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_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2012, 04:57 PM
McGehee 2 run dinger. 8-6 Pirates.

VottoFan54
07-18-2012, 04:57 PM
Holliday K, Craig is up with the tying run on first in the ninth and two outs.

Tom Servo
07-18-2012, 04:58 PM
The Rockies sure do suck

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2012, 04:59 PM
The Rockies sure do suck

Yep. But the Pirates are playing good ball against pretty much anybody right now.

9-6 Pirates. Another dinger. Barajas.

VottoFan54
07-18-2012, 05:02 PM
The Cardinals have bases loaded in the ninth with Freese coming up after Craig drew a walk.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2012, 05:02 PM
*sigh* walk to load the bases for the Cards.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2012, 05:03 PM
KRod is brutal.

BBRod...new nick.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2012, 05:06 PM
LOL. Walks in a run.

VottoFan54
07-18-2012, 05:06 PM
Now 4-3 Brewers after Rodriguez walks in a run. Why are they leaving him out there? This is his fourth consecutive game and he has thrown over 30 pitches.

RedlegJake
07-18-2012, 05:06 PM
9th at Milwaukee Brewers lead 4-2 Cards have men on 1st and 2nd 1 out Holliday up - he strikes out 2 down. Allen Craig batting against Rodriguez. Beltran steals third. full count on Craig. He walks Craig. Bases loaded. David Freese comes up. Greene pinch runs for Craig.
Rodriguez walks in a run. 4-3 Brewers. Bases still loaded. 2 out. Berkman up.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2012, 05:07 PM
Brewers announcer..."can't take him out now, it's his game...he's the closer". Pitiful.

RedlegJake
07-18-2012, 05:07 PM
He got it done! Fly out. Brwers win!

VottoFan54
07-18-2012, 05:08 PM
Cards lose 4-3!!!

RedlegJake
07-18-2012, 05:08 PM
Whew! That was too Cordero like

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2012, 05:08 PM
I do like this Maldanado kid for the Brewers. He really catches a fine game.

Well, that was interesting. Brewers win.

RedlegJake
07-18-2012, 05:09 PM
Well back to Colorado where its 9-6. Hope the Rox can get the long ball going for their side. Bottom 5 man on 1st 1 out. Rox batting

RedlegJake
07-18-2012, 05:11 PM
Our guy Fowler is hitting with 2 down loops a soft liner to left caught for out 3. 9-6 Pirates after 5.

RedlegJake
07-18-2012, 05:12 PM
I don't know how to act in a game with this much offense...

RedlegJake
07-18-2012, 05:13 PM
Rex Brothers pitching for the Rox - totally new name and face for me...where have I been?

edabbs44
07-18-2012, 05:14 PM
Rex Brothers pitching for the Rox - totally new name and face for me...where have I been?

Sounds like a soap opera name.

Big Klu
07-18-2012, 05:27 PM
Sounds like a soap opera name.

No, that would be "Dr. Rex Brothers", or "Col. Rex Brothers".

marcshoe
07-18-2012, 05:41 PM
Just showed a shot of Reds fans in the stands at Doors. Pitt's announcer wondered if they were just there to watch the scoreboard.

marcshoe
07-18-2012, 05:43 PM
Rex Brothers pitching for the Rox - totally new name and face for me...where have I been?

He was a sandwich pick a couple of drafts ago, and Ai wanted the Reds to take him because he's from my alma mater, Lipscomb, as is Josh Smith.

RedlegJake
07-18-2012, 06:08 PM
Unless the Rox come back in the 9th the Pirates are winners again. Score is 9-6 after 8 Pirates.

RedlegJake
07-18-2012, 06:10 PM
I wonder is Rafael Betancourt is any relation to Yuniel?

RedlegJake
07-18-2012, 06:20 PM
The evil Hanrahan is on for the save

RedlegJake
07-18-2012, 06:23 PM
Hanrahan made Colvin look stupid striking him out. Then he made Ramon Hernandez look almost as bad striking him out. And a fly ball seals it. Pirates win 9-6

RedlegJake
07-18-2012, 06:24 PM
The Pirates do NOT look like a team that is going to fade anytime soon let me tell you - the people who expect that are going to be really shocked I think.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2012, 06:47 PM
The Pirates do NOT look like a team that is going to fade anytime soon let me tell you - the people who expect that are going to be really shocked I think.

Agreed. The bats are coming around. I do expect the pitching to regress, but the offense stepping up has been LONG overdue. I still think we'll pull away from them considerably...but I don't see the Cards catching them.

oregonred
07-18-2012, 06:48 PM
For the first time this season, the NL cream is starting to rise to the top with five teams in really good playoff position. Nats, Reds, Pirates, Braves and Giants. The Dodgers, Mets and Cardinals have all regressed closer to .500 since the ASB and that has opened up some sudden distance between the top 5 contenders.

The Reds are 4 up for the two WC slots (over the 48-44 Dodgers).

Best thing for the Reds/Pirates is to hope the WC comes from the NL East and the NL Central. Which are the two best divisions so that would be the natural and just outcome. So keep rooting against those Dodgers, Mets and Cardinals during the Votto absence...

Sea Ray
07-18-2012, 08:03 PM
Whew! That was too Cordero like

He did the same thing last night. Those Brewer fans gotta really be chewing up those Rolaids these days

Tom Servo
07-20-2012, 09:44 PM
McCutchen with 2 hits and a walk tonight. He's now batting .372. I mean...this can't possibly last, right?

Mario-Rijo
07-20-2012, 09:46 PM
McCutchen with 2 hits and a walk tonight. He's now batting .372. I mean...this can't possibly last, right?

Guy is hotter than 2 muskrats making out in a wool sock in an oven! But no I don't think he can keep it up, maybe exhaustion will be the determining factor there.

Kc61
07-20-2012, 09:46 PM
Marlins get out of a jam in the seventh on a check swing K. Of course, the Pirates announcers thought he didn't swing.

Anyway, it's 4-3 Bucs over the Marlins headed to the eighth.

Kc61
07-20-2012, 09:53 PM
Marlins scoreless in eighth on double play which shouldn't have been a double play because the second baseman missed the tag but the ump called him out and the Pirates announcers are wild with glee.

VottoFan54
07-20-2012, 09:54 PM
A missed call on a tag in the 8th gave the Pirates an out, 4-3 Pirates in the middle of the 8th.

VottoFan54
07-20-2012, 10:03 PM
Omar Infante leads off the ninth with a single.

Kc61
07-20-2012, 10:04 PM
First and third for Marlins.

Bad sac attempt so one out.

Kearns with the second hit in the inning.

VottoFan54
07-20-2012, 10:05 PM
Austin Kearns adds a one out single. Runners on first and third with Jose Reyes coming up and one out.

VottoFan54
07-20-2012, 10:08 PM
Reyes strikes out swinging. Runners on second and third with two outs and Bonifacio up.

VottoFan54
07-20-2012, 10:09 PM
Game over. Pirates win 4-3.

Kc61
07-20-2012, 10:10 PM
Reyes strike out on pitch in the dirt was the big out there. Too bad.

dougdirt
07-20-2012, 10:20 PM
Braves were down 9-0. Now down 9-8 in the middle of the 8th.

Kc61
07-20-2012, 10:24 PM
Jerry Hairston Jr. just made a nice play at third to throw out his brother Scott Hairston. And Jerry seemed rather pleased.

VottoFan54
07-20-2012, 10:43 PM
Braves were down 9-0. Now down 9-8 in the middle of the 8th.

Braves just took a 10-9 lead after a 2 run triple by Bourn. Janish scored the go ahead run. This is a fun game.

Kc61
07-20-2012, 11:03 PM
Braves just took a 10-9 lead after a 2 run triple by Bourn. Janish scored the go ahead run. This is a fun game.

Wild game. 10-10 now. Espinosa homered against the great Braves closer to tie it up. Nats coming up with a chance to win.

Kc61
07-20-2012, 11:17 PM
11-10 Braves on a bloop hit by (drum roll) -- Janish.

Top of the eleventh.

Now, game over, Braves beat Nats coming from nine runs back.

