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Benihana
06-05-2012, 11:00 AM
My top 10 guys still available that would fit well with the Reds:

1. Hunter Virant LHP HS
2. Alex Wood LHP Georgia
3. Tanner Rahier 3B HS
4. Adam Brett Walker OF? Jacksonville
5. Rio Ruiz 3B HS
6. Jake Barrett RHP Arizona St
7. Carson Kelly 3B HS
8. Chris Beck RHP Georgia Southern
9. Brett Mooneyham LHP Stanford
10. Mitch Brown RHP HS

Hopefully the Reds can get one or two of these guys with the 78th, 109th, 142nd and/or 172nd picks today.

While some might argue against taking another high schooler, it doesn't seem as if any of the guys they've already drafted should be budget-busters. In fact, they may be able to get Travieso or Gelalich to sign for less than slot, freeing up some money to throw at one of the falling high schoolers in the second or third rounds today. I'm specifically thinking about Virant, Rahier or Kelly.

Skye Bolt is another difficult sign who could be interesting if the Reds think they could persuade him to forego college. Not to mention the coolest name in the draft.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 11:25 AM
Hearing Virant may be unsignable now. I wouldn't mind seeing the Reds take Nolan Fontana either, he has shades of Zack Cozart although he could be the eventual heir to Phillips at 2B.

krm1580
06-05-2012, 11:26 AM
Trey Williams I think would be an interesting pick. 3B with a big bat and son of a former major leaguer.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 11:27 AM
Trey Williams I think would be an interesting pick. 3B with a big bat and son of a former major leaguer.

He does have great tools, but I've heard he's not much of an actual baseball player. Still though could be interesting after the third round.

lollipopcurve
06-05-2012, 12:04 PM
wouldn't mind seeing the Reds take Nolan Fontana either, he has shades of Zack Cozart although he could be the eventual heir to Phillips at 2B.

Agreed. Him or Renda. I'd like to see them take either guy.

krm1580
06-05-2012, 12:09 PM
I have a question maybe somebody knows the answer to.

In the NFL, if the entire draft goes by and a guy is not picked he is free to sign as a free agent with any team.

How does that work in baseball? If a guy is not drafted can you get him as an undrafted free agent? And more to the point, if a guy is an undrafted free agent, are they subject to the MLB draft pool?

redsmetz
06-05-2012, 12:12 PM
I have a question maybe somebody knows the answer to.

In the NFL, if the entire draft goes by and a guy is not picked he is free to sign as a free agent with any team.

How does that work in baseball? If a guy is not drafted can you get him as an undrafted free agent? And more to the point, if a guy is an undrafted free agent, are they subject to the MLB draft pool?

They're free agents and can sign with any club. Ryan Hanigan was an undrafted free agent.

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 12:13 PM
The draft has restarted,

Benihana
06-05-2012, 12:13 PM
Hearing Virant may be unsignable now. I wouldn't mind seeing the Reds take Nolan Fontana either, he has shades of Zack Cozart although he could be the eventual heir to Phillips at 2B.

Welp, there goes that. Fontana the first player selected on Day 2.

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2012, 12:15 PM
I must have missed it, but is day 2 not on tv anywhere?

Benihana
06-05-2012, 12:16 PM
I must have missed it, but is day 2 not on tv anywhere?

You can watch (analysis) live on mlb.com

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 12:17 PM
I am watching it on mlb.com.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 12:17 PM
They're free agents and can sign with any club. Ryan Hanigan was an undrafted free agent.

So was Donald Lutz.

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2012, 12:18 PM
Why would they not put this on MLB's channel? It's not like there's a game on or anything of note.

OnBaseMachine
06-05-2012, 12:18 PM
Brandon Beachy was also undrafted.

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 12:20 PM
So far Benihanas players are still on the board.

krm1580
06-05-2012, 12:21 PM
They're free agents and can sign with any club. Ryan Hanigan was an undrafted free agent.

Yeah I assumed that. I guess my question is this. Josh Bell last year, would have been completely unsignable this year under the rules and most likely would not be drafted at all.

In that situation, if a guy like that went undrafted, could you sign him as an undrafted free agent for like 5 million, skirting the draft pool rules.

redsmetz
06-05-2012, 12:21 PM
So was Donald Lutz.

Right, but I think Lutz was considered an international free agent signing since he was from Germany (even though he had/has dual citizenship). Am I right about that?

New Fever
06-05-2012, 12:29 PM
Yeah I assumed that. I guess my question is this. Josh Bell last year, would have been completely unsignable this year under the rules and most likely would not be drafted at all.

In that situation, if a guy like that went undrafted, could you sign him as an undrafted free agent for like 5 million, skirting the draft pool rules.

No 100,000 max for any UFA.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 12:30 PM
5 picks until the Reds...

krm1580
06-05-2012, 12:31 PM
No 100,000 max for any UFA.

Thanks

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 12:33 PM
Looks like the Reds will have their chance to draft a player off the op's list.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 12:34 PM
There goes Chris Beck.

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 12:35 PM
Cchris Beck just got selected by the White Sox at pick #76.

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 12:35 PM
The Reds are on the clock.

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2012, 12:36 PM
Ben should be happy!

camisadelgolf
06-05-2012, 12:37 PM
The Reds select Tanner Rahier, shortstop from Palm Desert High School.

edit:
Looks like he profiles more as a third baseman.

edit2:
He was just called a "Pete Rose-type".

Benihana
06-05-2012, 12:38 PM
YEAH!!!!

Great pick, I'm excited! He should be signable too.

OnBaseMachine
06-05-2012, 12:38 PM
Nice pick. Power bat who profiles as a 3B.

RED VAN HOT
06-05-2012, 12:38 PM
Great pick! Now sign him.

powersackers
06-05-2012, 12:38 PM
The Reds select Tanner Rahier, shortstop from Palm Desert High School.

edit:
Looks like he profiles more as a third baseman.

They said he's first round talent. This great draft appears to continue!

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 12:40 PM
Who should the Reds target with pick #109? Do they go for a High Schooler who drops or go for a more signable college player?

Benihana
06-05-2012, 12:41 PM
Rahier was ranked #35 by BA, #31 by Keith Law, and #43 by John Sickles.

Reds get him at 78. Great pick, good upside and projectability. "Baseball rat." What's not to like?

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2012, 12:41 PM
Washington took Tony Renda. Their draft continues to impress. Even though he's small, I think he's going to be a good player.

redsmetz
06-05-2012, 12:41 PM
nm

OnBaseMachine
06-05-2012, 12:42 PM
From J.J. Cooper:

#Reds take Tanner Rahier with 2nd round pick. Was best remaining player on our board (ranked No. 34 on BA 500).

https://twitter.com/#!/jjcoop36

camisadelgolf
06-05-2012, 12:45 PM
3rd base, outfield, and starting pitching were the biggest needs for the Reds organization down the road. Based on their picks so far, it looks like they're aware of that.

MikeS21
06-05-2012, 12:46 PM
Another video on Rahier:

http://vimeo.com/19805043

thorn
06-05-2012, 12:47 PM
Rahier was ranked #35 by BA, #31 by Keith Law, and #43 by John Sickles.

Reds get him at 78. Great pick, good upside and projectability. "Baseball rat." What's not to like?

Why did he fall out of the 1st round?

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 12:47 PM
Braves just drafted Alex Wood.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 12:47 PM
Buckley has never gone without selecting an up-the-middle player in the first five selections. Can you guess what's coming next?

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 12:48 PM
Carson kelly to the Cardinals.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 12:49 PM
Carson kelly to the Cardinals.

