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04-29-2012, 02:29 PM
but rolen is a good clubhouse guy, yeah thats important in building boy scouts

Krawhitham
04-29-2012, 02:36 PM
Who currently is the Reds DH?


OH WAIT the Reds do not get a DH

brm7675
04-29-2012, 04:12 PM
but rolen is a good clubhouse guy, yeah thats important in building boy scouts

No Rolen in 2010 no playoffs....its just that simple.

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04-29-2012, 04:37 PM
no gene freese in 1961 no world series big deal

RedsfaninMT
04-29-2012, 05:10 PM
Who currently is the Reds DH?


OH WAIT the Reds do not get a DH

You do remember that the Jays actually waiver him at one point, right? It's not as if his value has always been seen as sky high, and as others pointed out, he simply cannot field 3B...at all.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/12/as-claim-edwin-encarnacion-off-waivers-from-blue-jays/

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04-29-2012, 05:20 PM
sorry my fault 7 hrs 20 rbis now

R_Webb18
04-29-2012, 05:40 PM
cool story bro

Stray
04-29-2012, 05:52 PM
Another quality thread.

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Ironman92
04-29-2012, 06:42 PM
He is a train wreck. I hope he keeps playing well.....but how much did you need to see as a Reds player? It was time for him to go!

mroby85
04-29-2012, 06:43 PM
You magnify your ignorance with every post.

Wonderful Monds
04-29-2012, 07:51 PM
sorry my fault 7 hrs 20 rbis now
Terrific. He's on a hot streak. But he's not that good and never has been, and it doesn't matter how many times you post his numbers from a very short season so far, but he would have never had a place to play here.

The Rage
04-29-2012, 08:53 PM
Then he slumps..................Why people get all hot and bothered over April(or May for that matter) baseball amazes me. The real season doesn't even begin to June.

justincredible
04-29-2012, 10:00 PM
If I hated everything about the team I'd just stop being a fan.

bounty37h
04-30-2012, 11:30 AM
You magnify your ignorance with every post.

+1. I just assume troll with the posts I have seen out of this guy so far, cant be a fan. Actually think he has been banned under other names already-posts seem similar to other short lived people around here- think just comes back with different handle to be annoying.

LeDoux
04-30-2012, 01:21 PM
Another quality thread.

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I still don't think you get how we do things here in the Sundeck. Why respectfully disagree when you can call someone names? Incite! Incite I say! More outrageous statements! For an example:

You would understand all this if your head wasnít so poopy and brain so dumb bunny. And you smell like a zebraís dysentery too.

Thatís how you do it in the Sundeck!

:KoolAid:

Big Red Hoss
04-30-2012, 01:58 PM
I still don't think you get how we do things here in the Sundeck. Why respectfully disagree when you can call someone names? Incite! Incite I say! More outrageous statements! For an example:

You would understand all this if your head wasnít so poopy and brain so dumb bunny. And you smell like a zebraís dysentery too.

Thatís how you do it in the Sundeck!

:KoolAid:

This is why its hard for folks to get past the sundeck. They want us to post and show we can bring things to this conversation before actually moving to the other forum. Yet most of this isn't even worth reading much less posting on.

bmwreds31
04-30-2012, 02:47 PM
He's definitely on a hot streak. Surprising to myself to say the least. But i would fully expect him to come back to earth here pretty soon. This little streak though has probably bought him a spot on the team for the rest of the season however.

takealeake
04-30-2012, 06:19 PM
EE is horrible. Are you going to post his stats at the end of the year when he's around a .250 BA and .300 OBP with a ton of K's?

Maybe the Angels should have signed him to a quarter billion then, and not Pujols, since apparently the playoffs start in May.

Big Red Hoss
04-30-2012, 06:28 PM
All I will say is I got him on my fantasy team and he has done me well.

LeDoux
04-30-2012, 09:05 PM
This is why its hard for folks to get past the sundeck. They want us to post and show we can bring things to this conversation before actually moving to the other forum. Yet most of this isn't even worth reading much less posting on.

I feel your pain. It can be like sitting in back of a Jr. high schoolbus at times. But as you get to know the posters here you can pickout conversations worth participating in. If you can just ignore the rest it isn't so bad.

improbus
04-30-2012, 09:12 PM
I'm happy for EE. I love it when ex-Reds succeed, because it lifts the profile and image of Reds players and prospects. The better they do, the more other teams will want to work and deal with the Reds.