Nats announcers taking it well.

dougdirt
07-20-2012, 11:51 PM
Mariners and Rays are into the 14th.

redsfaninbsg
07-21-2012, 12:01 AM
Don't look now but the NL is becoming a jumbled mess amongst the best teams, Washington, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, and San Francisco are all in an incredible race to avoid the Wild Card/obtain the best record.

cumberlandreds
07-21-2012, 11:26 AM
11-10 Braves on a bloop hit by (drum roll) -- Janish.

Top of the eleventh.

Now, game over, Braves beat Nats coming from nine runs back.

Nats announcers taking it well.

Keep eye on the Nats. Blowing a huge lead like that can be the start of a big downward slide for them. They play a doubleheader today. Nats need to at least split.

Kc61
07-21-2012, 04:05 PM
Keep eye on the Nats. Blowing a huge lead like that can be the start of a big downward slide for them. They play a doubleheader today. Nats need to at least split.

Nats trail Braves in first game 4-0 late. Chipper with pinch homer, Juan Francisco two hits, Soft J a hit and run scored.

Braves won.

If Braves beat Nats in game two and the Reds win - Reds will have the best record in the NL.

_Sir_Charles_
07-21-2012, 05:10 PM
I'm not sure I've ever seen this before. Giants & Phillies today. BOTH pitchers have homered. Cain & Hamels. Unreal.

cumberlandreds
07-21-2012, 05:12 PM
Nats trail Braves in first game 4-0 late. Chipper with pinch homer, Juan Francisco two hits, Soft J a hit and run scored.

Braves won.

If Braves beat Nats in game two and the Reds win - Reds will have the best record in the NL.


This is a huge game tonight for the Nats. Things could really spiral away from quickly if they lose again.

DGullett35
07-21-2012, 05:20 PM
I don't know about all you guys but Im getting tried of all the Nats talk by MLB network and ESPN and other media publications. They get almost as much pub as the Yankees or BoSox. When I see Nats I still think Expos. I get they're a good team but Harper making the all-star team kinda sickened me. I dont think he deserved it. Also those gold shoes he wore were crap:) I hope the Braves take all 4 of these games. I think there only a game and a half out now so they could possibly take over first place tomm. if they sweep.

Tony Cloninger
07-21-2012, 09:07 PM
Pirates batted around and scored 4 runs....without getting 1 hit.

This team is winning uglier than the 1983 White Sox.

gilpdawg
07-21-2012, 09:34 PM
Nats trail Braves in first game 4-0 late. Chipper with pinch homer, Juan Francisco two hits, Soft J a hit and run scored.

Braves won.

If Braves beat Nats in game two and the Reds win - Reds will have the best record in the NL.

But, but, but.....the Reds aren't good!

klw
07-21-2012, 09:38 PM
Cards have dropped 9 on the Cubs in the bottom of 7 with 5 doubles and a triple in the inning.

klw
07-21-2012, 09:46 PM
2 more doubles. Cards now up 12-0. 7 doubles, 1 triple this inning. Still batting. 7 doubles in an inning must be a record. 16th hitter of inning now up.

Classic! Beltran k's but the pitch got away and he reaches safely. It continues.

Brutus
07-21-2012, 09:50 PM
2 more doubles. Cards now up 12-0. 7 doubles, 1 triple this inning. Still batting. 7 doubles in an inning must be a record. 16th hitter of inning now up.

Classic! Beltran k's but the pitch got away and he reaches safely. It continues.

I'm not sure what's more amazing: 4 runs in an inning without a hit or 12 runs in an inning without a homer.

Chip R
07-21-2012, 09:52 PM
Oh, those Cubs.

reds44
07-23-2012, 09:36 PM
Soriano with a pair of RBI doubles.

2-0 Cubs in the 9th over the Pirates.

Tony Cloninger
07-23-2012, 09:57 PM
Smaradja?? Well anyways.....he was at 99 pitches....1 hitter...and you bring in the Implosion himself...Marmol? Bad move IMO. It's not like the starter was overworked at all.

Virginia Beach Reds
07-23-2012, 10:11 PM
Pirates lose. Chance to separate a game here...

DGullett35
07-24-2012, 03:47 AM
Shiver me Timbers were 1.5 games up on those pesky Pirates now. They had one hit going into the 9th and I know Marmol gave up another one. Cubs have been playing decent actually. Hopefully they can steal 2 of 3. The Buccos play great at home though. The Crads have Kershaw tomm. night. Lets hope he shuts them out. Wouldnt it be great to distance ourselve while Votto is out? I was hoping for us to be maybe 3 out. I feel like we can gain ground right now even without him. Reds are playing the best baseball they've played all year.

Brutus
07-24-2012, 04:27 AM
Shiver me Timbers were 1.5 games up on those pesky Pirates now. They had one hit going into the 9th and I know Marmol gave up another one. Cubs have been playing decent actually. Hopefully they can steal 2 of 3. The Buccos play great at home though. The Crads have Kershaw tomm. night. Lets hope he shuts them out. Wouldnt it be great to distance ourselve while Votto is out? I was hoping for us to be maybe 3 out. I feel like we can gain ground right now even without him. Reds are playing the best baseball they've played all year.

The Cubbies that just got outscored 23-1 this past series?

:beerme:

PuffyPig
07-24-2012, 09:00 AM
The Cubbies that just got outscored 23-1 this past series?

:beerme:

But before that series they were 14-5. So they have now won 15 out of there last 23, or 15-8.

redsfaninbsg
07-24-2012, 07:35 PM
Cubs up 1-0 in the 3rd on a Castro homer.

reds44
07-24-2012, 08:26 PM
Soriano is a Pirates killer.

5-1.

RedlegJake
07-24-2012, 11:17 PM
2.5 games up on the Pirates and 6 on the Cardinals.

cumberlandreds
07-25-2012, 01:24 PM
Cubs/Pirates playing a day game. Cubs lead 2-1 in the third.

cumberlandreds
07-25-2012, 01:57 PM
Pirates tie up the Cubs with a McKenry HR. 2-2 after five.

Kc61
07-25-2012, 03:18 PM
Pirates won today avoiding the sweep.

Meanwhile, Atlanta is well ahead today and one, Juan Francisco, is 3 for 4 with a homer and 3 RBI. His OBP is still unacceptably low, but his SLG is up to .466 in limited at bats.

DGullett35
07-26-2012, 12:12 AM
Cards win 3-2. Furcal walk off single

vaticanplum
07-26-2012, 12:29 AM
The Yankees are the only team in baseball that have more wins than the Reds right now. Yanks have 59; Nats, Rangers and Reds are all at 58.

DGullett35
07-26-2012, 12:53 AM
Kinda blows that the Pirates get to come to Houston for 4. The Stro's have to win one soon though. They've lost 9 straight.

WVRedsFan
07-26-2012, 01:12 AM
And yet no love from MLB or ESPN. Instead, they gush about the Cardinals. Sick.

757690
07-26-2012, 01:44 AM
And yet no love from MLB or ESPN. Instead, they gush about the Cardinals. Sick.

Beating the Astros really isn't news ;)

DGullett35
07-26-2012, 01:58 AM
You may be right 757690 but going 11-2 since the break is.

fearofpopvol1
07-26-2012, 03:07 AM
You may be right 757690 but going 11-2 since the break is.

And if you go before the break, the Reds won 3 games leading up to the break. So in their last 16 games, they are 14-2. I know some people hate cherrypicking, but that is pretty amazing.

Also, I'm not bothered that ESPN is gushing over the Cards. They did air their game tonight against the Dodgers and the Cards won in a somewhat dramatic fashion in extra innings.

cumberlandreds
07-26-2012, 07:41 AM
Kinda blows that the Pirates get to come to Houston for 4. The Stro's have to win one soon though. They've lost 9 straight.

You would think the law of averages would kick in at some point. If the Astros win one this weekend I would be happy. I hope the Reds can get another sweep against the Rocks. They may need it to keep first place by themselves.

BuckeyeRedleg
07-26-2012, 08:24 AM
Of the 64 games remaining for the Reds, only three opponents have winning records.

PIT x 9
STL x 6
LA x 3

So 72% of the remaining schedule are against teams currently .500 or below.

