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MWM
03-08-2012, 04:24 PM
We need one of these so we aren't posting in the Tiger thread all year. :D

texasdave
03-08-2012, 04:43 PM
Adam Scott the early first-round leader at -6.
Phil it at even par on the round. 4 birdies, two bogies and a double.

texasdave
03-08-2012, 05:27 PM
Woods 1-under after 15. A ton of putts today. Bogies 18, along with everyone else, to finish up at even par. Golf Channel showed a stat that Tiger is number one on the tour in total driving, a combination of distance and accuracy.

McIlroy ended up at 1 over.

MWM
03-08-2012, 08:51 PM
If Tiger would have been #1 in total driving the last half of the 2000s, he may have won 75% of the tournaments.

texasdave
03-08-2012, 09:01 PM
I watched the Golf Channel post-round coverage and they started off with Tiger's round. He looked brutal with the putter today. He did not look confident at all. Of course they may have edited just his bad putts in. But, still, he did not look good on the greens.

texasdave
03-09-2012, 01:20 PM
McIlroy must have been a bit upset about his 1-over round on Thursday. He comes out Friday and goes eagle-birdie on the first two holes.

Low scores are the order of the day. Tiger was 2-under through 7 holes on the day before missing, IMO, a ridiculously short birdie putt on his 8th hole.

texasdave
03-09-2012, 04:03 PM
Playing partners Justin Rose and Bubba Watson put on a performance today.

Watson had 9 birdies and an eagle against a lone bogey to shoot 62.
Rose had 8 birdies and carded a 64.

Also, Martin Kaymer went low with a 64.
Bo Van Pelt and Webb Simpson are 7-under on the day and still out on the course.
Tiger is -5 thru 15.
Lee Westwood is -5 thru 10.
Keegan Bradley -5 today.
Charles Howell II -5 thru 14.

Just a lot of low, low scores.

texasdave
03-09-2012, 04:08 PM
It is amazing that if Woods pars in for a -5 on the day that he will be further back after the second round than he was after the first.

MWM
03-10-2012, 12:11 PM
Bubba's round was pretty sick. Was watching his interview after and is it me, or is Bubba getting a little cocky over the last year or so?

MWM
03-10-2012, 01:03 PM
Look out, Tiger birdies first 3 holes and is now only 4 back. Rory also started hot and is also on the first page of the leaderboard, 1 shot behind Tiger.

MWM
03-10-2012, 01:07 PM
Rory shoots 6 under on the front nine and is now 4 back, tied with Tiger. What was amazing about McIlroy's front is that he parred both par 5s including #1, the easiest hole on the course.

UPDATE: Rory eagles #10 and is now 8 under on the day and only 2 back. Wow!!!!!

BuckeyeRed27
03-10-2012, 01:26 PM
Everyone is going low today. Rory is killing it right now.

MWM
03-10-2012, 02:15 PM
Ugly bogey for Tiger on #8. tried to hit a miracle flop for his 3rd and wound up not getting over the bunker. That is followed by a bad bunker shot and he missed his par putt. That's a 2 shot swing that killed any momentum he may have had.

Bubba off to a hot start as well with an eagle and birdie. #1 should not be a par 5. These guys have short or mid irons into the green consistently. That's not a par 5.

This course is playing way too easy today. Seems like every hole these guys have a wedge in their and for their approach shots.

MWM
03-10-2012, 03:31 PM
Rory bogeyed #`12 and couldn't get anything going after that finishing with a 65. Tiger fell apart on the back 9 playing just awful.

Bubba running away with it. When he's hitting it straight, this course is a cake walk for him. It looks like he's cruising around an executive course today.

texasdave
03-10-2012, 04:21 PM
Watson and Rose continue putting up red numbers. Each 4-under on the day. Rory at -9 after a 65. Tiger at -8 with two holes left. Webb Simpson with his second 66 in a row. Terrible opening day. Lee Westwood rebounds from an opening to post 67 and 68.

Does everyone like all the red numbers? It seems like every tourney you better be prepared to go 15 or more under if you want a chance to win. I guess chicks dig the long ball and the red numbers.

texasdave
03-10-2012, 04:51 PM
Tiger with a third-round 68. Tied with McIlroy and Donald at -9. He shoots four under for the day and it looks as if he will lose ground on the leaders. Amazing.

MWM
03-10-2012, 04:56 PM
I like red numbers, but not THIS red. Anytime a winner is around 20 under or more, the course is too easy, IMO.

texasdave
03-10-2012, 05:13 PM
Watson blasts driver, chips, putts, birdies. Rinse. Repeat.

texasdave
03-10-2012, 05:18 PM
Tiger was six back after one. Shoots 67-68. And could well be 9 or more back heading into the final round. Crazy.

texasdave
03-11-2012, 04:00 PM
Tiger spinning his wheel in the fourth round - five pars and then bogey-bogey.
Rory at -2 on the round.
Now stands McIlroy at -11 and Woods at -7.
Phil Mickelson finished at -3, a forgettable performance.
Luke Donald now lurking at -12.
Rose and Watson tied early at -16.

Watson bogies again and Keegan Bradley slips into a tie for first with Rose, Watson one stroke back.

texasdave
03-11-2012, 04:19 PM
Keegan Bradley alone atop the field at -16 as Rose and Watson slip.
Rory McIroy in stalk mode at -12.
Woods makes the turn at -7.

texasdave
03-11-2012, 04:21 PM
Woods bogies 10. +3 on the day.
Keegan Bradley draws two clear of the field.

Woods and McIlroy both start the day at -9. Woods now 7 strokes behind as Rory continues to run down the leaders.

texasdave
03-11-2012, 05:00 PM
Bradley drops a stroke.
Luke Donald and Rory McIlroy both at -4 on the day and three strokes back.

TIGER WOODS WITHDRAWS?????

Yes, Woods has withdrawn. Unsure why yet.

texasdave
03-11-2012, 05:09 PM
Rory eagles 12. One stroke back now.


Update: Tiger Woods withdrew from the tournament with a left leg injury. No further details are available for Woods, who left the resort, but we'll keep you updated. Tiger drove the ball off 12 and then walked off the course. His only comment was 'left leg injury'.

MWM
03-11-2012, 05:29 PM
Uh oh. An undisclosed "left leg" injury. That's not good. That's the same knee. I've thought for a while now the one thing most likely to keep him from returning to the top of the golf world would be that knee. It will be interesting to see what the reports wind up being, but this doesn't sound good.

MWM
03-11-2012, 06:09 PM
Tiger is now saying he felt tightness in his left achilles while he was warming up and it got worse throughout the day and reached a peak on the 12th hole. He also said in the past he may have tried to play through it, but thought it was best to just withdraw to not make it worse (smart move). He's going to get it evaluated early in the week.

This is better than the knee, but he's also had recurring issues with the heel. He can't be encouraged about this. The Masters is only 4 weeks away.

texasdave
03-15-2012, 03:34 PM
Padraig with a course record 61. Yawn. Anyone getting tired of these super-low rounds? Someone de la Riva 64. Yawn. 5 66s. 5 67s. Plenty of red numbers still out on the course.Appleby -4 after 7. Garrigus -4 after 6. Bettencourt -4 after 5. And so on. And so on.
Par will get you a tie for 82nd at this point. This is one reason I feel like Tiger is just another guy on the tour. He shoots 67 and 68 last week in rounds 2 and 3 and you think, "Hey, he is back". But he isn't really. He is further behind the leader after that 67 and 68 than he was after round one. 67s and 68s aren't really getting you anywhere these days. Let's see what four 68s does for you this week.

19 players shot 67 or more. How we looking?

texasdave
03-17-2012, 11:01 AM
Definition: Par is the number of strokes an expert golfer is expected to need to complete an individual hole, or all the holes on a golf course.

Par also got you cut this week on the PGA tour event.

MWM
03-17-2012, 11:11 AM
Scores were higher on Friday at least. I think the winner this week will be around 16 under, which isn't too bad.

texasdave
03-22-2012, 01:17 PM
It is early and the leader in the clubhouse is Jimmy Walker at 3. Dy-no-mite! Scores seem a little lower in the first round so far. Tiger is at -3 through 17. Justin Rose, who seems to be shooting a lot of low rounds lately, is also at -3. Nick Whatney -4. Leader is Anthony Kim at -5 through 15. Quite a few players have yet to tee off or are still out on the course.

Just checked out Tiger's scorecard. His putts per green in regulation is 2.000. Just checking some of the other players that seems pretty high. Balky putter again it looks like.

texasdave
03-23-2012, 02:58 PM
Tiger off to a hot start at 4-under for the day and 7-under for the tournament after 7 holes in the second round. He sits just two strokes off the lead. Is it just me or are there a ton of good golfers these days. The leaderboard shows Dufner, Woods, Watson, Garcia, Singh, Poulter, Rose and Choi all in the top ten. Nevermind that McIlroy, Westwood, Donald and Mickelson aren't in the field. Just a bunch of players that can go low out there now. Graeme McDowell was at even par after the first round and cards a nine-under on Friday to grab a share of the lead.

Tiger must have that putter going. He has hit every green in regulation today through seven holes. He has birdied 4,5,6 and 7. He averaged 2.0 putts per hole yesterday. Today, so far, he is at 1.571.

Correction. Phil is in the field, muddling along at ever par.

MWM
03-23-2012, 06:22 PM
Great day for Tiger. Still not feeling it for the weekend so something just tells me it's not going to happen. Don't know why, but he may prove me wrong.

texasdave
03-25-2012, 12:22 AM
Hopefully, Tiger holds his one-stroke lead. Just builds the anticipation up that much more for The Masters.

MWM
03-25-2012, 08:48 AM
Tough break for Tiger on 15 or he'd likely have a 3 shot lead. Apparently some kid fainted which caused some lady to yell when he was on his backswing. That's going to cause anyone to "flinch" as he put it. That was one ugly tee shot.

Homer Bailey
03-29-2012, 11:51 AM
Headed to Augusta on Monday for the practice round. Excited doesn't really describe the feeling.

Redhook
03-30-2012, 07:57 AM
Headed to Augusta on Monday for the practice round. Excited doesn't really describe the feeling.

That's awesome. I'm a little jealous. Being a PGA Member, I can go for free, but with 2 young kids my time is very limited.

Share some pics!

texasdave
03-30-2012, 01:44 PM
Phil Mickelson with a first-round 65 at Redstone. That is a beautiful course. Of course, the same can be said for all PGA tournament venues.
Shaping up to a be a memorable Masters next weekend.

MWM
03-31-2012, 04:13 PM
Mickelson just missed a putt that looked to be about 12 inches. It couldn't have been more than a foot and a half. It was for birdie on a par 5 where he hit a brilliant second shot to about 15 feet for an eagle putt.

texasdave
04-01-2012, 12:14 AM
Mickelson just missed a putt that looked to be about 12 inches. It couldn't have been more than a foot and a half. It was for birdie on a par 5 where he hit a brilliant second shot to about 15 feet for an eagle putt.

He seems to miss a ton of short putts.

MWM
04-01-2012, 08:59 PM
He seems to miss a ton of short putts.

That's true, but this wasn't really a short putt, it was more a tap in. It would have been given to any weekend golfer as even those guys would almost never miss it. It was a quick brain lapse.

However, it wasn't as short as a putt missed by IK Kim on the 18th green of the Kraft Nabisco today with a 1 shot lead. I was watching live and couldn't believe it. She played lights out down the stretch to take the lead only to mis a putt inside 12". The only other time I've seen anything like that was Scott Hoch at the Masters. She's in a playoff now so I hope she can regain her composure. She looked debastated, and rightfully so.

MWM
04-02-2012, 09:25 AM
I had a feeling Mahan was going to win at the end of the day Saturday. He's playing with a confidence he's not had before and looks like he may be starting to realize the potential many thought he's had for years now. Hunter's not my favorite player, but it's nice to see an American golfer on the rise and joining the upper echelon.

Been a heck of a year for Sean Foley with his guys winning 3 of the last 4 weeks.

texasdave
04-02-2012, 11:13 PM
I like Lee Westwood this week. It would be nice to See Tiger, Rory, Phil, Luke Donald, Lee Westwood all in contention on Sunday. Matt Kuchar would be my darkhorse.

Homer Bailey
04-03-2012, 05:31 PM
Me, Kyle Stanley, and his caddie
http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g413/solomocm/IMG_1082.jpg

Me meeting Stanley
http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g413/solomocm/IMG_1080.jpg

Me at #12
http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g413/solomocm/IMG_1058.jpg

#16
http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g413/solomocm/IMG_1032.jpg

#16
http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g413/solomocm/IMG_1023.jpg

Adam Scott at #9
http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g413/solomocm/IMG_1017.jpg

texasdave
04-03-2012, 05:43 PM
I would watch the Masters even if I didn't like golf. Beautiful.

PS Is Adam Scott swinging an invisible golf club? =)

Redhook
04-03-2012, 10:21 PM
That's awesome Homer. Did you ask Adam if he needed a third?

MWM
04-04-2012, 08:54 AM
Weather not looking good for Thursday and Friday in Augusta.

MWM
04-05-2012, 08:56 AM
I can't recall the last time The Masters felt this anticipated. I've not been more excited for one in years now. That's exactly why I feel it's going to wind up being a big letdown. :)

SunDeck
04-05-2012, 11:44 AM
Just saw Adam Scott and Steve Williams perform a pretty flawless and dork-free high five after Scott's chip in. Seems the oft derided Woods/Williams high five performance failures were all Tiger.

izzy's dad
04-05-2012, 12:47 PM
Went golfing with my dad and brother the other day. Hilarious. I suck so bad it is unreal. I think I am going to go more often

texasdave
04-05-2012, 01:09 PM
Henrik Stenson at -6 through 10. That should put an end to that nonsense.

texasdave
04-05-2012, 01:12 PM
No Ernie Els at this year's Masters. He had to win Shell Houston Open to get here. Somehow it doesn't seem right that the Big Easy is missing.

texasdave
04-05-2012, 01:52 PM
Tiger Woods continuing his strong play. 2-under through 10 holes.

Homer Bailey
04-05-2012, 02:12 PM
Rory doubles the opening hole.

texasdave
04-05-2012, 03:40 PM
Henrik Stenson took a quadruple bogey at 18. Dropped him from -5 to -1. Ouch.

texasdave
04-05-2012, 03:58 PM
Tiger finishes bogey, bogey to end up even par after the first round. Lee Westwood is leading at -4 after his first nine.

texasdave
04-05-2012, 07:16 PM
Lee Westwood looks to be the first round leader at -5. Tiger let a nice number slip away a little at the end to finish at even par. Phil had a disastrous triple-bogey on 10.

You rarely see Lee Westwood hit a bad putt. Which, I think, is very important at Augusta.

Rory finished at -1 after an opening hole double bogey.
Michelson rallied a bit after falling to +4 with his triple on 10. Phil birdied 15 and 18 to get back to +2.
Luke Donald had a rollercoaster round with more downs than ups, finishing at +3.

Roy Tucker
04-06-2012, 12:28 PM
Just saw this SI photo from the '65 Masters and thought I'd post it...

From http://www.golf.com/photos/1960s-masters-photos-sports-illustrated/arnold-palmer-1961-masters

http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/siphotos/20349324677/1/tumblr_m1uwehOdVB1qm9ryp

texasdave
04-06-2012, 12:49 PM
Rory making his move. 3-under through 7 holes and now just one stroke off the lead. I wonder if Rory going low (assuming he keeps it up) will have any affect on Tiger? Does knowing McIlroy posted a low score add pressure or motivation?

texasdave
04-06-2012, 01:17 PM
Nice story. Fred Couples at -3. He had five birdies on the front nine, offset somewhat by a couple bogies.

texasdave
04-06-2012, 04:23 PM
Phil working his way back up the leaderboard with a round of 68 today. He is currently 3 shots back. Rory is at -4 at the halfway point, one stroke back. Henrik Stenson is shaking off that snowman at 18 yesterday and has it back to 3 under at the turn today. Tiger is spinning his wheels early. Birdied one and three and then gave them back at 4 and 6. Even par through 7 and even par on the tournament. Old man Freddie couples had seven birdies on the day and shot a 67. He is co-leader with Jason Dufner, who seems to be shooting a lot of low scores here early in 2012. Sergio
Garcia, Bubba Watson, Lee Westwood, Miguel Jimenez and Louis Oostzhuizen all one stroke back of the leaders. Oostzhuizen played well last week in Houston.

BuckeyeRed27
04-06-2012, 04:41 PM
Tiger can't putt today. You can see him over thinking every one.
Fun to see Couples up there.

texasdave
04-06-2012, 04:49 PM
Tiger can't putt today. You can see him over thinking every one.
Fun to see Couples up there.

It seems like in 2012 Woods has been excellent tee to green. But his putting has been shaky. Augusta is not the place to be with an iffy putter. That being said, he is Tiger Woods so you never know.

paintmered
04-06-2012, 05:31 PM
There's the cursing on national TV Tiger we all know and love...

improbus
04-06-2012, 06:05 PM
There's the cursing on national TV Tiger we all know and love...

Tiger will be the first player arrested for assaulting a spectator.

paintmered
04-06-2012, 06:20 PM
"Yes, I got hit by a Tiger Woods ball." :lol:

BuckeyeRed27
04-06-2012, 06:41 PM
I hope Tiger finds it tomorrow because he's not out of it. No one is.

RANDY IN INDY
04-06-2012, 07:25 PM
Anyone see the ball that Woods nearly shanked on16? I don't think that I ever saw Nicklaus do that. He is a mess right now.

texasdave
04-06-2012, 09:56 PM
8 back after at the midway point is a pretty steep hill to climb. The thing about individual sports, though, is nobody can stop you from making up that ground if you play well. It is Tiger against the course. I would never count him out.

MWM
04-07-2012, 12:26 AM
Love seeing Couples in contention. There's no one I'd rather see win. Great to see Phil have a great round and get back into the mix.

Rory is going to be tough to beat. He's my pick right now.

Today is the worst Tiger has looked in a long time. It's like he took several steps backwards. He wasn't just not hitting good shots, he was hitting awful ones. I'm just surprised he wasn't higher than 75.

Redhook
04-07-2012, 07:19 AM
8 back after at the midway point is a pretty steep hill to climb. The thing about individual sports, though, is nobody can stop you from making up that ground if you play well. It is Tiger against the course. I would never count him out.

I think Tiger is toast this week. He's a little off with the driver, way off with his irons, and putting poorly. He's a mess. And, he's very frustrated. I'm usually very optimistic when it comes to him, but I don't see it this week. He looks terrible.

The one thing that stands out the most to me is his iron play. He only hit 7 greens yesterday. Even during his worst driving rounds, he still managed to hit his irons decent. I was shocked at how far right he hit some of his shots. Disappointing to see.

I still love watching Tiger play, but the more I listen to him talk the more I dislike him. He's a complete arse. I actually try to avoid listening to him in interviews now. It'd be nice if he showed just a little bit of humility and gratitude for a change. One day, when he's old and gray and has no friends or family, he'll realize what a jerk he was his whole life. It's a shame.

Redhook
04-07-2012, 07:22 AM
I'd love to see Rory or Freddie win. Even though Freddie is tied for 1st, I'd put his odds of winning at 100-1. Rory about 3-1.

It's a packed leaderboard. Going into today, there's probably 30 guys with a legitimate chance to win. After today, that number will be cut in half. I'm hoping for an exciting weekend, but like MWM said, with all the hype and anticipation for this year's Masters, I'm kind of expecting a letdown.

BuckeyeRed27
04-07-2012, 11:40 AM
Birdie birdie for Tiger on 3 and 4 back to +1. Also had a huge par save on 1.

texasdave
04-07-2012, 12:29 PM
Birdie birdie for Tiger on 3 and 4 back to +1. Also had a huge par save on 1.

And then a bogey at 6. He just seems to be treading water this week. Tiger parred both of the par 5s on the front nine. He needs to birdie those to get back in it. Tiger bogies 9. Back to +3. He needs one heckuva back nine here.

