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reds44
03-28-2012, 01:00 PM
RT @JimDayTV: More bad news: Masset will start season on DL #reds

Redsfan320
03-28-2012, 01:03 PM
Relievers are dropping like flies... only one of the "M Men" left. We should look to encase Marshall in a large bubble until at least the end of ST.

:(

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camisadelgolf
03-28-2012, 01:09 PM
I think this is a precaution. Since becoming a Red, he has almost always been great as long as he doesn't pitch in April.

RedFanAlways1966
03-28-2012, 01:17 PM
Since becoming a Red, he has almost always been great as long as he doesn't pitch in April.

Great or healthy? I want to make sure I understand. Of course I hope he is healthy and pitches lights out as long as he is on the team. But he has been frustrating to this fan. Perhaps I bought into the hype about "if he can put it altogether he has great stuff" and have too high of expectations.

WildcatFan
03-28-2012, 02:24 PM
Does somebody want to set up a poll to decide which RZer gets the last bullpen spot?

mattfeet
03-28-2012, 02:26 PM
Here we go.

Kc61
03-28-2012, 02:28 PM
Great or healthy? I want to make sure I understand. Of course I hope he is healthy and pitches lights out as long as he is on the team. But he has been frustrating to this fan. Perhaps I bought into the hype about "if he can put it altogether he has great stuff" and have too high of expectations.

He was lights out in 2009, Masset.

Since then, he's been frustrating.

He does have very good stuff and can be terrific in stretches.

I was surprised the Reds gave him a two-year deal this off-season.

Maybe when he comes back, he'll be the Masset of 2009 again. Hope so.

camisadelgolf
03-28-2012, 03:24 PM
Great or healthy? I want to make sure I understand. Of course I hope he is healthy and pitches lights out as long as he is on the team. But he has been frustrating to this fan. Perhaps I bought into the hype about "if he can put it altogether he has great stuff" and have too high of expectations.
Maybe he's a 'slow starter' (if that actually exists), but he has been far from frustrating outside of April. Look at the splits . . .

Nick Masset as a Red by month:

W L W-L% ERA IP H ER BB SO WHIP
April 3 4 .429 5.77 34.1 38 22 23 36 1.777
May 2 2 .500 2.60 34.2 30 10 13 45 1.240
June 3 0 1.000 2.72 36.1 28 11 13 25 1.128
July 0 1 .000 2.72 39.2 37 12 14 37 1.286
August 2 2 .500 2.84 57.0 52 18 17 47 1.211
Sept 3 2 .600 2.11 38.1 28 9 13 38 1.070

bucksfan2
03-28-2012, 03:28 PM
Is this really a big deal? Correct me if I am wrong, but won't the Reds be able to retro-activate to the last time he threw in a Major League spring training game? They can use him in minor league games during the meantime can't they? He also could be activated just a few days into the season.

Kc61
03-28-2012, 03:30 PM
Maybe he's a 'slow starter' (if that actually exists), but he has been far from frustrating outside of April. Look at the splits . . .

Nick Masset as a Red by month:

W L W-L% ERA IP H ER BB SO WHIP
April 3 4 .429 5.77 34.1 38 22 23 36 1.777
May 2 2 .500 2.60 34.2 30 10 13 45 1.240
June 3 0 1.000 2.72 36.1 28 11 13 25 1.128
July 0 1 .000 2.72 39.2 37 12 14 37 1.286
August 2 2 .500 2.84 57.0 52 18 17 47 1.211
Sept 3 2 .600 2.11 38.1 28 9 13 38 1.070

Last year Masset had a 7.20 ERA in August and a 3.97 in July. He's been less consistent in the more recent years.

George Anderson
03-28-2012, 03:35 PM
This season is starting off very badly.

camisadelgolf
03-28-2012, 03:41 PM
Last year Masset had a 7.20 ERA in August and a 3.97 in July. He's been less consistent in the more recent years.
Sure, but how is that any more or less frustrating than every single pitcher in baseball, especially relievers? I wouldn't call Masset 'frustrating'--I'd call him streaky. But overall, he has been a very good pitcher for the Reds outside of April.

membengal
03-28-2012, 03:42 PM
Last year it was the starting pitching being struck down like a plague, this year it is the relievers.

I irrationally blame it on training in arizona.

Kc61
03-28-2012, 03:46 PM
Sure, but how is that any more or less frustrating than every single pitcher in baseball, especially relievers? I wouldn't call Masset 'frustrating'--I'd call him streaky. But overall, he has been a very good pitcher for the Reds outside of April.

Matter of expectations.

I thought Masset would be better than this.

He was great in 2009. He had the bad April in 2010 and some other months weren't so hot. He was hot in July and August that year.

Last year, bad April, then good, then bad July and August.

At one point, I thought Masset would be a closer candidate. No way now.

You're right, he's not worse than many other guys. But I don't view Masset as a top notch reliever unless he rebounds.

BTW, Masset's WHIP for 2011 was over 1.5. That is not good.