Nice.

cumberlandreds
07-26-2012, 09:07 AM
Of the 64 games remaining for the Reds, only three opponents have winning records.

PIT x 9
STL x 6
LA x 3

So 72% of the remaining schedule are against teams currently .500 or below.

Nice.

How about the Pirates and Cards? With dregs like the Astros and Cubs in the divsion and with the Brewers falling off the table I would think all three teams would be very similar. I think it will come down to how those three teams do against each other head to head.

CySeymour
07-26-2012, 09:45 AM
How about the Pirates and Cards? With dregs like the Astros and Cubs in the divsion and with the Brewers falling off the table I would think all three teams would be very similar. I think it will come down to how those three teams do against each other head to head.

And the Reds have been awful against the Pirates this year, so those 9 games could loom large.

Give the Pirates a lot of credit for hanging in while the Reds run off a hot streak.

Homer Bailey
07-26-2012, 09:50 AM
How about the Pirates and Cards? With dregs like the Astros and Cubs in the divsion and with the Brewers falling off the table I would think all three teams would be very similar. I think it will come down to how those three teams do against each other head to head.

There are only 7 teams with winning records in the NL.

Pirates:

9 vs. CIN
4 vs. LA
6 vs. Stl.
3 vs. ATL

22 of their remaining 65 against above .500 teams.

Cardinals:

5 vs. LAD
4 vs. SFG
6 vs. PIT
7 vs. WAS
6 vs. CIN

28 of their remaining 64 games against above .500

WildcatFan
07-26-2012, 10:05 AM
Does anyone feel like the Pirates are one injury away from free-falling? I would have said the same thing about Cincinnati until, well, this week. That's what separates these two teams, IMO. The Cards still worry me the most.

BuckeyeRedleg
07-26-2012, 10:35 AM
There are only 7 teams with winning records in the NL.

Pirates:

9 vs. CIN
4 vs. LA
6 vs. Stl.
3 vs. ATL

22 of their remaining 65 against above .500 teams.

Cardinals:

5 vs. LAD
4 vs. SFG
6 vs. PIT
7 vs. WAS
6 vs. CIN

28 of their remaining 64 games against above .500

I like it.

cumberlandreds
07-26-2012, 11:24 AM
There are only 7 teams with winning records in the NL.

Pirates:

9 vs. CIN
4 vs. LA
6 vs. Stl.
3 vs. ATL

22 of their remaining 65 against above .500 teams.

Cardinals:

5 vs. LAD
4 vs. SFG
6 vs. PIT
7 vs. WAS
6 vs. CIN

28 of their remaining 64 games against above .500

Thanks! The Reds have a small upper hand on the Pirates. But they will need to beat the Bucs when they play them. The Cards schedule is more difficult. Washington could knock them out with those 7 big games with them. I have tickets for a game in September to see the Nats and Cards. I know who I will be rooting for. :)

Homer Bailey
07-26-2012, 11:45 AM
Thanks! The Reds have a small upper hand on the Pirates. But they will need to beat the Bucs when they play them. The Cards schedule is more difficult. Washington could knock them out with those 7 big games with them. I have tickets for a game in September to see the Nats and Cards. I know who I will be rooting for. :)

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Hopefully we're rooting against the Nats at that point because the Cards are out of it, and we need home field advantage.

cumberlandreds
07-26-2012, 12:51 PM
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Hopefully we're rooting against the Nats at that point because the Cards are out of it, and we need home field advantage.

That's true but I think the Cards will be closer to the Reds at that point than the Pirates. I hope it is at the point of rooting for home field. That would be great in my book.

Reds/Flyers Fan
07-26-2012, 12:56 PM
There are only 7 teams with winning records in the NL.

Pirates:

9 vs. CIN
4 vs. LA
6 vs. Stl.
3 vs. ATL

22 of their remaining 65 against above .500 teams.

Cardinals:

5 vs. LAD
4 vs. SFG
6 vs. PIT
7 vs. WAS
6 vs. CIN

28 of their remaining 64 games against above .500

Love seeing those games against the Giants, Nats and Pirates for the dirty birds!

MikeThierry
07-26-2012, 01:31 PM
Is looking at the winning record a bit deceptive? I brought this up in another thread but the Reds still play 7 games against the Phillies, they have a series against the Mets, and a series against the D-Backs. Those aren't exactly push overs. Do you really think the Phillies are on the same level as the Royals or Astros? With their injured players coming back, they will be a tough opponent. Don't think for one minute that those are automatic wins.

RedlegJake
07-26-2012, 02:51 PM
Mike - the fans might overlook the Phils but I'll bet you anything the Reds players aren't! They'll know how dangerous those guys are and they won't be looking past them or taking them lightly.

Homer Bailey
07-26-2012, 02:55 PM
Is looking at the winning record a bit deceptive? I brought this up in another thread but the Reds still play 7 games against the Phillies, they have a series against the Mets, and a series against the D-Backs. Those aren't exactly push overs. Do you really think the Phillies are on the same level as the Royals or Astros? With their injured players coming back, they will be a tough opponent. Don't think for one minute that those are automatic wins.

Not deceptive at all. Cardinals have more games remaining against above average teams. No one said every team under .500 is a pushover. Reds will just be playing more games against teams that aren't in any kind of race. That absolutely means something.

PuffyPig
07-26-2012, 03:11 PM
Not deceptive at all. Cardinals have more games remaining against above average teams. No one said every team under .500 is a pushover. Reds will just be playing more games against teams that aren't in any kind of race. That absolutely means something.


Especially when the Cards have been, since April, particularly inept vs. teams above .500.

Brutus
07-26-2012, 03:22 PM
Is looking at the winning record a bit deceptive? I brought this up in another thread but the Reds still play 7 games against the Phillies, they have a series against the Mets, and a series against the D-Backs. Those aren't exactly push overs. Do you really think the Phillies are on the same level as the Royals or Astros? With their injured players coming back, they will be a tough opponent. Don't think for one minute that those are automatic wins.

I haven't taken the time to verify this, but according to a poster on one of the Cards' boards last night, the Reds have actually had a tougher SOS to this point in the season than the Cardinals have, and going forward, the Reds' schedule is actually easier than the Cardinals by way of SOS.

traderumor
07-26-2012, 03:26 PM
Is looking at the winning record a bit deceptive? I brought this up in another thread but the Reds still play 7 games against the Phillies, they have a series against the Mets, and a series against the D-Backs. Those aren't exactly push overs. Do you really think the Phillies are on the same level as the Royals or Astros? With their injured players coming back, they will be a tough opponent. Don't think for one minute that those are automatic wins.Here's what I think the Standings will look like through 8/19, which is when the Reds see the Phils for the first time this year:

Reds 73-49
Pirates 66-54 6 GB
Cardinals 66-55 6-1/2 GB

Here's the method to my madness:
Reds vs. Col 2-1 vs. SD 3-1 vs. Pitt 2-1 vs. Mil 1-2 vs. Chc 2-2 vs. NYM 2-1 vs. Chc 3-1 Overall 15-9
Pirates vs. Hou. 2-2 vs. Chc 2-1 vs. Cin 1-2 vs. Ari 1-2 vs. SD 2-1 vs. LA 2-2 vs. St. L 1-2 Overall 11-12
Cards vs. LAD 1-0 vs. Chc 2-1 vs. Col 2-1 vs. Mil 2-1 vs. SF 2-2 vs. Phi 1-2 vs Ari 2-1 vs. Pit 2-1 Overall 14-9

The Reds did a lot of heavy lifting in the first half of the season and are so far reaping the benefits of the schedule opening up for them and still playing good baseball. Sure, its MLB, so they could go 9-15 vs. those same opponents, but all things being equal, based on the three teams opponents, the Reds should be in pretty good shape with 40 games to go.

Patrick Bateman
07-26-2012, 03:40 PM
Is looking at the winning record a bit deceptive? I brought this up in another thread but the Reds still play 7 games against the Phillies, they have a series against the Mets, and a series against the D-Backs. Those aren't exactly push overs. Do you really think the Phillies are on the same level as the Royals or Astros? With their injured players coming back, they will be a tough opponent. Don't think for one minute that those are automatic wins.

