
30. San Francisco (13-3) Ohayou
31. New England (13-3) - WVRed
32. New York Giants (9-7) Puffy

WVRed
03-08-2012, 05:22 PM
Some interesting picks:

I can't imagine Mike Shanahan ever taking a RB in the first round. He has had some great RB's (Portis, T Davis), but none were ever taken in the first. I'd say in real life the Redskins will be in the mix for RGIII, or even Ryan Tannehill.

Most of the mocks I have read has Fletcher Cox mid to late first. Dontari Poe has really shot up the draft boards, so I wouldn't be shocked if he ends up going before Cox, Brockers, or Still.

Buckeye33
03-09-2012, 01:01 AM
With the 13th pick in the 2012 NFL draft, the Arizona Cardinals select OT Riley Reiff from Iowa.

http://www.mitchellrepublic.com/media/full/jpg/2011/12/29/1229reiff.jpg

Mr. Reiff will hopefully be helping protect Peyton Manning, but if not he will be needed to help the OL in Arizona.

NJReds
03-09-2012, 09:13 AM
The Cowboys need secondary help, but they will most likely address that in free agency.

With the 14th pick, they select: Dontari Poe, NT, Memphis

http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/dontari-poe-combine-530x315.jpg


I personally don't like workout warriors, and the game film on Poe isn't pretty at times. But you can't teach size, and Poe is strong enough to move into the middle right now and anchor the 3-4. The Boys will slide Ratliff to DT, where he should provide support to the pass rush and save the wear and tear that he receives as an undersized NT.


There were plenty of winners and losers at the scouting combine, but perhaps no player helped his stock more than Memphis defensive tackle Dontari Poe. The numbers are staggering: 6-4, 346 pounds, a 4.98 40-yard dash, and 44 bench press reps.

Joseph
03-09-2012, 09:17 AM
I read this thread eager to see who the Bengals get, like it matters. There's something wrong with me.

HotCorner
03-09-2012, 09:42 AM
With the 15th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select Michael Brockers, DT, LSU.

http://catcrave.com/files/2012/03/55224301.jpg

This was a difficult decision as there were multiple options available with this pick. However the potential Brockers offers was simply too much to pass. The Eagles run defense needs improvement and Brockers is the best run stopper in this draft.

HotCorner
03-09-2012, 09:45 AM
ROUND 1

1. Indianapolis (2-14) redsfanmia - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. St. Louis (2-14) MikeThierry - Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St.
3. Minnesota (3-13) schmidty622 - Matt Kalil, OT, USC
4. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck - Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
5. Tampa Bay (4-12) Caveat Emperor - Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
6. Washington (5-11) Gallen5862 - Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
7. Jacksonville (5-11) JaxRed - David DeCastro, G, Stanford
8. Miami (6-10) chicoruiz - Courtney Upshaw, LB, Alabama
9. Carolina (6-10) sonny - Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi St.
10 .Buffalo (6-10) ervinsm84 - Quentin Coples, DE, North Carolina
11. Kansas City (7-9) SidneySlicker - Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
12. Seattle (7-9) Vottofan54 - Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina
13. Arizona (8-8) Buckeye33 - Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
14. Dallas (8-8) NJReds - Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis
15. Philadelphia (8-8) HotCorner - Michael Brockers, DT, LSU
16. New York Jets (8-8) KoryMac5
17. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner
18. San Diego (8-8) izzy's dad
19. Chicago (8-8) izzy's dad
20. Tennessee (9-7) schmidty622
21. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner
22. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck
23. Detroit (10-6) cincy09
24. Pittsburgh (12-4) Mario-Rijo
25. Denver (8-8) Nathan
26. Houston (10-6) Ohayou
27. New England (13-3) -WVRed
28. Green Bay (15-1) Mutaman
29. Baltimore (12-4) WVRed
30. San Francisco (13-3) Ohayou
31. New England (13-3) - WVRed
32. New York Giants (9-7) Puffy

HotCorner
03-09-2012, 09:46 AM
I read this thread eager to see who the Bengals get, like it matters. There's something wrong with me.