DGullett35
04-07-2012, 02:16 PM
I think Tiger is done. Couples needs a nice 68 or 69 and its going to be a nice Sunday to watch some golf. Im rooting for Couples big time. He was my dads favorite golfer. Phils still not out of it either tho. The course is in prime condition for some low numbers to be shot today. Id love to see a final group of Couples and Rory tomm.

BuckeyeRed27
04-07-2012, 02:26 PM
The course should be in prime condition for a low score, but hasn't given up one yet. Not much moving on moving day in the early going at least.

texasdave
04-07-2012, 03:12 PM
The course should be in prime condition for a low score, but hasn't given up one yet. Not much moving on moving day in the early going at least.

Brandt Snedeker started the day at +3 and is 5-under par through 16. Justin Rose has moved up the leaderboard, now at -3. But for the most part moving day has been snoozing day so far.

Tiger parred all 9 holes on the back nine.

texasdave
04-07-2012, 03:40 PM
Freddie Couples starts bogey, bogey. Not good. Jason Dufner now leading at -6. Second major in a row that Dufner has been a serious contender at. He lost the 2011 PGA in a playoff. Rory double-bogied the first hole for the second time in three rounds.

texasdave
04-07-2012, 03:43 PM
Tooting my own horn a little here. Westwood one stroke back and Kuchar two strokes behind the leader. By my typing this they have zero chance of winning the tournament now. :)

Puffy
04-07-2012, 05:38 PM
Mickelson and Hanson are on fire today. Oosthuizen is one cool customer as well.

texasdave
04-07-2012, 06:30 PM
Mickelson got Tiger's 66. Hanson did Phil one better. Enough big names close enough to the lead to make it a dramatic Sunday. Justin Rose had it to 4-under before the wheels came off. Rory with another forgettable round.

Redhook
04-07-2012, 07:42 PM
Exciting day. I'm looking forward to hopefully another awesome masters Sunday. Phil is the one to beat now.

kaldaniels
04-07-2012, 07:53 PM
So how long will the PGA stand for Tiger's antics?

Chip R
04-07-2012, 08:03 PM
So how long will the PGA stand for Tiger's antics?

Until he retires.

Joseph
04-07-2012, 08:14 PM
Yup, and why wouldn't they? People still watch to see what he does.

BuckeyeRed27
04-07-2012, 09:45 PM
So how long will the PGA stand for Tiger's antics?

Also many golfers do the same stuff Tiger does. They just don't have every shot televised.

Awesome back 9 from Phil. That eagle putt was great.
Rory surprised me.

Newport Red
04-07-2012, 09:59 PM
So how long will the PGA stand for Tiger's antics?

http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/Tiger-Woods-kicks-club-at-Masters-may-be-disciplined-by-PGA-Tour-040712

Woods "may" be disciplined for club kick. I hope not. I enjoy his meltdowns.

SunDeck
04-08-2012, 07:23 AM
Love it when Phil is in the thick of things, bringing risk v. reward into play on the back nine at Augusta like no other golfer in the game today.

MWM
04-08-2012, 09:47 AM
I still love watching Tiger play, but the more I listen to him talk the more I dislike him. He's a complete arse. I actually try to avoid listening to him in interviews now. It'd be nice if he showed just a little bit of humility and gratitude for a change. One day, when he's old and gray and has no friends or family, he'll realize what a jerk he was his whole life. It's a shame.

I agree with this. I can hardly watch when he's interviewed. He has this air of entitlement about him that's unmistakable. He has no perspective about the life he lives it seeems. He's such a contrast from pretty much every other golfer out there I just don't like him at all. He's too much of an arse.

But for some reason I can't stop myself from rooting for him. Much like when I've tried to divorce the Bengals, I just can't quit Tiger. I don't know why, but I'll probably continue being a fan.

MWM
04-08-2012, 03:04 PM
Holy crap, Oosthiuzen with a double eagle on 2 to take the lead. Just unreal! If he winds up winning we'll be talking about that one for decades.

texasdave
04-08-2012, 06:01 PM
Oosthuizen at -9. Kuchar, Westwood, Mickelson and Watson all at -7.

Oosthuizen with a double-eagle and Phil with a triple bogey today. There's your tournament to this point.

Stray
04-08-2012, 07:00 PM
Bubba vs. Oosthuizen in a playoff. This is intense!

Joseph
04-08-2012, 07:03 PM
What a wonderful Masters.

Joseph
04-08-2012, 07:27 PM
What a shot by Bubba Watson. My word.

kaldaniels
04-08-2012, 07:34 PM
Congrats to Bubba.

Man I can't stand Nantzisms.

SunDeck
04-08-2012, 07:37 PM
Anyone who didn't hug Bubby Watson, please raise your hand.

Man that approach was crazy, Mickelson worthy.

Stray
04-08-2012, 07:38 PM
That shot outta the woods was nuts. Cool scene.

DGullett35
04-08-2012, 08:02 PM
That shot out of the pine straw has to rival Mickelsons 6 iron in 2010..Congrats Bubba

MWM
04-08-2012, 09:40 PM
I'm a little disappointed. I think I'm becoming a full blown Louis Oosthuizen fan. I love that guy. Not only does he have the most perfect swing in the world, he has the best on course demeanor of anyone as well. It's like he had no idea he was playing for the Masters. When the ball hung over the hole on Saturday, he laughed about it. When he hit a bad bunker shot today he looked at his caddie with a grin as if to say "oops". He acts like he's out on a Sunday afternoon playing with friends, not taking himself too seriously. I really spark to guys like that. He's the exact opposite as Tiger.

Nice win for Bubba, even though I'm not his biggest fan. I didn't think he had a major in him but he's clearly matured as a player and may just win a few more.

Oh Phil. What can you say.

Joseph
04-08-2012, 09:58 PM
I like both guys, as a fan from afar since I don't follow golf week to week, so I would have been happy with either winning or even Phil coming from behind. Freaking great Masters.

bucksfan2
04-09-2012, 08:22 AM
Im glad Bubba won. I also thought it was cool how his PGA tour friends were out there to greet him when he won. Seeing Mahan, Crane, and Fowler there to greet him when he finished was something you dont see often. (If you want to blow some time check out Bubba on youtube.)

I really dislike how Jim Nantz puts himself at the focus during the Green Jacket presentation. But I loved Bubba's response to his shot on 10. He said something like "well I am pretty good at hooking the ball." The players are getting so much better in today's golf game. At one time there were only a handful of guys who would have the strength and courage to hit the shot Bubba hit. Now there are so many golfers out there who can hit that type of shot.

Hoosier Red
04-09-2012, 09:00 AM
Im glad Bubba won. I also thought it was cool how his PGA tour friends were out there to greet him when he won. Seeing Mahan, Crane, and Fowler there to greet him when he finished was something you dont see often. (If you want to blow some time check out Bubba on youtube.)

I really dislike how Jim Nantz puts himself at the focus during the Green Jacket presentation. But I loved Bubba's response to his shot on 10. He said something like "well I am pretty good at hooking the ball." The players are getting so much better in today's golf game. At one time there were only a handful of guys who would have the strength and courage to hit the shot Bubba hit. Now there are so many golfers out there who can hit that type of shot.

I also liked during his victory speech he thanked the members and the volunteers and the clubhouse attendants. He was obviously nervous, but he kept going back to them in the last minute, like he wanted to make sure he thanked them. In the midst of all those nerves I thought that said something.

Caveat Emperor
04-09-2012, 01:22 PM
Bubba killed it with this line last night: "In my dreams, I never actually got to this point."

I dig golfers like Bubba and Phil because they're always in "go for it" mode. They'll make some incredibly dumb decisions, but they'll also take your breath away with some absolutely amazing things as well.

As far as Tiger goes, I'm done with everything about him. Winning and dominance was a protective bubble that hid the real Tiger Woods -- now that his game has been stripped away from him, we're left looking at the sad and pathetic human being that was inside the entire time.

Stray
04-09-2012, 02:17 PM
I never understood the outrage about Tiger casually kicking his club, or dropping a few curse words on the course. I know golf is supposed to be different, a gentleman's game or whatever, but if you put a mic right next to a super competitive athlete in the heat of the moment what do you expect to hear? I wonder what's said in a baseball dugout, basketball huddle, or football sideline.

I wouldn't go as far as to call Tiger a pathetic human being. I know his foundation has changed the lives of many kids for the better. He's obviously not without flaws...but he's also living in a fishbowl. We all have em, everyone just doesn't see and analyze each one of ours.

But yeah, that was a great win for Bubba. After he missed his putt on 18 I thought it was over. Oosty had been playing so consistent tee to green I figured he'd win.

SunDeck
04-09-2012, 02:48 PM
Bubba killed it with this line last night: "In my dreams, I never actually got to this point."

I dig golfers like Bubba and Phil because they're always in "go for it" mode. They'll make some incredibly dumb decisions, but they'll also take your breath away with some absolutely amazing things as well.



They are just like the rest of us duffers, the difference being that they make stupid decisions on the golf course and their ability bails them out.

texasdave
04-09-2012, 03:44 PM
I never understood the outrage about Tiger casually kicking his club, or dropping a few curse words on the course. I know golf is supposed to be different, a gentleman's game or whatever, but if you put a mic right next to a super competitive athlete in the heat of the moment what do you expect to hear? I wonder what's said in a baseball dugout, basketball huddle, or football sideline.

I wouldn't go as far as to call Tiger a pathetic human being. I know his foundation has changed the lives of many kids for the better. He's obviously not without flaws...but he's also living in a fishbowl. We all have em, everyone just doesn't see and analyze each one of ours.

But yeah, that was a great win for Bubba. After he missed his putt on 18 I thought it was over. Oosty had been playing so consistent tee to green I figured he'd win.

I am so tired of boorish behavior being excused or rationalized away because a player is so "super" competitive. So if you don't spray the course with f-bombs and kick/throw clubs you don't really want to win badly enough?

Stray
04-09-2012, 04:15 PM
I am so tired of boorish behavior being excused or rationalized away because a player is so "super" competitive. So if you don't spray the course with f-bombs and kick/throw clubs you don't really want to win badly enough?

That's not what I meant at all. Not everyone is the same obviously, some really competitive people also have problems controlling their emotions. Heck, Bubba Watson has let his emotions get the best of him on the course before.

