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nate
05-15-2012, 10:09 AM
I was looking at some yearly rolling comparisons* and came across two pitchers:


Name GS IP K/9 BB/9 HR/9 BABIP GB% HR/FB ERA FIP xFIP WAR
A 27 160.1 6.79 2.64 1.35 0.299 39.40% 12.70% 4.72 4.44 4.00 1
B 26 163 5.63 1.99 1.33 0.271 46.10% 14.60% 4.09 4.49 3.86 1

I found the similarity between the two pretty interesting. Basically, these two pitchers have provided the same level of performance even if they haven't gotten the same results. It's also interesting that they've pitched almost the same number of games and innings.

Thoughts? Guesses on who these two pitchers are?

*Note, by "rolling comparison," I mean from May 14, 2011 to May 14, 2012.

OesterPoster
05-15-2012, 10:23 AM
A is probably Homer Bailey. Not sure about B. Arroyo?

Bumstead
05-15-2012, 10:47 AM
Arroyo's HR rate is much higher than that...I was going to guess: A. Latos and B. Bailey...but I don't think that is right either...

Bum

mdccclxix
05-15-2012, 10:55 AM
The bottom one is Leake? Top one is Arroyo?

Bumstead
05-15-2012, 11:28 AM
My guess is Leake and Bailey with Leake being A.

Bronson's HR rate is 1.88/9 the counting this year and last.

Bum

blumj
05-15-2012, 12:14 PM
I can't believe no one's cheated yet.

nate
05-16-2012, 04:41 AM
No one's got it right yet.

I just think it's interesting how similar these two pitchers have performed while going about it in different ways.

DGullett35
05-16-2012, 07:49 AM
I don't know which one is which but Im guessing Leake, and Latos?? I say Latos because noone else has guessed him.:)

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:33 AM
Grover Cleveland Alexander and Christy Mathewson? Did I win?

oh...wait...you said 2011. Sorry

CySeymour
05-16-2012, 09:57 AM
Is Frank Pastore one?

nate
05-16-2012, 03:10 PM
A is Homer Bailey
B is Mike Leake

Bumstead
05-16-2012, 06:28 PM
A is Homer Bailey
B is Mike Leake

I had the pitchers right just in the wrong order...interesting comparison anyway.

CesarGeronimo
05-16-2012, 07:14 PM
I found the similarity between the two pretty interesting. Basically, these two pitchers have provided the same level of performance even if they haven't gotten the same results. It's also interesting that they've pitched almost the same number of games and innings.



Also, not that far apart in age:

Homer Bailey birthdate, May 3, 1986
Mike Leake birthdate, Nov. 12, 1987

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 07:52 PM
Also, not that far apart in age:

Homer Bailey birthdate, May 3, 1986
Mike Leake birthdate, Nov. 12, 1987

That's something that people forget WAY too often.

KittyDuran
05-16-2012, 08:19 PM
That's something that people forget WAY too often. Also, Bailey went into the minors from HS and Leake went straight to the majors after college...

westofyou
05-16-2012, 10:05 PM
This is what I see

Bailey has to work harder to get outs, he throws more pitches and we can see this a tad in the jumbers, he has a higher k rate and bb rate. Therefore this might mean two things:

He is prone to pitch from the stretch a little more in high leverage situations and he might get a little more tired in these bad innings, the aforementioned fatique likely leads to the ball being up in the zone often and that decreased gb rate. Also makng him prone to getting knocked around when that elevation happens

Leake lives on the ball in the bottom of the zone, lose that spotting ability and watch your game go in the toilet

I believe a good rotation can't carry two guys like this unless the offense is world beaters, which currently is not this squad