Talk about pressure! :laugh:

KoryMac5
03-09-2012, 12:16 PM
With Bart Scott on his way out the NY Jets select:

Luke Kuelchy Boston College ILB


Also known as “Clark Kent” because of his very reserved look off the field and Superman-like play on the field, Kuechly (pronounced Keekly) is one of the best linebacker prospects in the class of 2012, and possibly one of the best prospects overall. He is a supremely talented athlete with great speed, smarts, and overall ability. He is what you would consider a “five-tool” player at his position, and he could be a top 10 pick when all is said and done. The former ACC Rookie of the Year and now two-time All-American is poised to have another huge season for the Eagles on the inside. When you watch this guy play, you can see that he dedicates a lot of time to the film room. He has incredible instincts, great closing speed, and if you try to run past him, or even near him, you are making a mistake. Last year as a sophomore, he was a consensus All-American and he led the nation with 183 tackles, and added three interceptions, two forced fumbles, and 1.5 sacks. He shows very good ability in coverage for a young linebacker, and reads the quarterback’s eyes well. This kid is simply relentless, and he will only get better

HotCorner
03-09-2012, 02:07 PM
With the 17th pick of the 2012 NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia.

http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnflexperts/yahoo_cordy_glenn.jpg

I really wanted DeCastro but Glenn is a very nice consolation prize. Glenn (6-5 345) and Andre Smith (6-4 335) now form the "Great Wall".



Pass blocking: Surprisingly agile for a big man but is susceptible to speed rushes which likely will force him back inside or to right tackle after starting the entire 2011 season on the blindside for the Bulldogs. Eases out of his stance and waits for the defender to come to him. Possesses long arms and is very powerful, often easily controlling his opponent. Naturally balanced with good lateral agility to mirror the defender. Wide-bodied so opponents can rarely get past him and has an excellent anchor so bull rushes are futile. Nitpicking, but can be a bit inconsistent with his recognition on combination blocks. Typically gets an initial punch in on the defensive tackle before switching off to take on the blitzing linebacker, but can be fooled and miss his assignment. Can get a bit lazy with his hand placement, making him vulnerable to swim moves.

Run blocking: Excellent size and strength as a drive blocker. Can get fundamentally lazy, at times, playing too high and/or being a beat late off the snap. As such, he can miss with his initial punch and fail to push back his target. More often, he shows good hand placement and the leg drive to clear a hole. Powerful. Can knock defenders off the ball, providing impressive pancake blocks against even talented opponents. Good recognition in combination blocks in the running game. Good, powerful initial shove to the defensive tackle and gets to the second level with good quickness. Shows the ability to adjust his path to locate and attack his target. Rare body control for a man of his size when blocking at the second level.

Pulling/trapping: Shows surprising quickness and fluidity when pulling from left guard to lead on the toss and counter. Light on his feet and can adjust to hit the moving target at the second level.

Initial Quickness: A bit inconsistent with his initial get-off, though this may be simply a concentration issue with the snap-count. Demonstrates good initial quickness off the snap (especially for a man of his size) when pulling, but can be a beat late off the snap on other plays. Rarely is he actually beaten when late off the snap, however, due to his girth and long, powerful arms to catch and contain his assignment.

Downfield: Perhaps his most impressive trait, which is saying something. Gets to the second level quickly and consistently erases linebackers from the play. Doesn't waste his energy with pancake blocks, but instead seals off the defender completely, assuring that his assignment isn't in position to impact the ball-carrier.

Intangibles: Had four starts at left tackle over his career (all in 2009) entering the 2011 season. Turned in his paperwork to the NFL Draft Advisory Committee following last season but elected to return based partially on the plan to see more time at left tackle in 2011. Never missed a game due to injury while at Georgia.

izzy's dad
03-09-2012, 02:28 PM
The Chargers select Whitney Mercilus defensive end from The University of Illinois.

izzy's dad
03-09-2012, 02:30 PM
The Chicago Bears select Michael Floyd wide reciever from Notre Dame.

schmidty622
03-09-2012, 02:48 PM
With the 20th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Titans select Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin.

