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Ironman92
06-10-2012, 04:47 PM
Cozart 6
Heisey 8
Votto 3
Phillips 4
Bruce 9
Ludwick 7
Frazier 5
Mesoraco 2
Bailey 1

Red Raindog
06-10-2012, 05:21 PM
Cards lost -- Bucs won

Ironman92
06-10-2012, 06:02 PM
A big start for Bailey IMO

texasdave
06-10-2012, 06:03 PM
Bounceback game for Homer.

brm7675
06-10-2012, 06:20 PM
A big start for Bailey IMO



Why?

Ironman92
06-10-2012, 06:42 PM
Why?

He's been pretty solid and a touch better than I expected thus far.....he wasn't very good last time out and two poor starts in a row is just not what he needs IMO

Right now he's 4-4 with a 4.39 era, this is his 6th season and he's 26 years old. Right now he's looking at a 12-12 season with about 200 innings.....not too bad.....he's never won more than 9 games or pitched over 130 innings. He doesn't need a seconds poor start in a row....he needs 6 1/3 and 3 ER and continue on towards his 12-14 wins and 190-210 innings....just what the Reds need from him.

Ironman92
06-10-2012, 06:44 PM
Cozart 6
Heisey 8
Votto 3
Phillips 4
Bruce 9
Ludwick 7
Frazier 5
Mesoraco 2
Bailey 1

8 players in this lineup under a .330 OB%, hard to imagine. Be nice for the under .300 guys to get up around .320 and the .300-.328 guys up around .340.....along with Joey and his .712 OB%

Red Raindog
06-10-2012, 07:24 PM
8 players in this lineup under a .330 OB%, hard to imagine. Be nice for the under .300 guys to get up around .320 and the .300-.328 guys up around .340.....along with Joey and his .712 OB%

Yes -- the Reds are actually a pretty weak bunch of hitters (a few obvious one excepted) -- even more glaring when the ballpark they play half of their games in is noted.

I think a large part of it comes from so many hitters being in places in the order that they are not suited to be.

Phillips should not be batting fourth & Cozart hitting first is asking a lot of a rookie.

I would have Hannigan bat 2nd for a trial -- he handles the bat decently -- battles on every pitch -- and has a better OBP than most -- but that still doesn't find a 4 hole hitter or a lead-off guy.

Luddy has done a few good things for us but I still just shake my head at his signing when Heisey was already on the roster. It just felt like dumpster diving to me - if paying someone his salary of 2 million can be called that.

I think pretty much all of us here knew that the 4 hole was an issue before the season started - and I didn't see a real attempt to fix that --- I just wonder what another million could have bought.

Having said all of this -- first place is the best place to be!

Red Raindog
06-10-2012, 08:12 PM
Bailey works his way thru inning number 1 -- let's hope for 7 more like it

Stray
06-10-2012, 08:14 PM
Nice start for Homer

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 08:16 PM
Hate facing unknown pitchers like this. We battle the Verlanders of the world like crazy, but we tend to make guys like this look all-world.

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 08:19 PM
easy inning for smyly. Cozart swung at some bad pitches

TSJ55
06-10-2012, 08:19 PM
Looking forward to hearing what Tito has to say about the Redlegs tonight. I'm a big fan of his and an unbiased view from someone who watches as many games as he does will be cool to hear.

LexRedsFan
06-10-2012, 08:20 PM
Hate facing unknown pitchers like this. We battle the Verlanders of the world like crazy, but we tend to make guys like this look all-world.

It IS a lefty though. Remember what we did to Minor for ATL a few weeks ago.

rolenmvp
06-10-2012, 08:29 PM
berry almost made a unbelievable play.

Red Raindog
06-10-2012, 08:31 PM
just saw Bruce is .179 with RISP -- 3rd lowest

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:31 PM
Good walk.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:33 PM
My god Hernandez.

Red Raindog
06-10-2012, 08:33 PM
My god Hernandez.

a joke

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:34 PM
I'd spit in his face right now if I could.








(no, not really)

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 08:34 PM
Ludwick got screwed big time

Stray
06-10-2012, 08:34 PM
Can't get tossed with Stubbs hurt. Just gotta get over it.

Stray
06-10-2012, 08:35 PM
Love it

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:35 PM
Come on, Frazier.

PumpFak3First
06-10-2012, 08:36 PM
Does Dusty get credit for that? Or only blame when we do bad things?

