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05-03-2012, 04:45 PM
that is the only explanation that fits the facts

Stray
05-03-2012, 04:49 PM
At least you're filling this place up with quality threads.

R_Webb18
05-03-2012, 05:22 PM
sweet thread.

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05-03-2012, 05:35 PM
did the thread have enough glucose for you

big boy
05-03-2012, 10:18 PM
He sure did give up a lot for Latos who isn't even better than Volquez. The Pads fleeced Jock on that dealio.

Mutaman
05-03-2012, 10:25 PM
What are the facts? All i see is an unsupported opinion.

Ironman92
05-03-2012, 10:34 PM
What I have a hard time believing is that Jocketty wants Willie Harris and other great ones that really fit the Dusty mold.

R_Webb18
05-03-2012, 10:36 PM
He sure did give up a lot for Latos who isn't even better than Volquez. The Pads fleeced Jock on that dealio.

yup b/c the stats rly prove that. okay. atleast do your homework.

the mlb season does not = 1 month

big boy
05-04-2012, 12:12 AM
yup b/c the stats rly prove that. okay. atleast do your homework.

the mlb season does not = 1 month

They both have one very good season. Volquez' 2008 and Latos' 2010. This year, Volquez is better. I thought this was common knowledge.

Anyway, even if you think Latos is better, is he so much better that Jock had to part with two other top prospects to get him?

R_Webb18
05-04-2012, 12:19 AM
They both have one very good season. Volquez' 2008 and Latos' 2010. This year, Volquez is better. I thought this was common knowledge.

Anyway, even if you think Latos is better, is he so much better that Jock had to part with two other top prospects to get him?

u do realize latos is already better + he's like 4 yrs younger?

brm7675
05-04-2012, 12:20 AM
He sure did give up a lot for Latos who isn't even better than Volquez. The Pads fleeced Jock on that dealio.

What did he give up? None of those given up were in the long term plans of the Reds and he filled a glaring need. Walt has made some questionable moves..the SD and CUB deals are not.

brm7675
05-04-2012, 12:21 AM
They both have one very good season. Volquez' 2008 and Latos' 2010. This year, Volquez is better. I thought this was common knowledge.

Anyway, even if you think Latos is better, is he so much better that Jock had to part with two other top prospects to get him?

Whom has greater upside? Latos without question.

big boy
05-04-2012, 02:58 AM
What did he give up? None of those given up were in the long term plans of the Reds and he filled a glaring need. Walt has made some questionable moves..the SD and CUB deals are not.



Players are assets. Whether or not those players fit in here does not matter. Jock gave away a lot to get a guy who is marginally better than what he already had.

R_Webb18
05-04-2012, 03:48 AM
Players are assets. Whether or not those players fit in here does not matter. Jock gave away a lot to get a guy who is marginally better than what he already had.

but thats not true. after 1 month yes but track record no.

LaFlamaBlanca
05-04-2012, 04:09 AM
Can we ban this guy? Ridiculously obvious windup threads.

lidspinner
05-04-2012, 09:21 AM
What did he give up? None of those given up were in the long term plans of the Reds and he filled a glaring need. Walt has made some questionable moves..the SD and CUB deals are not.

true, my only complaints with the SD trade was that we traded Edinson for, well, essesntially, another Edinson, just a younger version of EV.....and we had to throw in 2 studs, or 2 could be studs in the process......I would have rather traded Edinson for a stud left Fielder....but thats just my opinion and that is not really what this thread is about....but all in all, I cannot complain about the SD trade, that is only if I am trying to find a downside to it. I truly think Latos will end up a good starting pitcher, might not be a #1 but I think he will be a 2 for sure....

big boy
05-04-2012, 03:21 PM
true, my only complaints with the SD trade was that we traded Edinson for, well, essesntially, another Edinson, just a younger version of EV.....and we had to throw in 2 studs, or 2 could be studs in the process......I would have rather traded Edinson for a stud left Fielder....but thats just my opinion and that is not really what this thread is about....but all in all, I cannot complain about the SD trade, that is only if I am trying to find a downside to it. I truly think Latos will end up a good starting pitcher, might not be a #1 but I think he will be a 2 for sure....

Latos is younger and may end being 10 times the pitcher Volquez is. However, you can't get around the fact that he was a slightly better than league average pitcher last year and the Reds gave up a lot to acquire him. Just sayin'.

joshua
05-05-2012, 12:23 AM
Volquez is nowhere near Latos.

lidspinner
05-05-2012, 12:26 AM
Volquez is nowhere near Latos.

That's an opinion....gimme some facts and I might agree with ya.

Ironman92
05-05-2012, 12:31 AM
Volquez is in San Diego, California.

Latos is in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

They are definitely far apart.

2409.9 miles

R_Webb18
05-05-2012, 12:36 AM
well latos had 1 good start this year. did volquez have 1 last year?

Assembly Hall
05-05-2012, 09:17 AM
Sometimes you got to let a little time expire before you make a judgement. I know we gave up alot to get Latos. The jury is still out.