Damn, that's a nice pick.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 12:58 PM
Updated Big Board For Reds After 90 picks

1. Hunter Virant LHP HS - could be unsignable
2. Adam Brett Walker OF? Jacksonville - only if he can play OF
3. Rio Ruiz 3B HS - probably redundant with Rahier and Rosa in the system. Could go to college.
4. Jake Barrett RHP Arizona St - good value here and signable
5. Brett Mooneyham LHP Stanford - ditto
6. Kenny Diekeroger SS Stanford - expect up-the-middle players and Hinojosa is too tough of a sign
7. Skye Bolt OF HS - very tough sign
8. D'Vone McClure OF HS - fits up the middle criteria in CF
9. Peter O'Brien C Florida - best catcher remaining
10. Avery Romero 3B/C? HS - could move to catcher

Benihana
06-05-2012, 12:59 PM
Braves with Sims and Wood having a very good draft while sticking to their philosophy of going after local guys.

camisadelgolf
06-05-2012, 01:01 PM
Why did he fall out of the 1st round?
Scouts hate it when prospects take a nontraditional route to getting drafted. Instead of playing for his high school team, he played on a wooden bat league in the spring. He has the strength of a power hitter, but his swing doesn't necessarily generate as much power for a corner position that you'd like. His arm is strong, but his throwing mechanics needs some work. There's supposedly a limited amount of concern about his ability to hit breaking balls, but with how many high schoolers isn't that a concern?

Benihana
06-05-2012, 01:02 PM
O'Brien just went to the Yankees. Walker to the Twins. Reds up in 10 picks as the third round is well underway.

Barrett and Mooneyham are two college pitchers to keep an eye on here.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:04 PM
O'Brien and Barrett are completely signable and talented

thorn
06-05-2012, 01:04 PM
Scouts hate it when prospects take a nontraditional route to getting drafted. Instead of playing for his high school team, he played on a wooden bat league in the spring. He has the strength of a power hitter, but his swing doesn't necessarily generate as much power for a corner position that you'd like. His arm is strong, but his throwing mechanics needs some work. There's supposedly a limited amount of concern about his ability to hit breaking balls, but with how many high schoolers isn't that a concern?

Thanks Cam

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:07 PM
Wish the Reds had grabbed O'Brien but I like Rahier just as much

Benihana
06-05-2012, 01:12 PM
There goes Romero. Still like Barrett or Mooneyham for the Reds here.

Austin Barr is a HS C to keep an eye on for the next couple rounds.

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 01:15 PM
Looks like the Reds can draft one of the players on Benihana's list.

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 01:17 PM
Reds are on the clock.

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2012, 01:18 PM
Daniel Langfield is the Reds pick

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:19 PM
Dan Langfield U of Memphis rhp, can throw it up to 97, good slider that moves, "clearly a reliever" but can bring it

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:19 PM
I like this pick at #3

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:20 PM
college arm, has good fastball and slider with movement, is signable and should move quickly

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2012, 01:20 PM
It's interesting. Buckley has really focused on pitchers who can dial it up this draft.

The experts seem to think he's a reliever. This pick could be a little high for a reliever, unless the Reds seem his as a starter. He looks like a good arm, though.

JaxRed
06-05-2012, 01:20 PM
Does he throw strikes or is he walking in Memphis?

Benihana
06-05-2012, 01:20 PM
Langfield- not bad. They say he's "clearly a reliever." Needs better command. Could be the right-handed Donnie Joseph, maybe more (better fastball).

BA has him #60, Sickels #77. Seems like decent value and I don't mind drafting relievers so long as it's after the first two rounds.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:20 PM
I think his size is the reason they peg him as a reliever, only 6' tall and a bit slight of frame

PuffyPig
06-05-2012, 01:21 PM
I like this pick at #3


So do I, getting college relievers who might move quickly in rounds 3 and up are often a good idea.

OesterPoster
06-05-2012, 01:21 PM
Does he throw strikes or is he walking in Memphis?

We'll find out if he's the Beale deal.

Superdude
06-05-2012, 01:21 PM
Not opposed to relievers at this stage in the game. Maybe he pulls a Cingrani too and gets a shot as a starter?

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:21 PM
2011
Made 15 appearances including 12 starts...Posted 4.32 ERA in 85.1 innings pitched...Third among C-USA pitchers with 94 strikeouts on the year...Held opponents to a .247 batting average...Had six quality starts... Recorded seven or more strikeouts in six appearances...Earned wins in his first two starts and finished season with a 3-3 record...Allowed two runs on four hits over five innings to pick up the win in the season opener against Evansville (2/18/11)...Tied single-game school record with 16 strikeouts as he earned win at Kennesaw State (2/25/11)...Pitched a complete-game versus Eastern Illinois (3/18/11) allowing one earned run, but was saddled with the loss...Struck out 11 at UAB (4/16/11) in seven innings of work, but didn't factor in the decision...Earned a complete-game win against Houston (5/19/11) and posted 11 strikeouts for his third win of the year.

2010
Had a solid freshman campaign for the Tigers, going 4-4 with 47 strikeouts in 39 innings...Finishined second on the staff with a 4.62 ERA in 17 appearances...Made three starts...Got off to a fast start recording four wins and a save in his first seven collegiate appearances...Averaged a staff-high 10.85 strikeouts per nine innings pitched...Was 0-3 as a starter...Fared better out of the bullpen, going 4-1 with a 3.58 ERA and 32 strikeouts...Went 1-1 with a 3.86 ERA in league play...Struck out six in three innings in his collegiate debut at UT-Martin (2/23/10)...Picked up his first collegiate victory after fanning three in 2.2 innings of relief vs. Bradley...Equaled a career-high with six K's vs. Portland (3/8/10)...Worked a scoreless inning to earn his first career save and preserve a 5-3 win over South Alabama (3/17/01)...Fanned five in just 2.2 innings to claim the win in a 13-9 triumph over Tennessee Tech (3/21/10)...Earned his fourth win of the year and helped Memphis secure its first-ever series win over Rice after giving up one unearned run in 3.2 innings for an 8-7 Tigers' win (3/27/10).

Prep
Was a four-year letterwinner on the mound for head coach Dennis Almeida's Somerset High School squad...Had a dominant senior season for the Raiders...Earned All-Area, All-Scholastic and All-State honors in 2009...Fanned 118 batters in just 57.1 innings of work...Went 5-2 with a gaudy 0.85 ERA in nine starts...Logged six complete games and a pair of shutouts...Held opponents to a .146 batting average...Struck out 10 or more in eight of his nine outings, including fanning 17 twice...Went 4-2 with 74 strikeouts and a save as a junior...Allowed just 27 hits in 44 innings...Helped his SHS team to a Massachusetts D2 State title in 2006.

From his college page

OesterPoster
06-05-2012, 01:22 PM
His dad, Paul Langfield, played minor league ball in the early '80s. Low A and high A is as far as he went.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:22 PM
His dad, Paul Langfield, played minor league ball in the early '80s. Low A and high A is as far as he went.

That always helps - usually means good solid coaching growing up

OesterPoster
06-05-2012, 01:24 PM
His Twitter handle:

@D_Langfield

Benihana
06-05-2012, 01:24 PM
Mooneyham goes to the Nats at #111. It is freaking UNBELIEVABLE how they always do what I would have done in the draft. It's like their scouting director is my doppleganger.