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:36 PM
Wow, that was close.

PumpFak3First
06-10-2012, 08:36 PM
Bink

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:37 PM
Todd Frazier - clutch.

Stray
06-10-2012, 08:37 PM
Frazier continues to deliver

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:37 PM
Mes needs to heat up.

rolenmvp
06-10-2012, 08:38 PM
angel hernadez is a joke tonight....my god.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:38 PM
Hernandez is screwing us.

LexRedsFan
06-10-2012, 08:38 PM
Wtf

LexRedsFan
06-10-2012, 08:39 PM
Hernandez freaking sucks.

TSJ55
06-10-2012, 08:39 PM
That is MLB's version of a "flop"

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:39 PM
That's a joke. That call is never made unless it's blatant, and it wasn't right there.

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 08:39 PM
Hernandez should be fired

Stray
06-10-2012, 08:40 PM
Dusty is not a happy man.

rolenmvp
06-10-2012, 08:41 PM
worse umping I've ever seen...

Who Dey Time
06-10-2012, 08:42 PM
Dusty's f-bomb caught a lot of that microphone.

joshua
06-10-2012, 08:42 PM
Dusty just dropped an F bomb on TV.

Stray
06-10-2012, 08:42 PM
Coulda been a big inning but Angel Hernandez only gave us one out to work with.

Ohayou
06-10-2012, 08:43 PM
That was a legit call. Watch the replay - he was clearly outside the batters box. Calm down, people.

rolenmvp
06-10-2012, 08:43 PM
That was a legit call. Watch the replay - he was clearly outside the batters box. Calm down, people.

yeah but the ludwick crap was not...

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 08:43 PM
Can Homer avoid his obligatory letdown inning after being handed a lead? He's pitched well for the most part this season, but always seems to have a tough inning immediately after being given some run support. Hope tonight is different.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:46 PM
That was a legit call. Watch the replay - he was clearly outside the batters box. Calm down, people.

Yeah, it was legit. Sort of like traveling in the NBA or 3 seconds in basketball in general. It's almost never called and typically only when blatant. Angel is one of those umpires who comes to the ballpark to put on his own show.

TSJ55
06-10-2012, 08:48 PM
There seems to be more umpires with attitude this year than I can remember in the past.

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 08:48 PM
You know, if they ever did some sort of radical realignment in MLB, the Reds and Tigers would seem like perfect natural division rivals.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:48 PM
Nice inning, Homer.

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 08:49 PM
Nicely done, Homer.

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 08:49 PM
Homer pitching nicely so far

LexRedsFan
06-10-2012, 08:51 PM
You know, if they ever did some sort of radical realignment in MLB, the Reds and Tigers would seem like perfect natural division rivals.

I'm sure a lot would agree, but I'd rather see the Tigers than the Tribe.

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 08:52 PM
I'm sure a lot would agree, but I'd rather see the Tigers than the Tribe.

This year maybe.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:52 PM
ZACK!!!

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 08:53 PM
He lunges at every pitch. We will take it :beerme:

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:53 PM
HI-C!!!

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 08:54 PM
Bunt Votto;)

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:56 PM
Damn.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:57 PM
Up to Bruce.

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 08:58 PM
Get him out of the 4 spot.

LexRedsFan
06-10-2012, 08:58 PM
This year maybe.

Actually a typo, I meant to say disagree instead of agree. I just give zero craps about the Indians. I actually enjoy seeing the Tigers. Perhaps just due to the "newness" this year.

NeilHamburger
06-10-2012, 08:58 PM
Why Phillips why. Please don't swing at the first pitch all the time.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:58 PM
Get him out of the 4 spot.

When Rolen gets back.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:59 PM
Three bad ABs by your 3-4-5 guys.

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 08:59 PM
When Rolen gets back.

Hope not.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 08:59 PM
Hope not.

Well, prepare yourself now. Because that's what's going to happen.

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 09:00 PM
Well, prepare yourself now. Because that's what's going to happen.

I know.
:(

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 09:00 PM
Did anybody listen to wlw pre-game.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 09:01 PM
I know.
:(

By the way, who do you want batting 4th?

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 09:02 PM
needed more runs there

Red Raindog
06-10-2012, 09:02 PM
By the way, who do you want batting 4th?

