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Mario-Rijo
04-17-2012, 11:25 AM
I thought I'd toss this thread out here for folks to put their version of what will or should happen (your choice).

My updated version:

ROUND 1

1. Indianapolis (2-14) - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. Washington (5-11) - Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
3. Minnesota (3-13) - Matt Kalil, OT, USC
4. Cleveland (4-12) - Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
5. Tampa Bay (4-12) - Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
6. St. Louis (2-14) - Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St.
7. Jacksonville (5-11) - Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
8. Miami (6-10) - Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M
9. Carolina (6-10) - Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi St.
10. Buffalo (6-10) - Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College
11. Kansas City (7-9) - Quentin Coples, DE, North Carolina
12. Seattle (7-9) - Melvin Ingram, DE/OLB , South Carolina
13. Cincinnati (9-7) - Mark Barron, S, Alabama (Trade #17, 3rd & 5th)
14. Dallas (8-8) - Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
15. Philadelphia (8-8) - Michael Brockers, DT, LSU
16. New York Jets (8-8) - Courtney Upshaw, DE/OLB, Alabama
17. Arizona (8-8) - Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
18. San Diego (8-8) - David DeCastro, G, Stanford
19. Chicago (8-8) - Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse
20. Tennessee (9-7) - Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis
21. Cincinnati (9-7) - Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina
22. Cleveland (4-12) - Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor
23. Detroit (10-6) - Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
24. Pittsburgh (12-4) - Dont'a Hightower ILB University of Alabama
25. Denver (8-8) - Jerel Worthy, DT, MSU
26. Houston (10-6) - Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State
27. New England (13-3) - Andre Branch, DE/OLB, Clemson
28. Green Bay (15-1) - Shea McLellin, OLB, Boise St.
29. Baltimore (12-4) - Cordy Glenn, OG/OT, UGA
30. San Francisco (13-3) - Peter Konz OG/OC, Wisconsin
31. New England (13-3) - Harrison Smith, S, Notre Dame
32. New York Giants (9-7) - Nick Perry, DE, USC

ROUND 2

1. St. Louis (2-14) - Janoris Jenkins, CB, NAU
2. Indianapolis (2-14) - Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech
3. Minnesota (3-13) - Alshon Jeffery, WR, S.C.
4. Tampa Bay (4-12) - David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech
5. Cleveland (4-12) - LaVonte David, OLB, Nebraska
6. Jacksonville (5-11) - Whitney Mercilus, OLB, Illinois
7. St. Louis (2-14) - Kendall Reyes, DT, UConn
8. Carolina (6-10) - Josh Robinson, CB, UCF
9. Buffalo (6-10) - Bobbie Massie, OT, Mississippi
10. Miami (6-10) - Reuben Randle, WR, LSU
11. Seattle (7-9) - Bobby Wagner, LB, Utah St.
12. Kansas City (7-9) - Alameda Ta'amu, NT, Washington
13. Dallas (8-8) - Devon Still, DL, Penn State
14. Philadelphia (8-8) - Zach Brown, OLB, N.C.
15. New York Jets (8-8) - LaMichael James, RB, Oregon
16. New England (13-3) - Brandon Boykin, CB, UGA
17. San Diego (8-8) - Kelechi Osomele, OG/OT, Iowa State
18. Chicago (8-8) - Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin
19. Philadelphia (8-8) - Brock Osweiler, QB, Ari. St.
20. Tennessee (9-7) - Brandon Taylor, S, LSU
21. Cincinnati (9-7) - Doug Martin, RB, Boise St.
22. Detroit (10-6) - Mychael Kendricks, LB, Cal
23. Atlanta (10-6) - Zebrie Sanders, OT, Fla. St.
24. Pittsburgh (12-4) - Brandon Thompson, NT, Clemson
25. Denver (8-8) - LaMar Miller, RB, Miami (Fl.)
26. Houston (10-6) - Ronnell Lewis, LB, Ok. U
27. New Orleans *** FORFEITED ***
28. Green Bay (15-1) - Jared Crick, DE, Nebraska
29. Baltimore (12-4) - Trumaine Johnson, DB, Montana
30. San Francisco (13-3) - Dwight Bentley, CB, La. Lafayette
31. New England (13-3) - Amini Silatolu OG, Midwestern State
32. New York Giants (9-7) - Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford

The remainder of Bengals picks (3rd and a late 5th go to Zona for the Barron deal)
4th - Hebron (Loni) Fangupo - DT - Washington
5A - Brandon Washington - OG/OT - Miami (Fl.)
5B - Michael Calvin - WR - Cal
6th - Marcus Dowtin - LB - N. Alabama

JaxRed
04-18-2012, 06:38 PM
I will be surprised (but not shocked) if Jags took Floyd at 7. Too many little character concerns. Everyone knows they should seek a trade-down, and the GM has talked that up, but he has a tendency to lock in on a guy, and take him no matter what.

I think Cox and Ingram fit his pattern.

Best situation is for Tannehill to be there at 7 with Dolphins salivating at 8. Hopefully someone like Cleveland or KC or Buffalo wants to grab him from Miami.

Ohayou
04-18-2012, 06:55 PM
You have Fleener almost in the 3rd round.

Mario-Rijo
04-19-2012, 02:10 PM
I will be surprised (but not shocked) if Jags took Floyd at 7. Too many little character concerns. Everyone knows they should seek a trade-down, and the GM has talked that up, but he has a tendency to lock in on a guy, and take him no matter what.

I think Cox and Ingram fit his pattern.

Best situation is for Tannehill to be there at 7 with Dolphins salivating at 8. Hopefully someone like Cleveland or KC or Buffalo wants to grab him from Miami.

I would be too a bit, if I were them I would certainly take a strong look at Cox he's a beast IMO. But I don't see them being able to move out of that spot and I think they know they need to secure a good WR if they have any hope of trying to get anything out of Gabbert (I think they are screwed on that though). There is a chance Seattle or KC could move up for Tannehill but I don't think they have the wuevos to take that gamble.

For the record I hope he takes Ingram, I think that helps make for a better chance for the Bengals to get what they need/want.

Mario-Rijo
04-19-2012, 02:12 PM
You have Fleener almost in the 3rd round.

I know, I felt uneasy about that because I can't see him falling quite that far. I'm sure someone will forego need for him I just couldn't find the right fit for him, there was always someone as good or better with a bigger need.

redsfanmia
04-19-2012, 06:08 PM
I know, I felt uneasy about that because I can't see him falling quite that far. I'm sure someone will forego need for him I just couldn't find the right fit for him, there was always someone as good or better with a bigger need.

NO way Fleener falls past the Colts second round pick.

Mario-Rijo
04-20-2012, 08:43 AM
NO way Fleener falls past the Colts second round pick.

I had him there originally, but I personally think they have bigger needs and I think Hill has better value. But I can definitely see the Colts taking him, just what I would do with how things unfolded for them. Chances are Hill won't be there anyway, it only takes 1 pick to screw up the rest of them.

Caveat Emperor
04-20-2012, 08:50 AM
I'd prefer to see Tampa trade down. The draft is devoid of true "impact" players on defense, and the offensive side is really limited to the top two QBs.

Claiborne is a good corner, but he isn't a lock-down guy -- and #5 overall is a lot of draft value for a guy who won't shut down half the field.

redsfanmia
04-20-2012, 02:20 PM
I had him there originally, but I personally think they have bigger needs and I think Hill has better value. But I can definitely see the Colts taking him, just what I would do with how things unfolded for them. Chances are Hill won't be there anyway, it only takes 1 pick to screw up the rest of them.

The Colts have needs all over the field. Other than QB Punter and Kicker the
Colts need talent everywhere.

Mario-Rijo
04-20-2012, 08:10 PM
I'd prefer to see Tampa trade down. The draft is devoid of true "impact" players on defense, and the offensive side is really limited to the top two QBs.

Claiborne is a good corner, but he isn't a lock-down guy -- and #5 overall is a lot of draft value for a guy who won't shut down half the field.

I would trade down if I were them as well but I don't believe the draft is devoid of impact players on the defense. I think Cox & Kuechly will for sure be and I also like Barron alot as well just might be a smidge less talented than those 2. But I think all 3 can/will have a great impact on their teams.

REDblooded
04-20-2012, 10:01 PM
Worthy, while I hate him, is a game-changer and would be a perfect fit in the 3-4...


And don't forget to follow Jim Irsay on twitter and submit your mock draft... If by some miracle you drill the first round, it's worth a BMW.

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2012, 03:15 AM
I would trade down if I were them as well but I don't believe the draft is devoid of impact players on the defense. I think Cox & Kuechly will for sure be and I also like Barron alot as well just might be a smidge less talented than those 2. But I think all 3 can/will have a great impact on their teams.

They all have the potential to be good players, but I don't think any of them profile as the kind of elite, franchise-type players you'd expect/hope to get with a Top-5 pick.

Mario-Rijo
04-21-2012, 09:58 AM
Worthy, while I hate him, is a game-changer and would be a perfect fit in the 3-4...


And don't forget to follow Jim Irsay on twitter and submit your mock draft... If by some miracle you drill the first round, it's worth a BMW.

Awesome, worth a shot I suppose!

Mario-Rijo
04-24-2012, 06:30 AM
Final version:

ROUND 1

1. Indianapolis (2-14) - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. Washington (5-11) - Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
3. Minnesota (3-13) - Matt Kalil, OT, USC
4. Cleveland (4-12) - Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
5. Tampa Bay (4-12) - Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
6. St. Louis (2-14) - Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi St.
7. Jacksonville (5-11) - Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St.
8. Miami (6-10) - Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M
9. Carolina (6-10) - Melvin Ingram, DE/OLB, South Carolina
10. Buffalo (6-10) - Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College
11. Kansas City (7-9) - Dontari Poe, NT, Memphis
12. Seattle (7-9) - Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
13. Cincinnati (9-7) - Mark Barron, S, Alabama (Trade #17, 3rd & a 5th)
14. Dallas (8-8) - Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
15. Philadelphia (8-8) - Michael Brockers, DT, LSU
16. New York Jets (8-8) - Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse
17. Arizona (8-8) - Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
18. San Diego (8-8) - David DeCastro, G, Stanford
19. Chicago (8-8) - Quentin Coples, DE, North Carolina
20. Tennessee (9-7) - Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina
21. Cincinnati (9-7) - Cordy Glenn, OG/OT, UGA
22. Cleveland (4-12) - Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor
23. Detroit (10-6) - Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
24. Pittsburgh (12-4) - Dont'a Hightower, ILB, Alabama
25. Denver (8-8) - Jerel Worthy, DT, MSU
26. Houston (10-6) - Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State
27. New England (13-3) - Courtney Upshaw, DE/OLB, Alabama
28. Green Bay (15-1) - Shea McLellin, OLB, Boise St.
29. Baltimore (12-4) - Peter Konz OG/OC, Wisconsin
30. San Francisco (13-3) - Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech
31. New England (13-3) - Harrison Smith, S, Notre Dame
32. New York Giants (9-7) - Nick Perry, DE, USC

ROUND 2

1. St. Louis (2-14) - Janoris Jenkins, CB, NAU
2. Indianapolis (2-14) - Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford
3. Minnesota (3-13) - Alshon Jeffery, WR, S.C.
4. Tampa Bay (4-12) - David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech
5. Cleveland (4-12) - LaVonte David, OLB, Nebraska
6. Jacksonville (5-11) - Whitney Mercilus, OLB, Illinois
7. St. Louis (2-14) - Reuben Randle, WR, LSU
8. Carolina (6-10) - Josh Robinson, CB, UCF
9. Buffalo (6-10) - Bobbie Massie, OT, Mississippi
10. Miami (6-10) - Andre Branch, DE/OLB, Clemson
11. Seattle (7-9) - Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall
12. Kansas City (7-9) - Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin
13. Dallas (8-8) - Derek Wolfe, DL, UC
14. Philadelphia (8-8) - Zach Brown, OLB, N.C.
15. New York Jets (8-8) - LaMichael James, RB, Oregon
16. New England (13-3) - Brandon Boykin, CB, UGA
17. San Diego (8-8) - Doug Martin, RB, Boise St.
18. Chicago (8-8) - Kelechi Osomele, OG/OT, Iowa State
19. Philadelphia (8-8) - Brock Osweiler, QB, Ari. St.
20. Tennessee (9-7) - Kendall Reyes, DT, UConn
21. Cincinnati (9-7) - LaMar Miller, RB, Miami (Fl.)
22. Detroit (10-6) - Mychael Kendricks, LB, Cal
23. Atlanta (10-6) - Zebrie Sanders, OT, Fla. St.
24. Pittsburgh (12-4) - Alameda Ta'amu, NT, Washington
25. Denver (8-8) - Brandon Taylor, S, LSU
26. Houston (10-6) - Bobby Wagner, LB, Utah St.
27. New Orleans *** FORFEITED ***
28. Green Bay (15-1) - Jared Crick, DE, Nebraska
29. Baltimore (12-4) - Trumaine Johnson, DB, Montana
30. San Francisco (13-3) - Dwight Bentley, CB, La. Lafayette
31. New England (13-3) - Amini Silatolu OG, Midwestern State
32. New York Giants (9-7) - Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson

The remainder of Bengals picks (3rd and a late 5th go to Zona for the Barron deal)
4th - Hebron (Loni) Fangupo - DT - Washington
5A - Omar Bolden - CB - Ari. St.
5B - Michael Calvin - WR - Cal
6th - Marcus Dowtin - LB - N. Alabama

WVRed
04-24-2012, 08:59 PM
My turn:


1.Indianapolis Colts-Andrew Luck (QB-Stanford)
2.Washington Redskins (from St. Louis Rams)- Robert Griffin III (QB-Baylor)
3.Minnesota Vikings-Matt Kalil (OT-USC)
4.Cleveland Browns-Trent Richardson (RB-Alabama)
5.Tampa Bay Buccaneers-Morris Claiborne (CB-LSU)
6.Rams (from Redskins)-Justin Blackmon (WR-Oklahoma State)
7.Philadelphia Eagles *(trade with Jacksonville)-Fletcher Cox (DT-Mississippi State)
8.Miami Dolphins- Ryan Tannehill(QB-Texas A&M)
9.NY Jets (trade with Carolina)-Melvin Ingram (DE-South Carolina)
10.Buffalo Bills-Stephon Gilmore (CB-South Carolina)
11.Kansas City Chiefs-Dontari Poe (DT-Memphis)
12.Seattle Seahawks-Luke Kuechly (LB-Boston College)
13.Arizona Cardinals-Riley Reiff (OT-Iowa)
14.Dallas Cowboys-David DeCastro (OG-Stanford)
15.Jacksonville Jaguars-Michael Floyd (WR-Notre Dame)
16.Carolina Panthers-Quinton Coples (DE-North Carolina)
17.Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland Raiders)-Mark Barron (S-Alabama)
18.San Diego Chargers-Chandler Jones (DE-Syracuse)
19.Chicago Bears-Whitney Mercilus (DE-Illinois)
20.Tennessee Titans-Dre Kirkpatrick (CB-Alabama)
21.Bengals-Courtney Upshaw (DE-Alabama)
22.Browns (from Atlanta Falcons)-Kendall Wright (WR-Baylor)
23.Detroit Lions-Jonathan Martin (OT-Stanford)
24.Pittsburgh Steelers-Donta' Hightower (LB-Alabama)
25.Denver Broncos-Jerel Worthy (DT-Michigan State)
26.Houston Texans-Cordy Glenn (G-Georgia)
27.New England Patriots (from New Orleans Saints)-Peter Konz (C-Wisconsin)
28.Green Bay Packers-Harrison Smith (S-Notre Dame)
29.Baltimore Ravens-Amini Silatolu (G-Midwestern State)
30.San Francisco 49ers-Stephen Hill (WR-Georgia Tech)
31.Detroit Lions (from New England)-Janoris Jenkins (CB-North Alabama)
32.New York Giants- David Wilson (RB-Va Tech)

Trades:

The Eagles give up a first and third round pick to take Cox.

The Jets give up a first and third round pick for Ingram.

The Lions give up a second rounder this year and a first rounder next year to the Patriots for Janoris Jenkins.

TeamSelig
04-25-2012, 02:01 AM
Here is mine (just the 1st RD)

