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Who Dey Time
06-08-2012, 04:01 PM
Interleague play returns...

Cozart SS
Heisey CF
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Ludwick LF
Frazier 3B
Hanigan C
Latos P

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 05:33 PM
Beware thy Miguel!!! He's getting warm.

CF Quentin Kelly is quite the centerfielder. (Austin Jackson hurt?)

Hopefully, Jacoby and Heisey get the swing back....starting tonight. Would love to see a liner up the middle and a bunt single....and another run saving top play in CF (I love those plays)

I'll guess a high scoring game. Votto, Phillips and Frazier all HR and Reds win 9-7

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 05:54 PM
Cabrera and Fielder have only 70 strikeouts combined.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 05:55 PM
For those angry Phillips didn't bunt last night.....since 2008 with a runner on 2nd and no outs.....if they ARE NOT bunted over they score 57.4% of the time...if they ARE bunted over they score 57.8% of the time.

wvreds
06-08-2012, 06:49 PM
Frazier has just been scratched and Cairo is in. I wonder whats up?


Per Fay and Sheldon

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 07:23 PM
Frazier has just been scratched and Cairo is in. I wonder whats up?


Per Fay and Sheldon

That sucks, automatic out for cairo every time

redsfan1995
06-08-2012, 07:30 PM
Frazier has just been scratched and Cairo is in. I wonder whats up?


Per Fay and Sheldon

Frazier has back spasms.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 08:14 PM
Heisey is just owning CF....not a good jump, but you cannot see anything out there in that sun field.....considering the sun, that may be his best one of the three spectacular plays.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 08:15 PM
Frazier has back spasms.

The way Heisey is swinging and missing and diving all over the OF....he may have some back spasms soon.

GoReds19
06-08-2012, 08:15 PM
Heisey is just owning CF....not a good jump, but you cannot see anything out there in that sun field.....considering the sun, that may be his best one of the three spectacular plays.

I don't know.... The play yesterday was pretty good. Lol

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 08:20 PM
Please bunt Heisey

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 08:21 PM
Nope....tried bunt hit but took funny bounce and trickled foul....flew out deep to LCF....Cozart to 2nd

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 08:24 PM
I don't know.... The play yesterday was pretty good. Lol

All 3 are Web Gems....last night's was see go get and full extension....to save a run.....today's didn't save a run, but as a former outfielder that sun is just the worst....all 3 had complete extension and all 3 I guarantee hurt a good bit.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 08:24 PM
Phillips with the RBI bunt....there you go!

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 08:25 PM
Two infield hits, an error by the pitcher and this inning could be big.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 08:25 PM
That was a well placed home run swing.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 08:27 PM
I'm glad they are doing away with that third to first move.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 08:28 PM
Well, the Tigers scouted Luddy

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 08:28 PM
Only got 1

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 08:29 PM
Bruce looks lost on breaking balls.

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 08:30 PM
With our offense we should be happy we go 1 run out of that

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 08:31 PM
Agreed

will5979
06-08-2012, 08:32 PM
Ballgame, Latos is going to pitch a CG shutout tonight!

Stray
06-08-2012, 08:33 PM
Bruce is not really making a good case to hit cleanup...wish he would. It's those sac fly situations that he seems to constantly screw up.

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AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 08:34 PM
Game plan- Soft to Cabrera, fast and outside to Fielder

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 08:37 PM
DatDudeDP roles up a Double Play. Latos looks good early.

GoReds19
06-08-2012, 08:38 PM
DatDudeDP roles up a Double Play. Latos looks good early.

Looks like hes got his good FB tonight.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 08:40 PM
Cairo got the ball out of the infield.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 08:41 PM
Not to beat a dead horse but the bench is awful.

The Rage
06-08-2012, 08:41 PM
Hopefully the warm weather heats up Latos and Bailey's cannons.

Big Red Hoss
06-08-2012, 08:42 PM
Hannigan smoked that one. Another nice play by the 2nd baseman

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 08:43 PM
Nice play by Santiago

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 08:43 PM
Seen enough of the second baseman. Try hitting the ball some where else.

Red Raindog
06-08-2012, 08:48 PM
Bruce was pretty slow to that pop that fell

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 08:48 PM
Bruce no dive???

Looked borderline catchable.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 08:49 PM
Nice job Cozart

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 08:50 PM
Looked like Bruce was shaded.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 08:51 PM
Nice play buy Cairo.