DGullett35
05-01-2012, 07:42 AM
He had another HR off Yu last night. The guy is raking right now

wabashfalcon
05-01-2012, 06:33 PM
This is one of the few guys that never really clicked in Cincy.

After Aaron, we had no real "sure-fire" guy until Edwin was anointed. And, to be fair, he was a LITTLE glove deficient. When he played butcher-boy at the bag, it got into his head. That trickled over to the plate... and... well, he did a fist pump and ran out of Dusty's office when he heard he was one a one-way to Toronto, eh?

I wish he would have become a 10 year cornerstone. Same with DeAngelo Jimenez, Cody Ross, Juan Francisco, and Brandon Larsen. However, these guys just never came to fruition here... or at all.

So, I'm on the Rolen bus. I know Frazier will be a five year guy once the elder statesman steps down.

Jr's Boy
05-01-2012, 06:44 PM
He had another HR off Yu last night. The guy is raking right now


Yu was throwing him meatballs after he plunked him in his first at bat.BBT crew said the Japanese have a different outlook on hitters when they get plunked.Larkin said he played over there some,a pitcherhit him,walked up to him off the mound and bowed and took the ball back.

Krawhitham
05-02-2012, 04:02 PM
9HR & 24 RBI

This guy is saving my fantasy team so far this season

Ironman92
05-02-2012, 04:26 PM
HOF 2024

Big Red Hoss
05-02-2012, 04:33 PM
HOF 2024

Haha yeah he and Chad Johnson can be inducted at the same time.

texasdave
05-02-2012, 04:50 PM
The fans behind first base have stopped wearing helmets to the game. It's a win-win situation.

R_Webb18
05-02-2012, 04:54 PM
maybe him and bautista switched spots?

DirtyBaker
05-02-2012, 05:42 PM
Good for EE. He will still come back to earth and be average though.

Reds got the better end of the deal in 2010, Blue Jays got the better end of it thereafter.

Big Red Hoss
05-02-2012, 05:43 PM
knowing what i know now. I would still want the trade to happen 10 out of 10 times. This just happens to make it a win win for both teams.

mlh1981
05-02-2012, 08:04 PM
Reds needed a guy like Scott Rolen at the time. There was noone acting as if Rolen was a longterm solution, but given our need for a veteran leader, plus Encarnacion's struggles, the Reds did the right thing. It payed dividends in 2010.

I hold nothing personally against Encarnacion, and hope he does well. It's unlikely at his age that he will offer something new out of his bag of tricks, but if he goes on to have a career year, you still can't blame the Reds for making the deal when they did.

BigJohn
05-03-2012, 08:25 AM
Read the back of his card
- M Brennemen

Ironman92
05-03-2012, 07:14 PM
Read the back of his card
- M Brennemen

Who?

Krawhitham
05-03-2012, 07:27 PM
knowing what i know now. I would still want the trade to happen 10 out of 10 times. This just happens to make it a win win for both teams.

Rolen had one half of a good season

That's it

3 good months


Since July 31st 2010 these are his stats

.237 9hr 68rbi

Krawhitham
05-03-2012, 07:43 PM
I hold nothing personally against Encarnacion, and hope he does well. It's unlikely at his age that he will offer something new out of his bag of tricks, but if he goes on to have a career year, you still can't blame the Reds for making the deal when they did.

he is only 29

His career 162 game averages are 25HR 85RBI

Ironman92
05-03-2012, 10:12 PM
he is only 29

His career 162 game averages are 25HR 85RBI

162 games averages are for guys like Prince Fielder.

CrosleyField
05-03-2012, 10:34 PM
Happy for his success. Even happier he is no longer a Red. Does anyone not remember how horrible he was when he was here. Not just the numbers, but everything. Maybe Rolen is old and can't hit but he did win a gold glove in 2010. Encarcion didn't hit much here either and he stunk in the field.

Kingspoint
05-04-2012, 01:15 AM
Rolen had one half of a good season

That's it

3 good months


Since July 31st 2010 these are his stats

.237 9hr 68rbi

Yep. It's a joke that anyone can even defend that trade. What good did it do the REDS to make the playoffs in 2010? They were never going to win a series (Did you see how lousy Rolen played in the playoff series?), so what was the point? For a long time now, Rolen has been nothing but a yoke around the REDS' neck. He needs to call it quits and walk away from the game....and take Willie Harris and that other old hack with him.

