PDA

View Full Version : YRod?



corkedbat
06-13-2012, 12:52 PM
I know the Reds dropped him back to the Billings roster after his early-season struggles at Bakersfield (39 K's in 90 ABs). I guess he's basically been in Extended Spring Training working on his approach and attitude. Anyone heard of any plans for him once the short season teams start?

Back to Bakersfield? Dayton? Or would they actually play him at Billings or Goodyear?

redsof72
06-13-2012, 01:22 PM
You will likely see him in Dayton. He might play a few games in a short-season league.

Scrap Irony
06-13-2012, 03:09 PM
The good news is that, at age 19, he has time to get his head on straight.

Spending this year at Billings/ Dayton won't put him behind anyone.

The bad news is that he's already struggled in A+, which is not a place hitters typically struggle. So whatever he does will be viewed as a mirage until at least AA, IMO.

He/ The Reds have killed his trade value for the next couple of years, IMO. (Which may not be a bad thing, btw-- he could very well take off in the second half of the season.)

corkedbat
06-20-2012, 05:32 PM
He's no longer listed on the Billings roster. Guess he's either injured or he'll turn up in Dayton in the next couple of days.

lollipopcurve
06-20-2012, 05:47 PM
I don't see how both YRod and Gelalich go to Dayton. Both Waldrop and Silva deserve to continue to play regularly there.

corkedbat
06-20-2012, 06:14 PM
I don't see how both YRod and Gelalich go to Dayton. Both Waldrop and Silva deserve to continue to play regularly there.

Three possabilities:

1. Rodriguez made some solid progress in EST and they're returuning him to Bakersfield.

2. Gelalich starts in Billings

3. They rotate Wladrop, Silva, Rodriguez and Gelalich in Dayton with one DHing when its used.

Benihana
06-20-2012, 06:17 PM
Three possabilities:

1. Rodriguez made soe solid progress in EST and they're returuning him to Bakersfield.

2. Gelalich starts in Billings

3. They rotate Wladrop, Silva, Rodriguez and Gelalich in Dayton with one DHing when its used.

I like 1 or 3. As an advanced college OF drafted in the sandwich round, Gelalich should start in Dayton.

corkedbat
06-20-2012, 06:27 PM
I like 1 or 3. As an advanced college OF drafted in the sandwich round, Gelalich should start in Dayton.

I don't see there being a lot of room in the Billings OF if they add Amaral, Pigott and Matthews also - although I think the might send Winker to Goodyear if all the college OFs sign.

redsmetz
06-20-2012, 06:30 PM
Would it be correct to say these are good problems to have?

lollipopcurve
06-20-2012, 06:44 PM
Would it be correct to say these are good problems to have?

I don't think any of these young OFs can be considered a blue chipper at this time, so it's very likely run-of-the-mill post-draft roster crunch. I think the interesting thing is what they end up doing with YRod. I just have the feeling they are at a loss for knowing what to do to help him produce anywhere close to the level his tools indicate he should be able to.

Benihana
06-21-2012, 10:49 AM
I don't think any of these young OFs can be considered a blue chipper at this time, so it's very likely run-of-the-mill post-draft roster crunch. I think the interesting thing is what they end up doing with YRod. I just have the feeling they are at a loss for knowing what to do to help him produce anywhere close to the level his tools indicate he should be able to.

I think Waldrop is very underrated.

Blitz Dorsey
06-21-2012, 10:58 AM
This guy has gone from one of the top prospects in the organization to a complete mystery in the matter of 2 years. Very strange to say the least. I'm still intrigued by him due to his age, but man it's not looking good right now. Extremely strange.

dougdirt
06-21-2012, 12:27 PM
Still has the best tools in the system.... have to wonder if keeping him in Dayton this year would have made a difference rather than a promotion to Bakersfield.

redsof72
06-21-2012, 04:00 PM
Option 3, as it stands now. Things can change quickly if there is an injury somewhere.

corkedbat
06-21-2012, 07:49 PM
Looks like we may have the answer. With Steve Selsky's promotion to Bakersfield, the Dragons are left with three OF's - Waldrop, Silva and Jefry Sierra (although I guess they could use someone like Buckley, Terry or Ewing out there in a pinch). I'm guessing Yorman (if healthy) and/or Gelalich end up there in the next couple of days.

I'm not sure exactly how minor leage transactions/assignments work, but can an organization take a guy off all rosters and just send him to someplace like Goodyear to drill on attitude, hitting and fundamentals? My guess would be know since they've been carrying YR on the Billings roster. That would lead to the next question. The Reds removed Yorman from the Billings roster last Saturday (IIRC). How long do they have to re-assign him?

redsof72
06-21-2012, 09:09 PM
Every player has to be on one of the rosters at all times with the exception of Triple-A players who are about to be called up. They can be replaced before the transaction with the big league club officially goes through.

One thing to note: The rosters you see on the team websites are not official. Even the rosters printed out and distributed in the press box by the minor league teams themselves are not the official roster. Only the big league team's player development office can make official roster changes, and their paperwork is not publicly viewable. The teams just pass along the info they get from the player development office when they get it. I have seen cases where a player shows up in a game and no one in the media office of his team was ever told to add him (so no one in the press box knows who he is), yet he was legally able to play that day because the farm director's secretary DID send the paperwork to the Minor League administrative office.

I am not sure which roster Yorman is officially on at the moment, but I would expect you will find out tomorrow.

AWA85
06-21-2012, 09:42 PM
He is officially in Dayton right now, he was picked up from the airport today.

corkedbat
06-21-2012, 11:26 PM
Good. I'm hoping the time he spent in Goodyear gave him a chance to get his head on straight and work on just work on his hitting. I'd love to see him find some success his second trip through the MidWest League and have a big 2nd half.

redsof72
06-22-2012, 05:16 PM
Rodriguez is in the Dayton lineup tonight (as is Stubbs).

lollipopcurve
06-22-2012, 05:36 PM
Rodriguez is in the Dayton lineup tonight (as is Stubbs).

This is one I will watch.