The Rage
06-08-2012, 08:52 PM
Bruce had little shot at that ball

40YrRedsFan
06-08-2012, 08:53 PM
Pirates 3-0 over KC, 3rd inning

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 08:54 PM
Cozy 2-2

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 08:55 PM
Cozart is ripping....does he ever go oppo?

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 08:55 PM
Must be nice to have to play the Tigers for three while the Pirates are playing the Royals.

The Rage
06-08-2012, 08:57 PM
Must be nice to have to play the Tigers for three while the Pirates are playing the Royals.

I don't know, the Tigers are pretty bad themselves this year.

Hey, Heisey with a hit

Stray
06-08-2012, 08:57 PM
Votto!

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Ironman92
06-08-2012, 08:57 PM
Bruce had little shot at that ball

Replayed it 4 times...he slowed up a bit the last two steps....maybe he didn't have his step in comfortably to dive and go for it....but after numerous replays.....I think he just misses or just catches it with the all out dive.....doesn't matter nothing came out of it.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 08:57 PM
Homerun :thumbup:

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 08:58 PM
to say Votto is amazing would be an understatement

The Rage
06-08-2012, 08:58 PM
Votto with a 1.121 OPS right now.......

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 08:59 PM
I don't know, the Tigers are pretty bad themselves this year.

Hey, Heisey with a hit

True but not Royals bad

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 08:59 PM
Heisey finally and Votto hits a 3 run HR.

In about two weeks we're going to be discussing whether or not he'll hit .400

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 08:59 PM
Votto with a 1.121 OPS right now.......

Seems like what his slugging% should be.

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 08:59 PM
True but not Royals bad

right now the Royals are better than the Tigers

Red Raindog
06-08-2012, 09:00 PM
Votto reminds of this old baseball program I used to own but sold a few years ago.

It was a World Series program that described the players for the visiting team -- I noted that it said their exciting new right fielder looked like he was going to be pretty good.

The player's name? Ty Cobb

The program? 1908 Cubs vs Tigers.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:01 PM
right now the Royals are better than the Tigers

Your right close in the standings.
Tigers 26-31
Royals 24-31

40YrRedsFan
06-08-2012, 09:01 PM
Johan Santana getting pounded, Yankees, 5-0 over the Mets, 3rd inning

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:02 PM
Johan Santana getting pounded, Yankees, 5-0 over the Mets, 3rd inning

Extra Day off is hurting him. ;)

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:03 PM
Ludwick coming on lately.

Kcbuckeye22
06-08-2012, 09:04 PM
It's so dangerous to pitch to Votto with runners on. I don't understand why they do it.

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 09:05 PM
Ludwick coming on lately.

should be the starting LF when Stubbs is healthy

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:05 PM
Royals 2
Pirates 3
Going to the Bottom of 3

Who Dey Time
06-08-2012, 09:06 PM
You know how you create a player on a video game, give him ridiculous attributes which makes him impossible to get out? That's Votto in real life right now. Best hitter in the game.

40YrRedsFan
06-08-2012, 09:07 PM
End of 3; Votto 4, Tigers 0

The Rage
06-08-2012, 09:11 PM
Just think how bad the Reds offense would be without Votto....

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:11 PM
Never fails with Latos reds score and he gives up a home run.

40YrRedsFan
06-08-2012, 09:12 PM
Latos has given up 13 HR's....that is a lot.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 09:13 PM
2nd time through....now the Tigers can see.

More solo HR

40YrRedsFan
06-08-2012, 09:18 PM
Pirates now 4-2 over KC, end of 3

40YrRedsFan
06-08-2012, 09:24 PM
Indians 2-0 over Cards, top 1

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:29 PM
is marty B drunk? He's said reds 4 tigers 0 4 times....its 4-1!

LeDoux
06-08-2012, 09:29 PM
I am trying to listen to this on the Radio. The CincinnatiUSA lady is over the top.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:30 PM
I am trying to listen to this on the Radio. The CincinnatiUSA lady is over the top.

I agree!! she is crazy.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:30 PM
It's funny how we were scoreboard watching the Cards for so long. Now we have to watch to see how the Pirates are doing.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:31 PM
Double!!

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:31 PM
this guy can hit.