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05-04-2012, 01:49 AM
completely accurate if we are going to pay homage for a guy who "led" us to a sweep why not play Gene Fresse at third, he helped in 1961 pennant drive

Francisco or anybody has more upside than relief who is a unmitigated thief taking this money, and by the way he flat out stunk in the second half of 2010 and of course whiffed in the "playoffs"
Rolen is the definition of Coleridge's albatross

lidspinner
05-04-2012, 09:25 AM
hindsight my friends, hindsight. I think 99% of you would make that trade at that time, and not think twice about it....hindsight tells me that we might have been better off working with EE but you just never know....guy looks lost as a kitten at 3rd base and we just didnt have anywhere else for him at the time, still dont so I dont see where people would not have wanted that trade to happen at the time....

Z-Fly
05-04-2012, 01:08 PM
hindsight my friends, hindsight. I think 99% of you would make that trade at that time, and not think twice about it....hindsight tells me that we might have been better off working with EE but you just never know....guy looks lost as a kitten at 3rd base and we just didnt have anywhere else for him at the time, still dont so I dont see where people would not have wanted that trade to happen at the time....

If I remember correctly, many people were very much against that trade. That being said, I would have done the trade then. I also would have done it now.

The one thing I would not have done is sign him to the extension. I realize that it helped spread the money out, but why add years to an ageing player?

Also it is kind of dumb to compare EE to Rolen as a 3B, since EE doesn't even play 3B anymore.

lidspinner
05-05-2012, 12:29 AM
If I remember correctly, many people were very much against that trade. That being said, I would have done the trade then. I also would have done it now.

The one thing I would not have done is sign him to the extension. I realize that it helped spread the money out, but why add years to an ageing player?

Also it is kind of dumb to compare EE to Rolen as a 3B, since EE doesn't even play 3B anymore.


I don't remember people calling it a bad trade at the time. Maybe your right. I have bad memory.

Ironman92
05-05-2012, 12:38 AM
I don't remember people calling it a bad trade at the time. Maybe your right. I have bad memory.

Some did because of the young relief pitcher we gave them.....no biggee IMO

lidspinner
05-05-2012, 01:25 AM
Some did because of the young relief pitcher we gave them.....no biggee IMO

I do remember the relief pitcher now....Zach Stewart I think...

bmwreds31
05-05-2012, 11:50 AM
Yeah some people didnt like the trade i can remember that. However i was all for getting rid of EE.

mlh1981
05-05-2012, 12:58 PM
he is only 29

His career 162 game averages are 25HR 85RBI

In 8 big league seasons prior to this one, he had played over 100 games in only 4 of those seasons.

bmwreds31
05-05-2012, 01:13 PM
crazy 2nd in MLB in HR's right now:eek:

Kingspoint
05-05-2012, 01:58 PM
The one thing I would not have done is sign him to the extension. I realize that it helped spread the money out, but why add years to an ageing player?

Also it is kind of dumb to compare EE to Rolen as a 3B, since EE doesn't even play 3B anymore.The extension is really the only issue. Since we weren't going anywhere anyway, the original signing was "tolerable" (and I screamed at the top of my lungs for months at the time of the trade that this day would come back to haunt this team). Losing EE or having him here now was not the issue, either. It was about dealing with an aging Rolen, where it was obvious he'd be given playing time in lieu of others more capable during a season where the REDS had prepared for seven seasons to be World Series contenders. Probably every person who plays 3rd Base in the National League and half of those at Louisville are better choices than Rolen at 3rd Base. It's unfortunate that this is the year that his body decides to be "healthy". How much worse would a "normal, unhealthy" Rolen be than this one, one where Rolen claimed he was the healthiest he's been in five seasons?

I can't believe he still bats 6th in the lineup over Hanigan (.286) and Mesoraco (.300+), who get stuck at 8th in the lineup.

And, Zach Stewart was the "Starting Pitcher", the main piece of the trade that Toronto wanted, where we also added a Relief Pitcher. EE was thrown in as they were willing to take him off of our hands, a career .800 OPS hitter at the time, something very useful on the American League, especially for someone as young as he was.