While it used to be a sin to draft a center in the first round of the draft, times are changing. Last year Tennessee's O-Line was woeful, leading to a down year by RB Chris Johnson. Knoz is regarded as the most NFL ready center prospect in this year’s draft. He has the potential instantly upgrade the middle of the Titan's O-Line.

HotCorner
03-09-2012, 03:23 PM
With the 21st pick of the 2012 NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Dre+Kirkpatrick+Florida+v+Alabama+tZXFg3UPXCGl.jpg

Kirkpatrick at 21?!?! The Bengals could not get their card in any faster. With the uncertainty of Hall's injury and a lack of depth at corner, Kirkpatrick fills a very big need.



Man Coverage: Possesses prototypical size and strength combination to lock down NFL receivers on the outside. Long arms and attitude give him a chance to be very good in press role. Plays with natural bend and fair foot quickness in his backpedal. Hips are fluid for his size, opens them up quickly out of pedal to keep inside position while running down the sideline. Recovery speed from double-moves and pick plays is more than adequate, does not give much ground trailing on crossing routes. Can be overaggressive landing his punch in press, giving up inside position, losing his balance, or even falling down.

Zone Coverage: Mainly used in man, but flashes playmaking ability in zones, as well. Uses his size and length to close and wrap effectively after the catch. Reads quarterback when playing off, baits him to make the underneath throw then closes to make the interception or a big hit to dislodge ball from receiver. Uses length to knock away touch passes behind him and in front of the safety.

Ball Skills: Strong enough to win jump balls down the sideline or 50-50 balls over the middle. Good hand-eye coordination to knock away passes in front of receivers with off hand. Does not find the ball quickly when receiver turns to look, overruns plays too regularly. Gambles on interceptions instead of securing the tackle.

Run Support: Very physical outside, pushes aside smaller wideouts easily and does not back down from confrontations with larger players. Willing to add himself to piles. Good hustle and chase downfield to help teammates. Typically keeps outside leverage but will get aggressive, leaving the sideline vulnerable. Needs to consistently break down and keep his feet outside or NFL backs will evade him.

Tackling: Flashes pure strength to stop receivers and running backs in their tracks on the outside, should get stronger over time. Likes to throw his shoulder into receivers to force them out of bounds. Resorts to duck-and-swipe when unnecessary, which may work against college ballcarriers but will cause problems at the next level. Used on corner blitzes due to size/speed combination, forces a lot of quick throws. Willing to go for the strip, especially if ballcarrier already engaged. Negates special teams gunners on punts, stays with them with effort, physicality and speed.

Intangibles: Well-liked teammate who got the nickname "Swag" for his quiet but confident demeanor; referred to Texas as not having "swagger" during his college announcement press conference. Likes to talk on the field to teammates and get the crowd involved when at home. Praised for his strong will and work ethic. Won the team's Bart Starr Most Improved Player Award in the spring of 2011.

HotCorner
03-09-2012, 03:26 PM
Updated thru 21.



ROUND 1

1. Indianapolis (2-14) redsfanmia - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. St. Louis (2-14) MikeThierry - Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St.
3. Minnesota (3-13) schmidty622 - Matt Kalil, OT, USC
4. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck - Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
5. Tampa Bay (4-12) Caveat Emperor - Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
6. Washington (5-11) Gallen5862 - Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
7. Jacksonville (5-11) JaxRed - David DeCastro, G, Stanford
8. Miami (6-10) chicoruiz - Courtney Upshaw, LB, Alabama
9. Carolina (6-10) sonny - Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi St.
10 .Buffalo (6-10) ervinsm84 - Quentin Coples, DE, North Carolina
11. Kansas City (7-9) SidneySlicker - Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
12. Seattle (7-9) Vottofan54 - Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina
13. Arizona (8-8) Buckeye33 - Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
14. Dallas (8-8) NJReds - Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis
15. Philadelphia (8-8) HotCorner - Michael Brockers, DT, LSU
16. New York Jets (8-8) KoryMac5 - Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College
17. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner - Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia
18. San Diego (8-8) izzy's dad - Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois
19. Chicago (8-8) izzy's dad - Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
20. Tennessee (9-7) schmidty622 - Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin
21. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner - Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
22. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck
23. Detroit (10-6) cincy09
24. Pittsburgh (12-4) Mario-Rijo
25. Denver (8-8) Nathan
26. Houston (10-6) Ohayou
27. New England (13-3) -WVRed
28. Green Bay (15-1) Mutaman
29. Baltimore (12-4) WVRed
30. San Francisco (13-3) Ohayou
31. New England (13-3) - WVRed
32. New York Giants (9-7) Puffy