I just don't think it's as big of a deal as people make it out to be. I don't look for athletes to be something they're not, I just watch to see the best in the world compete against each other on the biggest stage.

Everything about Tiger is hard for people to understand, I don't get why so many people even try. He has lived under a microscope for the majority of his life, and he was raised by his father to thrive in intense competition. Nothing about his life has been normal. He's a workaholic that takes everything to extremes. It's not rationalizing or making excuses, I just think that it's genuinely who he is. Cussing at himself for hitting a bad shot isn't the end of the world or anything, if they're tired of it getting on live tv they should stop with the mics right on him during shots.

RiverRat13
04-09-2012, 08:35 PM
I never understood the outrage about Tiger casually kicking his club, or dropping a few curse words on the course. I know golf is supposed to be different, a gentleman's game or whatever, but if you put a mic right next to a super competitive athlete in the heat of the moment what do you expect to hear? I wonder what's said in a baseball dugout, basketball huddle, or football sideline.

I wouldn't go as far as to call Tiger a pathetic human being. I know his foundation has changed the lives of many kids for the better. He's obviously not without flaws...but he's also living in a fishbowl. We all have em, everyone just doesn't see and analyze each one of ours.


That might fly if at the same time Tiger wasn't staring down people who use flash cameras or talk when he swings. If golf is different, then golf is different. He can't have it both ways.

MWM
04-09-2012, 08:55 PM
As far as Tiger goes, I'm done with everything about him. Winning and dominance was a protective bubble that hid the real Tiger Woods -- now that his game has been stripped away from him, we're left looking at the sad and pathetic human being that was inside the entire time.

Pathetic human being? Come on, CE. That's a bit much, don't you think? And I highly doubt the things that led you to believe that were there "the entire time." Tiger became a celebrity unlike golf had ever seen and he was ill prepared for it. I'm pretty sure he was probably a decent guy who got caught up in his own hype. Wouldn't be the first time it's happened and it won't be the last.

MWM
04-09-2012, 09:01 PM
I also liked during his victory speech he thanked the members and the volunteers and the clubhouse attendants. He was obviously nervous, but he kept going back to them in the last minute, like he wanted to make sure he thanked them. In the midst of all those nerves I thought that said something.

I especially liked that as well. I am friends with someone who had some personal experience with Bubba as a tournament volunteer and it was not positive (hence my comment about not being his biggest fan). Someone else I know who works for the PGA here in Jax also told me Bubba used to be notorious for treating the tournament volunteers and staff very poorly but that someone took him aside and he's gotten much better about it. So I'm guessing that comment wasn't coincidence and it's great to see.

Caveat Emperor
04-09-2012, 11:19 PM
Pathetic human being? Come on, CE. That's a bit much, don't you think? And I highly doubt the things that led you to believe that were there "the entire time." Tiger became a celebrity unlike golf had ever seen and he was ill prepared for it. I'm pretty sure he was probably a decent guy who got caught up in his own hype. Wouldn't be the first time it's happened and it won't be the last.

Well when you confine his on-course antics with his treatment of the media, his mildly deplorable womanizing and general entitlement mentality -- yeah, I'd say he's a pretty pathetic dude.

He was a great golfer, but beyond that?

Redhook
04-10-2012, 07:26 AM
Well when you confine his on-course antics with his treatment of the media, his mildly deplorable womanizing and general entitlement mentality -- yeah, I'd say he's a pretty pathetic dude.

It's a pretty harsh statement, but I agree with you.

If you took golf out of Tiger's life, what would he have to offer (besides money)?

bucksfan2
04-10-2012, 08:13 AM
I never understood the outrage about Tiger casually kicking his club, or dropping a few curse words on the course. I know golf is supposed to be different, a gentleman's game or whatever, but if you put a mic right next to a super competitive athlete in the heat of the moment what do you expect to hear? I wonder what's said in a baseball dugout, basketball huddle, or football sideline.

I wouldn't go as far as to call Tiger a pathetic human being. I know his foundation has changed the lives of many kids for the better. He's obviously not without flaws...but he's also living in a fishbowl. We all have em, everyone just doesn't see and analyze each one of ours.

But yeah, that was a great win for Bubba. After he missed his putt on 18 I thought it was over. Oosty had been playing so consistent tee to green I figured he'd win.

I think a lot of golf fans are growing tired of Tigers antics. I don't think its excuasable either. From an early age you are taught not to act that way on a golf course. I wish his playing partner would have penalized him two strokes for unsportsmanlike conduct. It may have put him back in his place. I didn't see it live but saw a replay of it and just laughed. From someone who was the greatest golfer on the face of the planet to go to kicking a club in disgust on the grandest stage in golf is just sad. Tiger's entire game right now is at a point where I am seriously doubting he ever gets it back.

SunDeck
04-10-2012, 08:27 AM
One difference is that golfers are really right there with the fans, separated only by a rope. So in that sense, their conduct has to be a little different than that of a baseball player or a football player because those guys are pretty far removed from most of the people attending a game. Sure, at field level you do hear them in baseball, but there is also a lot of ambient noise around a ballpark and I have never noticed it nearly as much as I might if I were standing ten feet away from a guy in a much quieter atmosphere. You let the f-bomb fly on the tee box in a PGA event and it's going to get picked up by the television broadcast and everyone within 100 feet is going to hear it.
Then there is just the image that PGA is trying to preserve of a game played with dignity and decorum, which if you ask me is worth promoting. As for Tiger, he's probably not any worse than a lot of other golfers through the years, and I can certainly sympathize with a guy who doesn't want cameras clicking in his downswing, but the media has to be somewhat culpable for treating the guy like a holy man for so many years. Rory Sabatini is no worse than Tiger on the course, but he's been somehow viewed as a hothead, while Tiger is given a pass because he's just so intensely focused. Now maybe he'll be given a little less rope.

Stray
04-10-2012, 09:44 AM
I think a lot of golf fans are growing tired of Tigers antics. I don't think its excuasable either. From an early age you are taught not to act that way on a golf course. I wish his playing partner would have penalized him two strokes for unsportsmanlike conduct. It may have put him back in his place. I didn't see it live but saw a replay of it and just laughed. From someone who was the greatest golfer on the face of the planet to go to kicking a club in disgust on the grandest stage in golf is just sad. Tiger's entire game right now is at a point where I am seriously doubting he ever gets it back.

I don't know, maybe I just didn't grow up country clubs that were nice enough. I've been playing golf since I was 11 years old, and hearing cuss words out on the course isn't anything uncommon for me. I would also think it's safe to say that Earl never taught Tiger that lesson. When he was an amateur in match play he was different than the game...he'd stare down opponents, make big celebrations after putts, and he played with a confidence that pissed everybody off.

I remember around the time he went pro in the late 90s everyone was scared/didn't like him because of how he was different. The people who did like it were the fans because ratings shot through the roof and tournaments were packed. Everyone loved his me against the world mentality, his chip on his shoulder, and especially his fire on the course. I think this is just part of the package... He didn't start cussing on the course in the last few years, he's been doing this ever since he turned pro.

If people are growing tired of it now, I would think they're either growing tired of him not winning at the rate he used to, or they've never liked him to begin with and are seizing this opportunity to be vocal. I guess winning cures a lot of stuff, but I just find it weird that so many people are all of a sudden bothered by what's been going on for like what...17 years now?

MWM
05-06-2012, 06:07 PM
Go Rickie!!!!!

Redhook
05-07-2012, 07:30 AM
Go Rickie!!!!!

Great tournament! It's great for golf that he won. Very impressive. Rory and D.A., my old roommate, played great too.

MWM
05-09-2012, 08:37 AM
Great tournament! It's great for golf that he won. Very impressive. Rory and D.A., my old roommate, played great too.

I couldn't be more impressed with DA watching his interview after the playoff. I didn't know much about him before, but I'm a big fan now. He was so positive and genuinely pleasant you can't help but like him.

MWM
05-09-2012, 08:47 AM
I like Westwood this week. I know he's a common pick in all the big tournaments, but for some reason I think this is the one he wins. Sawgrass is a ball striker's course and he's the best in the world at it right now.

I've also done a complete 180 on Westwood. He was one of the few golfers I didn't care much for not too long ago. But I've gained tremendous respect for him over the last couple of years more by how he carries himself off the course than on. I think I misunderstood the guy and now have come to appreciate his willingness to speak his mind.

He's also not one of these prima donna athletes who has a finely tuned and well coached public persona so that he can get every last endorsement deal he can get. You don’t see Lee on a lot of commercials. I think he’s just very real. When asked about all his close calls and heartbreaks he never reacts with anything other than appreciation for what he does for a living. He was asked about all his “scars” after the Masters and he quickly said they aren’t scars at all. He then talked about how he gets to travel all over the world and play golf on the greatest courses in the world, etc… And he meant it.

I’ve grown to really like Westwood and would love to see him win this week in my backyard.

MWM
05-09-2012, 08:47 AM
posted twice for some reason

Redhook
05-09-2012, 09:38 PM
I like Westwood this week. I know he's a common pick in all the big tournaments, but for some reason I think this is the one he wins. Sawgrass is a ball striker's course and he's the best in the world at it right now.

I've also done a complete 180 on Westwood. He was one of the few golfers I didn't care much for not too long ago. But I've gained tremendous respect for him over the last couple of years more by how he carries himself off the course than on. I think I misunderstood the guy and now have come to appreciate his willingness to speak his mind.

He's also not one of these prima donna athletes who has a finely tuned and well coached public persona so that he can get every last endorsement deal he can get. You don’t see Lee on a lot of commercials. I think he’s just very real. When asked about all his close calls and heartbreaks he never reacts with anything other than appreciation for what he does for a living. He was asked about all his “scars” after the Masters and he quickly said they aren’t scars at all. He then talked about how he gets to travel all over the world and play golf on the greatest courses in the world, etc… And he meant it.

I’ve grown to really like Westwood and would love to see him win this week in my backyard.

Good post. I like Westwood a lot now too. He's due to win some really big events like this one.

MWM
05-09-2012, 10:27 PM
Got handed 2 passes for Sunday. I hope it's a good one.

texasdave
05-10-2012, 09:30 AM
D.A. Points did not start. I guess that is the same as withdrew.