Weird post.

Where are the "automatic wins" on the Cards schedule?

vaticanplum
07-26-2012, 06:30 PM
I will never rest any easier with the Reds playing ostensibly poorer teams. Almost the opposite, in fact. The Reds seem to have a habit of playing to their opponents' abilities, though I haven't checked their opponent above/below .500 W/L record this year.

Homer Bailey
07-26-2012, 06:39 PM
I will never rest any easier with the Reds playing ostensibly poorer teams. Almost the opposite, in fact. The Reds seem to have a habit of playing to their opponents' abilities, though I haven't checked their opponent above/below .500 W/L record this year.

By my count, the Reds are 31-14 against teams with records under .500.

cincrazy
07-26-2012, 10:04 PM
The last three regular season games of 1999 still haunt me. Lost two of three to a crap Brewers team, and ended up losing a 1 game wild card playoff as a result.

kaldaniels
07-26-2012, 10:12 PM
The last three regular season games of 1999 still haunt me. Lost two of three to a crap Brewers team, and ended up losing a 1 game wild card playoff as a result.

It might still give you nightmares, but don't let it bother you going forward. Who is even left over from 1999 that still has a important role in this organization?

Crumbley
07-26-2012, 10:52 PM
It might still give you nightmares, but don't let it bother you going forward. Who is even left over from 1999 that still has a important role in this organization?
Schottzie's ghost.

fearofpopvol1
07-26-2012, 11:27 PM
The Cards do not have an easy August at all. The Reds absolutely have an easier road the rest of the way than the Cards, if we're using the metric of fewest games against .500 teams.

Big Klu
07-27-2012, 03:20 AM
It might still give you nightmares, but don't let it bother you going forward. Who is even left over from 1999 that still has a important role in this organization?

Marty Brennaman, Chris Welsh, Bernie Stowe, Rick Stowe, and Mark Stowe.

757690
07-27-2012, 03:25 AM
Is looking at the winning record a bit deceptive? I brought this up in another thread but the Reds still play 7 games against the Phillies, they have a series against the Mets, and a series against the D-Backs. Those aren't exactly push overs. Do you really think the Phillies are on the same level as the Royals or Astros? With their injured players coming back, they will be a tough opponent. Don't think for one minute that those are automatic wins.

This is a very good point. A team's record at this point is not the best indication of how difficult it will be to beat them. Besides, I have always felt that strength of schedule in baseball was over-rated. It's history is lined with bottom dwellers spoiling playoff chances.

Tony Cloninger
07-27-2012, 09:25 AM
The last three regular season games of 1999 still haunt me. Lost two of three to a crap Brewers team, and ended up losing a 1 game wild card playoff as a result.

I recall that very well...and a blown save by Williamson on an Omar Vizquel 2 run homer in CLE.....and another blown lead of about 4-5 runs vs Chicago at Home....with Jose Guzman as the starter but I think Graves blew the game.

I recall many people on fastball.com talking about how McKeon was blowing the bullpen up by overusing them. I loved it beacuse he would use all 3 as middle men and closers as well... 2 innings they would on many occasions. The starters on that team killed that bullpen. I also remembered those who wanted D Young to start and did not like the Tucker/Hammonds platoon.

Scrap Irony
07-27-2012, 10:08 AM
This is a very good point. A team's record at this point is not the best indication of how difficult it will be to beat them. Besides, I have always felt that strength of schedule in baseball was over-rated. It's history is lined with bottom dwellers spoiling playoff chances.

The difference is that bottom-dwellers tend to deal their better players sometime between now and September, so they're even worse than they are now.

For example, The Phillies could very well lose Rollins, Pence, Victorino, and Lee between now and the time Cincinnati plays them. (They could have also lost Hamels before signing him to a LTC.) The D-Backs could lose Upton and closer JJ Putz, not to mention SS Drew. They've already lost their 3B.

As we saw with the Astros' bullpen, that may mean the difference between a win and a loss. Too, with each loss, teams are looking at higher draft picks in the draft. Some teams aren't exactly tanking, but the front office and GMs? They're not minding the losses, especially as it also gets you more money for your slot.

Tom Servo
07-27-2012, 08:50 PM
Houston up 3-0 on Pittsburgh in the third.

marcshoe
07-27-2012, 10:10 PM
Houston is up by one now. They're not still using CoCo as a closer, are they?

hebroncougar
07-27-2012, 11:00 PM
Houston is up by one now. They're not still using CoCo as a closer, are they?

No, they brought in a lefty specialist to strike out Alvarez. Now some guy named Cruz who has a 6.88 era is trying to close it out.

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hebroncougar
07-27-2012, 11:04 PM
Now its first and second with one out.

marcshoe
07-27-2012, 11:08 PM
Bases loaded. Cedeno coming in to pitch.

marcshoe
07-27-2012, 11:10 PM
Tied up. Marte sac fly.

marcshoe
07-27-2012, 11:12 PM
Sutton scores on a wp. This game looks familier.

traderumor
07-27-2012, 11:32 PM
Will the Astros win again. They might have well rolled the dice with Cordero again.

Kc61
07-27-2012, 11:37 PM
Will the Astros win again. They might have well rolled the dice with Cordero again.

Cordero was "not available."

DGullett35
07-27-2012, 11:37 PM
I recall that very well...and a blown save by Williamson on an Omar Vizquel 2 run homer in CLE.....and another blown lead of about 4-5 runs vs Chicago at Home....with Jose Guzman as the starter but I think Graves blew the game.

I recall many people on fastball.com talking about how McKeon was blowing the bullpen up by overusing them. I loved it beacuse he would use all 3 as middle men and closers as well... 2 innings they would on many occasions. The starters on that team killed that bullpen. I also remembered those who wanted D Young to start and did not like the Tucker/Hammonds platoon.

I was at the Cleveland game when Vizquel hit that homer to win. He hit it right next to the Reds bullpen and we were about 5 rows from where it landed. That is a haunting memory especially when u attended the game

Tom Servo
07-28-2012, 01:28 PM
Cardinals put up a run in the first against Chicago thanks to loading up the bases with walks to start the inning, but the Cubs now respond with a 2 run Soriano triple. 2-1 the lesser of two evils.

Kc61
07-28-2012, 02:37 PM
Cubs 2 Cards 1 in the sixth today, Saturday.

Tom Servo
07-28-2012, 02:43 PM
Cards tie it up 2-2 with a bases loaded sac fly.

Tom Servo
07-28-2012, 03:22 PM
Cubs retake the lead on a run scoring bunt single.

reds44
07-28-2012, 03:26 PM
What a terrible call at 1st base in the Cubs game. Who needs replay though, right?

Tom Servo
07-28-2012, 03:30 PM
What a terrible call at 1st base in the Cubs game. Who needs replay though, right?
Yeah Castro was clearly safe, I didn't even need to see the replay.

reds44
07-28-2012, 03:30 PM
https://yfrog.com/ntmthnvj:iphone

Tom Servo
07-28-2012, 03:39 PM
Bottom of the 8th now. Cubs three outs away in the 9th from nailing it down.

cincrazy
07-28-2012, 04:01 PM
Marmol puts the tying run in scoring position, but the Cubbies escape with a 3-2 win. Maybe they aren't good for nothing after all.

Degenerate39
07-28-2012, 04:11 PM
Marmol puts the tying run in scoring position, but the Cubbies escape with a 3-2 win. Maybe they aren't good for nothing after all.

Now only if the Astros can prove their good for something.

Scrap Irony
07-28-2012, 04:14 PM
They're definitely due.

Go... Astros?

dougdirt
07-28-2012, 04:16 PM
Marmol puts the tying run in scoring position, but the Cubbies escape with a 3-2 win. Maybe they aren't good for nothing after all.

Crazy talk! :lol:

cincrazy
07-28-2012, 04:21 PM
Crazy talk! :lol:

Yeah, ya got me ;)

cincrazy
07-28-2012, 04:21 PM
Now only if the Astros can prove their good for something.

The Astros would have trouble breaking their losing streak against the Long Island Ducks tonight, unfortunately.