Frazier deserves a shot at it

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 09:03 PM
By the way, who do you want batting 4th?

Hanigan

TSJ55
06-10-2012, 09:04 PM
Wow! That looks like it hurts

TSJ55
06-10-2012, 09:05 PM
Dude can freaking rake

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 09:06 PM
Dude can freaking rake

He can also complain.

TSJ55
06-10-2012, 09:07 PM
That is a big time play from behind the dish

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 09:07 PM
haha, cabrera gonna have to lose some weight to steal bases

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 09:08 PM
haha, cabrera gonna have to lose some weight to steal bases

That was a close play.

joshua
06-10-2012, 09:08 PM
That was a gift. Cabrera looked safe to me.

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 09:09 PM
That was a gift. Cabrera looked safe to me.

makeup call for Ludwick then

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 09:09 PM
That was a gift. Cabrera looked safe to me.

We were due one.

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 09:10 PM
damn, this all started with giving fielder a free pass

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 09:10 PM
Thank you Prince for refusing to better yourself athletically.

TSJ55
06-10-2012, 09:10 PM
Mez should get an RBI for the play at 2nd

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 09:11 PM
Come on, Homer. Bare down.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 09:12 PM
Pitiful effort. Get in front of the ball.

TSJ55
06-10-2012, 09:12 PM
Really?

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 09:12 PM
Phillips comes through again

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 09:13 PM
That was crappy

Stray
06-10-2012, 09:21 PM
Ludwick must have kicked Angel Hernadez's dog or something.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 09:21 PM
I wouldn't care about these calls on Ludwick if Homer had gotten the same call last inning when he had a 2-strike count on Young.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 09:21 PM
Holy Cow. That's Wily-Mo territory. Kid's got a little pop I guess.

Stray
06-10-2012, 09:21 PM
Mes!

bigredmechanism
06-10-2012, 09:22 PM
Crushed that one. Gives you a bit of hope for his future when you see shots like that.

TSJ55
06-10-2012, 09:29 PM
Homer knew it immedietly

Stray
06-10-2012, 09:29 PM
Not even a bad pitch, that's a fly out just about everywhere.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 09:30 PM
Homer trying to melt down.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 09:31 PM
That one scared me. Both the contact and Heisey chasing it.

Stray
06-10-2012, 09:32 PM
We're gonna need a couple more before I feel comfortable.

TSJ55
06-10-2012, 09:33 PM
He looked a bit shaky there, but Heisy has been fantastic out there since Stubbs has been out

George Foster
06-10-2012, 09:33 PM
they said that Homer's ERA in GAB is over 5 for his career...wow...thats high.

George Foster
06-10-2012, 09:35 PM
We're gonna need a couple more before I feel comfortable.

Champman should be well rested..:thumbup:

Falcon7
06-10-2012, 09:36 PM
Willy Mays Heisey... What the heck, trying to be like BP...?

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 09:36 PM
He looked a bit shaky there, but Heisy has been fantastic out there since Stubbs has been out

I don't think he's close to the defensive player Stubbs is. He's done a solid job, though.

NeilHamburger
06-10-2012, 09:36 PM
Can I pay ESPN not to use that stupid behind home plate view on every other pitch?

TSJ55
06-10-2012, 09:37 PM
I don't think he's close to the defensive player Stubbs is. He's done a solid job, though.

Certainly not. Some of the plays he's made look hard Stubbs would have in his back pocket. But he hasn't cost the team anything since being out there.

Stray
06-10-2012, 09:37 PM
I can't remember the last time Votto went 3 at bats without a hit.

George Foster
06-10-2012, 09:37 PM
votto having a hard night...coming back down to earth...can't hit .500 for ever.

George Foster
06-10-2012, 09:40 PM
how hot are the Pirates...wow..

TSJ55
06-10-2012, 09:43 PM
12 yrs old hitting bombs in an MLB park? That's pretty sick

George Foster
06-10-2012, 09:43 PM
Prince and Votto have not said a word to each other. normally there is a little chatter...they have not said a word to each other..

George Foster
06-10-2012, 09:45 PM
12 yrs old hitting bombs in an MLB park? That's pretty sick

The outfield for little league is 210-220. He hit it close to 400 or more...WOW

TSJ55
06-10-2012, 09:47 PM
The outfield for little league is 210-220. He hit it close to 400 or more...WOW
Remember the one his old man hit on the roof of Old Tiger Stadium? The apple doesn't fall far...