Looked up DNS to be sure and it basically means a player did not start the tournament due to injury, illness etc. Found this link which has answers to virtually every golf question you can think of.

http://www.pgaprofessional.com/askthepro_archive_index.html

texasdave
05-10-2012, 01:39 PM
Tiger is plus two after 16. Already 8 strokes back. He is going to have to struggle to make the cut at this rate. That doesn't even sound right. Tiger struggling to make the cut.

MWM
05-11-2012, 03:35 PM
Has Tiger ever missed 2 cuts in a row?

texasdave
05-11-2012, 03:42 PM
Has Tiger ever missed 2 cuts in a row?

My money would be on 'no he hasn't'. Let's see if google has an answer.

I did find this.


Last week, Woods missed the cut at the Wells Fargo Championship, a tournament he has won in the past. That was a surprise, since earlier in his career, Woods went 142 tournaments without missing a cut. He has only missed the cut eight times as a professional with two of those being WD, one this year at the WGC Cadillac. Only a couple of days remain before the next examination of Woods' game. Should he miss two cuts in a row, it would be as historic as a victory.

MWM
05-11-2012, 04:08 PM
Commentators just said it would be a first.

texasdave
05-12-2012, 10:34 AM
Tiger cards a 68 and plays the weekend.

texasdave
05-12-2012, 05:05 PM
Tiger with an even-par effort on Saturday. -2. Phil stands at -4. Rickie Fowler through down a 66. He stands at -9 and in second with a lot of golfers still out on the course.

Stray
05-12-2012, 05:24 PM
I bet players hate playing with Kevin Na.

Redhook
05-12-2012, 06:36 PM
I bet players hate playing with Kevin Na.

He's slower than a box of turtles. I personally can't stand playing with guys like him.

That being said, I feel bad for what he's dealing with right now in his head. It's tough to watch. As a pro, and someone who's struggled mentally with this game like many others as have, you don't want to see anyone struggle to swing the club back. I only watched the last 30 minutes today and couldn't believe what I was watching with Na on 18 with his 2nd shot. The only other thing I've seen that was similar was Sergio at the Open at Bethpage a few years back. It's just amazing what the mind can do to you at this game. It's a shame really. This game is almost too hard sometimes.

MWM
05-13-2012, 01:09 AM
I've obviously never gone through what Na is going through but I can feel for him. I'm sure it's tough for him too. But something needs to be done. This should not be allowed as its not fair to the other players.

Even so, I'm still just amazed that with all of that he's actually leading a big tournament. I've never seen anything like it in sports.

Orenda
05-13-2012, 03:05 AM
Your time is money, my time is my time. Speed up the rat race?

Redhook
05-13-2012, 08:35 AM
I still can't believe Na is leading right now. I think it's going to be a very bad day for him. One of the worst days of his life. It could get ugly out there. A few thoughts:

Na may shoot in the 90's. A bad hole early on will destroy him.

What if he withdraws mid-round? I could actually see that happening. From the leader after 3 rounds?

The tournament might not end today, not because of weather, but because of Na's slow play.

Could officials separate Na and Kuchar mid-round when their group is 4 holes behind? Let Kuchar go by himself with an official being his "playing partner". Then Na could finish his round hours or days later.

Na could set the all-time record for penalty shots and slow-play fines.

I hope none of that happens and he somehow shoots a somewhat normal score. I just don't see anything good happening for Na today. I just hope it's not so bad because this could be a career-ending day for him. Hard to believe I'm saying that about a leader, but the mind is a very, very powerful thing.

Stay tuned.

Almost forgot, Kuchar is this year's Player's Champion.

MWM
05-13-2012, 09:24 AM
I was thinking the exact same thing, Kyle. Today could be really tough. I'm debating whether to go or not. Both guys I was supposed to go with bailed on me and I'm not sure I want to go witness this anyway.

Stray
05-13-2012, 11:26 AM
I give him credit for owning his issues, he knows it's tough for everyone and he's trying to work on it. Really is one of the weirdest things I've ever seen in sports.

He's won a tournament before so I think he's felt some pressure before, nothing like this though. I wouldn't be surprised if he won but I'm going with Fowler today. His game looks solid. Kuchar has made a lotta birdies but he's also made some really questionable decisions that led to bogeys.

Redhook
05-13-2012, 03:41 PM
-1 thru 2 for Na. Pretty amazed that he's keeping it together. I'm really rooting for him because he's battling some serious demons. Hate to see anyone deal with this.

MWM
05-13-2012, 03:48 PM
Fowler with a tough break on 5, wound up with double. He made a questionable decision on the third but it was his 4th that really hurt. It was a pretty basic chip that he left about 15 feet short. Now he's in a big hole that will be tough to dig out of.

Surprised Kuchar really seems to have nothing today. If Na doesn't melt down I think he wins easily.

Stray
05-13-2012, 06:08 PM
Some fans there are giving Na a hard time, that's pretty low.

Lotta ppl in the mix still.

MWM
05-13-2012, 06:08 PM
No doubt. I hope some other fans put them in their place. There's no excuse for that.

Redhook
05-13-2012, 06:10 PM
With 4 to go, Kuchar has a 2-shot lead. If he keeps his ball dry, he'll win.

Na is 4 over par today with 4 to go which is pretty good considering. I really didn't think he'd shoot 90 today, but I was thinking about 78 for the over/under. He seems to be doing better with his routine today. I'm glad today wasn't a complete disaster for him today.

Stray
06-03-2012, 05:28 PM
Tiger is playing the 18th at Memorial with a 1 shot lead.

His chip in at 16 was absolutely ridiculous.

Joseph
06-03-2012, 06:10 PM
That was a much more Tiger like tourney. Don't know if its more than a dead cat bounce, but he looked like he could win a lot still today.

DGullett35
06-03-2012, 08:02 PM
If Tiger would put as much effort into his chipping and putting as he does with his full swing he would shatter Jacks record IMO. If its not broke don't fix it

texasdave
06-04-2012, 10:00 AM
That was one sweet golf shot on 16.

Homer Bailey
06-06-2012, 02:51 PM
I witnessed all three birdies on the final four holes in person. It was incredible.

Homer Bailey
06-12-2012, 01:51 PM
Just an FYI, Lee Westwood is going to win the 2012 United States Open Championship.

Stray
06-12-2012, 03:37 PM
Just an FYI, Lee Westwood is going to win the 2012 United States Open Championship.

He should have probably won a few majors by now. I just expect him to lead after 36 or 54 holes and finish with a top 5, that's the norm.

Of the Europeans I like Luke Donald's chances better than anyone.

MWM
06-12-2012, 06:39 PM
I always pick Westwood. He seems like an obvious choice here, which is why he probably won't win.

MWM
06-12-2012, 06:41 PM
Some interesting pairings this week. Tiger, Phil, and Bubba should be interesting. I don't like this idea, but understand why they did it. I guarantee you the players hate it. Then you Westwood, Donald, and McIlroy. You also have Petersen, Swartzel, and Howell III. That's Charl, Carl, and Charles. :)

Redhook
06-13-2012, 07:19 AM
I always pick Westwood. He seems like an obvious choice here, which is why he probably won't win.

I picked him too amongst co-workers. No chance he wins now. :laugh:

TSJ55
06-13-2012, 03:04 PM
I don't like this idea, but understand why they did it. I guarantee you the players hate it.

I love the pairing. Throws Bubba directly in the fire for the 2nd Major of the year after falling off little bit after his Augusta win. I think Phil truly loves playing w/ Tiger and has played pretty well the last several times they were paired together. As for Tiger, I don't think it matters to him who he plays with. His gallery is going to be huge regardless.

texasdave
06-14-2012, 12:34 PM
It's early - just six holes - but the marquee trio is having problems.
Woods +1
Watson +2
Mickelson +3

bucksfan2
06-14-2012, 03:05 PM
It's early - just six holes - but the marquee trio is having problems.
Woods +1
Watson +2
Mickelson +3

That may not be bad. I have a feeling that E just may be a winning score.

texasdave
06-14-2012, 03:25 PM
After 16 and we have two lefties in trouble.
Woods -1
Mickelson +6
Watson +8

Stray
06-14-2012, 07:58 PM
There's a lot of really good players putting up big numbers.

TSJ55
06-15-2012, 12:59 PM
They're set to go again in a few. I love the US Open!

BuckeyeRed27
06-15-2012, 05:04 PM
Tiger just knocked down a birdie and is currently the leader.

Stray
06-15-2012, 06:37 PM
Haha this kid is tearing it up. 17 year old Beau Hossler leads by 1 shot.

Redhook
06-15-2012, 10:14 PM
That was the best and most complete round of golf I've seen Tiger play in a long, long, long time. He's playing awesome. Every part of his game looks great. IMO, it's over. I think he's going to run away with it. If and when he gets some good breaks instead of all the bad ones he got today, he'll separate himself from the field by multiple shots.

MWM
06-15-2012, 11:09 PM
Redhook, is it me or did Butch have Phil to where he wasn't going past parallel not too long ago and that's when he was playing his best golf? He's back to way past parallel again and he's all over the place.

Chip R
06-15-2012, 11:19 PM
That was the best and most complete round of golf I've seen Tiger play in a long, long, long time. He's playing awesome. Every part of his game looks great. IMO, it's over. I think he's going to run away with it. If and when he gets some good breaks instead of all the bad ones he got today, he'll separate himself from the field by multiple shots.

I don't think he'll run away with it but you have to like his chances.

texasdave
06-16-2012, 10:26 AM
I was hoping Casey Martin would make the cut but it seems he did not. The leader is at 139 and Martin shot 149. I always thought anyone within 10 strokes made the cut. I googled it and everywhere I looked it said the cut at the US Open was low 60 and all players within 10 strokes of the lead. Here is a link to the 2011 US Open scoreboard and if you scroll down to the cut line it reads 'low 60 score and ties plus those within 10 strokes of the leader'.
Anyone know what happened this year?

Stray
06-16-2012, 10:30 AM
I was hoping Casey Martin would make the cut but it seems he did not. The leader is at 139 and Martin shot 149. I always thought anyone within 10 strokes made the cut. I googled it and everywhere I looked it said the cut at the US Open was low 60 and all players within 10 strokes of the lead. Here is a link to the 2011 US Open scoreboard and if you scroll down to the cut line it reads 'low 60 score and ties plus those within 10 strokes of the leader'.
Anyone know what happened this year?