LeDoux
06-08-2012, 09:32 PM
this guy can hit.

One of the best ever.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:32 PM
That my friends is a hitter. He needs to be that hitting coach.

Who Dey Time
06-08-2012, 09:32 PM
It's just getting stupid now.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:33 PM
Wow Phillips could you not have done that last night.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:33 PM
this woman on the radio has lost her cotton pickin mind.

LeDoux
06-08-2012, 09:33 PM
I am glad Votto is out of that .300 BA, .900 OPS slump.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:34 PM
Ha Ha tickle my fancy. Marty is in love.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:35 PM
doubleplay ludwick...

Who Dey Time
06-08-2012, 09:35 PM
Wow. Great turn.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:35 PM
this woman is crazy...good lord shutup jesus.

LeDoux
06-08-2012, 09:36 PM
She sounds like a kindergarten teacher on amphetamines.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:36 PM
Thank God this inning is over. No more of the Cincinnati woman.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:38 PM
double...

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:39 PM
Get the BP reading.

webbbj
06-08-2012, 09:40 PM
thats why heisey shouldnt be playng CF over stubbs. stubbs gets to that ball easily.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:40 PM
2 on nobody out.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:40 PM
thats a terrible call !!!

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:41 PM
Latos is getting hit hard this inning.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:42 PM
bases loaded.

Red Raindog
06-08-2012, 09:43 PM
We've left too many runs on the table --- may bite us

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:44 PM
Keep the ball down.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:44 PM
my god.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:44 PM
tigers gonna blow this open.

Stray
06-08-2012, 09:45 PM
Lotta ground balls finding holes

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 09:46 PM
god Latos is soooooo bad, and the tigers suck and he still gets hammered

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:46 PM
Scared to throw a strike.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:47 PM
I don't even see why we traded for latos.

The Rage
06-08-2012, 09:47 PM
Latos sucks. Bad start after bad start. People whine about Bailey and Leake, but they are better than Latos by a mile.

Huge bust for Walt. Isn't the arm we needed.

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 09:47 PM
Latos sucks. Bad start after bad start. People whine about Bailey and Leake, but they are better than Latos by a mile.

Huge bust for Walt. Isn't the arm we needed.

yep

TheBigLebowski
06-08-2012, 09:47 PM
I think it's high time we all came to terms with the fact that the Latos trade was an unmitigated disaster. The guy is garbage.

Stray
06-08-2012, 09:48 PM
They have 2 consecutive pretty weak ground balls that found a hole. He's not getting balls launched off of him or anything.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:48 PM
WOW nice play.

Who Dey Time
06-08-2012, 09:48 PM
god Latos is soooooo bad, and the tigers suck and he still gets hammered

They hit two ground balls through holes. Try to overcome your Reds hate and be factual.

LeDoux
06-08-2012, 09:48 PM
They have 2 consecutive pretty weak ground balls that found a hole. He's not getting balls launched off of him or anything.

+1

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:49 PM
Stubbs may be faster but he does not dive after balls.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:49 PM
2 outs.

The Rage
06-08-2012, 09:49 PM
Bad hitting by the Tigers. He is missing up all the time. Fielder should know better.

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 09:50 PM
as bad as latos is the offense should have more than 4 runs tonight

TheBigLebowski
06-08-2012, 09:50 PM
They hit two ground balls through holes. Try to overcome your Reds hate and be factual.

Overcome your desire to defend a bad trade and look at his performance objectively. Volquez is out-pitching him, albeit in Petco which, ironically enough, is probably what made Latos look so appealing in the first place.

Plenty of people around here trumpeted the fact that Latos has a propensity to stink in the first month of the season....but we're 1/3 of the way through, month 3, and he's still just a very average pitcher. Meanwhile, we're left with a depleted farm system and his contract as opposed to Edinson's. Disaster.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:51 PM
as bad as latos is the offense should have more than 4 runs tonight

agreed

LeDoux
06-08-2012, 09:51 PM
I would hate to think what this board would be like if we had the Cards' rotation.

The Rage
06-08-2012, 09:52 PM
Overcome your desire to defend a bad trade and look at his performance objectively. Volquez is out-pitching him, albeit in Petco which, ironically enough, is probably what made Latos look so appealing in the first place.