Revering4Blue
07-28-2012, 04:22 PM
Wandy Rodriguez is scheduled to make his Pirates debut tonight against his former team.

The opposing starter, fresh from Triple-A, Armando Galarraga.

One other note: Co-Co has been dealing with a sprained toe. His status for tonight's game is questionable.

Vottomatic
07-28-2012, 06:02 PM
Cubs beat the Cards 3-2 this afternoon.

RedlegJake
07-28-2012, 07:59 PM
Love the Cards losing. Now if the 'Stros can end their futility streak.

Degenerate39
07-28-2012, 08:12 PM
Pirates up 2-1. Bottom of the 4th currently going on

marcshoe
07-28-2012, 10:30 PM
Houston just officially forfeited the rest of their games this season. Well, if they did it would be less painful to watch. One more loss to the Pirates.

fearofpopvol1
07-28-2012, 11:45 PM
What's interesting, when looking at the schedules, is that the Reds have the easiest August while the Pirates have the tougher August and the Reds have the tougher September while the Pirates have the easier one. The Cardinals have a tough August as well, with a modest September.

Kc61
07-28-2012, 11:47 PM
What's interesting, when looking at the schedules, is that the Reds have the easiest August while the Pirates have the tougher August and the Reds have the tougher September while the Pirates have the easier one. The Cardinals have a tough August as well, with a modest September.

Last six games for Reds this year at Pitt then at Cards. Wish they were home games.

redsmetz
07-29-2012, 06:37 AM
Guess this is as good a place as any, but with the Yankees losing yesterday and we and the Nats both winning; we have a three way tie for best records in MLB.

buckeyenut
07-29-2012, 09:03 AM
Love the Cards losing. Now if the 'Stros can end their futility streak.with the way we and PIT are playing could they be sellers at the deadline?

_Sir_Charles_
07-29-2012, 10:37 AM
with the way we and PIT are playing could they be sellers at the deadline?

The Astros? I'd say yes. :D

medford
07-29-2012, 04:16 PM
Pirates down 5-2 to start the 6th. load the based w/ 2 outs, bringin McCutchen to pinch hit for the SS and he pops up to 2nd. James McDonald struggled big time today, 110 innings thru 5 with 7 walks and the 5 earned runs. Can't believe we're still talking Pirates this late in the season, kind of a fun change vs focusing all in on the Brew Crew & especially the Cards the last couple of seasons.

medford
07-29-2012, 04:51 PM
Washington is lossing in Milwaukee 7-3 after 7. If things hold up there, and the Reds retain their lead in Colorado, they'll end the day w/ sole possessin of best recrod in the NL and a shot at sole possession in all of baseball depending on what the Yankees do verse the RedSox tonight.

Vottomatic
07-29-2012, 05:14 PM
Cordero actually strikes out 2 in the 8th. Astros up 9-3.

Vottomatic
07-29-2012, 05:29 PM
Top of the 9th for the Pirates, they get the first 3 men on, score 1 run with men on first and third. Then Neil Walker K's. Garrett Jones at the plate.

Mario-Rijo
07-29-2012, 05:31 PM
Top of the 9th for the Pirates, they get the first 3 men on, score 1 run with men on first and third. Then Neil Walker K's. Garrett Jones at the plate.

9-5 Houston snapping a 12 game skid! :beerme:

757690
07-29-2012, 05:45 PM
Cubs beat Cards 4-2. Two run homer by Rizzo in the 10th.

Degenerate39
07-29-2012, 06:39 PM
Washington beat Milwaukee 11-10 in 11 innings. Tied for best record in baseball 61-40

WildcatFan
07-29-2012, 07:12 PM
Washington beat Milwaukee 11-10 in 11 innings. Tied for best record in baseball 61-40

Milwaukee was up 9-7 in the ninth. Buncha punks.

mbgrayson
07-30-2012, 11:17 PM
Cubbies pulverize Pirates, 14-4. One of the few times I enjoy hearing that dumb 'Go Cubs Go' song.

Sea Ray
07-31-2012, 09:41 AM
Washington beat Milwaukee 11-10 in 11 innings. Tied for best record in baseball 61-40

What's happened to F-Rod? He's saved 3 and blown 6. Not a good percentage. And some of those 3 saves were nail biters.

Seems like the Reds singlehandedly ended the Brewers season. Just a little over a week ago they came to town still in the race. The Reds swept 'em, they traded their ace and now they're 15 games back and time to start talking Packers football on the east shore of Wisconsin

Sea Ray
08-01-2012, 10:01 AM
Can someone explain to me how Franklin Morales got a save in yesterday's rain shortened game vs the Detroit Tigers? First of all the Tigers are ticked that the game was called as they were batting in the top of the 6th with 2 out and the bases loaded:

http://aol.sportingnews.com/mlb/box-score/320731102/detroit-tigers--boston-red-sox

Morales comes in and gets one out, allows a single and a walk to load the bases and then the rain comes. Is that the cheapest save ever? Seems to me that in order to get a save, the last play of a game has to be an out. How do you get a save when your last two hitters get a base hit and a walk?

Chip R
08-01-2012, 10:32 AM
Can someone explain to me how Franklin Morales got a save in yesterday's rain shortened game vs the Detroit Tigers? First of all the Tigers are ticked that the game was called as they were batting in the top of the 6th with 2 out and the bases loaded:

http://aol.sportingnews.com/mlb/box-score/320731102/detroit-tigers--boston-red-sox

Morales comes in and gets one out, allows a single and a walk to load the bases and then the rain comes. Is that the cheapest save ever? Seems to me that in order to get a save, the last play of a game has to be an out. How do you get a save when your last two hitters get a base hit and a walk?

Tying run was on deck when he got into the game.

Sea Ray
08-01-2012, 10:38 AM
Tying run was on deck when he got into the game.

I understand that but he didn't even retire the last two hitters.

Chip R
08-01-2012, 10:44 AM
I understand that but he didn't even retire the last two hitters.

Doesn't matter. He met all the criteria of a save.

Sea Ray
08-01-2012, 10:48 AM
Doesn't matter. He met all the criteria of a save.

That's my point. I think that criteria needs an adjustment. I don't think rain shortened games should qualify for obvious reasons. In this case the guy gets a save for loading the bases and not retiring another batter. That's not right

Chip R
08-01-2012, 10:54 AM
That's my point. I think that criteria needs an adjustment. I don't think rain shortened games should qualify for obvious reasons. In this case the guy gets a save for loading the bases and not retiring another batter. That's not right

Well, when you get on the rules committee you can make that adjustment. No one said it was right or just. You asked why he got a save.

cumberlandreds
08-01-2012, 01:07 PM
What's happened to F-Rod? He's saved 3 and blown 6. Not a good percentage. And some of those 3 saves were nail biters.

Seems like the Reds singlehandedly ended the Brewers season. Just a little over a week ago they came to town still in the race. The Reds swept 'em, they traded their ace and now they're 15 games back and time to start talking Packers football on the east shore of Wisconsin

The Brewers cashed it in after the Reds swept them. I think they put the whole season on that series. I think F-Rod was one that said they had to win all three to get back into the race.

757690
08-01-2012, 01:23 PM
That's my point. I think that criteria needs an adjustment. I don't think rain shortened games should qualify for obvious reasons. In this case the guy gets a save for loading the bases and not retiring another batter. That's not right

Not to derail this thread, but the save rule needs major retooling, imo. Personally, I think you should only get a save if the tying run is at bat when you enter. No more saves for protecting a three run led when you start an inning.

marcshoe
08-01-2012, 02:51 PM
Cubs up 1-0 over Pirates on a Castro home run after 2. Travis Wood pitching for the Cubs.

Scrap Irony
08-01-2012, 03:19 PM
Cubs up 1-0 over Pirates on a Castro home run after 2. Travis Wood pitching for the Cubs.

Wood pitching means Cubs will need to score every inning to compete. Or he'll throw a shutout.

He's been Jeckyll and Hyde.

Reminds me of Red hurlers from the Lost Decade, really. Just enough great outings to keep you emotionally invested.

marcshoe
08-01-2012, 03:26 PM
Pirates up 2-1. This is difficult to watch; I keep remembering how much I hate the Cubs.

