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HatchMo
06-03-2012, 03:48 PM
I see threads in the ORG about possible trades, i figured i would start a thread so we could all contribute.

Honestly, i think bruce is the 4 hitter and going and getting one is pointless. So, i think a leadoff hitter is the most useful to this team now.

My suggestion is Ben Revere from the Twins. He is hitting 2nd now, because Span is such a good leadoff hitter. He can play left, has a good avg, and OBP and has great speed. Hes, also under control through 2017. I'm not sure what it would take to get him, but the Twins are Desperate for pitching, So i would assume we could give them Heisey + Pitching prospects.

Razzle
06-03-2012, 05:04 PM
I see threads in the ORG about possible trades, i figured i would start a thread so we could all contribute.

Honestly, i think bruce is the 4 hitter and going and getting one is pointless. So, i think a leadoff hitter is the most useful to this team now.

My suggestion is Ben Revere from the Twins. He is hitting 2nd now, because Span is such a good leadoff hitter. He can play left, has a good avg, and OBP and has great speed. Hes, also under control through 2017. I'm not sure what it would take to get him, but the Twins are Desperate for pitching, So i would assume we could give them Heisey + Pitching prospects.

While his defense is good, I'm not sure his offense plays anywhere but CF. Also a leadoff guy is not just a guy with speed, but also a guy who can get on base at a good rate, which Revere does not do. I'm not sure what sense Revere makes for the Reds unless his plate discipline or power potential improve drastically.

[deleted]
06-03-2012, 05:59 PM
Yeah, Revere doesn't get on base at a substantial enough rate to make him a significant improvement. I'd shoot for DeJesus, personally.

Ironman92
06-03-2012, 06:19 PM
Brett Gardner for Heisey and Massett

Razzle
06-03-2012, 06:26 PM
Brett Gardner for Heisey and Massett

Not getting a 5 win cost-controlled outfielder for a 4th outfielder and a middle reliever, especially from the Yankees.

Assembly Hall
06-03-2012, 07:02 PM
;2616557']Yeah, Revere doesn't get on base at a substantial enough rate to make him a significant improvement. I'd shoot for DeJesus, personally.

I am right there with ya. Probably can be gotten pretty cheap.

Redsfansince72
06-03-2012, 09:36 PM
i would look at the Yankees AAA team and see if Russell Branyan could be had as a LH hitter for our bench. He can play 1st/3b/LF/RF and a solid power threat off the bench late in games. He was hitting .333 with 2 DB and 1 HR in 18 ABs since getting off the DL.
PLUS when Joey needs a dayoff. nice to have him as a backup with power at 1st..:)..

nw_ohio_fan
06-03-2012, 10:03 PM
Branyan is a nice pop bat off the bench. Before we look at a true lead off hitter, we need to look for bench guys. Let's be honest what good would a lead off guy be if we cant's make good at bats with a pinch hitter late. I mean look at Cairo today, just swung away, we needed to eat up pitches from that Astros bullpen.

Ironman92
06-03-2012, 10:06 PM
Would love to see Branyan playing RF, LF and 3rd....lol

He wasn't worth having 8 years ago with the Reds.

How about Kal Daniels?

americanoutlaw1
06-04-2012, 12:23 AM
Dexter Fowler, Denard Span, David DeJesus, Carlos Quinten, Alex Gordon, Gerrardo Parra are all guys who have either been rumored available or are becoming expendable pieces on teams who are not contending. I would look to upgrade LF for sure, and possibly CF as well. I just don't feel Stubbs is the right fit. Fowler and Quinten sloting in at leadoff and cleanup would make the Reds the premeire NL team, and a serious World Series conender.

Red in Atl
06-04-2012, 12:47 AM
What will it take to get Youk and have the Sox pay the $10 million owed for this year and the buyout on 2013?