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 09:47 PM
Bailey really struggling last few innings

Stray
06-10-2012, 09:53 PM
I'm pretty sure Ludwick's strike zone is from his shoelaces to his neck, and as wide as a bus. If it's anywhere in reach he should be swinging.

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 09:56 PM
time to blow these tigers out of the ballpark

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 09:57 PM
well damn

Stray
06-10-2012, 09:57 PM
We're leaving runs out there again tonight. Come on Frazier.

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:00 PM
Rolen, please pull a muscle in your rehab!

Falcon7
06-10-2012, 10:00 PM
UNREAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stray
06-10-2012, 10:00 PM
Frazier!

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 10:00 PM
todd frazier is an absolute beast

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:01 PM
Frazier should be cleanup.

malcontent
06-10-2012, 10:05 PM
Can we please just stop the completely inane idea of the post-DL Rolen cutting into Frazier's starts at 3B?

If Jocketty allows Baker to do it, it should simply be pitchfork and torch time.

And no, Frazier is not a LF.

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 10:05 PM
Like i said before Rolen should just be a designated fielder when we have a 2-3 run lead past the 6th or 7th

Stray
06-10-2012, 10:07 PM
Frazier is still a little shaky on defense at 3rd...tho he appears to be getting better. I would be cool with him platooning 3rd with Rolen and then getting starts at LF when he's not at 3rd. You gotta keep his bat in the lineup.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:10 PM
Can we please just stop the completely inane idea of the post-DL Rolen cutting into Frazier's starts at 3B?

If Jocketty allows Baker to do it, it should simply be pitchfork and torch time.

And no, Frazier is not a LF.

You're deluding yourself.

malcontent
06-10-2012, 10:12 PM
You're deluding yourself.
How so?

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:15 PM
How so?

By allowing yourself to get into the mindset that what you don't want to happen isn't going to. We all know what is going to happen. Why fight it?

Falcon7
06-10-2012, 10:16 PM
Did they just say Chapman can out run Stubbs? I'm talking foot speed...

malcontent
06-10-2012, 10:19 PM
By allowing yourself to get into the mindset that what you don't want to happen isn't going to. We all know what is going to happen. Why fight it?
I'm assuming that a good 50-75% of Reds fans understand, to some degree, that the Reds' surge into 1st place coincided with Rolen being replaced by Frazier.

And that they can't be too cool with seeing the Ghost of Scott Rolen returning to re-claim 3B.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:19 PM
Arredondo scares the daylights out of me.

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 10:19 PM
I have no idea if Heisey could have made a play on that ball, but I'd like to see him lay out for that with two outs and Miguel F. Cabrera on deck.

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 10:19 PM
really Arredondo?

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 10:20 PM
I know they weren't looking for a walk there, but I'll take my chances with Prince Fielder vs. LHP 100x out of 100 over Arredondo versus Cabrera. Not sure why Dusty made that move at all.

Literati
06-10-2012, 10:21 PM
3 homers by rookies:D

Ironman92
06-10-2012, 10:22 PM
Certainly not. Some of the plays he's made look hard Stubbs would have in his back pocket. But he hasn't cost the team anything since being out there.

link?

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:22 PM
I don't like this match up.

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 10:23 PM
i thought he tagged him??

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:24 PM
Hernandez is blind.

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:24 PM
Well that sucked.

Stray
06-10-2012, 10:24 PM
Angel Hernandez is trying to lose this game for us.

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 10:24 PM
how many relievers we gonna use in this game? i mean really dusty?

Stray
06-10-2012, 10:25 PM
Nope he missed the tag

Mutaman
06-10-2012, 10:25 PM
You pay Marshall to get guys like Fielder out and for the second day in a row he didn't do his job.

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:25 PM
I don't blame dusty for making these moves, you have an off day tomorrow.

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 10:25 PM
That call appeared to be correct, although I'm not sure how he got it right. That call is an automatic out most of the time the ball beats the runner by that much and the tag *appears* to be made.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:26 PM
You pay Marshall to get guys like Fielder out and for the second day in a row he didn't do his job.

Yep. Overpay at that.

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 10:26 PM
Gotta finish this game off, Reds. Don't waste another fine pitching performance. :(

TSJ55
06-10-2012, 10:27 PM
link?