Sea Ray
08-01-2012, 04:17 PM
Not to derail this thread, but the save rule needs major retooling, imo. Personally, I think you should only get a save if the tying run is at bat when you enter. No more saves for protecting a three run led when you start an inning.

I agree with you but I also don't think a save should be awarded when a guy fills the bases with base runners and the umps call the game due to rain. That was my point in bringing this up.

Tom Servo
08-01-2012, 05:17 PM
Cubs gave up 5 runs in the 8th. I hate them.

Reds/Flyers Fan
08-01-2012, 05:22 PM
Cubs gave up 5 runs in the 8th. I hate them.

They beat the annoying Pirates three times in the last week ... I'll take that.

vaticanplum
08-02-2012, 01:58 AM
There are only four teams in baseball with better records than the Pirates and they still have a losing record *away* (not at home as I said when I first wrote this post). I don't normally put a whole lot of stock into home/away splits, but with them it really is extraordinary. They inordinately favor that park.

traderumor
08-02-2012, 08:17 AM
The Brewers won the division last year with a flukey home record. But then, they had a better team than the Pirates.

Brutus
08-02-2012, 09:47 PM
Unrelated to NL action, Ryan Dempster has been tattooed in his first start tonight for the Rangers. The Angels have lit him up for a pair of homers and 7 runs in four innings.

The Rockies are up one-nil on the Cardinals in the 4th inning in Denver.

Brutus
08-02-2012, 11:07 PM
Rockies put a 3-spot on the board in the 7th inning to jump ahead 5-2 on St. Louis. They got a 1-2-3 8th inning so they'll head to the bottom of the 8th with a 3-run lead.

Brutus
08-02-2012, 11:13 PM
Razor Ramon doubles in a run. 6-2 Colorado.

Brutus
08-02-2012, 11:18 PM
2-run dinger for Willin Rosario. 8-2 Rocks.

mbgrayson
08-02-2012, 11:29 PM
Rockies beat Cardinals 8 to 2 (We get free tacos!).

Berkman grounded out to 2nd in the 9th, and looked like he was hurting. He went half way to first, grimacing and in pain.

cincrazy
08-02-2012, 11:51 PM
Rockies beat Cardinals 8 to 2 (We get free tacos!).

Berkman grounded out to 2nd in the 9th, and looked like he was hurting. He went half way to first, grimacing and in pain.

Him sitting would probably make them better. Allen Craig was on the bench tonight. And anytime Craig is on the bench and Berkman is in the lineup, it probably hurts St. Louis at this point.

Scrap Irony
08-03-2012, 12:03 AM
3.5 ahead of Pittsburgh

8 ahead of St. Louis

Really, really nice to see for Cincinnati fans.

WVRedsFan
08-03-2012, 12:23 AM
Gotta win 2 games this weekend. No other result will suffice. Build that lead. A sweep would be awesome (+3 games=6.5 game lead), but two of three gives the Reds a 4.5 game lead. Perfect.

VR
08-03-2012, 12:44 AM
Gotta win 2 games this weekend. No other result will suffice. Build that lead. A sweep would be awesome (+3 games=6.5 game lead), but two of three gives the Reds a 4.5 game lead. Perfect.

After a rocky start to the Pads series.....they are amazingly going into the weekend fresh. Key bullpen arms are rested, and good combination on offense of having guys rested AND the whole roster having seen quality PT...they should all be sharp.

Starters have had a tough time through the last rotation.....let's hope they are a bit sharper this weekend.

oregonred
08-03-2012, 12:53 AM
Reds are now 8 up in the wildcard hunt over the 56-49 Cardinals. Dodgers are fading again, the Giants are floundering while the DBacks are surging. Reds, Braves and Pirates all playing unreal baseball the last few weeks.

So the Reds, Nats, Braves, Pirates continue to separate themselves with the NL West winner as the last playoff slot.

The only possible team that is an additional threat to these five playoff teams would be the Cardinals. So every Cards loss is gravy at this point.

Scrap Irony
08-03-2012, 11:15 AM
After a rocky start to the Pads series.....they are amazingly going into the weekend fresh. Key bullpen arms are rested, and good combination on offense of having guys rested AND the whole roster having seen quality PT...they should all be sharp.

Starters have had a tough time through the last rotation.....let's hope they are a bit sharper this weekend.

This is an underrated part of the manager's job. And Baker's done a good job with his 'pen. In fact, I'd argue that he's done a great job with both that and his regulars.

Rolen, Ludwick, Bruce, Stubbs, even Cozart have been given time to rest within the season, while hte team kept on winning. (That, IMO, is the mark of a good manager-- winning in spite of key injuries and weaknesses apparent in team construction.) The injuries to Votto and Phillips may keep both guys fresh and slugging at the end of the season when others are worn out.

gilpdawg
08-04-2012, 02:27 AM
Fun game going on in Oakland for the late night crew. Going to the 14th, and Toronto is out of position players and have lost their DH.

Big Klu
08-04-2012, 02:35 AM
Fun game going on in Oakland for the late night crew. Going to the 14th, and Toronto is out of position players and have lost their DH.

Please tell me EE is playing 3B.

gilpdawg
08-04-2012, 02:42 AM
Please tell me EE is playing 3B.

He's at first. Rasmus got hurt so they had to move their 1B to the outfield and EE moved from DH to first because they were out of players. The pitcher spot is 2nd in the order to top it off.

Now into the 15th.

Tom Servo
08-04-2012, 02:58 AM
Weeks triple and Crisp sac fly wins it for the A's in the 15th. and they're doing the Bernie.

Randy Orton - Movin' Like Bernie - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt_HIH_kRvo)

fearofpopvol1
08-07-2012, 03:26 AM
Bad night for the Reds. Not only did they lose, but BOTH the Pirates and Cardinals won as well.

traderumor
08-07-2012, 12:41 PM
Here's what I think the Standings will look like through 8/19, which is when the Reds see the Phils for the first time this year:

Reds 73-49
Pirates 66-54 6 GB
Cardinals 66-55 6-1/2 GB

Here's the method to my madness:
Reds vs. Col 2-1 vs. SD 3-1 vs. Pitt 2-1 vs. Mil 1-2 vs. Chc 2-2 vs. NYM 2-1 vs. Chc 3-1 Overall 15-9
Pirates vs. Hou. 2-2 vs. Chc 2-1 vs. Cin 1-2 vs. Ari 1-2 vs. SD 2-1 vs. LA 2-2 vs. St. L 1-2 Overall 11-12
Cards vs. LAD 1-0 vs. Chc 2-1 vs. Col 2-1 vs. Mil 2-1 vs. SF 2-2 vs. Phi 1-2 vs Ari 2-1 vs. Pit 2-1 Overall 14-9

The Reds did a lot of heavy lifting in the first half of the season and are so far reaping the benefits of the schedule opening up for them and still playing good baseball. Sure, its MLB, so they could go 9-15 vs. those same opponents, but all things being equal, based on the three teams opponents, the Reds should be in pretty good shape with 40 games to go.

Only quoting myself to see how my prediction is doing
Reds actual 8-2, predicted 7-3 +1 :)
Pirates actual 6-4 predicted 5-5 +1 also, so Reds picked up 2 games as expected
Cards actual 7-3 predicted 7-3, so Reds picked up an extra game.

I was remembering during the loss last night that I have the Reds losing 2 of 3 here and only splitting the Cubs series for a 3-4 week. Helps me stomach the losses ;)

VottoFan54
08-07-2012, 07:16 PM
Pirates are down 1-0 in the first inning. They are playing against the Diamondbacks.

VottoFan54
08-07-2012, 07:24 PM
The Pirates and D-Backs are now tied at 1-1 in the first after Geraldo Parra dropped a routine fly ball with runners on first and third, but he did get a force out at second base.

traderumor
08-07-2012, 11:16 PM
No ground lost tonight. Dbacks rally late against the Pirates pen on a pair of Chris Johnson bombs and the Giants double up on the Cards. Thank you NL West.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 09:38 PM
Pirates commit 3 errors in an inning, still only allow 1 run. :(

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 10:21 PM
Pirates win, Reds lead down to 2.5

MikeThierry
08-08-2012, 10:43 PM
No ground lost tonight. Dbacks rally late against the Pirates pen on a pair of Chris Johnson bombs and the Giants double up on the Cards. Thank you NL West.