Plenty of people around here trumpeted the fact that Latos has a propensity to stink in the first month of the season....but we're 1/3 of the way through, month 3, and he's still just a very average pitcher. Meanwhile, we're left with a depleted farm system and his contract as opposed to Edinson's. Disaster.

Yes, Latos was brought in here to be the number 2 guy. He is not filling that role. It is up to Bailey now, hopefully with the summer weather, he goes on a tear.

Who Dey Time
06-08-2012, 09:53 PM
Overcome your desire to defend a bad trade and look at his performance objectively. Volquez is out-pitching him, albeit in Petco which, ironically enough, is probably what made Latos look so appealing in the first place.

Plenty of people around here trumpeted the fact that Latos has a propensity to stink in the first month of the season....but we're 1/3 of the way through, month 3, and he's still just a very average pitcher. Meanwhile, we're left with a depleted farm system and his contract as opposed to Edinson's. Disaster.

This has zero to do with the trade which, by the way, is way too early to judge. Maker, as usual, is claiming things that are just flat out false. Quit defending it even if it meshes with your premature thought about the trade.

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 09:53 PM
I would hate to think what this board would be like if we had the Cards' rotation.

considering they have carpenter hurt, if he were healthy i would take theirs

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:53 PM
loaded yet again....

TheBigLebowski
06-08-2012, 09:54 PM
This has zero to do with the trade which, by the way, is way too early to judge. Maker, as usual, is claiming this that are just flat out false. Quit defending it even if it meshes with your premature thought about the trade.

No idea what you just tried to say.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:54 PM
nice play.

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 09:55 PM
time to bring in lecure or simon

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 09:55 PM
Finally!! Baker better not bring him out for another inning. However, the bull pen is down one person in Chapman.

Stray
06-08-2012, 09:55 PM
Overcome your desire to defend a bad trade and look at his performance objectively. Volquez is out-pitching him, albeit in Petco which, ironically enough, is probably what made Latos look so appealing in the first place.

Plenty of people around here trumpeted the fact that Latos has a propensity to stink in the first month of the season....but we're 1/3 of the way through, month 3, and he's still just a very average pitcher. Meanwhile, we're left with a depleted farm system and his contract as opposed to Edinson's. Disaster.

It's not about defending anything. Sometimes ground balls find holes, that's what's happening tonight. I wasn't commenting on his season or anything.

And I think people are looking at the trade the wrong way. We aren't even to the ASB in his first season here, lets take a look at it down the road and see how he does. I think he's gonna end up being good for us.

Oh and in that trade we sent away a pitcher we didn't want, a bat with nowhere to play that was blocked by Votto, a catcher blocked by Mesoraco, and a minor league reliever. Would you let a minor league reliever hold up a trade?

Who Dey Time
06-08-2012, 09:56 PM
No idea what you just tried to say.

My iPhone auto correct apologizes. Read it again.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:58 PM
cairo is a waste of space.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 09:59 PM
single by hanny!!

LeDoux
06-08-2012, 10:00 PM
Hanigan is the man. I don't know why people think he would struggle further up the lineup.

TheBigLebowski
06-08-2012, 10:01 PM
It's not about defending anything. Sometimes ground balls find holes, that's what's happening tonight. I wasn't commenting on his season or anything.

And I think people are looking at the trade the wrong way. We aren't even to the ASB in his first season here, lets take a look at it down the road and see how he does. I think he's gonna end up being good for us.

Oh and in that trade we sent away a pitcher we didn't want, a bat with nowhere to play that was blocked by Votto, a catcher blocked by Mesoraco, and a minor league reliever. Would you let a minor league reliever hold up a trade?

Because 2 of the 4 players we're "blocked" does not take away from their value. Both Grandal and Alonso were tremendously valuable trading chips. One might argue that Grandal should have been blocking Mes. They were valuable pieces. Boxberger projects as really good closer or, at worst, a useful reliever. Volquez is that siren song that temps GM after GM - that live arm that just needs the proper coaching. It's what coaxed Krivsky to ship the current AL MVP to Texas for his services.

Latos is a good pitcher, but he was not worth what we had to give up for him. Just because we had depth in Grandal's & Alonso's positions does not mean we should have given them up so cheaply. If that's the case, then this team needs to stop taking the BPA and draft based on organizational depth.

LeDoux
06-08-2012, 10:03 PM
Latos can't get the bunt down

Who Dey Time
06-08-2012, 10:03 PM
Because 2 of the 4 players we're "blocked" does not take away from their value. Both Grandal and Alonso were tremendously valuable trading chips. One might argue that Grandal should have been blocking Mes. They were valuable pieces. Boxberger projects as really good closer or, at worst, a useful reliever. Volquez is that siren song that temps GM after GM - that live arm that just needs the proper coaching. It's what coaxed Krivsky to ship the current AL MVP to Texas for his services.

Latos is a good pitcher, but he was not worth what we had to give up for him. Just because we had depth in Grandal's & Alonso's positions does not mean we should have given them up so cheaply. If that's the case, then this team needs to stop taking the BPA and draft based on organizational depth.

This post might be relevant in 2-3 years. It is not relevant 2 months into the first season especially considering that Latos is still a very young pitcher.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:03 PM
Struggles on the mound. Struggles at the Plate. What gives Latos?

Red Raindog
06-08-2012, 10:04 PM
Latos can't get the bunt down

Fundamentals on this team have been lacking for a few years --- painful to watch sometimes

Red Raindog
06-08-2012, 10:05 PM
This post might be relevant in 2-3 years. It is not relevant 2 months into the first season especially considering that Latos is still a very young pitcher.

24 is too young to dump but we do need him to step up.

Stray
06-08-2012, 10:06 PM
Because 2 of the 4 players we're "blocked" does not take away from their value. Both Grandal and Alonso were tremendously valuable trading chips. One might argue that Grandal should have been blocking Mes. They were valuable pieces. Boxberger projects as really good closer or, at worst, a useful reliever. Volquez is that siren song that temps GM after GM - that live arm that just needs the proper coaching. It's what coaxed Krivsky to ship the current AL MVP to Texas for his services.

Latos is a good pitcher, but he was not worth what we had to give up for him. Just because we had depth in Grandal's & Alonso's positions does not mean we should have given them up so cheaply. If that's the case, then this team needs to stop taking the BPA and draft based on organizational depth.

I ignore Boxberger in the deal because a minor league reliever is just a minor league reliever, a lot of those don't pan out. I guess I can see where you're coming from but I liked the trade when we made it...I don't think enough time has passed to decide if it was a good one or not. We needed to upgrade our rotation so we made a move to get a good young pitcher who we could control for a while, there's not many of those around.

LeDoux
06-08-2012, 10:06 PM
Fundamentals on this team have been lacking for a few years --- painful to watch sometimes

I agree. Every one fails at the bunt sometimes- but this team is full of bad bunters.

TheBigLebowski
06-08-2012, 10:07 PM
This post might be relevant in 2-3 years. It is not relevant 2 months into the first season especially considering that Latos is still a very young pitcher.

No, it's relevant now. The trade was controversial even when we thought we were getting the 2011 Latos with his muscular petco-inflated numbers. We're in the 3rd month of the season and he's showing himself to be a little better than league-average.

GoReds19
06-08-2012, 10:09 PM
I'd imagine Latos has a short lease here.... Maybe?

TheBigLebowski
06-08-2012, 10:10 PM
I ignore Boxberger in the deal because a minor league reliever is just a minor league reliever, a lot of those don't pan out. I guess I can see where you're coming from but I liked the trade when we made it...I don't think enough time has passed to decide if it was a good one or not. We needed to upgrade our rotation so we made a move to get a good young pitcher who we could control for a while, there's not many of those around.

Agree on the issue of controlling a good young pitcher - I just don't know that we scouted him well enough.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:10 PM
I'd imagine Latos has a short lease here.... Maybe?

Should have been giving high fives after he got out of the last inning.

Stray
06-08-2012, 10:11 PM
Agree on the issue of controlling a good young pitcher - I just don't know that we scouted him well enough.

Fair enough...I guess time will tell on both. Whether Latos was the guy we should have went after, and whether Mes was the catcher we should have kept.

Who Dey Time
06-08-2012, 10:12 PM
No, it's relevant now. The trade was controversial even when we thought we were getting the 2011 Latos with his muscular petco-inflated numbers. We're in the 3rd month of the season and he's showing himself to be a little better than league-average.

No knowledgeable individual would judge a trade after 60 games for any player let alone a young talent like Latos. You could end up being right. I think you will end up eating your words. But 2 months does not determine that.