LoganBuck
03-09-2012, 04:01 PM
Away from computer for awhile will evaluate and post later

schmidty622
03-09-2012, 04:17 PM
Gotta say, if that draft happens for the Bengals I am going to be very, very happy.

WVRed
03-09-2012, 04:58 PM
Gotta say, if that draft happens for the Bengals I am going to be very, very happy.

Same here, although I think the picks would be flipped. Kirkpatrick at 17 and Glenn at 21.

Mario-Rijo
03-09-2012, 06:30 PM
Don't like Kirkpatrick myself but I see the reasoning behind it. I think he is limited on the field, and off the field he is suspect. I actually prefer S. Gilmore at this point he's on the rise and I think rightfully so. Glenn is a good choice and IMO you picked him in the right spot even though the value is better at 21, all 3 teams directly behind the Bengals have need for OL if not multiple OL. Add to that Glenn's potential to play 3 of the 5 positions on the line and I think it's real wise considering Andre Smith may not be re-signed next offseason.

Can I ask your FA plan leading up to the draft? Just to get a clearer picture of your draft. Though I suppose it might change considering you already know who is available to you here.

HotCorner
03-09-2012, 09:46 PM
Don't like Kirkpatrick myself but I see the reasoning behind it. I think he is limited on the field, and off the field he is suspect. I actually prefer S. Gilmore at this point he's on the rise and I think rightfully so. Glenn is a good choice and IMO you picked him in the right spot even though the value is better at 21, all 3 teams directly behind the Bengals have need for OL if not multiple OL. Add to that Glenn's potential to play 3 of the 5 positions on the line and I think it's real wise considering Andre Smith may not be re-signed next offseason.

Can I ask your FA plan leading up to the draft? Just to get a clearer picture of your draft. Though I suppose it might change considering you already know who is available to you here.

I took Glenn at 17 because 1) DeCastro was off the board and the guards after these two are not quite on the same level IMO and 2) Kirkpatrick, Gilmore, Jenkins and Barron were all available at 17 too I figured at least one would be available. Ideally I would have traded down from 21.

As for my FA plan, it would be to sign Michael Bush, Nicks/Grubbs/Mathis, CB and WR.

VottoFan54
03-09-2012, 10:58 PM
I don't know if this should go here or in a seperate draft thread, but it looks like the Redskins are going to trade 3 first round picks and a second rounder for the Rams 2nd overall pick.

WOW! (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7668243/source-washington-redskins-acquire-no-2-overall-pick-st-louis-rams)

LoganBuck
03-09-2012, 11:05 PM
With the 22nd overall pick the Cleveland Browns select Lamar Miller RB Miami(FL)
http://www.ffspin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Lamar-Miller.jpg

I debated this selection, but ultimately came down to selecting another explosive player to go with RG3. The Browns have been lacking sizzle in their offense. The combo of RG3 and Miller gives them the most explosive QB/RB combo in the division, if not the conference, and maybe second only to Vick/McCoy.

LoganBuck
03-09-2012, 11:10 PM
I don't know if this should go here or in a seperate draft thread, but it looks like the Redskins are going to trade 3 first round picks and a second rounder for the Rams 2nd overall pick.