You can pretty much thank Voglesong and the ineptitude of Butters for the Cardinals loss. Do the Reds have anyone on their roster on scholarship because we certainly do with Butters.

fearofpopvol1
08-08-2012, 11:50 PM
:shocked: at SF/Cards score! A change in the pythag is a-comin. Sadly, the Pirates won though.

PuffyPig
08-09-2012, 09:30 AM
You can pretty much thank Voglesong and the ineptitude of Butters for the Cardinals loss. Do the Reds have anyone on their roster on scholarship because we certainly do with Butters.

When you lose 15-0 you can pretty much thank everyone.

When the score was 3-0 and the Giants loaded the bases, and Greene let the absolutely perfect DP ball go through his legs, the game was over.

May as well lose 15-0, I really think it makes it easier to win the next one.

RedsManRick
08-09-2012, 12:50 PM
Am I the only one who saw that 15-0 score and thought, "Nice. Now their pythagorean record won't look as good!"

traderumor
08-09-2012, 03:01 PM
Well, off to Siberia for Greene. Traded him to the Astros :lol: After the Gateway Arch imitation using a ground ball last night, he'll fit right in. I imagine that made him attractive--"new moneyball strategy we're employing...get guys who can't field their position, they come very cheap and will allow us to still make payroll with no one in the stands to watch this mess."

redsmetz
08-09-2012, 03:39 PM
Well, off to Siberia for Greene. Traded him to the Astros :lol: After the Gateway Arch imitation using a ground ball last night, he'll fit right in. I imagine that made him attractive--"new moneyball strategy we're employing...get guys who can't field their position, they come very cheap and will allow us to still make payroll with no one in the stands to watch this mess."

Ouch! I'm in DC right now, so I haven't looked at any news. Is this true? If so, what an apt description.

Tom Servo
08-09-2012, 03:40 PM
lol I thought you were joking about Greene being traded to Houston, traderumor. I laughed, and then laughed a little more when I saw it was true.

Tom Servo
08-09-2012, 04:09 PM
Arizona just jumped out to a 2-0 lead in the first with a Kubel HR following a Hill 2B


Pirates already tied it up. Lousy crumb bum Diamondbacks.

cincrazy
08-09-2012, 04:47 PM
I hate our division. Feels like the Pirates and Cards are going to win every single game. It's going to be a blood bath until the end.

CTA513
08-09-2012, 05:46 PM
Diamondbacks take a 4-3 lead over the Pirates on a 2 run homer by Nieves

CTA513
08-09-2012, 06:05 PM
Kubel with another 2 run homer to give the Diamondbacks a 6-3 lead in the 7th inning.

vaticanplum
08-09-2012, 06:46 PM
Kubel with another 2 run homer to give the Diamondbacks a 6-3 lead in the 7th inning.

Radio announcers keep claiming the Pirates are playing in the Central time zone. in Arizona. Finally announcer gets corrected, claims "all the changing times in the summer" as the culprit of his mistake.

edit: Oh. Plus they were playing in Pittsburgh. WTF?

_Sir_Charles_
08-09-2012, 07:08 PM
Gone final. Pirates lose to the D-backs. 6-3

Cards won 3-1

Screwball
08-09-2012, 11:35 PM
Radio announcers keep claiming the Pirates are playing in the Central time zone. in Arizona. Finally announcer gets corrected, claims "all the changing times in the summer" as the culprit of his mistake.

edit: Oh. Plus they were playing in Pittsburgh. WTF?

http://corndogger.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/no-sense-sign-240x300.png

MikeThierry
08-10-2012, 12:51 PM
lol I thought you were joking about Greene being traded to Houston, traderumor. I laughed, and then laughed a little more when I saw it was true.

I wish Butters well but he was a complete waste of space on the 25 man roster. The running joke around here yesterday was that while the Cards didn't have a full 25 man roster in the game yesterday, it could be argued that they didn't have that with Greene on the roster all year. He was arguably the worst player in baseball if you weigh into the conversation him being a part time player. Basically the kid could screw up a good pizza if he got his hands on it. Sounds harsh but it's reality.

NJReds
08-10-2012, 08:40 PM
No help from Volquez tonight. Pirates lead 7-1 in the 4th.

Cards/Phils tied 1-1 after 4

NJReds
08-10-2012, 09:00 PM
3-run HR for Headley ... Pads storm back to tie the Pirates at 7-7

Tom Servo
08-10-2012, 09:26 PM
3-run HR for Headley ... Pads storm back to tie the Pirates at 7-7
I told everyone the Padres had a good offense. :thumbup:

757690
08-10-2012, 09:47 PM
Literally within seconds of each other the two Chase's hit two run bombs. Headley, the second of the night to put the Padres up 9-8 over the Pirates, and Utley to put the Phillies ahead of the Cards 3-1.

Tom Servo
08-10-2012, 10:07 PM
Cardinals lose

cincrazy
08-10-2012, 10:32 PM
Pirates lose 9-8. Heartbreaking loss for them. Let's see how they recover.

For coming off a 5 game losing streak, I'll sure take a 3.5 game lead on Pitt and a 6 game lead on St. Louis. Still in pretty darn good shape.

fearofpopvol1
08-10-2012, 10:36 PM
Pirates lose 9-8. Heartbreaking loss for them. Let's see how they recover.

For coming off a 5 game losing streak, I'll sure take a 3.5 game lead on Pitt and a 6 game lead on St. Louis. Still in pretty darn good shape.

Agreed. Though St. Louis has made up some ground. Reds need to finish this series strong against the Cubs.

cincrazy
08-10-2012, 10:37 PM
Agreed. Though St. Louis has made up some ground. Reds need to finish this series strong against the Cubs.

True. But only 2 games right? I think the most we were up on them was 8. Could be wrong, maybe it wa 9. Either way, still in pretty good shape, especially considering our schedule the rest of the way. And some guy named Votto coming back :).

cincrazy
08-10-2012, 10:37 PM
If we can win tomorrow's game, we've got Cueto going in the finale on Sunday. Win tomorrow, I like our chances of winning Sunday and taking 3 of 4 in the series.

Kc61
08-10-2012, 10:40 PM
Just got home, had seen the Bucs up 7-1. Great to read that Padres came back to win and Cards also dropped one. Good day for the Reds, despite the agony of following this afternoon's tight game.

cincrazy
08-10-2012, 10:48 PM
If James McDonald doesn't turn it around, and soon, the Pirates are in a ton of trouble. We can talk about the struggles of Arroyo, Leake and Homer to a certain degree, but if McDonald goes under, that team is going to sink in a big way.

fearofpopvol1
08-10-2012, 10:53 PM
True. But only 2 games right? I think the most we were up on them was 8. Could be wrong, maybe it wa 9. Either way, still in pretty good shape, especially considering our schedule the rest of the way. And some guy named Votto coming back :).

It's definitely 2, might have even been 2.5? Still, they made up a lot in a short period of team. They still scare me. They have experience and they have a great offense. It's all going to come down to their pitching.

cincrazy
08-10-2012, 10:55 PM
It's definitely 2, might have even been 2.5? Still, they made up a lot in a short period of team. They still scare me. They have experience and they have a great offense. It's all going to come down to their pitching.

Truthfully, they scare me more than Pittsburgh does. I still think they're gonna have a hell of a haul passing us though. Six games may not be insurmountable, but it's going to take a lot. I know they came back last season, but the Braves had to choke, or the comeback never happens. No way we fold like that, so the Cards better make up at least a few games by the end of the month.

WVRedsFan
08-10-2012, 11:15 PM
Hello from rainy Myrtle Beach, SC. Couldn't follow the game today much, but after reading the game thread, I'm so glad of that now. With my BP problems, I didn't need that. But, the game I did follow was worse, if possible. Bucs went up 7-1, thanks mostly to Volquez (boy, am I glad he's gone and that the Lord every day we have Mat) And his 91 pitches in 3.1 innings and 4 walks. Luckily McDonald was just as bad And the Padres prevailed.