To what? Are you saying that he has done a bad job? Are you saying that there is a better option?

Falcon7
06-10-2012, 10:27 PM
The myth of Bruce's arm.

chuck6660
06-10-2012, 10:27 PM
Marshall gets beat by Fielder two days in a row :thumbdown:

Mutaman
06-10-2012, 10:27 PM
Its beginning to look like the only decent move Walt has made is getting Simon.

Marshall, Latos, Madson, Ludwick, Valdez :thumbdown:

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 10:27 PM
Gene Lamont looks like Humpty Dumpty over there at third.

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:27 PM
You pay Marshall to get guys like Fielder out and for the second day in a row he didn't do his job.

Ah, we didn't really give anything up for him.

Ironman92
06-10-2012, 10:28 PM
I have no idea if Heisey could have made a play on that ball, but I'd like to see him lay out for that with two outs and Miguel F. Cabrera on deck.

Are you serious? Lol That ball landed and then bounced again before it went into his glove. How can you possibly question whether or not he should dive? He's made 3? 4? Fully extended diving catches in 5 games?

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:28 PM
Thank you Logan.

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 10:28 PM
NASTY PITCH! :beerme:

bigredmechanism
06-10-2012, 10:28 PM
phew

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:28 PM
Atta boy Logan.

Ironman92
06-10-2012, 10:29 PM
Hernandez is blind.

He sucks and wants to be seen....but that was a great call.

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 10:29 PM
why doesnt simon pitch more??? he's alot better than Arredondo

Mutaman
06-10-2012, 10:30 PM
Ah, we didn't really give anything up for him.

1. We gave up a young left hander.

2. We paid him a nice contract extension.

3. We could have just as easily given up nothing for somebody who could get the job done.

wvreds
06-10-2012, 10:31 PM
Marshall has not been overly impressive so far this season

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:31 PM
1. We gave up a young left hander.

2. We paid him a nice contract extension.

3. We could have just as easily given up nothing for somebody who could get the job done.

Wood won't be significant again.

Falcon7
06-10-2012, 10:32 PM
Are you serious? Lol That ball landed and then bounced again before it went into his glove. How can you possibly question whether or not he should dive? He's made 3? 4? Fully extended diving catches in 5 games?

Don't let a dive fool you, that alone does not mean it was a good/great catch.

Ironman92
06-10-2012, 10:32 PM
To what? Are you saying that he has done a bad job? Are you saying that there is a better option?

To Stubbs making those plays easily....he may have made them all (strongly doubt it)....but don't act like he makes any of them easily.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:32 PM
He sucks and wants to be seen....but that was a great call.

I was speaking generally.

Mutaman
06-10-2012, 10:34 PM
Wood won't be significant again.

1. That's just speculation on your part.

2. So what. We still could have traded him for somebody who can get the job done.

Ironman92
06-10-2012, 10:35 PM
Don't let a dive fool you, that alone does not mean it was a good/great catch.

Jesus people.....he had absolutely zero chance at catching that ball in the air. Anyone that has a DVR....rewind it and see. Young Andruw Jones....maybe, but doubtful.

Please tell me the one that wasn't a great catch and please do not say the ball in the sun on the first play of the game that day.

TSJ55
06-10-2012, 10:36 PM
To Stubbs making those plays easily....he may have made them all (strongly doubt it)....but don't act like he makes any of them easily.

So in your opinion their defensive skills are equal or Hi-C > Stubbs?

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 10:36 PM
Are you serious? Lol That ball landed and then bounced again before it went into his glove. How can you possibly question whether or not he should dive? He's made 3? 4? Fully extended diving catches in 5 games?

That is a fair point. I'm not questioning his effort, just don't think he got a good jump on it and kind of bailed out too soon.

Ironman92
06-10-2012, 10:37 PM
I was speaking generally.

I agree strongly. I hate umpires that want to be the show.....man he knows everyone is watching. That Ludwick crap was complete baiting on Angel's part.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:39 PM
Good god Angel.

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 10:39 PM
Good lord, that 2nd strike to Votto was 5 inches off the dirt.

Falcon7
06-10-2012, 10:40 PM
Stubbs has been better this year, but he's not real good at coming in on fly balls.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:40 PM
Stubbs has been better this year, but he's not real good at coming in on fly balls.

His refusal to go head first hurts him in that regard.