Jays take Alford. If anyone can sign him, they can but it's still unlikely. Good risk/reward in the third round.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:24 PM
https://www.facebook.com/people/Dan-Langfield/785662782

Dan
06-05-2012, 01:25 PM
Reds just drafted Sam LeCure's replacement, I think.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:25 PM
All I hope is that the Reds can sign all 5 of these first picks and I'll be ecstatic

Benihana
06-05-2012, 01:28 PM
All I hope is that the Reds can sign all 5 of these first picks and I'll be ecstatic

I'd be surprised if the Reds don't sign all five of these guys.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:30 PM
I'd be surprised if the Reds don't sign all five of these guys.

I'm mostly worried about Winker and Rahier

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:30 PM
Maybe I'm just a worry-wart

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:31 PM
If they do sign them, and as much as I'm following the Reds farm lately I am REALLY liking our farm system next year and the year after

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:32 PM
There goes Jake Barrett to the D-Backs

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:33 PM
College relievers are jumping off the board

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 01:33 PM
Jake Barrett just drafted by the Diamondbacks.

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 01:35 PM
Who is left that you want the Reds to draft in the 4th round?

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:36 PM
Wow - some high school coaches should be fired. Talking about the Quintana kid the Brewers took. They said his coach pitched him 400 pitches in 4 days in a tournament.

redsmetz
06-05-2012, 01:36 PM
Maybe I'm just a worry-wart

And that's going to make you stand out here how? :D

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:37 PM
@redsmetz - LOL. I don't try to standout here. You get yelled at.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:38 PM
There is a round 3 comp too? I did not realize that. I thought com picks ended in round 2.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 01:39 PM
Who is left that you want the Reds to draft in the 4th round?

A lot of guys that could be tough signs are still on the board.

1. Kenny Diekeroger SS Stanford - expect up-the-middle players and Hinojosa is too tough of a sign
2. Skye Bolt OF HS - very tough sign
3. D'Vone McClure OF HS - fits up the middle criteria in CF
4. Austin Barr C HS - the best C on the board
5. Taylore Cherry RHP HS - huge local kid, very inconsistent. Very high risk (talent not signability) but high reward.
6. Hunter Virant LHP HS - might be worth the hail mary signing risk here
7. Preston Beck OF UT-Arlington
8. Rio Ruiz 3B HS - less of a need/spot for him now with Rosa and Rahier. Plus he may go to college now.
9. Trey Williams 3B HS - ditto
10. Damien Magnifico RHP Oklahoma - C'est magnifico

OesterPoster
06-05-2012, 01:40 PM
Wow - some high school coaches should be fired. Talking about the Quintana kid the Brewers took. They said his coach pitched him 400 pitches in 4 days in a tournament.

The local state champs had a kid pitch 5 innings on Friday last week, and then 5 more on Saturday to meet his 10 innings max for the week. How many pitches is that though?

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:41 PM
The local state champs had a kid pitch 5 innings on Friday last week, and then 5 more on Saturday to meet his 10 innings max for the week. How many pitches is that though?

At least innings rules help but they don't realize a wild kid might throw 100 pitches in 5 innings and end up throwing 200 in ten innings!

JaxRed
06-05-2012, 01:41 PM
The local state champs had a kid pitch 5 innings on Friday last week, and then 5 more on Saturday to meet his 10 innings max for the week. How many pitches is that though?

Dusty has a brother?

Scrap Irony
06-05-2012, 01:43 PM
Reds just drafted Sam LeCure's replacement, I think.

Way too early to say, but I suspect he'll be tried as a starter, as he has a very good fastball (sits low 90s but touches 96) and curve (sharp, late break), but needs a changeup. Most prospective pitchers need to learn (or re-learn) a change anyway.

Two plus pitches, difficult to hit (.208 BAA), more Ks than IP-- he's going to begin his career starting, IMO, and is likely to continue in that role until he proves to Cincinnati that he can't.

Another very high ceiling pick. Actually, the Reds haven't picked a low ceiling guy yet. All are extremely projectable.

Unfortunately, they also have low floors. (Though HS SS Reiher looks like a good bet to at least sniff the major leagues.)

Benihana
06-05-2012, 01:44 PM
Way too early to say, but I suspect he'll be tried as a starter, as he has a very good fastball (sits low 90s but touches 96) and curve (sharp, late break), but needs a changeup. Most prospective pitchers need to learn (or re-learn) a change anyway.

Two plus pitches, difficult to hit (.208 BAA), more Ks than IP-- he's going to begin his career starting, IMO, and is likely to continue in that role until he proves to Cincinnati that he can't.

Another very high ceiling pick. Actually, the Reds haven't picked a low ceiling guy yet. All are extremely projectable.

Unfortunately, they also have low floors. (Though HS SS Reiher looks like a good bet to at least sniff the major leagues.)

I'd say Gelalich has the lowest ceiling of the players the Reds have drafted. Still though, it's hard not to get excited about this draft class so far.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 01:47 PM
Astros draft Ruiz to start the 4th round. Hell of a draft for them so far, although it will be interesting to see if they can sign everyone.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:50 PM
KC picks Diekroeger - nice pick for them at this spot

Benihana
06-05-2012, 01:52 PM
No one that jumps out on the board at this point unless they go for a hard sign HS pick (which I'd love to see one more of, but am not holding my breath...)

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:52 PM
No one I love on the board at this point unless they go for a hard sign HS pick (which I'd love to see one more of, but am not holding my breath...)

Now is when I really start to rely entirely on the Reds scouts

Benihana
06-05-2012, 01:53 PM
Now is when I really start to rely entirely on the Reds scouts

Yep

Scrap Irony
06-05-2012, 01:53 PM
I'm betting Bernie Stowe hates this draft so far: the names on the back of the jerseys are going to be tough. Redszone needs to have a name list handy.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:55 PM
I'm betting Bernie Stowe hates this draft so far: the names on the back of the jerseys are going to be tough. Redszone needs to have a name list handy.

Stowe and Reds - two names that are synonomous

Scrap Irony
06-05-2012, 01:55 PM
I'd say Gelalich has the lowest ceiling of the players the Reds have drafted. Still though, it's hard not to get excited about this draft class so far.

I don't know. He's projected to hit for a lot more power, which would make him a five-tool prospect. (Low 90s arm in RF, with speed, eye, and hitting tool.)

How many teams have their lowest ceiling as a five-tooler?

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:56 PM
There goes Xavier's Seth Willoughby

Benihana
06-05-2012, 01:57 PM
Preston Beck or Trey Williams would look good here.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 01:58 PM
Trey Williams would look tremendous

Scrap Irony
06-05-2012, 02:00 PM
Williams doesn't have a position, though. Between Rosa and Rahier, 3B is handled.

I'm guessing either an OF or a pitcher. College reliever, perhaps.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 02:00 PM
Jon Moscot Pepperdine - 6'4" SP led Cape Cod league in strikeouts.

D'Vone McClure goes to Cleveland with the next pick. Oh well.

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2012, 02:01 PM
Reds take Jonathan Moscot

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 02:02 PM
John Moscot, college pitcher, pitched well on the Cape (led in Ks), starter, from Pepperdine, has splitter, fastball at 96, curve, fair command, "knows how to pitch"

REDREAD
06-05-2012, 02:03 PM
Reds take Jonathan Moscot

I thought we already had a Moscot in Gapper :)

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 02:03 PM
I thought we already had a Moscot in Gapper :)

groan....

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2012, 02:03 PM
Callis said he's not overpowering, but he knows how to use all of his pitches and pitched well in the Cape Cod League, as he lead the league in Ks.

This looks like a possible sleeper pick here. I like it!

PuffyPig
06-05-2012, 02:04 PM
Williams doesn't have a position, though. Between Rosa and Rahier, 3B is handled.

I'm guessing either an OF or a pitcher. College reliever, perhaps.

I wouldn't worry about any minor leaguer "having a position", since most will fall by the wayside before they reach the majors.

Alonso and Grandal didn't have positions either.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 02:05 PM
Moscot is a guy who profiles to remain a starter until he proves he isn't as opposed to a reliever from the git go. Has a fair arsenal of pitches to begin with and fair command. Has an idea of how to pitch, mixes his pitches.

I think with pro coaching and experience he might turn into a solid #3 MOR starter with a ceiling maybe #2. He can get it up to 96 so he has arm strength, not a soft tosser even if he's not a flamethrower.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 02:08 PM
Add to that he's a college pitcher with that polish, signable, and should move fairly quickly as compared to a high schooler.

REDREAD
06-05-2012, 02:08 PM
Moscot is a guy who profiles to remain a starter until he proves he isn't as opposed to a reliever from the git go. Has a fair arsenal of pitches to begin with and fair command. Has an idea of how to pitch, mixes his pitches.

I think with pro coaching and experience he might turn into a solid #3 MOR starter with a ceiling maybe #2. He can get it up to 96 so he has arm strength, not a soft tosser even if he's not a flamethrower.

Yea, at this point, everyone is going to have warts. I'm pleased with this pick.
Heck, if you get a #4 or #5 draft pick to be a contributor out of the bullpen, that's a major success, IMO.

JaxRed
06-05-2012, 02:09 PM
Add to that he's a college pitcher with that polish, signable, and should move fairly quickly as compared to a high schooler.

Funny, he doesn't sound polish :)

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 02:14 PM
Funny, he doesn't sound polish :)

groan....the puns are coming thick today

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 02:15 PM
I love what the Reds have done to this point. I can't fault this draft.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 02:17 PM
I love what the Reds have done to this point. I can't fault this draft.

Agreed. Beck, T.Williams, and Mazilli are all names to watch here in the fifth round.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 02:18 PM
If the Reds got and signed Trey Williams in this round I'd pass out with happiness. With my heart that's not much of an exaggeration.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 02:19 PM
I have to think he's signalled he's going to college if he doesn't get ahigher pick. Too mich talent to fall this far.

camisadelgolf
06-05-2012, 02:23 PM
The 5th round has begun. So far, the Reds have drafted nothing but Hall of Famers and All-Stars.

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2012, 02:41 PM
Reds take Mason Felt in round 5, LHP.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 02:42 PM
Mason Felt, LHP, HS from Georgia, sounds kind of a long term project with so-so stuff.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 02:43 PM
Mason Felt is a 2012 LHP with a 6-3 190 lb. frame from Hoschton, GA who attends Hebron Christian Academy. Nice pitcher's build, room to fill out and get stronger. Leg tuck delivery, tall at release, some effort and fall off, high 3/4's arm slot. Fastball to 89 mph, maintains velocity well from the stretch, big downer curveball for strikes, good feel for change up with some fade. Works quickly and throws strikes. Verbal commitment to Oregon State.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 02:48 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=21919777


mlb video of mason felt

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 02:50 PM
Mason Felt, Hebron Christian, LHP, Senior
Struck out 16 hitters in Game 2 of the Class A finals; 11-1 last year.
Rated #8 HS LHP by ESPNHS

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 02:51 PM
Who is left that the Reds should consider? How many rounds are drafted today?

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 02:53 PM
rounds 2-15 today

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 02:54 PM
as far as players left, i'll be honest, at this point I trust the scouts because I have no idea. Trey Williams is still on the board and has a lot of talent (3B) but is probably unsignable if he's dropped this far. That's why I just let the scouts guide me from this point

OesterPoster
06-05-2012, 02:56 PM
Mason Felt, LHP, HS from Georgia, sounds kind of a long term project with so-so stuff.

An apt anagram of Mason Felt's name should he become a LOOGY reliever?

lefts moan

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 03:03 PM
An apt anagram of Mason Felt's name should he become a LOOGY reliever?

lefts moan

Oh brother...the punsters have found a home today

kg112686
06-05-2012, 03:05 PM
i think they should take a chance on the somewhat local kid Taylore Cherry, the 6'9 260lbs righty from Vandalia Butler HS in Dayton. Low to mid 90's fastball with the potential to gain in velocity. Has some control issues but worth a shot I think

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 03:06 PM
i think they should take a chance on the somewhat local kid Taylore Cherry, the 6'9 260lbs righty from Vandalia Butler HS in Dayton. Low to mid 90's fastball with the potential to gain in velocity. Has some control issues but worth a shot I think

If he hits the 90s I know he is for sure on the radar of every team - someone will pick him at some point/they don't miss many kids anymore

camisadelgolf
06-05-2012, 03:08 PM
An apt anagram of Mason Felt's name should he become a LOOGY reliever?

lefts moan
I felt that one coming from a mile away.

OesterPoster
06-05-2012, 03:14 PM
i think they should take a chance on the somewhat local kid Taylore Cherry, the 6'9 260lbs righty from Vandalia Butler HS in Dayton. Low to mid 90's fastball with the potential to gain in velocity. Has some control issues but worth a shot I think

If they do, I promise no puns from me. I can't speak for these other hacks though. :D

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 03:15 PM
4 pitchers 2 college, 2 HS, 3 righties, 1 lefty; 2 outfielders both lefty, 1 HS, 1 college; 1 SS HS = pretty well spread out.

I am absolutely sure the next pick will be a pitcher or a position player

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 03:24 PM
Seth Streich form Ohio U. goes to the As

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 03:27 PM
Reds are on the clock.

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2012, 03:28 PM
Reds select Joseph Hudson, catch from Notre Dame.

VottoFan54
06-05-2012, 03:29 PM
The Reds select Joseph Hudson. He is a defensive catcher from Notre Dame.

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2012, 03:29 PM
Supposedly great defensive catcher with power potential. Profiles, according to Mayo, as a backup.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 03:29 PM
defensive catcher prospect - has some power but mostly being picked for his defense. "Can't really hit but has some power" LOL - another Tucker Barnhart

redsmetz
06-05-2012, 03:29 PM
Argh, I was going to say I bet we take a catcher. It would have been completely pulled out of thin air (or somewhere else!) and missed the opportunity to seem like quite the sage.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 03:30 PM
I guess you need someone to catch the pitchers in the minors

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2012, 03:30 PM
defensive catcher prospect - has some power but mostly being picked for his defense. "Can't really hit but has some power" LOL - another Tucker Barnhart

I don't think Barnhart is a fair comparable. Barnhart can hit, he just can't hit for power. This guy sounds like the complete opposite.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 03:31 PM
I don't think Barnhart is a fair comparable. Barnhart can hit, he just can't hit for power. This guy sounds like the complete opposite.

That's true. Maybe we can do some Frankensteinian experiment and get a Hudson Barnhart out of them

Nathan
06-05-2012, 03:34 PM
Corky Miller?

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 03:34 PM
He has to be able to grow a mustache like Corky first

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 03:48 PM
Nick Goody to the Yankees - solid pick at this point - excellent K to walk, kind of surprised he's still around

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 03:50 PM
round 7 starts. Astros are having a great draft. I'm really glad they're heading to the AL West.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 03:51 PM
Has UConn 2B LJ Mazilli gone yet? I'm kind of surprised they haven't taken a middle infielder in the first 8 picks.

Good bloodlines there...

JayBruceFan
06-05-2012, 03:52 PM
Kinda surprised that Taylore Cherry hasn't been picked yet. Guess the commitment to North Carolina is scaring people away

Benihana
06-05-2012, 03:53 PM
round 7 starts. Astros are having a great draft. I'm really glad they're heading to the AL West.

Agreed. I know Jeff Luhnow is smart.

redsmetz
06-05-2012, 03:54 PM
I posted a piece under Hudson's thread, but apparently he hit very well this season. Also another piece from his play in the New England Summer League has Hudson saying that Brad Radke is his cousin.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 03:56 PM
dp

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:00 PM
I love bloodlines. It's not just the genetics, though they help. It's the coaching they get from the time they can toddle. They get taught correctly from birth until proper mechanics are second nature. Whatever talent they have is usually magnified.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 04:06 PM
Reds on the clock...

camisadelgolf
06-05-2012, 04:07 PM
Seth Streich form Ohio U. goes to the As
The Athletics had also drafted his brother from WVU but waited a couple years before getting drafted again and signing with the Twins.

VottoFan54
06-05-2012, 04:07 PM
The Reds select CF Beau Amaral from UCLA.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:08 PM
Beau Amaral, son of former major leaguer, CFer at UCLA, good hitter but has some swing and miss, goes all out, aggressive player, loves to play

Benihana
06-05-2012, 04:09 PM
Beau Amaral, son of former major leaguer, CFer at UCLA, good hitter but has some swing and miss, goes all out, aggressive player, loves to play

Good value according to BA, who had him ranked #191 overall. I'll take it.

MikeS21
06-05-2012, 04:09 PM
So the Reds have drafted 2/3 of the Bruins' OF?

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:10 PM
Notes
Has been among UCLA's top hitters the last two seasons...enters his junior campaign with a .327 career batting average in 122 games (115 starts)...has played in the Cape Cod League the last two summers (2010, 2011)...as a sophomore at UCLA in 2011, finished third on the team in batting average (.299)...in 2010, posted the highest batting average by a Bruin freshman (.354) since 1998, when Garrett Atkins set the school's freshman record (.383)...in 16 career postseason games, has batted .344, going 22-for-64...ranks second on UCLA's all-time postseason hits list (22)...led UCLA in batting average during the 2010 postseason (.396) and at the 2010 College World Series (.375)...was one of three Bruins to earn All-Tournament Team honors at the 2010 NCAA Los Angeles Regional and 2010 College World Series.

2011 (summer)
Played in 27 games for the Chatham Anglers of the Cape Cod League...batted .242 with one home run, three doubles, five RBI and 11 walks...Chatham went 15-28-1, finishing fifth in the league's Eastern Division.

2011
Started 58 games (UCLA's final 55 contests in center field, UCLA's first three as the designated hitter)...ranked third on the team with a .299 batting average...led UCLA with 16 doubles and 37 runs...also tallied two home runs, three triples and 29 RBI...secured All-Pac-10 Team honors...finished second on the team with a .404 on-base percentage...tied for fifth in the Pac-10 with 16 doubles and was tied for fourth in the conference with 15 hit-by-pitches...stole eight bases in 12 attempts...led UCLA in Pac-10 action with a .347 batting average (35-for-101), along with a .445 on-base percentage and .485 slugging percentage in conference games...reached base safely via a hit, walk or hit-by-pitch in 26 of the team's 27 Pac-10 games...hit safely in 24 of 27 Pac-10 contests...compiled separate hitting streaks of 15 games (May 6-29) and 14 games (April 5-29)...led UCLA at the plate with runners in scoring position, batting .377 (23-for-61)...totaled 16 multiple-hit games and four multiple-RBI games, including UCLA's only performance with five or more RBI, netting a career-high six RBI in a thrilling 8-5 comeback victory against Arizona (April 17)...went 3-for-4 with one home run, one double, six RBI and two runs in the win over Arizona - tied the contest, 5-5, with a two-run homer in the seventh inning and helped win the game with a three-RBI double in the eighth inning...went 7-for-12 (.583) with six RBI and four runs in the series victory against Arizona (April 15-17)...went 4-for-15 with two triples, three runs and two RBI in UCLA's first series victory at Arizona State since 2006 on the final weekend of the regular season (May 27-29), helping the Bruins clinch an outright Pac-10 Championship...went 5-for-11 (.455) with one home run, two doubles and six runs in a three-game series against San Jose State (Feb. 26-27).

2010 (summer)
Played in 20 games for the Chatham Anglers of the Cape Cod League...batted .232 with one double, five runs and four RBI...Chatham finished 20-22-2 in fifth place in the Cape Cod League's Eastern Division.

2010
Played in 64 games, making 57 starts (all in center field)...posted a team-leading .354 batting average with four home runs, 12 doubles, 31 RBI and 45 runs...earned second-team Freshman All-America honors from Baseball America...secured honorable mention All-Pac-10 acclaim...registered the highest batting average by a UCLA freshman (.354) since 1998, when Garrett Atkins hit at a school freshman record .383 clip...tied for the sixth-highest batting average in the Pac-10... and ranked eighth in on-base percentage (.442)...reached base via a hit, walk or hit-by-pitch in 53 of 64 games played...had a season-high 15-game hitting streak from April 20-May 15, during which he batted .436, going 24-for-55 with two home runs, four doubles and nine runs...recorded 23 multiple-hit games, the third-highest total on the team, and six multiple-RBI efforts...secured All-Tournament Team honors at the College World Series at the NCAA Los Angeles Regional...led the Bruins in the postseason with a .396 batting average, 19 hits, 13 runs and six doubles...in six College World Series contests, led the team with a .375 batting average, nine hits and three doubles...batted .333 in all 27 Pac-10 games (24 starts), going 31-for-93 with 16 runs...had three consecutive three-hit games in the postseason - at the NCAA Super Regionals against Cal State Fullerton in Game 3 (3-for-4, three runs, three RBI), against Florida at the College World Series (3-for-4, one run, one RBI) and versus TCU at the College World Series (3-for-3, two runs, one RBI)...had a season-high four hits in the Bruins' third game of the year, going 4-for-5 with two runs and three RBI against Cal State Northridge (Feb. 21)...went 3-for-4 with two doubles and one RBI against Stanford (April 2)...went 6-for-11 with two runs in UCLA's three-game series at Arizona (April 23-25)...went 1-for-4 in each of three games against Arizona State (April 30-May 2)...went 4-for-11 with one homer, one double and four runs scored in a three-game Pac-10 series sweep at Washington (May 7-9)...went 2-for-3 with two runs and one double in the second game of the series at Washington (May 8)...went 4-for-11 with one double and two RBI in a three-game Pac-10 series sweep of USC (May 14-16)...went 2-for-4 with two RBI and one run in a 6-2 victory over UC Santa Barbara (May 18)...went 2-for-4 with one run and one RBI in UCLA's 11-1 win over Washington State in the regular-season finale (May 30)...went 2-for-3 with one double, two RBI and two runs in the Bruins' first NCAA Regional contest, a 15-1 win over Kent State (June 4)...went 3-for-5 with one double, one run and one RBI in a 6-3 win over LSU at the NCAA Los Angeles Regional (June 5)...went 3-for-4 with one home run, three runs and three RBI in the Bruins' NCAA Super Regional-clinching win over Cal State Fullerton (June 13)...went 3-for-4 with one run and one RBI in UCLA's first-ever College World Series victory, a 11-3 decision over Florida (June 19)...went 3-for-4 with one RBI and one run in a 5-3 victory against TCU (June 21) at the College World Series...went 2-for-5 with one double in the Bruins' final game at the College World Series, a 2-1 loss to South Carolina in the championship series (June 29).

High School
Three-year varsity baseball letterwinner at Huntington Beach High School under head coach Benji Medure...selected in the 45th round of the 2009 MLB Draft by the Arizona Diamondbacks...batted .446 as a senior (2009), securing first-team All-CIF Southern Section Division II honors...also registered four home runs, one triple, eight doubles, 25 RBI and 39 runs in 31 games as a senior... belted a grand slam home run, leading Huntington Beach past Bonanza High School in Las Vegas as a senior...also belted a key two-run homer in a CIF quarterfinal playoff victory against Yucaipa...missed his entire junior season (2008) with an arm injury...elevated to the Huntington Beach varsity squad late in his sophomore season (2007)...played for the Southern California Mariners scout league team in 2007 and 2008...selected to play for the USA Mariners Scout Team in 2008.

Personal
Full name: Beau Robert Amaral...born February 11, 1991 in Long Beach, Calif...Beau is the oldest of Rich and Michelle Amaral's four children...has one sister, Jessica, and two brothers, Joseph and Daniel... father, Rich, played baseball at UCLA in 1982 and 1983 before enjoying a 10-year major league career...mother, Michelle, also attended UCLA...undeclared major.

Career Highs
At-bats - 6 vs. Oral Roberts (3/19/10)
Runs - 3 (twice), last vs. San Jose State (2/27/11, Game 2)
Hits - 4 vs. Cal State Northridge (2/21/10)
RBI - 6 vs. Arizona (4/17/11)
Doubles - 2 (3 times), last vs. Cal State Bakersfield (5/14/11)
Home Runs - 1 (six times), last vs. Arizona (4/17/11)
Stolen Bases - 2 (twice), last at San Diego State (3/1/11)

.327 career hitter at UCLA

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:18 PM
The Reds have drafted a complete outfield, a starting rotation and catcher, and a SS. All they need is a 2B, 3B and 1B.

OesterPoster
06-05-2012, 04:18 PM
Sadly, about the only thing I can remember about Rich Amaral is that Chris Berman had a nice nickname for him (before I started loathing Berman).

Rich protect your car with Amaral

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:21 PM
Rich was a good 4th outfielder without much power but good contact hitter

Benihana
06-05-2012, 04:21 PM
So the Reds have drafted 2/3 of the Bruins' OF?

Reminds me of when they drafted Valaika and Turner out of the same college infield. Turner actually turned (NPI) out to be somewhat of a serviceable pro.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:23 PM
Hudson Randall from Florida to Tigers, good finesse pitcher type for the Tigers.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:25 PM
Only 4 pitchers so far. Icehole is having a fit

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:27 PM
Hobie Miller to Phillies. Love that name "Hobie"

Benihana
06-05-2012, 04:27 PM
Only 4 pitchers so far. Icehole is having a fit

Would love to take a flyer on a guy like Hunter Virant or Taylore Cherry if they are still there in the 8th round. Very little risk at this point.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:28 PM
Virant is still on the board??!!

Benihana
06-05-2012, 04:28 PM
Virant is still on the board??!!

I believe so. I'd say he's 99.7% going to UCLA at this point, but you never know...

Could be a candidate to go top 5 in a couple years.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:30 PM
Wow - yes, he and Trey Williams are obviously non-signable in the club's eyes at this point or they'd have been nabbed. Wonder if the college guys and Travioso can be signed inexpensively enough to make enough room to convince one of them?

Benihana
06-05-2012, 04:31 PM
Wow - yes, he and Trey Williams are obviously non-signable in the club's eyes at this point or they'd have been nabbed. Wonder if the college guys and Travioso can be signed inexpensively enough to make enough room to convince one of them?

That's what I'm thinking. They say Rahier shouldn't break the bank either, as he is eager to play professionally.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:33 PM
As long as they're under 5% over they don;t lose a pick either just a small $ penalty on the overage

Benihana
06-05-2012, 04:40 PM
Can you imagine a rookie league rotation of

Stephenson
Travieso
Virant
Garrett
Guillon

Three lefties at the end. WOW

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:41 PM
Kinda rooting for the local boy Taylore Cherry though. And that 6-9 260 frame intrigues me though those big guys usually have trouble getting mechanics together

Benihana
06-05-2012, 04:42 PM
Kinda rooting for the local boy Taylore Cherry though. And that 6-9 260 frame intrigues me though those big guys usually have trouble getting mechanics together

Shades of Andrew Brackman- A monstrous local kid who has trouble harnessing his stuff.

Reds are on the clock...

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:42 PM
Can you imagine a rookie league rotation of

Stephenson
Travieso
Virant
Garrett
Guillon

Three lefties at the end. WOW

That would be a helluva rotation - at least in projectability

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:43 PM
UCincy pitcher Zach Isler to Chisox

Benihana
06-05-2012, 04:43 PM
That would be a helluva rotation - at least in projectability

It would even rival our AA rotation, which is pretty incredible.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 04:43 PM
UC Bearcat Isler went one pick before the Reds.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 04:45 PM
Reds draft Arizona 3B Seth that Jonathan Mayo has never heard of- ha!!

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:45 PM
Seth Mejias Brean, 3B, Arizona, junior

Arizona 2011

Started 58 games at third base ... Turned in a sensational second half of the season both defensively and at the plate ... Committed only two errors over final 30 games, including stretch of 24 straight errorless games ... Hit .424 over final 19 games, second-best clip on the team during that stretch. Saw average rise from .265 all the way to its final .313 clip. Contributed 12 RBI, 10 runs scored and six sacrifice bunts during that span ... Finished season with an 11-game hitting streak ... Honorable mention Pac-10 All-Academic selection ... Named to the College Station Regional All-Tournament Team ... Went 7-for-17 with at least one base hit in all five games at College Station Regional (6/3-7). Scored three runs and collected a pair of RBI in tournament ... Tallied four hits, including a triple, two runs scored and two RBI in three game series against Washington to close regular season (5/27-29) ... Went 4-for-8 in three-game set at Stanford (5/20-22) ... Two hits, two RBI, a run scored and two sacrifices in three-game set at Washington State (5/14-16) ... Collected five base hits, including an extra base hit in each contest, three RBI and four runs scored in three games against Alcorn State (5/6-8) ... Went 3-for-8 with two RBI, two walks and a run scored in three contests at USC (4/29-5/1) ... Wrist injury limited him to 3-for-36 stretch and two missed starts from 4/2-29 ... Hitless in three trips to the plate in mid-week tilt against Arizona State (4/26) ... Hitless in five at-bats over three games - two starts - at Oregon (4/21-23) ... Collected two hits and a run scored in series-opening victory over UCLA, but hitless next days (4/15-17) ... Combined 1-for-9 in three games against California (4/8-10) ... Did not play in mid-week game against Arizona State (4/5) ... Two hits, a run scored and an RBI in series-opening win against Oregon State, but hitless next two games (4/1-3) ... Tallied two hits, two runs and three RBI in pair of mid-week games against New Mexico (3/29-30) ... Went 4-for-10 with a run scored and three RBI in series at Arizona State (3/25-27) ... Collected two hits and an RBI in three game set against San Francisco (3/19-21) ... Two hits, including a double, two walks and a run scored in pair of mid-week games at Wichita State (3/15-16) ... Rapped out nine base hits, including four in each of last two contests in three-game set against Northern Colorado (3/11-13) to go with four runs scored ... Two hits, two runs, two RBI in two games at UNLV (3/8-9) ... Registered two hits, including a triple, with two runs scored and two RBI in three-game series against Utah Valley (3/4-6) ... Tallied a base hit and three runs scored in two mid-week games against Rice (3/1-2) ... Combined to hit 4-for-11 with two runs and an RBI in series at Long Beach State (2/25-27) ... Went 3-for-12 with a run scored in season-opening series against North Dakota State (2/18-20).