1. Indianapolis (2-14) - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. Washington (5-11) - Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
3. Minnesota (3-13) - Matt Kalil, OT, USC
4. Cleveland (4-12) - Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
5. Tampa Bay (4-12) - Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
6. St. Louis (2-14) - Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St.
7. Jacksonville (5-11) - Quentin Coples, DE, North Carolina
8. Miami (6-10) - Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M
9. Carolina (6-10) - Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi St.
10. Buffalo (6-10) - Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
11. Kansas City (7-9) - Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College
12. Seattle (7-9) - Melvin Ingram, DE/OLB , South Carolina
13. Arizona (8-8) - Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
14. Dallas (8-8) - Mark Barron, S, Alabama
15. Philadelphia (8-8) - Courtney Upshaw, DE/OLB, Alabama
16. New York Jets (8-8) - Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse
17. Cincinnati (9-7) - Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina
18. San Diego (8-8) - Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
19. Chicago (8-8) - Michael Brockers, DT, LSU
20. Tennessee (9-7) - Nick Perry, DE, USC
21. Cincinnati (9-7) - David DeCastro, G, Stanford
22. Cleveland (4-12) - Ryan Tannehill, QB
23. Detroit (10-6) - Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama
24. Pittsburgh (12-4) - Dont'a Hightower ILB University of Alabama
25. Denver (8-8) - Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis
26. Houston (10-6) - Cordy Glenn, OG/OT, UGA
27. New England (13-3) - Andre Branch, DE/OLB, Clemson
28. Green Bay (15-1) - Jerel Worthy, DT, MSU
29. Baltimore (12-4) - Peter Konz OG/OC, Wisconsin
30. San Francisco (13-3) - Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
31. New England (13-3) - Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin
32. New York Giants (9-7) - Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford

TeamSelig
04-25-2012, 02:01 AM
edit - double post


also I'd like to mention that I didn't include any trades... as it's a bit hectic to think about all of the possibilities

TeamSelig
04-25-2012, 10:29 AM
Big day for Tannehill as he gets two pay days, one from Miami and one from Cleveland.

Oops.

Caveat Emperor
04-25-2012, 12:31 PM
Cleveland is being awfully quiet for a team that has a pressing need at quarterback.

I think they're a bigger player for Tannehill than anyone wants to admit, they just don't want their interest to be known with Minnesota actively shopping the #3 pick and QB-needy Miami possibly moving up.

Mario-Rijo
04-25-2012, 05:43 PM
Cleveland is being awfully quiet for a team that has a pressing need at quarterback.

I think they're a bigger player for Tannehill than anyone wants to admit, they just don't want their interest to be known with Minnesota actively shopping the #3 pick and QB-needy Miami possibly moving up.

I think at 22 he is a possibility for them. If he gets past Seattle then I think the Bengals #21 pick becomes a spot for dealing down. I just cannot see Miami missing out again on a guy although needs developing is talented enough to be drafted that high if developed properly. Then again he has hands like Kurt Warner (smaller than ideal) and that with any other major issues could make for a bust.

Mario-Rijo
04-25-2012, 05:53 PM
I'm starting to think the Jets are very serious about backing up the truck for Richardson. I see why the Jets feel the need to have such a player. Moving up to #3 is a massive jump though.

Also starting to think my mock is already in trouble because Barron is starting to gain traction in the top 11-12, I doubt any team currently sitting there will take him but someone (Philly) might very well deal up for him now. That with the fact that I was hesitant about the Bengals giving up picks in the 1st place makes me think they will stay put @#17. This draft eve chaos is bigger than any I have ever seen.

Mario-Rijo
04-26-2012, 02:23 PM
I know I said final but my gut keeps telling me we aren't gonna do what I'd like and trade up for Barron because of a number of reasons the biggest of which is the Bengals love of not paying safeties and guards top dollar. I do think if Kuechly or Cox somehow managed to get to #12 or #13 they might make that move, I think they see the value in those 2. But if it is just Barron that falls there I do think Arizona will try very hard to get out of that spot and pick up another draft choice as they are short a 2nd round choice this season (Kolb deal) and I think someone will trade up to get him in front of the Cowboys, probably the Jets if they can't move up for Richardson, the Eagles might also be willing.

So with that said I'll throw my gut call out there.

#17 - Stephon Gilmore CB (good grief I hope he is at least left)
#21 - Cordy Glenn OL
2nd - Marvin Jones WR (without Jerome they now must go WR in the 1st 2 rounds)
3rd - Isiah Pead RB (Moving up to the top of the 3rd with a 5th)
4th - Brandon Hardin SS
5A - Malik Jackson DE
5B - Hebron Fangupo DT
6th - Marcus Dowtin LB

Ohayou
04-26-2012, 07:27 PM
Here's what I want to happen:

1A - David DeCastro OG
1B - Stephon Gilmore CB
2 - David Wilson RB
3 - Brian Quick WR
4 - Brandon Hardin SS (I'll take your word for it)
5A - Jaye Howard DT
5B - DeVier Posey WR
5C - Kourtnei Brown DE
6 - Scott Wedige C

Dre Kirkpatrick, Cordy Glenn, Mohamed Sanu, and LaMichel James are all names I wouldn't be surprised to hear in the early rounds.