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 10:41 PM
when Stubbs comes back does he go to left field or go back to centerfield?

Ironman92
06-10-2012, 10:41 PM
That is a fair point. I'm not questioning his effort, just don't think he got a good jump on it and kind of bailed out too soon.

I questioned Bruce a few games back going towards the line and he slowed up 2 steps early and the ball hit 5-10 feet closer than Heisey's.....no one went with me.

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 10:41 PM
Stubbs has been better this year, but he's not real good at coming in on fly balls.

Like him better coming in than the hard-hit ball right at him. Still has horrible footwork on those.

Ironman92
06-10-2012, 10:41 PM
when Stubbs comes back does he go to left field or go back to centerfield?

He'll be in CF the final 97/100 games.

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:43 PM
Put the damned ball over the plate, the dude hits .212.

goreds2
06-10-2012, 10:43 PM
WALK ? :(

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 10:45 PM
Put the damned ball over the plate, the dude hits .212.

agreed, idk how its hard against sucky hitters?

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:45 PM
I got a bad feeling here.

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 10:46 PM
2 innings for Cuban Missile?

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:46 PM
That's what happens when you walk guys that have no business walking.

Falcon7
06-10-2012, 10:46 PM
C'mon Hi-C gotta have those little bloops... JK

wvreds
06-10-2012, 10:47 PM
The pen tonight (excluding Chapman) = horrible

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:47 PM
Very poor showing by the bullpen for sure.

wvreds
06-10-2012, 10:47 PM
A 4 pitch walk to Ramon Santiago.....Who?

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 10:48 PM
The bullpen is vastly sucking it up.

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 10:48 PM
what the heck is wrong with this bullpen lately? Cleveland will pound them if they dont get it together!

wvreds
06-10-2012, 10:48 PM
The bullpen is vastly sucking it up.

Yes it is

Literati
06-10-2012, 10:48 PM
who's left besides simon for the ninth?

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 10:49 PM
Hoover Lecure

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:49 PM
Oh boy.

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 10:49 PM
this is bad, very, very bad

wvreds
06-10-2012, 10:49 PM
Wow this bullpen has been awful, this might be a very tough one to swallow

Falcon7
06-10-2012, 10:50 PM
Reds Superstars, not ready for PT?

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:50 PM
What the hell Aroldis? One bad outing, ok but 2 in a row?

Literati
06-10-2012, 10:50 PM
nooooooooo

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:50 PM
What the hell Aroldis? One bad outing, ok but 2 in a row?
It was one hit. Not a bad outing yet.

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 10:51 PM
Good thing tomorrow is a off day.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:51 PM
OK, now it's a bad outing.

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:52 PM
It was one hit. Not a bad outing yet.

What was that you said?

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 10:52 PM
only weakness aroldis has is his control

Falcon7
06-10-2012, 10:52 PM
JHC

Stray
06-10-2012, 10:52 PM
Uh oh

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:52 PM
What was that you said?

That one hit was not a bad outing. You want me to repeat it?

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:52 PM
We're screwed.

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:53 PM
I said I had a bad feeling, this team is nothing more than pretenders.

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 10:53 PM
This team has no fight.

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:53 PM
**** you Aroldis.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:53 PM
What a choke job. Best bullpen in the NL my ass. There goes first place.

Stray
06-10-2012, 10:53 PM
Tie game...no outs

Big big ouch.

rolenmvp
06-10-2012, 10:54 PM
WE ARE ****ing ****ing pathetic.....let the pirates take over first place...we dont ****ing deserve it.

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 10:54 PM
what a big time loss this is gonna be. Cleveland is gonna kill us

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 10:54 PM
You've got to be EFFING kidding me. The HBP and now that ball hitting chalk. Jesus...

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:54 PM
WE ARE ****ing ****ing pathetic.....let the pirates take over first place...we dont ****ing deserve it.

This times 100 and 10.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:54 PM
Can we move Aroldis back to starter now?

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 10:54 PM
Time to fire Dusty to put a fire into this team.

rolenmvp
06-10-2012, 10:56 PM
this **** has pissed me off soooo bad.....we dont deserve ****ing first place. this team is a bunch of pussies.

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:56 PM
this **** has pissed me off soooo bad.....we dont deserve ****ing first place. this team is a bunch of pussies.

:lol:Yep.

rolenmvp
06-10-2012, 10:56 PM
how in the hell do you blow a 4 run lead.