You can see where he must have risen in their estimation - a bit of helium at the tail end of the year

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:48 PM
Well - there's the 3B, now all we need is a 1B and 2B for a complete team.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 04:48 PM
Nats take our old friend Stephen Perez. Glad we didn't give him big money out of HS in hindsight.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:49 PM
Nats take our old friend Stephen Perez. Glad we didn't give him big money out of HS in hindsight.

Yeah, college didn't do him any favors

redsof72
06-05-2012, 04:52 PM
Seth, welcome to Dayton. Third base is waiting for you.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 04:52 PM
Seth looks like a slick glove at third. The question will be can he hit? Kinda like a 3rd base version of Zach Cozart

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 05:02 PM
4 pitchers in 10 picks. You can tell they think the position players in the farm are thin, either that or they think the pitchers available in this draft are underwhelming.

dougdirt
06-05-2012, 05:03 PM
Interesting pick with Majias-Brean.... apparently is an incredibly athlete and puts on shows in batting practice with his power. Strange that given his BP shows, he hit all of 2 home runs in three years of college.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 05:05 PM
Interesting pick with Majias-Brean.... apparently is an incredibly athlete and puts on shows in batting practice with his power. Strange that given his BP shows, he hit all of 2 home runs in three years of college.

LOL. Thanks for the name correction. I slaughtered another name.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 05:06 PM
LJ Mazilli to the Twins

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 05:06 PM
fairly poor year hurt his draft posiition

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 05:10 PM
Here's an excerpt that tells you what Doug is referring to about Brean being a superb athlete:
Seth Mejias-Brean's stellar junior season has inevitably led to comparisons - but not to other baseball players.

To hear the Arizona Wildcats third baseman's teammates tell it, Mejias-Brean is a cross between Paul Bunyan and Chuck Norris, with a little Roy Hobbs mixed in.

Hand the UA's starting third baseman a football, and he'll throw it 60 or 70 yards.

"They call him Tebow," coach Andy Lopez said.

Give Mejias-Brean a basketball, and he'll show off a 360-degree slam dunk.

"He's just a freak," outfielder Robert Refsnyder said.

But Mejias-Brean is at his best with a bat in his hands. His batting practice sessions are legendary, complete with towering home runs and crushed line drives that send teammates dodging.

At 6 feet 2 inches and 210 pounds, the Cienega High graduate fills out a uniform better than anybody on the team. Pro scouts love his projectability, whether it's at third base, in the outfield or at catcher - a position he's never played before.

"I mean, look at his body," shortstop Alex Mejia said. "You can see him playing in the big leagues, like, next year.

"I've never seen a player like him. When he hits it, and the ball's flying out, it's hit so hard. ... Really, it's almost like the thing is yelling."

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/ua/articles/2012/05/30/20120530arizona-wildcats-baseball-seth-mejias-brean-spark.html#ixzz1wxIfKvb2

VottoFan54
06-05-2012, 05:18 PM
Reds are on the clock

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 05:19 PM
Daniel Pigott UFlorida OF

VottoFan54
06-05-2012, 05:19 PM
Reds select OF Daniel Pigott from Florida.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 05:24 PM
Pigott is a .331 hitter who will take a walk, had 5 homers this year, can steal a base, hit .389 in the post season. 6-2 205, plays WR for the Gators football team. Has a 4.5 40.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 05:25 PM
1 more pick then the Reds are off the budget and on to the $100,000 cap per player rounds

corkedbat
06-05-2012, 05:26 PM
Here's an excerpt that tells you what Doug is referring to about Brean being a superb athlete:
Seth Mejias-Brean's stellar junior season has inevitably led to comparisons - but not to other baseball players.

To hear the Arizona Wildcats third baseman's teammates tell it, Mejias-Brean is a cross between Paul Bunyan and Chuck Norris, with a little Roy Hobbs mixed in.

Hand the UA's starting third baseman a football, and he'll throw it 60 or 70 yards.

"They call him Tebow," coach Andy Lopez said.

Give Mejias-Brean a basketball, and he'll show off a 360-degree slam dunk.

"He's just a freak," outfielder Robert Refsnyder said.

But Mejias-Brean is at his best with a bat in his hands. His batting practice sessions are legendary, complete with towering home runs and crushed line drives that send teammates dodging.

At 6 feet 2 inches and 210 pounds, the Cienega High graduate fills out a uniform better than anybody on the team. Pro scouts love his projectability, whether it's at third base, in the outfield or at catcher - a position he's never played before.

"I mean, look at his body," shortstop Alex Mejia said. "You can see him playing in the big leagues, like, next year.

"I've never seen a player like him. When he hits it, and the ball's flying out, it's hit so hard. ... Really, it's almost like the thing is yelling."

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/ua/articles/2012/05/30/20120530arizona-wildcats-baseball-seth-mejias-brean-spark.html#ixzz1wxIfKvb2

Sounds like the kind of freak athlete who, if his baseball skills catchup with his athletic abilities, may be knocking on the Double-A door in two years or if they don't work out, he could be playing Arena League football.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 05:29 PM
Anytime a guy has athletic talents like Mejia-Brean you have to like the upside. They obviously went more for his ceiling than the stats.

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2012, 05:57 PM
Reds pick Jeremy Kivel, RHP, Spring HS, TX, in the 10th round.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 05:59 PM
Jeremy Kivel, Texas High school rhp

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2012, 05:59 PM
Mayo said Kivel's a 3rd or 4th round talent, but had a knee injury and that's why he slid.

Could be a GREAT pickup in the 10th round!

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 06:00 PM
Pretty good draft so far. Tons of upside, high ceilings, a couple utility picks but even some upside in those guys if everything panned out

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 06:07 PM
Kivel own words:
hello my name is jeremy kivel i am a RHP from spring, tx the highschool of current MLB pitcher josh beckett. I have always wanted to play college and pro-baseball and follow in his footsteps, it started at a young age when family and friends discovered that i have a GOD given arm and people still see that today. Also i have a GOD given work ethic and i always have to be the best at what i do no matter what. Im the first and last on the field at my highschool and if you ever get to see me on the mound i always have the fire in my eyes that this next pitch is going right past your bat, im not the biggest guy on the field at 6"1 but i have biggest heart. I play everygame as if it was my last. No matter what school i go to im going to want to bring you a championship and make history that is the type of player and person i am.

He is listed as 6-2 200 fastball at 94, has curve and iffy change, power arm. Wants to play pro ball but has a commitment to U. of Houston

dougdirt
06-05-2012, 06:09 PM
Kivel has been clocked at 96 MPH and was sitting 93-94 in a recent showcase before blowing out his knee (for the second time in his life). Big sign if it happens.

JaxRed
06-05-2012, 06:12 PM
Sounds like he's going to school.

dougdirt
06-05-2012, 06:21 PM
Sounds like he's going to school.

Link?

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2012, 06:24 PM
Link?

I think he's inferring that based on RedlegJake's post.

A blown knee twice sounds like he could be a concern moving forward if he were to sign. But if the money isn't crazy, it would be worth the gamble.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 06:29 PM
Sounds like Kivel could be this year's Drew Cisco or Amir Garrett, although it is curious that he didn't show up in BA's Top 500. Those kinds of guys usually do.

Doc. Scott
06-05-2012, 06:36 PM
Benihana's boy Virant went to Houston with the first pick of round 11.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 06:37 PM
Reds pick Nolan Becker lhp Yale U

Benihana
06-05-2012, 06:39 PM
Benihana's boy Virant went to Houston with the first pick of round 11.

