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dougdirt
06-11-2012, 11:07 AM
From the start of the year through May 19th, Chapman threw his slider 15% of the time.

Since he moved to the closers role, Chapman has thrown his slider 3% of the time.

So, um, what the heck happened?

OesterPoster
06-11-2012, 11:11 AM
His "girlfriend" stole it?

OnBaseMachine
06-11-2012, 11:28 AM
This is what I feared would happen when the Reds moved Chapman to the closer role. He's gone from being a pitcher back to just a thrower now. I know I've beaten this horse in the ground, but it's a shame how the Reds are wasting his talents in the bullpen. That's what pops into my mind every time I see him enter the game. Put him in the rotation already.

RedsManRick
06-11-2012, 11:29 AM
Have fastball, will travel. Why actually pitch when you can light up the radar gun and strikeout half the batters you face. Though it will be interesting to see how he fares as guys get a few more looks at him. The fastball is pretty straight; if major league hitters know its coming and can time it, they'll hit it.

Kc61
06-11-2012, 11:30 AM
This is what I feared would happen when the Reds moved Chapman to the closer role. He's gone from being a pitcher back to just a thrower now. I know I've beaten this horse in the ground, but it's a shame how the Reds are wasting his talents in the bullpen. That's what pops into my mind every time I see him enter the game. Put him in the rotation already.

Maybe a simpler approach would be to encourage him to throw more sliders.

klw
06-11-2012, 11:30 AM
From the start of the year through May 19th, Chapman threw his slider 15% of the time.

Since he moved to the closers role, Chapman has thrown his slider 3% of the time.

So, um, what the heck happened?

Hopefully we aren't looking at a situation where the slider makes his arm uncomfortable and he ends up on the DL with "shoulder inflammation" in a couple of weeks like he did last May.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl/reds/2011-05-16-aroldis-chapman-injury_N.htm

Doug do you have the numbers for last year. He started out with 14 scoreless outings before his epic wildness. How was his slider used during those periods?

Vottomatic
06-11-2012, 11:31 AM
Maybe like me, his slider went down the toilet. But I digress. :D

Actually, I've wondered the same thing. Seems to be fastball, fastball, fastball. No wonder they're starting to hit him.

Superdude
06-11-2012, 02:17 PM
From the start of the year through May 19th, Chapman threw his slider 15% of the time.

Since he moved to the closers role, Chapman has thrown his slider 3% of the time.

So, um, what the heck happened?

Maybe now that the move back to the rotation has been officially ruled out, he's changed his style? Early in the year, he was pitching at a lower speed and mixing in a decent amount of sliders, and I would imagine that had something to do with him believing he would be starting in a few weeks.

He may think his best chance as a closer is to bomb fastballs, but I think we've seen hitters begin to catch onto that strategy the past few games. Hopefully he recognizes the need and is able to regain control of the slider soon.

dougdirt
06-11-2012, 02:24 PM
Maybe now that the move back to the rotation has been officially ruled out, he's changed his style? Early in the year, he was pitching at a lower speed and mixing in a decent amount of sliders, and I would imagine that had something to do with him believing he would be starting in a few weeks.

He may think his best chance as a closer is to bomb fastballs, but I think we've seen hitters begin to catch onto that strategy the past few games. Hopefully he recognizes the need and is able to regain control of the slider soon.

The catchers are still calling them too though. It is on them just as much as it is him.

Reds1
06-11-2012, 02:44 PM
I'm sure it's been talked about. I think it's a mistake, but hey I'm not a coach. If you only have #1 you are going to get burned. I did notice the rip down the line was a 89 MPH slider I guess. should have stuck with ol #1 :eek:

CesarGeronimo
06-11-2012, 02:49 PM
Maybe like me, his slider went down the toilet. But I digress. :D


White Castle visit?

bucksfan2
06-11-2012, 03:04 PM
The catchers are still calling them too though. It is on them just as much as it is him.

There was one game a week or so ago when a reporter asked a catcher (I believe Mesoraco) why Chapman threw all fastballs. He said something akin to "They weren't touching the fastball so I had no reason not to call it."

757690
06-11-2012, 03:11 PM
There was one game a week or so ago when a reporter asked a catcher (I believe Mesoraco) why Chapman threw all fastballs. He said something akin to "They weren't touching the fastball so I had no reason not to call it."

Dusty said the same thing. I think we will be seeing more sliders from Chapman in his next appearances.

The Voice of IH
06-11-2012, 05:53 PM
He's had so much success with blowing people away, I hope I never see it again lol. :lol: