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alett12
05-21-2012, 03:56 PM
Is there any chance he gets promoted to louisville any time soon? He one of two players i think that deserve a promotion (the other is henry rodriguez) and this is based purely on offensive numbers.

MikeS21
05-21-2012, 07:28 PM
LaMarre's numbers are decent, but I think this is really the first stretch in the minors where he has put up decent numbers. While he is one of my favorite farmhands, let's see how well he can sustain those numbers for awhile. There is absolutely NO reason to move him to AAA in 2012, and I'm not sure 2013 is his year, either. I'd much rather see him force his way into a promotion.

dougdirt
05-21-2012, 08:01 PM
LaMarre's numbers are decent, but I think this is really the first stretch in the minors where he has put up decent numbers. While he is one of my favorite farmhands, let's see how well he can sustain those numbers for awhile. There is absolutely NO reason to move him to AAA in 2012, and I'm not sure 2013 is his year, either. I'd much rather see him force his way into a promotion.
You wouldn't promote hardly anyone then. LaMarre is on his way to deserving a promotion, if nothing else, after 2012, to AAA. It is too early to promote him now, it is May 21st and as several guys have shown, it is very early still and you can have huge swings in production at this point in the season still.

corkedbat
05-22-2012, 12:59 AM
I sure wish he could add about 40 or 50 points to that SLG%

cinreds21
05-22-2012, 01:58 AM
He'll likely be in Triple-A in Late August at the earliest.

dougdirt
05-22-2012, 09:51 AM
I sure wish he could add about 40 or 50 points to that SLG%

I sure wish I would wake up to Kate Upton every morning.

Really though, I can see LaMarre adding some power to his game over the next few years. He is a big guy and he shows some intriguing power the other way right now. Not entirely sure how much power he will add, but I could see him improving his power output a little bit.

alett12
05-22-2012, 12:27 PM
IMO but i think LaMarre is the only real leadoff canidate the reds have in the orginazation other than billy hamilton at the moment

rgslone
05-22-2012, 02:15 PM
IMO but i think LaMarre is the only real leadoff canidate the reds have in the orginazation other than billy hamilton at the moment

Wow. . . . Why do you think we have such a seeming scarcity? Is it just coincidental or does it have something to do with the Reds draft and development philosophy? We seem to have more than our share of swing and miss types; and Votto is the only one on the MLB roster that I've noticed who chokes up a little with 2 strikes in a concentrated effort to put the ball in play.

dougdirt
05-22-2012, 02:43 PM
It depends on what you want out of a leadoff hitter. To me, Henry Rodriguez would make a fine leadoff hitter. LaMarre could. Hamilton could.

The problem with the ideal leadoff hitter is that you generally want them to have lower power outputs, but still be able to get on base. Those guys are generally a tad rare because pitchers don't often walk guys who don't have much power and you just don't have many true .300 hitters who aren't also hitting for a bit of power.

BLark = HOF
05-22-2012, 02:48 PM
I believe if anybody deserves a promotion from Pensacola it is Henry Rodriguez.

dougdirt
05-22-2012, 02:51 PM
I believe if anybody deserves a promotion from Pensacola it is Henry Rodriguez.

Can't promote guys who are on the DL.

alett12
05-22-2012, 03:00 PM
Problem is where would Rodriguez go? He gets on alot and i would be fine with it but he is kind of blocked by the long term deal the reds signed with phillips and he hasn't shown me the ability to play another position.

dougdirt
05-22-2012, 03:09 PM
Problem is where would Rodriguez go? He gets on alot and i would be fine with it but he is kind of blocked by the long term deal the reds signed with phillips and he hasn't shown me the ability to play another position.

Third.

Benihana
05-22-2012, 03:38 PM
Rodriguez's future in the organization is at 3B. I am convinced LaMarre's ceiling is Drew Stubbs with less power and less strikeouts. That could be a useful player but unlikely to be an impact starter. Definitely not a LF.

Nonetheless, I'd still like to see him get to AAA at some point this season. Rodriguez should get there as soon as he comes off the DL.

Kc61
05-22-2012, 07:29 PM
I don't know if Henry Rodriguez would be a starter or a reserve with the Reds. Either way, though, to me he seems like a terrific fit on the ballclub. Switch hitter, good OBP man. If he plays third well, that would be a huge plus because it's a position in flux on the team. I'm excited about him being a Red in the next year or two.

Not worried about his power at all, seems to have good OBP skills.

Lamarre, I don't know that much about him, but potentially a fourth outfielder type based on the numbers.

dougdirt
05-22-2012, 09:40 PM
Lamarre, I don't know that much about him, but potentially a fourth outfielder type based on the numbers.

The numbers suggest he could be a solid starter in center, if they can carry forward.

alett12
05-23-2012, 03:11 PM
Rodriguez to third would be interesting if he had the arm which i'm not sure he does, but I see a list of guys in front of him that could end up at 3rd some are currently at other spots but might slide. Here's that list
Cozart, Frazier, Gergorius, and Soto even though he is now at 1B he has the athletic ablility considering he at one point was a SS i could also see Soto transistioning to LF

Benihana
05-23-2012, 03:28 PM
Rodriguez has played 29 of his 32 games at 3B in 2012. In other words, he has already moved to 3B.

rgslone
05-24-2012, 01:54 PM
Rodriguez to third would be interesting if he had the arm which i'm not sure he does, but I see a list of guys in front of him that could end up at 3rd some are currently at other spots but might slide. Here's that list
Cozart, Frazier, Gergorius, and Soto even though he is now at 1B he has the athletic ablility considering he at one point was a SS i could also see Soto transistioning to LF

alett12, I get most of my information about minor league players from dougdirt (thank you doug). . . . so if I'm wrong blame him (or my reading comprehension). But I don't think Cozart, Gregorious or Soto are/or should be considered options at 3B. Apparently, Soto can't cut it defensively. As for Cozart and Gregorious, they're too valuable at SS; plus if you move them to 3B the bat doesn't play as well there. Basically, moving one of those guys to 3B would be depreciating an asset. If both Cozart and Gregorious turn out to be what there potential indicates they might, and the time comes to make a decision, then I think we should trade Cozart or Gregorious because they should bring a big return at that point.

alett12
05-24-2012, 02:35 PM
I'm just saying they could be considered options because they are either blocked or in cozarts case likely to lose thier position due to a better prospect coming along such as Hamilton or Gergorious in the near future, and i was unware Rodriguez was being transistioned to 3B so I'm curious of what they will do with some of those guys like Soto and Frazier if rodriguez is the guy in the near future.

RedlegJake
05-24-2012, 11:49 PM
Soto is pretty much a first baseman at this point. I don't know if he has the speed or instincts to play left. Nef is turning into the pure power first baseman and yes, he is definitely blocked. Let him play, hit, improve and when its time, trade him.

I don't see Hamilton getting good enough defensively to come close to removing Cozart at SS. Not unless he makes a light years improvement with the glove. I do believe he could become an incredible centerfielder, though, and I really believe that's where he'll end up. Then it's down to whether Gregorious will hit well enough to usurp Zach at SS and I have real doubts about that. Likely Didi becomes a really athletic reserve who can backup 2nd, SS and 3B and hit well enough to be a very valuable player as such.

That leaves HRod and Vidal at third as the viable candidates. I think HRod will hit well enough to battle Frazier for the third base spot if indeed, Todd gets it after Rolen leaves for good. Or they might get a short term player like Youk and then re-open it to competition between who is still standing when he goes.

alett12
05-25-2012, 12:34 PM
I don't see anything wrong with seeing if Soto could play LF since it isn't easy to find a guy who can

dougdirt
05-25-2012, 12:41 PM
I don't see anything wrong with seeing if Soto could play LF since it isn't easy to find a guy who can

Soto is very slow. And to be honest, he isn't hitting at all right now. Probably not the best time to have him trying to learn a new position.

alett12
05-25-2012, 02:42 PM
True, the 1st thing they need to do is get him hitting but this is just my opinion from having seen yonder play left many times but he couldn't be any worse than that. If he is then get him hitting and send him in a package.

dougdirt
05-25-2012, 02:54 PM
True, the 1st thing they need to do is get him hitting but this is just my opinion from having seen yonder play left many times but he couldn't be any worse than that. If he is then get him hitting and send him in a package.

The difference is, Yonder had the kind of bat you can deal with playing below average defense. Soto probably doesn't have that kind of bat and his defense would probably be every bit as bad.

alett12
05-25-2012, 02:59 PM
True, then ship him to tampa for Cobb

dougdirt
05-25-2012, 03:31 PM
Alex Cobb has a lot more value.

j_m_t_us
06-20-2012, 05:29 PM
Nice article written at All Star game about 2 guys that are real class-acts!

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/jun/18/danny-hultzen-ranks-higher-than-general-in/