The DARK
06-04-2012, 01:01 AM
DeJesus would be very nice. As much as we want to make a push, there's not a whole lot we can give up right now that a lot of teams are going to find useful. There's not a single MLB-caliber prospect in AAA that a team will find useful right now, especially with Soto struggling, and that's what a lot of teams are looking to deal for at the deadline. What we do have is an abundance of cost-controlled relievers, and that packaged with one of our position players should be enough for a minor upgrade, or it could fetch us a cost-controlled bench bat. A high OBP outfielder that could lead off would be an excellent addition (and not break the bank like a cleanup hitter). I'd stay away from Youkillis... he's expensive, Frazier's proving himself, and we don't need another financially burdening older third baseman.

[deleted]
06-04-2012, 01:16 AM
DeJesus just makes so much sense. A high OBP outfielder to hit in front of Votto is definitely what this team is lacking. Chicago is one of the few teams in definite "seller" mode, and he is relatively affordable. They'll try and push Soriano, but he's not worth it.

Headley or Quentin would be great cleanup options, but I'm not sure what SD would still want that they haven't already taken. Both would have a pretty steep price tag and create a bit of a jam. I honestly don't see the Reds doing anything with 3B this season.

Gordon or Gardner would be sublime, but neither will ever happen. Neither team has any real reason to trade these guys unless the offer was huge. Don't even think about message board fantasy Heisey + RP offers here, it's a bit insulting.

Fowler would be amazing (He's slugging .587 this year. What.), but there isn't much chance Colorado trades him... Unless, I guess, they got some ace pitching in return.

Span and Willingham are enticing and could easily help, but they come at high prices, player- and money- wise.

I'm torn on the Youkilis issue. He'd look mighty fine slotted between Votto and Bruce, and would allow BP to move back up in the order. But he's obviously on the downward swing of his career and there are a lot of teams to compete with for him. I just don't see the team giving up on Rolen yet.

malcontent
06-04-2012, 01:19 AM
I'd target Michael Brantley and Bryan LaHair.

5TimeWSChamps
06-04-2012, 03:07 AM
DeJesus makes the most sense.

IamRV
06-04-2012, 10:50 AM
Is it true the Cubbies are shopping Starlin Castro?

TannerSegbers
06-04-2012, 12:23 PM
Is it true the Cubbies are shopping Starlin Castro?

nope http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/06/chicago-cubs-rumors-saturday.html

Hondo
06-04-2012, 06:25 PM
I just can't believe this team didn't sign Johnny Damon for nothing like the Cleveland Indians did to play LF & bat lead off.

Ironman92
06-04-2012, 06:29 PM
I just can't believe this team didn't sign Johnny Damon for nothing like the Cleveland Indians did to play LF & bat lead off.

Chris Welsh hates Johnny Damon....and Adam Dunn....and Alex Rodriguez.

smixsell
06-04-2012, 08:04 PM
Branyan is a nice pop bat off the bench. Before we look at a true lead off hitter, we need to look for bench guys. Let's be honest what good would a lead off guy be if we cant's make good at bats with a pinch hitter late. I mean look at Cairo today, just swung away, we needed to eat up pitches from that Astros bullpen.

Spot on. Re-tooling our pathetic bench is something that we can likely do very inexpensively, so it is a realistic immediate priority.

OGB
06-04-2012, 08:09 PM
Brett Gardner for Heisey and Massett

Why give up Heisey and Massett when we can probably get him for Valaika and Zavada?
:rolleyes:

smixsell
06-04-2012, 08:16 PM
Chris Welsh hates Johnny Damon....and Adam Dunn....and Alex Rodriguez.

Johnny Damon, Adam Dunn, Alex Rodriguex, and I ALL hate Chris Welsh!

PS He's the DUMB, of the "Dumb and Dumberer" duo: Chis and Thom

redsfan1995
06-04-2012, 08:20 PM
I would love to see the Reds deal for Carlos Quintan from the padres he can play left field he can bat behind votto and this is his contract year.