I guess that was somewhat predictable.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 06:40 PM
Trey Williams goes to St L

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 06:40 PM
Hope Williams picks college now

Doc. Scott
06-05-2012, 06:41 PM
I guess that was somewhat predictable.

Why was that?

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 06:42 PM
So far every pick but Kivel looks signable and Kivel in the tenth leaves them some negotiating room at least

Benihana
06-05-2012, 06:43 PM
Why was that?

This is the first round that teams don't forfeit their allotted amount, so logically it is the round to draft all the guys who fell for signability reasons. Virant was the best of the bunch, so it's fitting he would be the first pick of the round. And Trey Williams just went to the Cardinals.

Hopefully neither signs.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 06:44 PM
Yeah but its also the rounds where you have nothing really to offer - $100,000 is it.

Benihana
06-05-2012, 06:47 PM
Yeah but its also the rounds where you have nothing really to offer - $100,000 is it.

Agreed. There is very little chance anything happens, but might as well take a flyer in the 1% chance it does.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 06:48 PM
Brent Peterson SS Bakersfield College - another signable pick

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 06:52 PM
Peterson hit .374 OBP .448 SP .497 19 errors in 37 games at SS for Bakersfield

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 06:54 PM
Peterson was a 2010 pick in the 17th round by the Reds out of Liberty HS in California

fearofpopvol1
06-05-2012, 06:57 PM
Peterson was a 2010 pick in the 17th round by the Reds out of Liberty HS in California

They must like him a lot then.

dougdirt
06-05-2012, 07:01 PM
They must like him a lot then.

Went to Army, then transferred to BAkersfield.

Should sign. On Bakersfield.com his father said if they fell after the 10th round, to call them before drafting him to make sure he would sign.

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 07:04 PM
Reds can go over $100,000 on any pick past the 10th round but it counts against the top 10 round pick money.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 07:04 PM
Matt Boyd, LHP from Oregon State

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 07:06 PM
Reds can go over $100,000 on any pick past the 10th round but it counts against the top 10 round pick money.

which is going to be really hard to do because if you break that ceiling by 5% you lose a first round pick. Most teams will treat it as a hard stop most liekly.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 07:07 PM
Matt Boyd Jr. Stats:
Matt Boyd LHP Jr. 4-0, 3.47 ERA, 3 Sv, 13 BB, 30 SO, 36.1 IP

Gallen5862
06-05-2012, 07:08 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=22010251&topic_id=29113154

Matt Boyds scouting video.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 07:10 PM
Boyd could return for his senior year and try for a better slot next year. Depends how bad he wants to go pro.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 07:11 PM
2 more rounds today

Superdude
06-05-2012, 07:14 PM
Kivel own words:
hello my name is jeremy kivel i am a RHP from spring, tx the highschool of current MLB pitcher josh beckett. I have always wanted to play college and pro-baseball and follow in his footsteps, it started at a young age when family and friends discovered that i have a GOD given arm and people still see that today. Also i have a GOD given work ethic and i always have to be the best at what i do no matter what. Im the first and last on the field at my highschool and if you ever get to see me on the mound i always have the fire in my eyes that this next pitch is going right past your bat, im not the biggest guy on the field at 6"1 but i have biggest heart. I play everygame as if it was my last. No matter what school i go to im going to want to bring you a championship and make history that is the type of player and person i am.

Is he sending out resumes?

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 07:16 PM
Lucas Moran rhp from Grayson County College round 14

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 07:22 PM
Lucas Moran 6-2 200

(Frosh at Houston - transferred to Grayson for Sophomore year)
FRESHMAN (2011)
Made his collegiate debut on opening day against UT-Arlington (Feb. 18)...Pitched an inning of relief, allowing one run on two hits with two strikeouts against UTSA (March 1)...Pitched one scoreless innning of relief against Texas A&M and had three strikeouts (March 6)...Got his collegiate win, pitching 3.1 scoreless innings, allowing three hits with three strikeouts aganist Texas Southern (March 9)...Pitched 1.1 innings, allowing seven runs on five hits with one strikeout against Texas State (March 12)... Turned in an inning of relief wtih a strikeout against McNeese State (March 16)...Pitched 2.2 scoreless innings of relief against TCU, allowing one hit with three strikeouts (March 25)... Turned in an inning of scoreless relief against Rice (March 29)...Recorded one innings of relief against UAB (April 9)...C-USA Championship: Pitched 5.0 innings in his first career start against Tulane, allowing one run on three hits with four strikeouts.

LUTHERAN HIGH SCHOOL NORTH
Coached by Dan Morgan... Earned a First Team All-District selection... First Team All-State honoree... First Team All Greater Houston... Three-time team MVP... Drafted b y the Milwaukee Brewers in the 45th round... National Honor Society.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 07:23 PM
concentrating on college arms now

dougdirt
06-05-2012, 07:24 PM
Moran has been clocked as high as 94 MPH. Can't find anything else on him right now.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 07:24 PM
Moran has been clocked as high as 94 MPH. Can't find anything else on him right now.

neither could I - just a bunch of stuff from HS, game scores etc

kg112686
06-05-2012, 07:27 PM
Dan (Houston, Texas): What round do you have Luke Moran and Shane Henderson from Grayson County College going in?
Jim Callis: Moran in the 8th-12th round as a righthander with a solid frame and an 89-92 mph fastball. Scouts have cooled on Henderson. Maybe he factors into the 16th-20th round if he's an easy sign.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 07:27 PM
Bennett Klimesh, RHP from Trinity U.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 07:31 PM
last 6 picks have been 1 HS and 4 college pitchers and Peterson, the SS.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 07:33 PM
That's the end of day two.

dougdirt
06-05-2012, 07:39 PM
Ben Klemish throws 91-96 MPH, big strikeout numbers at a smaller school. Not the best walk rate either though. Senior, so assuming he wants to keep playing baseball, he will sign.

corkedbat
06-05-2012, 07:41 PM
That's the end of day two.

Corner bats and power arms. Just what the system needed.

RedlegJake
06-05-2012, 07:51 PM
17 picks. 9 pitchers 6 RHP/3LHP 2 HS pitchers 7 college pitchers, 1 catcher, 4 OFers, 3-3B/SS. Overall 4 high schoolers, 13 collegiate players.

Tomorrow the last 25 rounds.

Blitz Dorsey
06-05-2012, 07:54 PM
17 picks. 9 pitchers 6 RHP/3LHP 2 HS pitchers 7 college pitchers, 1 catcher, 4 OFers, 3-3B/SS. Overall 4 high schoolers, 13 collegiate players.

Tomorrow the last 25 rounds.

5 high schoolers, 12 college players, right? Three of our first four picks were prepsters.

VottoFan54
06-05-2012, 07:57 PM
5 high schoolers, 12 college players, right? Three of our first four picks were prepsters.

I think you are right. Travieso, Winker, Rahier, Felt, and Kivel are all high school guys.

camisadelgolf
06-06-2012, 01:16 PM
Chris Buckley talks about day two of the draft: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=22050151&topic_id=29113154&c_id=mlb&tcid=vpp_copy_22050151&v=3
Two awesome quotes:

. . . you definitely have to take more pitchers just to get some up there because unfortunately some are going to get hurt, [and] some of them won't be quite as good as we think.

We say that [we're satisfied] every year, and then you get Albert Pujols in the 13th round or Matt Kemp in the 16th round, or Chris Heisey in the 17th round . . .

texasdave
06-07-2012, 08:27 AM
Do not charge the mound when Jeremy Kivel is pitching.


jeremy kivel flying armbar at martial arts mania 2010 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvf5k-oW1So)