WOW! (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7668243/source-washington-redskins-acquire-no-2-overall-pick-st-louis-rams)

BTW, Wow. Typical Redskins, throwing away draft picks, sucks for Browns fans, but that is what happens. In this draft scenario, the Browns will probably trade back with St. Louis to let them get ahold of Blackmon, who St. Louis is said to covet. Perhaps the Browns get the Number six pick, and the Redskins second rounder. Or maybe they just take Blackmon for themselves.

Mario-Rijo
03-10-2012, 07:54 PM
Ok going on 24 hours since last pick so I may need to leave my pick with someone.

HotCorner
03-10-2012, 08:07 PM
Ok going on 24 hours since last pick so I may need to leave my pick with someone.

PM me with it.

Ohayou
03-10-2012, 08:17 PM
cincy09 MIA.

Buckeye33
03-10-2012, 11:03 PM
Time to get this moving again.

With the 23rd pick in the 2012 Redszone mock draft, the Detroit Lions select Mike Adams, OT, THE Ohio State University.

Adams projects as a high quality tackle that will help protect Matthew Stafford for years to come.

http://www.buffalobillsdraft.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/icon_9180723-420x279.jpg

Mario-Rijo
03-11-2012, 03:50 PM
With the 24th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers Select:

Dont'a Hightower ILB University of Alabama

http://lh3.ggpht.com/-Vw93ROjAoEs/T0m3UhXzNfI/AAAAAAAAAbQ/0Tt1rGwdxVU/BCS%252520Donta%252520Hightower%252520sacks%252520 Jordan%252520Jefferson%25255B2%25255D.jpg

Nathan
03-11-2012, 03:56 PM
With the 25th Pick, Denver Broncos select Devon Still, DT, Penn State.

http://thexlog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Optimized-Devon-Still.jpg

HotCorner
03-11-2012, 04:07 PM
Update thru 25.



ROUND 1

1. Indianapolis (2-14) redsfanmia - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. St. Louis (2-14) MikeThierry - Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St.
3. Minnesota (3-13) schmidty622 - Matt Kalil, OT, USC
4. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck - Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
5. Tampa Bay (4-12) Caveat Emperor - Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
6. Washington (5-11) Gallen5862 - Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
7. Jacksonville (5-11) JaxRed - David DeCastro, G, Stanford
8. Miami (6-10) chicoruiz - Courtney Upshaw, LB, Alabama
9. Carolina (6-10) sonny - Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi St.
10 .Buffalo (6-10) ervinsm84 - Quentin Coples, DE, North Carolina
11. Kansas City (7-9) SidneySlicker - Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
12. Seattle (7-9) Vottofan54 - Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina
13. Arizona (8-8) Buckeye33 - Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
14. Dallas (8-8) NJReds - Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis
15. Philadelphia (8-8) HotCorner - Michael Brockers, DT, LSU
16. New York Jets (8-8) KoryMac5 - Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College
17. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner - Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia
18. San Diego (8-8) izzy's dad - Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois
19. Chicago (8-8) izzy's dad - Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
20. Tennessee (9-7) schmidty622 - Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin
21. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner - Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
22. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck - Lamar Miller, RB, Miami
23. Detroit (10-6) cincy09 - Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State
24. Pittsburgh (12-4) Mario-Rijo - Donta Hightower, LB, Alabama
25. Denver (8-8) Nathan - Devon Still, DT, Penn State
26. Houston (10-6) Ohayou
27. New England (13-3) -WVRed
28. Green Bay (15-1) Mutaman
29. Baltimore (12-4) WVRed
30. San Francisco (13-3) Ohayou
31. New England (13-3) - WVRed
32. New York Giants (9-7) Puffy

Ohayou
03-11-2012, 04:24 PM
With the 26th pick in the 2012 NFL draft, the Houston Texans select Alshon Jeffery, wide receiver, South Carolina.

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alshon+Jeffery+Arkansas+v+South+Carolina+8VJhlP-u-1Gl.jpg

WVRed
03-11-2012, 07:30 PM
The New England Patriots come into this draft looking to fill numerous holes and with four picks in the first two rounds will have that opportunity. Defensively the Pats were one of the worst teams in the league, but had to rely on Tom Brady to carry the load. In addition, the offense needs more weapons to build around Brady, so both offense and defense will be a concern.