And you yourself has said he is above average. You would think that as he matures he will only get better. Just like the Bailey and Cueto types.

GoReds19
06-08-2012, 10:14 PM
He struck that guy out twice.

Stray
06-08-2012, 10:14 PM
Votto playing the line? He usually eats that ball up

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:14 PM
thats why heisey shouldnt be playng CF over stubbs. stubbs gets to that ball easily.

Link?

NeilHamburger
06-08-2012, 10:15 PM
God, Latos is just so f'n hittable. Straight 92 mlb fastball, and nothing else.

Who said this bum was an ace?

GoReds19
06-08-2012, 10:16 PM
I dont think Hanigan likes Latos shaking him off.

NeilHamburger
06-08-2012, 10:16 PM
Get someone up, Latos is about give it up.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 10:17 PM
latos is losing it.

NeilHamburger
06-08-2012, 10:17 PM
He never had it.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:17 PM
I said get him out. The man is giving you a out.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 10:18 PM
my goodness...

NeilHamburger
06-08-2012, 10:18 PM
LOL, of course

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:18 PM
Get in front of it and stop it.

Stray
06-08-2012, 10:19 PM
Terrible throw...terrible job by Cozart not keeping it in the infield. Geez

Stray
06-08-2012, 10:19 PM
Probably the worst throw I've seen Hanigan make all year.

The Rage
06-08-2012, 10:20 PM
If I am Bailey, I am jacking up 95-98mph fastballs no matter what. This rotation looks emasculated and somebody needs to provide a shot of manhood. It won't get any better after Arroyo(even if he pitches well).

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:20 PM
That will bring the infield in and they will hit a blooper.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:21 PM
Darnit....

Stray
06-08-2012, 10:21 PM
That will bring the infield in and they will hit a blooper.

Sounds about right

NeilHamburger
06-08-2012, 10:21 PM
100% chance this run scores

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:22 PM
Probably the worst throw I've seen Hanigan make all year.

Yeah, he's been so good.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:23 PM
100% chance this run scores

65.4%

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 10:23 PM
2 down!

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:23 PM
Huge

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:23 PM
65.4%

37.1%

The Rage
06-08-2012, 10:23 PM
Not impressed by the Tigers hitting at all. They look like the Reds with better talent.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:24 PM
Can not walk him.

NeilHamburger
06-08-2012, 10:25 PM
100%

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:25 PM
Crap

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 10:25 PM
and we start from stratch.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:25 PM
100% chance this run scores

Yep....very good.

Stray
06-08-2012, 10:25 PM
Did we move this game to Detroit?

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:25 PM
God be careful

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 10:26 PM
shew.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:26 PM
Got him easily

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:26 PM
Bull Pen numbers are vastly rising.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:27 PM
Did we move this game to Detroit?

I don't get it? Fans noise for Tigers?

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:27 PM
Bull Pen numbers are vastly rising.

Had to

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 10:27 PM
tigers arent good with RISP either but still much better than the Reds

RedsFanInBama
06-08-2012, 10:27 PM
Never figured 4 runs were going to win this one.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:28 PM
Should be a big inning.

Stray
06-08-2012, 10:29 PM
I don't get it? Fans noise for Tigers?

Yea there was a lot of cheering when they tied it up

NeilHamburger
06-08-2012, 10:30 PM
God, I think I hate Latos more then Volquez. I hate his personality, I hate his approach, I hate the trade, I his "ace stuff". Probably my least favorite red.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:30 PM
Latos pitches like Todd Coffey

RedsFanInBama
06-08-2012, 10:31 PM
Well, that was a big out for Detroit. We're done until Votto's spot comes up again in the 9th.

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 10:31 PM
God, I think I hate Latos more then Volquez. I hate his personality, I hate his approach, I hate the trade, I his "ace stuff". Probably my least favorite red.

agreed, i hate our offense minus Votto just about as much

Stray
06-08-2012, 10:31 PM
Would be a nice time for BP to crush one

NeilHamburger
06-08-2012, 10:31 PM
I'd trade Latos for Todd Coffey, and then release Coffey.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:32 PM
Worst 4 hitter in the game.

mrherd05
06-08-2012, 10:32 PM
Worst 4 hitter in the game.


