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SidneySlicker
04-09-2012, 01:58 PM
I'm not going to go off the deep end and say this is a must have series, but there is no doubt that this series with the Cardinals can help set the tone for the Reds this season.

The Reds need to send a message to the Cardinals that it's their division, and St. Louis will have to go through them if they want it. Sure Pujols, Larussa, and Duncan are gone, but most of the pieces are the same.

The Reds need this for their own confidence as well. While they have matured and some of the young guys are coming along, they've not had any sort of consistent success against the Cardinals. They need to know that they belong and they can get it done against them.

Grouse
04-09-2012, 02:09 PM
+1

RedsBrick
04-09-2012, 02:33 PM
I agree that this is an important series early in the season.

Here's to a packed house and some good Reds baseball!

S.Wells
04-09-2012, 03:04 PM
I agree a big series for the Reds. By ho means a must win but important to keep the team confident. Also keep the fans excited and coming out to the ball park. Every series at home against the Cards, Brewers, and Pirates will be big. We have got to win the series against our division opponents at home!!

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bmwreds31
04-09-2012, 03:05 PM
Agreed Im definitely not a fan of having to play them so much early on. Whichever one of them gets the Jump right now is going to have an early advantage.

I guess i will be a fan if we get the sweep this series;)

However since they are already a 1/2 game ahead we need to win this series at least

brm7675
04-09-2012, 04:00 PM
this series means no more or no less then the one we just played vs. the Fish. As we have seen in teh past what matters is overall play throughout a season, not a brief 3 game matchup. Add to that we are going with our 4-5-1 guys then I wouldn't put to much into the series and not this early.

Magdal
04-09-2012, 04:01 PM
VERY big series no matter which month it falls in. I look for a 2-1 win, no sweep. Westbrook goes tonite...he keeps the runs down, but gasses out in the 5th, so the Card middle relief (which is suspect) will be tested. So far they have been so-so.

Let's have a 12-11 slugfest! :beerme:

Oh! Wainwright won't go in this series.

bigredmechanism
04-09-2012, 04:07 PM
VERY big series no matter which month it falls in. I look for a 2-1 win, no sweep. Westbrook goes tonite...he keeps the runs down, but gasses out in the 5th, so the Card middle relief (which is suspect) will be tested. So far they have been so-so.

Let's have a 12-11 slugfest! :beerme:

Oh! Wainwright won't go in this series.

Cueto/Garcia could be a good one. But a 12-11 slugfest, there is an off chance that takes place tonight.

Magdal
04-09-2012, 04:16 PM
Cueto/Garcia could be a good one. But a 12-11 slugfest, there is an off chance that takes place tonight.Yeah, I know...but I can hope. Those pesky pitching duels are a real yawn for me during the reg. season.....in the playoffs, too much tension!

How about a game like the Yanks lost the other day? 35 hits and 25 runs!!!:eek:

SidneySlicker
04-09-2012, 04:25 PM
this series means no more or no less then the one we just played vs. the Fish. As we have seen in teh past what matters is overall play throughout a season, not a brief 3 game matchup. Add to that we are going with our 4-5-1 guys then I wouldn't put to much into the series and not this early.

Disagree. Getting swept or sweeping the Cardinals will put them anywhere from down 3.5 to up 2.5. No one saying it's going to determine the season, but that it's gonna play a part in it. Also establishing yourself as a team to be wreckoned with early in the season is important. I also think it's important for the Reds psyche's to hang with the Cardinals or even better, to beat them.

texasdave
04-09-2012, 04:56 PM
this series means no more or no less then the one we just played vs. the Fish. As we have seen in teh past what matters is overall play throughout a season, not a brief 3 game matchup. Add to that we are going with our 4-5-1 guys then I wouldn't put to much into the series and not this early.

This could not be more incorrect. Obviously, these games mean more because if the Reds win they insure a Cardinal loss.

Magdal
04-09-2012, 05:00 PM
This could not be more incorrect. Obviously, these games mean more because if the Reds win they insure a Cardinal loss.Yep....a loss to the fish: 0.5 ...a loss to the div. leader: full game

mu4103
04-09-2012, 05:52 PM
Should be a great series, but there is no such thing as a "need" in your fourth game of the season. It's like saying that the football season opener is a must win. If the Reds sweep I would almost be more afraid (overconfidence) then if the Reds got swept. I think the Reds have some work to do and it should be an exciting series regardless. Having said that I think a split would be a fine outcome.