Just top 60 and ties this year. They said the change was because with the ten shot cut at this tournament they were afraid of a ton of guys making the weekend. They didn't want to send groups off on two tees for Sat and Sun.

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Redhook
06-16-2012, 06:37 PM
Redhook, is it me or did Butch have Phil to where he wasn't going past parallel not too long ago and that's when he was playing his best golf? He's back to way past parallel again and he's all over the place.

True. Phil's getting sloppy again.

Newport Red
06-16-2012, 08:06 PM
Seeing how this course plays, I can see how Bubba missed the cut.

Redhook
06-16-2012, 08:25 PM
IMO, it's over. I think he's going to run away with it. If and when he gets some good breaks instead of all the bad ones he got today, he'll separate himself from the field by multiple shots.

Oops! I still think tiger will win but he's a bit off today thus far.

Redhook
06-16-2012, 10:22 PM
Oops! I still think tiger will win but he's a bit off today thus far.

Tiger stunk today. Now, I don't think he'll win. And I'm shocked about that. He was off today And his sand play is horrendous.

kaldaniels
06-16-2012, 10:33 PM
Tiger stunk today. Now, I don't think he'll win. And I'm shocked about that. He was off today And his sand play is horrendous.

Don't take this the wrong way, as you will forget more about golf than I will ever know. And I am cutting to the chase because I don't have a drawn-out post left in me tonight.

But isn't it time we temper our enthusiasm about Tiger's odds of winning Major tournaments? Don't get me wrong I still figure he's got a couple left in him, but it seems like anytime he is playing well, I hear (in one way or another), "It's Tigers tournament to lose". (Not nessicerily from you) Until he steps up again and shows me something in a big way, I'm afraid I'll always take the field over Tiger.

Razor Shines
06-16-2012, 11:08 PM
Tiger stunk today. Now, I don't think he'll win. And I'm shocked about that. He was off today And his sand play is horrendous.

I was so disappointed with how he played today. Really wanted him to get this one.

Redhook
06-17-2012, 08:58 AM
But isn't it time we temper our enthusiasm about Tiger's odds of winning Major tournaments?

Before he played Thursday and Friday, I would've said yes. He looked so good those first two rounds. He was playing golf again, not golf swing. He won at Bay Hill and The Memorial, but he still didn't have "it" from my eyes. Thursday and Friday he looked like the old Tiger on the course.


Don't get me wrong I still figure he's got a couple left in him, but it seems like anytime he is playing well, I hear (in one way or another), "It's Tigers tournament to lose".

He's played well a few times recently, but I thought he was nearly great the first two rounds.

We're so used to Tiger winning when he's leading. Especially when's he driving it well like he is right now.


Until he steps up again and shows me something in a big way, I'm afraid I'll always take the field over Tiger.

I actually took the field over Tiger after Thursdays round. After Friday, I obvsiously would've taken Tiger over the field.

Allthough he's not leading and I don't think he'll win today anymore, he's still the best when he's on. I think he'll make a mini-run, but come up short today.

The thing that surprised me the most was how bad his short game was yesterday. It was atrocious. His chipping and bunker play was like a 10 handicapper. His putting wasn't good either as his speed was off most of the day, but it was the poor chips and bunker shots that cost him multiple shots.

Stray
06-17-2012, 10:00 AM
If the USGA has some tough pin placements today E or +1 could still win the tournament. Anyone at +5 or better is still in it imo.Tiger will need to come out and make a couple of early birdies to give himself a chance. I don't think there's any shame in Tiger's round yesterday, if you're off just a fraction on that course it's going to tear you up. He hit a lot of quality shots and wasn't rewarded for them.

I think Graeme McDowell is gonna win it. Pressure doesn't seem to affect him at all, and he has a perfect US Open game.

kaldaniels
06-17-2012, 02:22 PM
All fair points Redhook, but I think I'm just gonna be a harder sell than most.

MWM
06-17-2012, 02:40 PM
I don't think it's logical that he's capable of winning multiple tournaments on tour but somehow isn't capable of winning a major.

kaldaniels
06-17-2012, 02:46 PM
I don't think it's logical that he's capable of winning multiple tournaments on tour but somehow isn't capable of winning a major.

Who said that?

Razor Shines
06-17-2012, 05:18 PM
Tiger starts bogey, bogey.


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Razor Shines
06-17-2012, 05:26 PM
I think it's about time for Tiger's knee to cause him to withdraw. About to double #3


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MWM
06-17-2012, 06:22 PM
I'm pulling for Westwood, but my head tells me GMac.

MWM
06-17-2012, 10:02 PM
Another Sunday snooze fest at the US Open. I understand why the USGA does this, but for me personally, it's just so boring to watch. Survival golf is so anti-climactic.

Stray
06-17-2012, 10:56 PM
That random fan in the trophy ceremony was my favorite part.

It was kinda sad to see Furyk collapse like that...oh well, Simpson played some good weekend golf. I know the course was tough, but in those last groups you just kinda get the feeling nobody really played good. Looked like nerves got to a lot of them.

dabvu2498
06-18-2012, 12:08 AM
How much money could you have won betting people that Webb Simpson was the 14th ranked golfer in the world?

Hoosier Red
06-18-2012, 08:44 AM
That random fan in the trophy ceremony was my favorite part.

It was kinda sad to see Furyk collapse like that...oh well, Simpson played some good weekend golf. I know the course was tough, but in those last groups you just kinda get the feeling nobody really played good. Looked like nerves got to a lot of them.

That drive on 16th was pretty dramatic but it seemed like he had been flirting with disaster all day but had kept things just level enough.

bucksfan2
06-18-2012, 02:00 PM
Tiger is done. He is done in the sense that he is no longer great. At this stage in his career he reminds me a lot of a Davis Love in his prime type of golfer. A guy who is in the discussion as a potential contender in the majors but someone who isn't heads and shoulders better than the competition. The problem Tiger is having is what once he was only able to do now all the younger golfers are able to do that. There was a time when there were only a few players on tour who were strong enough to hit some of the shots from the rough, or have enough club speed to hit the amazing chip shots. He also doesn't have the fear factor that he once had.

Tiger is good enough to win another major but I don't think Tiger is good enough to catch Jack. I don't know if Tiger has that burning desire to catch Jack anymore. I don't know if he has that desire to be great again.

George Foster
06-18-2012, 10:24 PM
Tiger is done. He is done in the sense that he is no longer great. At this stage in his career he reminds me a lot of a Davis Love in his prime type of golfer. A guy who is in the discussion as a potential contender in the majors but someone who isn't heads and shoulders better than the competition. The problem Tiger is having is what once he was only able to do now all the younger golfers are able to do that. There was a time when there were only a few players on tour who were strong enough to hit some of the shots from the rough, or have enough club speed to hit the amazing chip shots. He also doesn't have the fear factor that he once had.

Tiger is good enough to win another major but I don't think Tiger is good enough to catch Jack. I don't know if Tiger has that burning desire to catch Jack anymore. I don't know if he has that desire to be great again.

When tiger totally changed his swing, he has not been the same. I'm a decent golfer, usually break 80. I think I know the golf swing pretty well. I know enough to know you don't totally redo your swing after winning 14 majors. He said he had to to protect his knee. I don't know if this was his decision or he got bad advice. The knee problem was caused by his powerful swing and the torque he had on the knee. In other words his club head speed was to much for his knee to handle. The easiest thing to do was to just slow down your club head speed. You don't have to hit your driver 320. You don't have to hit your 5 iron 200 yards. There are things you can do to slow your club head speed. Use a a driver that is 10-15 grams heavier, your irons as well. Don't totally change the swing you have had all your life and has been the most successful swing in the world. Learn to swing easier. It can be done. Swinging easier will put less stress on your joints.

When you are in pressure situations as a golfer, your body will go back to what is more natural. He has not had this "new" swing for that long. It's not natural yet and may not ever be. This "new" swing has turned him into a average golfer on the PGA tour. For the life of me I don't know why you would change a swing that is not flawed but just a bit to powerful.

Redhook
06-18-2012, 10:55 PM
When tiger totally changed his swing, he has not been the same.

He's totally changed his swing 3 times as a professional. It improved the first time exponentially with Butch. Then, it got butchered by Hank. And now, it's getting back to being pretty good with Sean. It's not as good as it was 10 years ago with Butch, but it's a bazillion times better than it was recently with Hank.


When you are in pressure situations as a golfer, your body will go back to what is more natural. He has not had this "new" swing for that long. It's not natural yet and may not ever be.

True. I call it golfer's DNA. You'll always revert back to what's most natural to you. Tiger is close to getting this swing to feel more natural, but I agree, it's not totally there yet.


This "new" swing has turned him into a average golfer on the PGA tour.

It's not his "new" swing that turned him into an average golfer. Not even close. He's 1st in Total Driving and 10th in Greens in Regulation. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. His putting and sand play has been far below his standards.


For the life of me I don't know why you would change a swing that is not flawed but just a bit to powerful.

Are you talking about his recent swing with Hank or his swing in the early 2000's with Butch? His swing was an unmitigated disaster with Hank Haney. A sloppy mess. His short game, putting, and solid iron play won him all the tournaments. He couldn't find a fairway to save his life.

I'm just wondering which swing you're talking about. The Hank or Butch swing? I'm still wondering why Tiger left Butch.

Think about this. What if Tiger didn't switch to Sean Foley? Imagine how bad he'd be if he was still with Hank spraying his tee shots all over the planet and now struggling with his short game. He'd miss almost every cut.

bucksfan2
06-19-2012, 08:21 AM
When tiger totally changed his swing, he has not been the same. I'm a decent golfer, usually break 80. I think I know the golf swing pretty well. I know enough to know you don't totally redo your swing after winning 14 majors. He said he had to to protect his knee. I don't know if this was his decision or he got bad advice. The knee problem was caused by his powerful swing and the torque he had on the knee. In other words his club head speed was to much for his knee to handle. The easiest thing to do was to just slow down your club head speed. You don't have to hit your driver 320. You don't have to hit your 5 iron 200 yards. There are things you can do to slow your club head speed. Use a a driver that is 10-15 grams heavier, your irons as well. Don't totally change the swing you have had all your life and has been the most successful swing in the world. Learn to swing easier. It can be done. Swinging easier will put less stress on your joints.