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 10:56 PM
everybody has made me out to be a fool but the Pirates are the best team in this division

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:57 PM
By the way, you throw 100. Great. But when you refuse to even show a slider every now and then, major leaguers are going to catch up.

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:57 PM
And to add to the embarrassment, Tiger fans are louder than ours.

Stray
06-10-2012, 10:57 PM
This would be a huge strikeout. Would let us walk Cabrera

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 10:57 PM
What's the ESPN crew talking about??? Ludwick stopped AND the baserunner pulled up just a few steps after rounding second.

Ironman92
06-10-2012, 10:57 PM
Like him better coming in than the hard-hit ball right at him. Still has horrible footwork on those.

The line shots right at the CF are the most difficult to judge.....Drew has improved a good bit on those. Drew gets very good jumps on balls into the gaps and he's pretty good around the wall. He is the only baseball player I've ever seen that just can't coordinate a dive and rarely a slide....I cannot understand that at all....fortunately he's probably a 4.35 40 guy and closes well.....what's maybe a little deceiving on Heisey is that (I like to time guys to first and from home to second....sorry I'm weird, but it greatly interest me as a former track coach) Heisey typically goes from home to first in about 3.85 seconds....Stubbs is about 3.70-3.75 typically....on those fly balls in the gap or coming in they usually go 60-75 feet...on those plays using those times and assuming Stubbs gets a stride better jump....it would be about 6 feet....3/5 excellent Heisey plays...he had good jumps.

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:57 PM
And to add to the embarrassment, Tiger fans are louder than ours.

Obviously during a Tigers rally they are going to be louder. Do you expect our fans to stand up and cheer a game-tying double?

rolenmvp
06-10-2012, 10:58 PM
Chapman has lost it...

DocRed
06-10-2012, 10:58 PM
Awesome use of the bullpen...that's why Dusty gets da big bucks.

Red Raindog
06-10-2012, 10:58 PM
melt down all the way around

bigredmechanism
06-10-2012, 10:58 PM
This is hurting me right now.

will5979
06-10-2012, 10:58 PM
What the hell has happened to Aroldis?

rolenmvp
06-10-2012, 10:58 PM
I don't even care if we reach first place again......

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:58 PM
Awesome use of the bullpen...that's why Dusty gets da big bucks.

No manager is going to look good when none of your bullpen brings it.

Krawhitham
06-10-2012, 10:58 PM
By the way, you throw 100. Great. But when you refuse to even show a slider every now and then, major leaguers are going to catch up.

He is not shaking off the signs, the catcher is calling for nothing but fastballs

wvreds
06-10-2012, 10:58 PM
Block me or whatever, but fu*ck this team they are pretenders, Chapman had his 15 minutes along with the rest of the pen, Dusty is terrible how we were up 6-2 and 6-3, this is awful just awful

BluegrassRedleg
06-10-2012, 10:58 PM
And to add to the embarrassment, Tiger fans are louder than ours.

People who travel to their team's road games are ALWAYS loud.

And you're not going to hear the home fans cheering their ass off when the team is in blow-it mode. What should they do??? "Wooooooooooo, we're looking like the Bad News Bears!!!! Wooooooooo." :D

PumpFak3First
06-10-2012, 10:58 PM
Some of you are the biggest bunch of baby yellow back fans

Ironman92
06-10-2012, 10:59 PM
I posted on another site after 6 innings that this game had a strange feel and was far from over....not sure about this crazy though.

George Foster
06-10-2012, 10:59 PM
Can Dusty push anymore wrong buttons?

RedsFanInBama
06-10-2012, 10:59 PM
He is not shaking off the signs, the catcher is calling for nothing but fastballs

Here's an idea. Shake.

Stray
06-10-2012, 10:59 PM
I didn't mind going to the bullpen when he did. Arredondo walked his guy...Marshall failed against a lefty, Ondrusek got one big out and started this rally. And now Chapman...

I mean...those guys are usually reliable.

AnythingCincy
06-10-2012, 10:59 PM
What the hell has happened to Aroldis?

Outside distraction

Maker_84
06-10-2012, 10:59 PM
why hasnt dusty been fired yet?

rolenmvp
06-10-2012, 10:59 PM
Some of you are the biggest bunch of baby yellow back fans

you sit and watch a team full of losers except votto and you will understand it.