I like the intensity though. But if the Reds sweep I may stay off this message board for about a week as many will crown the Reds the team to beat in the NL (they are not there yet). All the same way to be a good fan.

bigredmechanism
04-09-2012, 06:08 PM
I feel that all games against the Cards and Brewers are important games, and the ones in April count just as much as the ones in September.

redhat
04-09-2012, 06:21 PM
The Reds need to send a message to the Cardinals that it's their division...Seriously? It's the Reds' division?
Did you notice which team is defending world champions?


Westbrook goes tonite...he keeps the runs down, but gasses out in the 5th...That's last year's Westbrook. He lost 20 pounds in the offseason and is in far better shape this year. Pitched 24 innings in the spring and allowed only 12 hits.

I expect both starters will go at least six innings.

brm7675
04-09-2012, 06:27 PM
Disagree. Getting swept or sweeping the Cardinals will put them anywhere from down 3.5 to up 2.5. No one saying it's going to determine the season, but that it's gonna play a part in it. Also establishing yourself as a team to be wreckoned with early in the season is important. I also think it's important for the Reds psyche's to hang with the Cardinals or even better, to beat them.

Wow down 2.5 3 games with what like 155+ games to play....the season is over...:(

webbbj
04-09-2012, 06:36 PM
the reds will not be eliminated from playoffs with 3 losses its not a must win. Not good if they do lose definitly would leave a sour taste, but if they win the next 7 after that they are probably right back in 1st

xavr1
04-09-2012, 06:47 PM
VP of ticket sales was on 1530 this afternoon and said they werent expecting tonight attendance to reach 20,000. Kinda disappointing given the weather and opponent. Suppose a lot of fans went down this weekend and are taking the day off..

texasdave
04-09-2012, 06:53 PM
VP of ticket sales was on 1530 this afternoon and said they werent expecting tonight attendance to reach 20,000. Kinda disappointing given the weather and opponent. Suppose a lot of fans went down this weekend and are taking the day off..

20,000? Is that a joke? Against the hated Cardinals? :confused:

brm7675
04-09-2012, 07:06 PM
20,000? Is that a joke? Against the hated Cardinals? :confused:

It's Monday in april....

Magdal
04-09-2012, 07:11 PM
For those that feel the need to underplay the importance of a win in april, you should talk to an Atlanta Braves fan....or a Boston fan.

redhat
04-09-2012, 07:13 PM
For those that feel the need to underplay the importance of a win in april, you should talk to an Atlanta Braves fan....or a Boston fan.+1

takealeake
04-09-2012, 07:17 PM
For those that feel the need to underplay the importance of a win in april, you should talk to an Atlanta Braves fan....or a Boston fan.

It's one of 162. No less or more important than any other. Our season isn't made if we sweep them, and it's not over if we get swept.

LaFlamaBlanca
04-09-2012, 08:06 PM
For those that feel the need to underplay the importance of a win in april, you should talk to an Atlanta Braves fan....or a Boston fan.

You mean the teams who couldn't buy a win in September?

Krawhitham
04-09-2012, 08:15 PM
this series means no more or no less then the one we just played vs. the Fish. As we have seen in teh past what matters is overall play throughout a season, not a brief 3 game matchup. Add to that we are going with our 4-5-1 guys then I wouldn't put to much into the series and not this early.

+1

DGullett35
04-10-2012, 07:01 AM
You mean the teams who couldn't buy a win in September?

+1...They may have looked back and said if only we had one a couple more in April but the reality is they choked down the stretch when playoff teams are supposed to be playing there best baseball.

Assembly Hall
04-10-2012, 07:48 AM
+1...They may have looked back and said if only we had one a couple more in April but the reality is they choked down the stretch when playoff teams are supposed to be playing there best baseball.

The first thing is to get into the play-offs. Once there anything can happen. Ebbs and flows happen throughout the season. Better to not be losing early or late. I remember a 1990 team that backed into the play-offs(those early wins paid off) and the rest is history.

Cherokee
04-10-2012, 09:26 AM
We have hit a Cardinal buzzsaw. They are smoking hot and we are still trying to get our legs under us. The Cards have to cool down sometime, let's just hope it's tonight and not after they leave Cincy! :D