Bucs now 3.5 back and Cards 6. Nice start to the vacation.

vaticanplum
08-10-2012, 11:17 PM
Pirates fans here thought this series was going to be a breeze (as did radio announcers). I told them the Padres offense was getting scary. No one listened to me.

Thus ends your daily dose of My Hell Living in an Unexpected Rival Baseball Town.

WVRedsFan
08-10-2012, 11:24 PM
Pirates fans here thought this series was going to be a breeze (as did radio announcers). I told them the Padres offense was getting scary. No one listened to me.

Thus ends your daily dose of My Hell Living in an Unexpected Rival Baseball Town.

I know. Being married to a Pittsburgher, and having to deal with her brothers is brutal. Tonight's story was all about McDonald getting squeezed. Guess that why he gave up the big double and home run in the 5th. And isn't Kent Tekulve just the most disgusting thing on Roots? For some reason, the game was on cable here and that whole bunch is on my toilet paper list.

vaticanplum
08-10-2012, 11:27 PM
I know. Being married to a Pittsburgher, and having to deal with her brothers is brutal. Tonight's story was all about McDonald getting squeezed. Guess that why he gave up the big double and home run in the 5th. And isn't Kent Tekulve just the most disgusting thing on Roots? For some reason, the game was on cable here and that whole bunch is on my toilet paper list.

:lol: It's all so predictable, isn't it? If you sent them to Napa all you'd hear about is how sour the grapes are.

WVRedsFan
08-10-2012, 11:35 PM
:lol: It's all so predictable, isn't it? If you sent them to Napa all you'd hear about is how sour the grapes are.

So true. So true.

Hang in there. At least I'm 250 miles away (650 this week) and only go there on holidays. I feel for you.

NJReds
08-11-2012, 11:24 AM
Tonight's story was all about McDonald getting squeezed. Guess that why he gave up the big double and home run in the 5th.

Not to let the Pirates fans off the hook, but look back at some of our game threads and every Reds pitcher seems to get squeezed. Except for Ondrusek, who just sucks. ;) Fans being fans.

DGullett35
08-11-2012, 12:23 PM
If James McDonald doesn't turn it around, and soon, the Pirates are in a ton of trouble. We can talk about the struggles of Arroyo, Leake and Homer to a certain degree, but if McDonald goes under, that team is going to sink in a big way.

Very true. In his last 8 or so starts he has an ERA of over 8. hes been awful

traderumor
08-11-2012, 01:44 PM
Not to let the Pirates fans off the hook, but look back at some of our game threads and every Reds pitcher seems to get squeezed. Except for Ondrusek, who just sucks. ;) Fans being fans.I watched the game right after SD tied it up. At that point, the zone was very wide on the outside corner. He called two strikes on Alvarez in the ninth and I laughed because the count was 2-2 and Street had not thrown a strike yet.

Degenerate39
08-11-2012, 06:58 PM
I know. Being married to a Pittsburgher, and having to deal with her brothers is brutal. Tonight's story was all about McDonald getting squeezed. Guess that why he gave up the big double and home run in the 5th. And isn't Kent Tekulve just the most disgusting thing on Roots? For some reason, the game was on cable here and that whole bunch is on my toilet paper list.

Last season they gave away Kent Tekulve bobbleheads out at the Charleston Power game. He was there signing autographs. I got to talk to him for a second pretty nice guy. Said Pete was the toughest batter he ever faced

BCubb2003
08-11-2012, 07:23 PM
Last season they gave away Kent Tekulve bobbleheads out at the Charleston Power game. He was there signing autographs. I got to talk to him for a second pretty nice guy. Said Pete was the toughest batter he ever faced

A Marietta College grad.

cincrazy
08-11-2012, 07:50 PM
Padres up 2-0 on A.J. Burnett, and Phils up 1-0 on Cards. Keep it going boys!

cincrazy
08-11-2012, 07:51 PM
If Votto still isn't back yet, those four games in Philly are going to be brutally difficult for us. The pitching staff better toss four straight shutouts.

Tony Cloninger
08-11-2012, 07:53 PM
It's about time the Pirates started regressing too.

cincrazy
08-11-2012, 08:09 PM
Padres now up 3-0 in the 4th. Those guys are going to be raising some hell down the stretch playing the role of spoiler. Thank God we're done with them.

vaticanplum
08-11-2012, 08:40 PM
Now 4-0 at PNC, two Padres on with two outs in the top of the six. Burnett is not pitching badly, lots of strikeouts, but the Padres are finding holes. Their offense is getting pretty crafty.

! wild pitch sends the runners to second and third.

cincrazy
08-11-2012, 08:42 PM
Wow. Burnett is falling apart. Just walked in a run, and walked back to back batters on 8 pitches.

cincrazy
08-11-2012, 08:43 PM
Also, Jason Marquis is throwing a.... well, I don't want to finish the sentence. But you should get what I'm getting at!

vaticanplum
08-11-2012, 08:44 PM
Wow. Burnett is falling apart. Just walked in a run, and walked back to back batters on 8 pitches.

Yes he is. i spoke too soon.

cincrazy
08-11-2012, 08:45 PM
Yes he is. i spoke too soon.

Those pesky Pads are getting to him!

vaticanplum
08-11-2012, 08:45 PM
those pesky pads are getting to him!

fear chase headley

RBA
08-11-2012, 08:46 PM
Pirate fans are real quiet and in disbelief.

cincrazy
08-11-2012, 08:50 PM
Pirate fans are real quiet and in disbelief.

It's been a really tough series for the Pirates. Blew a 7-1 lead last night, getting dominated tonight with their ace on the mound. It's going to be interesting to see how they respond. The Reds in 2010 had several soul-crushing series, but bounced back each time. Let's see if the Pirates can do the same. They haven't really faced any adversity since early in the season.

Brutus
08-11-2012, 08:54 PM
fear chase headley

The Pirates were trying to make a run for Headley. I'm really glad they didn't land him. That would have been a definite upgrade, even though Alvarez has been playing well. Perhaps they would have moved Alvarez to left. Either way, glad they didn't pull the trigger on a Headley deal.

marcshoe
08-11-2012, 08:57 PM
Last season they gave away Kent Tekulve bobbleheads out at the Charleston Power game. He was there signing autographs. I got to talk to him for a second pretty nice guy. Said Pete was the toughest batter he ever faced

First autograph I ever got. In the Charlies' clubhouse. I've blocked what I saw there out of my memory, but Tekulve was the guy who, instead of telling me I shouldn't be there, took the ball and got a teammate to sign it as well. I was only 10, and he made my first encounter with a real player a positive experience.

marcshoe
08-11-2012, 08:59 PM
Also, Jason Marquis is throwing a.... well, I don't want to finish the sentence. But you should get what I'm getting at!

A tantrum? :angry:

cincrazy
08-11-2012, 09:01 PM
A tantrum? :angry:

It rhymes with toe-getter!

kaldaniels
08-11-2012, 09:13 PM
It rhymes with toe-getter!

Now that that is behind us this is shaping up to have been a really nice 24-hour stretch for the Reds.

cincrazy
08-11-2012, 09:22 PM
Now that that is behind us this is shaping up to have been a really nice 24-hour stretch for the Reds.

Most definitely. Nice little rebound from a crappy 5 days.

Tom Servo
08-11-2012, 09:33 PM
Jeez, the Pirates TV announcers sound like they just got back from a funeral. A little life, guys.

kaldaniels
08-11-2012, 09:34 PM
Jeez, the Pirates TV announcers sound like they just got back from a funeral. A little life, guys.

They saw this movie last year?

mbgrayson
08-11-2012, 09:38 PM
Padres have now won their last 11 games in a row at PNC Park. They OWN the Pirates there.

Tom Servo
08-11-2012, 09:39 PM
Nice. Lead is now at 4.5 for the Reds. Cardinals to be at 6.5 barring a 9th inning meltdown.

WVRedsFan
08-11-2012, 09:41 PM
Meltdown Cardinals! Please.