I disagree with the distance part of things. You need legnth in order to compete in today's game. Go walk around on the HS circuit or the amatuer ranks and you will find most if not all players can hit their driver 300+ and hit a 5 iron 220. Currently I sit around a 1 handicap and I hit my driver around 300 when the course isn't sopping wet and I can dial up a 5 iron to 200+ if need be. Legnth becomes a necessity when you need to hit a high shot into firm green. If you can hit your 8 iron 180 that ball is going to sit a lot quicker than a 6 iron.

I don't think Tiger's deimse is as much as it is his age and also his overall golf game. He doesn't look to have that mental fortitude that he once did. He isn't able to hit shots that only he could years ago. I was thinking about this the other day, but during Tiger's younger days he was playing with Colin Montgomery in the Masters. Montgomery was probably a top 10 golfer at the time and Tiger was bombing his 3 wood past Colin's driver. There were times in the British Open when Tiger would hit his stinger 2 iron off the tee 280 yards. In essence when Tiger was in his prime he was playing a different course than everyone else. Its a lot easier to be hitting middle to short irons to the greens when your competition is hitting long irons. If Im hitting a 8 iron and your hitting a 5 who do you think has better odds of getting it closer?

Redhook
06-19-2012, 08:57 PM
I disagree with the distance part of things. You need legnth in order to compete in today's game. Go walk around on the HS circuit or the amatuer ranks and you will find most if not all players can hit their driver 300+ and hit a 5 iron 220. Currently I sit around a 1 handicap and I hit my driver around 300 when the course isn't sopping wet and I can dial up a 5 iron to 200+ if need be. Legnth becomes a necessity when you need to hit a high shot into firm green. If you can hit your 8 iron 180 that ball is going to sit a lot quicker than a 6 iron.

I don't think Tiger's deimse is as much as it is his age and also his overall golf game. He doesn't look to have that mental fortitude that he once did. He isn't able to hit shots that only he could years ago. I was thinking about this the other day, but during Tiger's younger days he was playing with Colin Montgomery in the Masters. Montgomery was probably a top 10 golfer at the time and Tiger was bombing his 3 wood past Colin's driver. There were times in the British Open when Tiger would hit his stinger 2 iron off the tee 280 yards. In essence when Tiger was in his prime he was playing a different course than everyone else. Its a lot easier to be hitting middle to short irons to the greens when your competition is hitting long irons. If Im hitting a 8 iron and your hitting a 5 who do you think has better odds of getting it closer?

In a nutshell, I agree. Tiger's swing really isn't holding him back. Age, injuries, inconsistent short game, and confidence are holding him back. Mainly what's between his ears.

Stray
07-01-2012, 04:03 PM
Tiger has a 1 shot lead on the back 9 at the AT&T National.

MWM
07-01-2012, 06:58 PM
Only player with 3 wins this year and it's only July 1. Also top the FedEx standings now. Just a matter of time until he wins a major.

Homer Bailey
07-16-2012, 02:37 PM
2nd time breaking 70 in my life, first since 2003 (see attached image). The double bogey was a horrible, horrible break. Approach shot hit the lip of the bunker close to the green, and rolled all the way against the back lip. Had no shot.

The bogey on 14 was a bladed wedge into the hazard.

Missed a 4 foot birdie putt on 15, and an 8 foot birdie putt on 18. Lipped out my eagle putt on 16. Obviously very happy with the round, but it could have been more!

Redhook
07-16-2012, 02:51 PM
2nd time breaking 70 in my life, first since 2003 (see attached image). The double bogey was a horrible, horrible break. Approach shot hit the lip of the bunker close to the green, and rolled all the way against the back lip. Had no shot.

The bogey on 14 was a bladed wedge into the hazard.

Missed a 4 foot birdie putt on 15, and an 8 foot birdie putt on 18. Lipped out my eagle putt on 16. Obviously very happy with the round, but it could have been more!

Congrats! :beerme:

Homer Bailey
07-17-2012, 10:10 AM
Aaaand I just realized I posted this in the wrong thread.

Stray
07-22-2012, 01:16 PM
Adam Scott...wow man.

MWM
07-22-2012, 01:22 PM
There's no one I'd rather have seen won than Ernie Els. What an awesome day for golf.

dabvu2498
07-22-2012, 01:23 PM
I did not see that coming.

But good for Ernie. I've always liked him.

Stray
07-22-2012, 01:23 PM
That's a serious collapse. I was rooting for Els but I feel bad for Adam Scott. That's nuts...

TSJ55
07-22-2012, 01:32 PM
So glad to see Ernie win another. Almost as glad to NOT see Stevie Williams collect another flag. I normally would pull for A. Scott but haven't been able to since he picked S.W. up.

MWM
07-22-2012, 02:59 PM
I don't like hoping for the collapse of another golfer. I've rarely rooted "against" one before. But with Scott I find myself wanting very badly for him not to win. He's a good guy and very likeable but I also can't stand Stevie and didn't want to see him celebrating.

Redhook
07-23-2012, 07:40 AM
That went from being one of the most boring majors I've watched in a long time to "wow, what just happened?". That was crazy. It was over and then it was over with a different outcome. Weird. Good for Ernie. I feel bad for Scott.

bucksfan2
07-23-2012, 08:39 AM
That is the British Open to a tee for you. Scott plays very well but misses a couple of short puts coming in and the pressure is on. The courses aren't all that difficult over there but if you get up against the lip of a bunker you are SOL.

It should have made every golfer feel better about there game seeing Tiger in the bunker on that par 3. He almost hit himself then had to play a shot off his knees. How many weekend warriors have done something like that?

SunDeck
07-23-2012, 03:28 PM
That is the British Open to a tee for you. Scott plays very well but misses a couple of short puts coming in and the pressure is on. The courses aren't all that difficult over there but if you get up against the lip of a bunker you are SOL.

It should have made every golfer feel better about there game seeing Tiger in the bunker on that par 3. He almost hit himself then had to play a shot off his knees. How many weekend warriors have done something like that?

This particular weekend warrior knows when to admit that sometimes you have to go backwards rather than challenge a pot bunker when you're snugged up against the front of it.

I am thrilled to see Ernie Els win. Got a big soft spot for him because we are both parents of the kids on the Autism spectrum, but also I just love watching him swing a golf club.

texasdave
08-06-2012, 04:05 PM
Ten-year old makes the U.S. Women's Amateur Championship.

http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/sports/sports_blogs_local/ten-year-old-prepares-for-the-us-womens-amateur

texasdave
08-08-2012, 10:50 PM
The way Tiger is playing in practice this week, I am gonna go out on a limb and say he doesn't hit one bunker this week.

Australian Red
08-09-2012, 12:00 AM
I'll have money on Kyle Stanley, Jason Dufner and Steve Stricker.

Failing that i'm hoping for any Aussie and my mate K.J Choi.

Homer Bailey
08-09-2012, 10:30 AM
I'll have money on Kyle Stanley, Jason Dufner and Steve Stricker.

Failing that i'm hoping for any Aussie and my mate K.J Choi.

I'm also on my boy Stanley, as well as Robert Garrigus.

texasdave
08-09-2012, 01:40 PM
I am pretty confident that neither Stanley nor Garrigus nor Stricker nor Dufner will end up in a bunker this week as well.


http://www.golf.com/video/2012-pga-bunker-rule?sct=hp5

texasdave
08-09-2012, 01:44 PM
Rory McIlroy finishes five under and is the leader in the early leader in the clubhouse. John Daly is one stroke back. Joost Luiten has six birdies and an eagle and is sitting at -8 through 14. Tiger finishes at -3.

texasdave
08-09-2012, 01:47 PM
Dufner +2 (F)
Stricker +2 (17)
Stanley +1 (2)
Garrigus +2 (F)

texasdave
08-09-2012, 02:53 PM
It appears that I may have jinxed Joost Luiten as he finishes bogey-bogey-bogey-bogey.

texasdave
08-20-2012, 02:52 PM
For the times, they are a-changin'.


For the first time in its 80-year history, Augusta National Golf Club has female members.
The home of the Masters, under increasing criticism the last decade because of its all-male membership, invited former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and South Carolina financier Darla Moore to become the first women in green jackets when the club opens for a new season in October.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/G/GLF_AUGUSTA_NATIONAL_WOMEN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-08-20-11-00-47

texasdave
08-20-2012, 02:56 PM
Good for Sergio.


Sergio Garcia claimed a two-stroke victory Monday in the rain-delayed Wyndham Championship to earn his first PGA Tour victory since the 2008 Players Championship.

Read more: http://www.golf.com/ap-news/sergio-garcia-wins-wyndham-championship#ixzz2478wfMwZ

Redhook
08-27-2012, 07:03 AM
Lydia Ko, 15, won the LPGA Canadian Open yesterday becoming the youngest winner on that tour by over a year. Last year, Lexi Thompson, 16 then, won an event becoming they youngest ever to win. Pretty impressive.

More on Lydia. She just won the US Women's Amateur becoming the second youngest to win that event. Chump change compared to winning a tour event. She was the #1 amateur in the world prior to winning these 2 events. I heard someone questioned her ranking and she replied, "I'll show you!" ;)

And last, believe it or not, I could've caddied for Lydia at this year's US Women's Open. No lie. I'm not kicking myself right now for a variety of reasons, but that would've been pretty cool to have caddied for her. The girl I used to caddy for, Young Jo, is friends with Lydia and asked me a few months back to caddy for her at the open. Young Jo did say she was pretty good. Young was right.

texasdave
09-06-2012, 04:45 PM
Rory and Tiger put on quite a show during the first round of the BMW Championship at Pinehurst. Playing head-to-head they were each at -5 through 12. Tiger birdied 13 while Rory bogied the hole. Tiger went two up. But on the very next hole the results were switched and they tied again at -5 after 14. Tiger birdied 15 but was one-upped by McIroy who eagled the hole to go up 1. Tiger got that shot back with a birdie at 16. So they were knotted up at -7 with two holes to go. Tiger finished par-par, while Rory put a nose in front with a par-birdie finale. Round one goes to McIroy by the slimmest of margins - 64 to 65.