Wes Welker isn't getting any younger, and the Patriots will look to add some extra help at receiver.

With the 27th pick in the draft, the Patriots select:

http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/07/05/47/1857987/3/628x471.jpg

Kendall Wright (WR-Baylor)

In addition to being RGIII's top target, Wright is a terrific kick return specialist, giving the Patriots another weapon and eventual replacement for Wes Welker.

HotCorner
03-12-2012, 09:54 AM
Updated thru 27. Green Bay is on the clock.




ROUND 1

1. Indianapolis (2-14) redsfanmia - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. St. Louis (2-14) MikeThierry - Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St.
3. Minnesota (3-13) schmidty622 - Matt Kalil, OT, USC
4. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck - Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
5. Tampa Bay (4-12) Caveat Emperor - Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
6. Washington (5-11) Gallen5862 - Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
7. Jacksonville (5-11) JaxRed - David DeCastro, G, Stanford
8. Miami (6-10) chicoruiz - Courtney Upshaw, LB, Alabama
9. Carolina (6-10) sonny - Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi St.
10 .Buffalo (6-10) ervinsm84 - Quentin Coples, DE, North Carolina
11. Kansas City (7-9) SidneySlicker - Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
12. Seattle (7-9) Vottofan54 - Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina
13. Arizona (8-8) Buckeye33 - Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
14. Dallas (8-8) NJReds - Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis
15. Philadelphia (8-8) HotCorner - Michael Brockers, DT, LSU
16. New York Jets (8-8) KoryMac5 - Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College
17. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner - Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia
18. San Diego (8-8) izzy's dad - Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois
19. Chicago (8-8) izzy's dad - Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
20. Tennessee (9-7) schmidty622 - Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin
21. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner - Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
22. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck - Lamar Miller, RB, Miami
23. Detroit (10-6) cincy09 - Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State
24. Pittsburgh (12-4) Mario-Rijo - Donta Hightower, LB, Alabama
25. Denver (8-8) Nathan - Devon Still, DT, Penn State
26. Houston (10-6) Ohayou - Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
27. New England (13-3) -WVRed - Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor
28. Green Bay (15-1) Mutaman
29. Baltimore (12-4) WVRed
30. San Francisco (13-3) Ohayou
31. New England (13-3) - WVRed
32. New York Giants (9-7) Puffy

Mutaman
03-13-2012, 02:29 AM
The Packers biggest need is for a pass rush which wouldn't be so much of a problem if Thompson had listened to me and drafted a defensive lineman last year. But this guy Mark Baron seems like too good a player to pass on here. Plus if Nick Collins doesn't return, safety will be a real problem.

Green Bay takes Mark Barron from Alabama, safety.

WVRed
03-13-2012, 04:44 AM
With the Ravens coming into the draft looking to take Ray Lewis' eventual successor, Baltimore is happy to select:

http://dy.snimg.com/story-image/4/55/200554/52156-650-366.jpg

Zach Brown (LB-UNC)

Even though Brown projects as an OLB, the Ravens also have Sergio Kindle coming back from injury so the depth improves at this position. Was considering Vontaze Burfict for this pick but decided against it after reading how disastrous his combine was.

Ohayou
03-13-2012, 03:03 PM
With the 30th pick in the 2012 NFL draft, the San Francisco 49ers select Stephen Hill, wide receiver, Georgia Tech.

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Stephen+Hill+North+Carolina+v+Georgia+Tech+n6Vd9rh NU__l.jpg

Buckeye33
03-13-2012, 03:45 PM
With the 30th pick in the 2012 NFL draft, the San Francisco 49ers select Stephen Hill, wide receiver, Georgia Tech.

Interesting pick since the 49ers just signed Randy Moss. They now have the WRs covered for sure.

Ohayou
03-13-2012, 05:11 PM
It was down between him and Coby Fleener.