Worst Reds fan in the country.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:33 PM
On the ball that got past Cozart (that Cozart didn't do his job of blocking).....where was Phillips? He was about 20 feet from where he was supposed to be. If either Cozart or Phillips does their job at least there is a play at the plate to see if he scores.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:33 PM
Worst Reds fan in the country.

How do you figure?

Who Dey Time
06-08-2012, 10:33 PM
Worst Reds fan in the country.

Maker and NeilHam are worse.

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 10:33 PM
if we lose a series to the Tigers then this season is in serious jeopardy of going into a freefall

Mutaman
06-08-2012, 10:34 PM
God, I think I hate Latos more then Volquez. I hate his personality, I hate his approach, I hate the trade, I his "ace stuff". Probably my least favorite red.

He has been a big disappointment so far. I get the feeling he doesn't have a lot of heart or a lot of brains. Hope I'm wrong.

NeilHamburger
06-08-2012, 10:35 PM
In 3 of his last 4 starts he has been given 4, 6, and 4 run leads and couldn't hold any of them.

Who Dey Time
06-08-2012, 10:35 PM
He has been a big disappointment so far. I get the feeling he doesn't have a lot of heart or a lot of brains. Hope I'm wrong.

He definitely could use a dose of mental toughness. But that comes with experience.

RedsFanInBama
06-08-2012, 10:35 PM
On the ball that got past Cozart (that Cozart didn't do his job of blocking).....where was Phillips? He was about 20 feet from where he was supposed to be. If either Cozart or Phillips does their job at least there is a play at the plate to see if he scores.

How do you know where Phillips was supposed to be? My guess is with a left-handed batter up, they had Phillips staying home on the pull side and Cozart covering second on a stolen base. You don't have both middle infielders bail out on their position on movement. Leaves way too many holes for a batted ball.

Krawhitham
06-08-2012, 10:37 PM
With Latos' horrible 6th why did he start the 7th?

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:37 PM
I guess they are using Marshall for the closing role tonight.

The Rage
06-08-2012, 10:37 PM
With Latos' horrible 6th why did he start the 7th?

Dusty was trying to make a man of him........obviously.

Who Dey Time
06-08-2012, 10:38 PM
With Latos' horrible 6th why did he start the 7th?

Two reasons....his 6th wasn't horrible and you're limited in the pen tonight.

NeilHamburger
06-08-2012, 10:39 PM
On the bright side you won't have to pay Latos much in arbitration.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:39 PM
Big Out. Not that he has killed us thus far.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:39 PM
How do you know where Phillips was supposed to be? My guess is with a left-handed batter up, they had Phillips staying home on the pull side and Cozart covering second on a stolen base.

He was slightly more towards first than usual due to the lefty hitting.....look where Phillips was when the ball caromed off of Cozart's glove. Phillips has to of course field his position but once the ball is caught by the catcher....he sure hadn't moved very much in about 3 seconds to back that play up......or am I wrong and the second baseman does not back up that play?

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:40 PM
Not good

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:40 PM
Bull Crap!!

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 10:40 PM
I'm turning this **** off....the REDS are pissing me off. have been for the past 2 days.

GoReds19
06-08-2012, 10:40 PM
Ball game....

Mutaman
06-08-2012, 10:40 PM
What's our record when stubbs doesn't play?

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 10:40 PM
another loss...

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:40 PM
Pirates just won.

NeilHamburger
06-08-2012, 10:40 PM
Oh well, 1 game up on the Pirates with Mcdonald going for the Pirates tomorrow and Verlander against the Reds.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:41 PM
Oh well, 1 game up on the Pirates with Mcdonald going for the Pirates tomorrow and Verlander against the Reds.

6 outs left....we're scoring more

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 10:41 PM
I mean do we not understand how to hold a ****ing lead???

LexRedsFan
06-08-2012, 10:41 PM
Ugh.

GoReds19
06-08-2012, 10:41 PM
What's our record when stubbs doesn't play?

Hes only not played like 3 or 4 games.

RedsFanInBama
06-08-2012, 10:41 PM
He was slightly more towards first than usual due to the lefty hitting.....look where Phillips was when the ball caromed off of Cozart's glove. Phillips has to of course field his position but once the ball is caught by the catcher....he sure hadn't moved very much in about 3 seconds to back that play up......or am I wrong and the second baseman does not back up that play?

