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batsfan
06-16-2012, 09:54 PM
Bats win(!) 11-5. Matt Maloney, in his return to Louisville Slugger field, was touched up for 9 runs, Corky Miller, Mike Costanzo, and Scott Rolen all hit LONG home runs off of him.

As mentioned by JaxRed, Daniel Corcino has pitched 7 no-hit innings so far for the Blue Wahoos, tune in to milb.tv to see what happens next!

mace
06-16-2012, 10:12 PM
As noted in the other thread, Corcino was lifted after eight no-hit innings, having thrown 110 pitches. He struck out 9 and walked 3. Blue Hoos lead 6-0 going into the ninth.

mace
06-16-2012, 10:17 PM
Dayton got thumped 11-2. None of the pitchers--Robles, O'Rear and Jensen--distinguished himself. Juan Silva homered. Joe Terry had three hits.

dougdirt
06-16-2012, 10:19 PM
Juan Silva is absolutely on fire.

kaldaniels
06-16-2012, 10:21 PM
If Matt Maloney gave up home runs to Mike Costanzo and 2012 Scott Rolen you can officially stick a fork in him.

batsfan
06-16-2012, 10:26 PM
If Matt Maloney gave up home runs to Mike Costanzo and 2012 Scott Rolen you can officially stick a fork in him.

Not to mention Corky Miller...


Matt has had a bad start to the year, hopefully he can turn it around.

malcontent
06-16-2012, 10:29 PM
Bats win(!) 11-5. Matt Maloney, in his return to Louisville Slugger field, was touched up for 9 runs, Corky Miller, Mike Costanzo, and Scott Rolen all hit LONG home runs off of him.
I always liked Maloney, but when you're giving it up to the likes of Miller, Costanzo and Rolen, it just might be time to pack the bags and head to grad school.

mace
06-16-2012, 10:39 PM
Wilkin De La Rosa fans the side in the ninth, around a walk, and completes Pensacola's no-hitter!

mace
06-16-2012, 10:40 PM
Corcino (8 innings) and De La Rosa struck out a dozen between them, walking four.

Vidal had his first AA home run. Gregorius was 2-4 with a 3B.

The victory raises the Blue Wahoos to .500 on the season. They've been very hot, based, of course, on a tremendous rotation aided by the addition of Cingrani.

Scrap Irony
06-17-2012, 12:15 AM
Bakersfield is down 3-1. Theo Bowe, who's hit all year (or at least since he's been moved to the California League, is 2-2 with a single, a double, and an RBI.

Hamilton is 1-1 with a single, a BB, and three SB. Ho-hum.

powersackers
06-17-2012, 12:35 AM
One of the best minor league days of the season. Minus Dayton which is beyond repair. They are quite terrible.

Scrap Irony
06-17-2012, 12:47 AM
Bakersfield now up 4-3 on Tucker Barnhart's third HR of the season. He also has a double and is hitting over .400 in his last 10 games with an OPS north of 950. The main knock on Barnhart has been his power, or lack thereof. Nice to see him start to turn on the ball.

Theo Bowe is 3-3 with three steals as well.

EDIT: McMyne gave up the lead the very next inning. He's done that a lot lately.

goreds18
06-17-2012, 01:07 AM
2 more SBs for Billy. 5 tonight and 80 on the year. Incredible..

Scrap Irony
06-17-2012, 01:08 AM
Check that: Bakersfield comes back in the bottom of the inning with a three spot and are still batting.

Hamilton now 2-3 with a BB and five stolen bases. He has 80 on the year. 65 games. For those keeping track, he's now over .325 with an obp over .410 and an OPS over .850.

nate1213
06-17-2012, 01:37 AM
Check that: Bakersfield comes back in the bottom of the inning with a three spot and are still batting.

Hamilton now 2-3 with a BB and five stolen bases. He has 80 on the year. 65 games. For those keeping track, he's now over .325 with an obp over .410 and an OPS over .850.

I would say he is ready to go to Pensacola.

OnBaseMachine
06-17-2012, 01:37 AM
80 stolen bases in 66 games. Incredible.

lollipopcurve
06-17-2012, 08:43 AM
Great to see Corcino do a little dominating. He's been good consistently, but he hasn't been dominating. To do this against a decent AA team is promising.

Silva and Barnhart quietly having very solid seasons. And what do we make of Theo Bowe? He's still only 21, I think.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-17-2012, 09:15 AM
80 stolen bases in 66 games. Incredible.

Ridiculous. Freakish.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-17-2012, 09:20 AM
With 69 more steals (I know, unfathomable) Hamilton will have 300 in his last 3 years (100 per year). Not bad, when you consider he only had 48 in 2010.

69 would also give him 252 over two years (126 per year). Wow.

redsfandan
06-17-2012, 11:44 AM
With 69 more steals (I know, unfathomable) Hamilton will have 300 in his last 3 years (100 per year). Not bad, when you consider he only had 48 in 2010.

69 would also give him 252 over two years (126 per year). Wow.

The season for Bakersfield isn't even half over (although it's close). Hamilton has 80 steals in 66 games. Well, he's still got 74 more games to go. With a little luck (knock on wood) he should be able to get 69+ more steals the rest of the year. That would break the record of 145 steals in a minor league season set by Vince Coleman in '83. Coleman reached that mark though in only 113 games. Hamilton would actually have to pick up his pace to match that.