Puffy
03-13-2012, 05:55 PM
ROUND 1

1. Indianapolis (2-14) redsfanmia - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. St. Louis (2-14) MikeThierry - Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St.
3. Minnesota (3-13) schmidty622 - Matt Kalil, OT, USC
4. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck - Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
5. Tampa Bay (4-12) Caveat Emperor - Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
6. Washington (5-11) Gallen5862 - Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
7. Jacksonville (5-11) JaxRed - David DeCastro, G, Stanford
8. Miami (6-10) chicoruiz - Courtney Upshaw, LB, Alabama
9. Carolina (6-10) sonny - Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi St.
10 .Buffalo (6-10) ervinsm84 - Quentin Coples, DE, North Carolina
11. Kansas City (7-9) SidneySlicker - Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
12. Seattle (7-9) Vottofan54 - Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina
13. Arizona (8-8) Buckeye33 - Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
14. Dallas (8-8) NJReds - Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis
15. Philadelphia (8-8) HotCorner - Michael Brockers, DT, LSU
16. New York Jets (8-8) KoryMac5 - Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College
17. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner - Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia
18. San Diego (8-8) izzy's dad - Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois
19. Chicago (8-8) izzy's dad - Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
20. Tennessee (9-7) schmidty622 - Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin
21. Cincinnati (9-7) HotCorner - Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
22. Cleveland (4-12) LoganBuck - Lamar Miller, RB, Miami
23. Detroit (10-6) cincy09 - Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State
24. Pittsburgh (12-4) Mario-Rijo - Donta Hightower, LB, Alabama
25. Denver (8-8) Nathan - Devon Still, DT, Penn State
26. Houston (10-6) Ohayou - Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
27. New England (13-3) -WVRed - Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor
28. Green Bay (15-1) Mutaman - Mark Barron, S, Alabama
29. Baltimore (12-4) WVRed - Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina
30. San Francisco (13-3) Ohayou - Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech
31. New England (13-3) - WVRed
32. New York Giants (9-7) Puffy

Ohayou
03-13-2012, 06:00 PM
Kind of disappointed you guys let Tannehill fall out of the 1st.

WVRed
03-13-2012, 07:55 PM
The Patriots are back on the clock and after landing one of their top WR targets turn their attention to the offensive line.

In what might be somewhat of a reach, the Patriots select:

http://nfldraftmonsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/kelechi-osemele.jpg

Kelechi Osemele (G-Iowa State)

The best guard prospect in this class, and with the Nate Solder pick last year the Patriots improve the offensive side of the ball.

Buckeye33
03-13-2012, 09:56 PM
Kind of disappointed you guys let Tannehill fall out of the 1st.

I think Seattle should have taken him. Cleveland @22 probably would have if they had not got RGIII in this mock.

VottoFan54
03-13-2012, 11:07 PM
I think Seattle should have taken him. Cleveland @22 probably would have if they had not got RGIII in this mock.

I (Seattle) thought about taking him, but I felt they also needed an upgrade at OLB/DE. Seattle didn't have many sacks last year and in the pass heavy NFL, a good pass rusher is a serious upgrade to a defense.

Buckeye33
03-14-2012, 07:26 AM
I have an idea. Since we started this mock draft a little over a week before NFL free agency started I think after Puffy makes his pick that we should start the whole thing over and process the Washington trade. We could start it up again next week to allow for more FA signings.

I just think it would be a much more accurate mock.

LoganBuck
03-14-2012, 07:29 AM
I have an idea. Since we started this mock draft a little over a week before NFL free agency started I think after Puffy makes his pick that we should start the whole thing over and process the Washington trade. We could start it up again next week to allow for more FA signings.

I just think it would be a much more accurate mock.

That would be better at this point for a team like Cleveland who has had their plans shaken.

I am onboard.

HotCorner
03-14-2012, 08:26 AM
I have an idea. Since we started this mock draft a little over a week before NFL free agency started I think after Puffy makes his pick that we should start the whole thing over and process the Washington trade. We could start it up again next week to allow for more FA signings.

I just think it would be a much more accurate mock.