Krawhitham
06-04-2012, 08:35 PM
I see threads in the ORG about possible trades, i figured i would start a thread so we could all contribute.

Honestly, i think bruce is the 4 hitter and going and getting one is pointless. So, i think a leadoff hitter is the most useful to this team now.

My suggestion is Ben Revere from the Twins. He is hitting 2nd now, because Span is such a good leadoff hitter. He can play left, has a good avg, and OBP and has great speed. Hes, also under control through 2017. I'm not sure what it would take to get him, but the Twins are Desperate for pitching, So i would assume we could give them Heisey + Pitching prospects.

The Reds will strengthen the bench and nothing else, Bruce is a good 4 hole hitter when he in on but he is off far too much. Plus unless Walt orders Dusty to bat Bruce 4th it is not going to happen, and maybe not even then. I get the feeling Dusty/Walt are like Art Howe/Billy Beane from the movie moneyball

Revering4Blue
06-04-2012, 09:20 PM
Will Venable or Seth Smith, anyone?

Revering4Blue
06-04-2012, 09:43 PM
Branyan is a nice pop bat off the bench. Before we look at a true lead off hitter, we need to look for bench guys. Let's be honest what good would a lead off guy be if we cant's make good at bats with a pinch hitter late. I mean look at Cairo today, just swung away, we needed to eat up pitches from that Astros bullpen.

I'm on board with Branyan. Low risk- high reward. It's not like we are suggesting that this should be the move at the deadline. This makes all kinds of sense.

redsfan1995
06-04-2012, 10:20 PM
Will Venable or Seth Smith, anyone?

Seth Smith would not be that bad. Though I only want him to be a pinch hitter because he is not hitting well this year even though he is playing in Oakland. But I want Heisey to get the majority of the bats in lf.

Ironman92
06-04-2012, 11:56 PM
Seth Smith would be so happy in GABP after playing out there. He would hit some scary long homers for us.

Venable plays well here as well.

If they get an outfielder....trade Heisey.

Ironman92
06-05-2012, 12:04 AM
I have no need for a 36 year old lefty with the 2nd highest strikeout rate of all-time....who is a career .239 hitter....off of righties.

How about Dmitri Young? Lenny Harris?

LeDoux
06-05-2012, 12:58 AM
DeJesus makes the most sense.

:thumbup:

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:50 PM
Soriano has dropped his bat weight and has 11 HR since the 2nd week of May.

Hit one in the 3rd deck in Minnesota tonight

EMAW
06-09-2012, 12:09 AM
Soriano is a terrible outfielder, can not stress that enough, would kill Reds in tight games

Assembly Hall
06-09-2012, 07:52 AM
Soriano is a terrible outfielder, can not stress that enough, would kill Reds in tight games

Cant argue the defense, but I thought we were looking for some offensive pop? Soriano would be a nice addition.

1869's Original
06-09-2012, 04:57 PM
Michael Bourn - I'd literally give up a finger or two if we could get him.

1869's Original
06-09-2012, 05:05 PM
I'd target Michael Brantley and Bryan LaHair.

But, if I have to be realistic, I think Michael Brantley might be the guy to trade for :thumbup:

malcontent
06-09-2012, 09:04 PM
But, if I have to be realistic, I think Michael Brantley might be the guy to trade for :thumbup:
Brantley with two more hits tonight. BA now .290 with a 17-game hitting streak.

I think the possibility of a Stubbs-for-Brantley deal (if it ever existed) is probably getting remoter by the day.

malcontent
06-09-2012, 09:07 PM
Michael Bourn - I'd literally give up a finger or two if we could get him.
Yeah, Bourn would have been a great pickup.

JayBruceFan
06-10-2012, 12:13 AM
I would really like to see the Reds go after Mitch Moreland from the Rangers.

He could play LF and 1B whenever Joey needs a day off and has the potential to become the cleanup hitter we desperately need