How, if you're shaded towards first, are you supposed to back up second base on a steal attempt? Pop-to-pop is probably about 2 seconds for Hanigan throwing toward second base. You add in the reaction time to realize that contact hasn't been made, and you cannot expect a guy to get into backup position.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:42 PM
What's our record when stubbs doesn't play?

What's our record when Cairo does?

Krawhitham
06-08-2012, 10:42 PM
Two reasons....his 6th wasn't horrible and you're limited in the pen tonight.

3 hits
1 walk
1 hit batter
18 ERA for the inning

just what is your definition of horrible?

Who Dey Time
06-08-2012, 10:43 PM
3 hits
1 walk
1 hit batter
18 ERA for the inning

just what is your definition of horrible?

2 of those hits were seeing eye singles. He was not getting hit hard that inning.

Mutaman
06-08-2012, 10:44 PM
Hes only not played like 3 or 4 games.


Right. Seems like more. reds are 2-1 going into tonight.

Stray
06-08-2012, 10:45 PM
Another one of those games where we should have scored like 8 runs and it has come back to bite us. Gotta hope for a late inning rally.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:45 PM
Hes only not played like 3 or 4 games.

I realize all that....but where Phillips was after the carom was a strange place to be for the 2nd baseman. I'd bet my paycheck he didn't bust it for the potential 2+ seconds and definitely didn't take the right angle.

Mutaman
06-08-2012, 10:45 PM
I'm curious about the tendency of some many to scoreboard watch in early June. Its all about the Reds. If they play well, they will do well. Unfortunatly, they ain't playing too well.

40YrRedsFan
06-08-2012, 10:45 PM
I mean do we not understand how to hold a ****ing lead???

The bigger problem is we don't know how to add runs on. We get a few early and then stop scoring.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 10:46 PM
Another one of those games where we should have scored like 8 runs and it has come back to bite us. Gotta hope for a late inning rally.

this team doesn't have it in them.

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 10:46 PM
arredondo needs to be replaced when Masset gets back, but that is the least of the worries with this team

GoReds19
06-08-2012, 10:46 PM
Right. Seems like more. reds are 2-1 going into tonight.

Seems like the games he don't start he usually comes
In late for defense.

RedsFanInBama
06-08-2012, 10:46 PM
What's our record when Cairo does?

9-13 coming into tonight.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:46 PM
I realize all that....but where Phillips was after the carom was a strange place to be for the 2nd baseman. I'd bet my paycheck he didn't bust it for the potential 2+ seconds and definitely didn't take the right angle.

Lol....wrong one

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 10:46 PM
single to left.

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 10:46 PM
Another one of those games where we should have scored like 8 runs and it has come back to bite us. Gotta hope for a late inning rally.

and the Tigers have awful starting pitching, this just cements that this offense is the worst in baseball

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:46 PM
Hey a base hit.

NeilHamburger
06-08-2012, 10:46 PM
Hey, Cairo got a hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:47 PM
Cairo en fuego

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 10:47 PM
give him a extension!!

GoReds19
06-08-2012, 10:47 PM
Wow.... Cairo got a hit, quick take a picture.

RedsFanInBama
06-08-2012, 10:47 PM
I realize all that....but where Phillips was after the carom was a strange place to be for the 2nd baseman. I'd bet my paycheck he didn't bust it for the potential 2+ seconds and definitely didn't take the right angle.

Bottom line - Cozart knows he doesn't have backup on that play. Catch it or block it. That's it.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 10:47 PM
nice bunt.

Mutaman
06-08-2012, 10:47 PM
The bigger problem is we don't know how to add runs on. We get a few early and then stop scoring.


No its not the biggest problm. . I hate this offence but pitching is the name of the game and the pitching has been really mediocre lately. 4 runs should be enough even in this rinky dink ball park.

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:47 PM
Textbook by Hanigan.

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:47 PM
That's how you bunt.

rolenmvp
06-08-2012, 10:48 PM
time for frazier to deliver...

Ironman92
06-08-2012, 10:48 PM
give him a extension!!

Longer arms?

The Rage
06-08-2012, 10:48 PM
This team is slumping pretty bad right now. Not making the key pitch, the key defensive play or hit.

Somebody needs to step up and be a stopper.

Maker_84
06-08-2012, 10:48 PM
hanigan only player on the team that can bunt

AnythingCincy
06-08-2012, 10:48 PM
Frazier has back spasm but can pitch hit. Funny if you ask me.