Redhook
09-07-2012, 06:59 AM
Rory and Tiger put on quite a show during the first round of the BMW Championship at Pinehurst. Playing head-to-head they were each at -5 through 12. Tiger birdied 13 while Rory bogied the hole. Tiger went two up. But on the very next hole the results were switched and they tied again at -5 after 14. Tiger birdied 15 but was one-upped by McIroy who eagled the hole to go up 1. Tiger got that shot back with a birdie at 16. So they were knotted up at -7 with two holes to go. Tiger finished par-par, while Rory put a nose in front with a par-birdie finale. Round one goes to McIroy by the slimmest of margins - 64 to 65.

I didn't get to see any of it, but man were those scores low yesterday. It should be a fun shootout to watch this weekend. BTW, they're playing Crooked Stick in Carmel, IN, not Pinehurst.

texasdave
09-07-2012, 12:14 PM
I didn't get to see any of it, but man were those scores low yesterday. It should be a fun shootout to watch this weekend. BTW, they're playing Crooked Stick in Carmel, IN, not Pinehurst.

Lots of low scores again today. Tiger and Rory haven't quite gotten into that spirit yet. They are each -1 for the day through 8. Phil is -3 over the first nine.
Vijay Singh leads at -13, four ahead of Rory, five ahead of Tiger and seven ahead of Phil. Lee Westwood and Graeme McDowell are both five under for their round so far and -9 for the tournament.

You are right it is at Crooked Stick. I have no idea where I pulled Pinehurst from.

Update: Rory just eagled nine. Tiger parred it. For the front nine Rory has three birdies, two bogies and an eagle. Tiger is all pars except for a lone birdie at the 621-yard, par 5 fifth hole. Rory is now two shots back of Vijay.

texasdave
09-07-2012, 01:55 PM
Should be a wild weekend. Rory crept into a tie for the lead but has since bogied a hole and is two shots back at -11. Tiger has played a steadier, bogey-free round and is at -9. Phil, meanwhile, has six birdies on the day against a lone bogey and now stands at -8.

Edit: And just as I say that Rory birdies 15 to get to -12. One shot behind leader Vijay Singh. Tiger also birdies 15 is standing at -10. Also of note, Bill Haas was at -9 through 16 but has just bogied the par-three 17th. Simply a ridiculous number of low scores being offered up by the course today.

texasdave
09-07-2012, 02:42 PM
The second round is almost in the books and it was nearly as entertaining as round one. It appears as though Vijay Singh will be the leader at the halfway point at -13. Ryan Moore was the first in the clubhouse at -12. Tiger finished birdie-birdie and is also in at -12. His round included 5 birdies and 13 pars. Rory birdied 18 and is in at -12 as well. His play was all over the map today. His round included 6 birdies, 4 bogies and and an eagle. Phil had 7 birdies and 2 bogies and is in at -8.

texasdave
09-08-2012, 06:41 PM
Phil decided to throw a little 10-birdie round at everybody and is the leader in the clubhouse at -16. He did have 2 bogies on the day. Vijay is still out on the course at -16 as well. Tiger started slowly with 4 bogies in the first 8 holes but has rallied nicely and is at -13. Rory is playing a ho-hum round and stands at -13 too. Adam Scott and Robert Garrigus each shot themselves into contention and are -14.

texasdave
09-09-2012, 03:45 PM
Four tied for the lead at -17 as they near the turn in Indiana. Dustin Johnson, Lee Westwood, Rory McIlroy and Phil Mickelson. Tiger three strokes back.

Homer Bailey
09-28-2012, 12:08 AM
Few hours away from attending my first Ryder Cup. Don't plan on sleeping much tonight.

texasdave
09-28-2012, 01:29 PM
They brought out the big guns in the morning foursomes and when the dust settled it was all square at 2 matches apiece.

Mickelson/Bradley took the measure of Donald/Garcia 4 and 3.
Woods/Stricker edged Poulter/Rose 2 and 1.
McIlroy/McDowell nipped Furyk/Snedeker 1 up.
Westwood/Molinari tripped up Dufner/Johnson 3 and 2.

Afternoon four-ball matches are just getting underway. The pairings are:

Watson/Simpson vs. Lawrie/Hanson
Mickelson/Bradley vs. McIlroy/McDowell
Johnson/Kuchar vs. Rose/Kaymer
Woods/Stricker vs. Westwood/Colsaerts

Maybe they are saving the Woods/McIlroy matchup for the last match on Sunday. Imagine if the Ryder Cup hung in the balance. Now, that is must-see TV.

texasdave
09-28-2012, 03:33 PM
Early returns in the afternoon are favorable.

Simpson/Watson 6 up thru 8.
Mickelson/Bradley 3 up thru 7.
Johnson Kuchar 2 up thru 5.
Woods/Stricker AS thru 5.

texasdave
09-28-2012, 07:01 PM
Simpson/Watson and Mickelson/Bradley both take their matches. US up 4 -2 with two matches still on the course. Johnson/Kuchar are dormie* (SP?) thru 15. Woods/Stricker down 1 thru 16.

*Johnson/Kuchar are up 3 with 3 holes to play. The worst they can do is halve the match.

texasdave
09-29-2012, 02:41 PM
United States is intense this Ryder Cup.

Saturday morning foursomes:

Rose/Poulter squeak by Watson/Simpson 1 up.
Bradley/Mickelson spank Westwood/Donald 7 and 6.
Dufner/Johnson take down Colsaerts/Garcia 2 and 1.
Furyk/Snedeker nip McIlroy/McDowell 1 up.

Saturday afternoon fourball is more of the same early as the US leads in three of the four matches. Woods/Stricker 2 down thru 3 still struggling.

Mickelson/Bradley has been a tremendous pairing. Woods/Stricker and McIlroy/McDowell not so much.

Razor Shines
09-30-2012, 12:13 PM
Wow. Tiger is out on the grounds following some of the early matches. Not sure if its a great idea but it seems he's making an effort at being a good teammate.


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Chip R
09-30-2012, 12:15 PM
Rory is barely making his tee time. Thought he teed off at 12:25 Central time. :doh:

improbus
09-30-2012, 04:11 PM
My favorite part of the Ryder Cup is the ridiculous US outfits. I think Judge Smails dressed them.

improbus
09-30-2012, 04:43 PM
This is going to come down to Tiger...

Hoosier Red
09-30-2012, 04:44 PM
My favorite part of the Ryder Cup is the ridiculous US outfits. I think Judge Smails dressed them.

I was thinking that I liked the uniforms this year. Definitely a step up from previous years.

11-11, US needs 3 1/2 more points. Currently lead in 3 .

improbus
09-30-2012, 04:47 PM
I was thinking that I liked the uniforms this year. Definitely a step up from previous years.

11-11, US needs 3 1/2 more points. Currently lead in 3 .

They look like they are going to leave the golf course and go yachting. But, I suppose that is a golf thing to do...

It looks fine with the vest.

Razor Shines
09-30-2012, 05:21 PM
Who is LISA? All the United States guys have her name on their collar and sleeve.


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dougdirt
09-30-2012, 05:42 PM
Who is LISA? All the United States guys have her name on their collar and sleeve.


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Losing Is Seconds Away

dougdirt
09-30-2012, 06:14 PM
That was pathetic.

Stray
09-30-2012, 06:19 PM
Man what a choke. I hated having Furyk in a late group just because of what happened. Early in the day he sinks those putts. That sucks...

Stray
09-30-2012, 06:20 PM
But even though we lost, that was intense and fun to watch. I've missed most of the Bengals game because I couldn't change the channel from NBC.

Hoosier Red
09-30-2012, 07:19 PM
Man what a choke. I hated having Furyk in a late group just because of what happened. Early in the day he sinks those putts. That sucks...

Yep. For the most part, I think it was more a case of Euros playing very well rather than US player's choking. But Furyk and Stricker were the opposite of clutch.

Watson, Simpson, and Bradley would have been upsets to win. Phil lost because Rose hit a 35 foot birdie bender on 17. Snedeker losing was probably an upset but that was cancelled by Zach Johnson beating Graham McDowell.

Tiger would have won a point had it mattered, but he conceded so the Euro's could get on with their celebration.

Basically it came down to Furyk blowing a 1 up with two to play, and Stricker missing two shots knowing he had to make at least one of them.

MWM
01-25-2013, 11:29 PM
Tiger looked unstoppable today...as good as he's looked in a long time. We'll see what the weekend brings.

Redhook
01-26-2013, 07:58 AM
Tiger looked unstoppable today...as good as he's looked in a long time. We'll see what the weekend brings.

He's clicking on all cylinders. I expect him to win easily with the relatively weak leaderboard behind him.

Stray
01-26-2013, 10:20 AM
Yea he looked really good yesterday. When things went bad last year it had a lot to do with his terrible short game. He could be in the middle of the fairway with a 9 iron and hit it in the bunker...he said he has spent a lot of time to fix those problems. With the way he was driving the ball last year and now this year, if he can keep that short game together he's going to be tough to beat.

texasdave
01-26-2013, 10:48 AM
Does he ever lose at Torrey Pines?

DGullett35
01-26-2013, 04:28 PM
This would be his 7th title here. The South Course is extremely hard too and he makes it look pretty easy. All his iron shots yesterday were pin high with the perfect distance control. That and when hes driving it in the fairway is when hes at his best. If it were not for 2 holes on his back nine friday he'd have a 4 shot lead to start play today.

texasdave
01-27-2013, 12:20 AM
The entire third round was fogged out? We have some thick fog here but it usually burns off by 10 or 11 at the latest. It was foggy all day out there in sunny California?

Redhook
01-27-2013, 07:20 AM
The entire third round was fogged out? We have some thick fog here but it usually burns off by 10 or 11 at the latest. It was foggy all day out there in sunny California?

Looks like more fog today. Guessing they'll be delayed 4 hours or so. Right now, I'd bet Tiger won't finish his 3rd round today. That's too bad too with no football on this weekend.