Works for me. The Chicago-Miami deal has a major impact too.

Puffy
03-14-2012, 10:58 AM
With the last pick in the first edition of the Redszone Mock Draft the Super Bowl Champion New York Football Giants select Nick Perry, DE, USC.

With Dave Tollefson leaving it opens up a spot in rotation. With Pierre-Paul, Tuck and Osi it gives Perry a year to develop and only be used in spot duty, i.e., getting after passer on passing downs. Futhermore, with Osi only having one year left on contract it gives us flexibility and a potential replacement. Plus, he is clearly the highest rated player left on the Puffy Big Board and, as the Super Bowl 46 champs, we can go for highest rated player regardless of top needs. Because, ya know, we just won the freakin Super Bowl!!

http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad298/puffy56/aperry.jpg

Caveat Emperor
03-14-2012, 12:54 PM
I'm down for R2 or a re-draft based on FA.

VottoFan54
03-14-2012, 02:05 PM
I'm down for R2 or a re-draft based on FA.

Same here, I would be willing to do either one.

redsfanmia
03-14-2012, 04:08 PM
I am on the clock and can pick a player or start over.

WVRed
03-14-2012, 04:14 PM
I'm up for whatever, but would anybody be up for continuing this draft and starting a separate one for the trade & FA edition?

Buckeye33
03-14-2012, 04:48 PM
I'm up for whatever, but would anybody be up for continuing this draft and starting a separate one for the trade & FA edition?

I vote that we start a new mock next Monday morning, which allows for a lot more FA signings and any other possible trades that may happen.

This draft doesn't take very long to complete and the real draft does not start until April 26th so we will have over a month to complete it.

Puffy
03-14-2012, 05:09 PM
I vote that we start a new mock next Monday morning, which allows for a lot more FA signings and any other possible trades that may happen.

This draft doesn't take very long to complete and the real draft does not start until April 26th so we will have over a month to complete it.

I kinda agree with this. I think we started way too early this year. Gotta let free agency start before we even know what teams will need come draft time.

sonny
03-14-2012, 09:05 PM
Good call. Let's press the reset button.

MikeThierry
03-15-2012, 01:09 PM
I have an idea. Since we started this mock draft a little over a week before NFL free agency started I think after Puffy makes his pick that we should start the whole thing over and process the Washington trade. We could start it up again next week to allow for more FA signings.

I just think it would be a much more accurate mock.


Totally agree. I wouldn't have picked Blackmon if I knew Daniel Snyder was going to lose his mind and give the Rams a bounty in the next couple of years. I don't think Blackmon will be there at #6 when the Rams choose.

Mutaman
03-15-2012, 08:21 PM
I had forgotten that Washington was still in the league.

JaxRed
03-16-2012, 04:41 PM
I'm for a new version. Here's a thought to keep it interesting.... Other thank Luck...... your team has to pick someone different than who they chose in first go-round.

Ohayou
03-16-2012, 05:43 PM
I'm for a new version. Here's a thought to keep it interesting.... Other thank Luck...... your team has to pick someone different than who they chose in first go-round.

Go to your corner.

Ohayou
03-18-2012, 12:33 PM
49ers just signed Mario Manningham. That changes things...

Mario-Rijo
03-19-2012, 07:51 AM
I'm for a new version. Here's a thought to keep it interesting.... Other thank Luck...... your team has to pick someone different than who they chose in first go-round.

Someone mentioned that idea last year I was never a proponent of it. Though it made more sense then because we already had a full 3 round version in hand when the idea was tossed out there. I understand this is only a mock but I'd much rather see it go as realistic as possible. And if that means selecting the same guy again or changing it up because a hole/holes have been filled then so be it. I think it'll be different enough just due to FA and the domino effect, can't take the same guy if he is gone and a decent enough portion should be this time around.

LoganBuck
03-19-2012, 08:11 AM
The Colts are back on the clock today?

Puffy
03-19-2012, 10:55 AM
The Colts are back on the clock today?

Yes - with a new thread though, don't you think?