It's pretty much a given that Hamilton will steal a ton more bases. I'll be curious to see how much longer it will take him to reach his sb total from last year (103 - maybe July 6th?) and how many steals he ends up with at the end of the season (160+ ?). But, I know that things like his defense, walk rate, k rate, obp, etc matter more.

Does anyone know where the extra base hits went? In April he had 11 extra base hits in 23 games. He's had 11 more since then but in 43 games. Was April just a fluke? I know he's not going to hit many homers but I thought he'd be able to have more than 1 double or triple every 4 games. Maybe he's stopping at 1st so he can have 2nd to steal.

OnBaseMachine
06-17-2012, 11:52 AM
Silva and Barnhart quietly having very solid seasons. And what do we make of Theo Bowe? He's still only 21, I think.

40 walks in roughly 220 PA's for Silva, and an impressive .395 OBP. If his power develops he could be a solid player.

dougdirt
06-17-2012, 12:44 PM
The season for Bakersfield isn't even half over (although it's close).


The first half is over. They are on the All-Star break as we speak.

dougdirt
06-17-2012, 12:50 PM
Does anyone know where the extra base hits went? In April he had 11 extra base hits in 23 games. He's had 11 more since then but in 43 games. Was April just a fluke? I know he's not going to hit many homers but I thought he'd be able to have more than 1 double or triple every 4 games. Maybe he's stopping at 1st so he can have 2nd to steal.

Looking at his past history, it was probably a bit of a fluke. Another thing should be that pitchers have adjusted how to pitch to him (he struggled for about 3 weeks to begin May) and when he adjusted back, it was more of a contact oriented approach so he could close up that weakness. Maybe it wasn't, just spitballing ideas. Unfortunately there isn't much coverage of that league.

mace
06-17-2012, 01:01 PM
And what do we make of Theo Bowe? He's still only 21, I think.

Now, there's a question. It's a real puzzler. The guy was hitting .186 when he left Dayton (100 PA), and is now at .386 in Bakersfield (135 PA). He's never hit like this, or close to it, in his professional life. The whole thing has a Denis Phipps feel to it; and that one hasn't worked out so well in the season after. Doug has said that Bowe is just a tick behind Hamilton in foot speed. If he has truly figured something out, it's a major development. But could he possibly turn it around so suddenly? At the least, he has succeeded in making himself a player to watch.

redsfandan
06-17-2012, 01:42 PM
The first half is over. They are on the All-Star break as we speak.

Yeah, Doug, I know. I thought it was obvious that I was just looking at games played and games left.

dougdirt
06-17-2012, 02:09 PM
Now, there's a question. It's a real puzzler. The guy was hitting .186 when he left Dayton (100 PA), and is now at .386 in Bakersfield (135 PA). He's never hit like this, or close to it, in his professional life. The whole thing has a Denis Phipps feel to it; and that one hasn't worked out so well in the season after. Doug has said that Bowe is just a tick behind Hamilton in foot speed. If he has truly figured something out, it's a major development. But could he possibly turn it around so suddenly? At the least, he has succeeded in making himself a player to watch.

Bowe in Dayton had a solid walk/strikeout rate but was carrying a .239 BABIP.
Bowe in Bakersfield has a similar walk/strikeout rate but is carrying a .500 BABIP.

Bowe is a slap hitter who is one of the fastest guys in pro baseball. One thing that has changed with Bowe in Bakersfield is that he is hitting a TON of grounders, nearly 70%. He has been in the 50-55% range in the past and was at just 44% in Dayton.

I would say that Bowe isn't as bad as he performed in Dayton, but he clearly isn't as good as he has been in Bakersfield either.

camisadelgolf
06-17-2012, 03:51 PM
What's almost equally impressive as Hamilton's stolen base totals is the fact that he hasn't broken a wrist or finger in the process.

lollipopcurve
06-17-2012, 04:27 PM
I would say that Bowe isn't as bad as he performed in Dayton, but he clearly isn't as good as he has been in Bakersfield either.

Don't go out on a limb or anything. :)

Not asking for summary judgments on Bowe. For me, the questions on him have to do with his defense and overall instincts. That he's hitting the ball on the ground more is good. If it continues, it's a nice adjustment and may indicate he can continue to improve (as will be necessary). His number v. RHP in Bakersfield are extremely good, so he may have a decent bat, and we know he can run. He's from Delaware so he hasn't played as much baseball as a lot of kids who come into pro ball from high school. Major league extra OF? Who knows... time is still on his side.

_Sir_Charles_
06-17-2012, 04:33 PM
80 stolen bases in 66 games. Incredible.

On pace for 196? That can't be right. I must've figured that wrong. Good grief.

camisadelgolf
06-17-2012, 05:21 PM
On pace for 196? That can't be right. I must've figured that wrong. Good grief.
196.36 (imagine a vinculum above the 36)

texasdave
06-17-2012, 05:34 PM
They are at the exact midpoint in the California League season. Hamilton stole 80 in the first half. So, if things play out the same, he should steal 80 in the second half. He is on pace for 160. No vinculum necessary.

camisadelgolf
06-17-2012, 05:54 PM
They are at the exact midpoint in the California League season. Hamilton stole 80 in the first half. So, if things play out the same, he should steal 80 in the second half. He is on pace for 160. No vinculum necessary.
Per 162 games played ldo :bash:

_Sir_Charles_
06-18-2012, 09:15 AM
Yep. I figured for 162 as well. Oh well. Ridiculous either way.