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AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 03:50 PM
Reds lineup:

Cozart SS
Heisey CF
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Ludwick LF
Rolen 3B
Mesoraco C
Bailey P

No Frazier

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 03:51 PM
Twins lineup:

Span CF
Revere RF
Willingham LF
Morneau 1B
Plouffe 3B
Doumit C
Dozier SS
Carroll 2B
Blackburn P

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 03:53 PM
Reds lineup:

Cozart SS
Heisey CF
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Ludwick LF
Rolen 3B
Mesoraco C
Bailey P

No Frazier

Looking long and hard I've found a bright spot -- Rolen is NOT hitting #4

malcontent
06-22-2012, 05:04 PM
Looking long and hard I've found a bright spot -- Rolen is NOT hitting #4
What is Baker thinking, dropping The Shell of Rolen to 7?

Icing goes on top of the cake!

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 05:27 PM
What is Baker thinking, dropping The Shell of Rolen to 7?

Icing goes on top of the cake!

Dusty is about to make his cake.

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 05:29 PM
Just reported over at old red guard Bray is activated and Hoover sent to Louisville.

texasdave
06-22-2012, 06:29 PM
Twins' starter Nick Blackburn is putrid. 7.48 ERA. Reds' bats should get well in a hurry in this home opener.
Calling for three bombs and eight runs. Bruce, Ludwick and Cozart. Rolen with a double.

texasdave
06-22-2012, 06:29 PM
What is Baker thinking, dropping The Shell of Rolen to 7?

Icing goes on top of the cake!

Veteran creaminess plays anywhere.

Stray
06-22-2012, 06:34 PM
It'd be cool for Mesoraco to get his bat going tonight.

Who Dey Time
06-22-2012, 06:42 PM
Would love to get a 4-2 homestand before heading west.

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 07:10 PM
Here we go. Go Redlegs

Stray
06-22-2012, 07:19 PM
Good start

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 07:20 PM
Let's get the bats started.

Who Dey Time
06-22-2012, 07:20 PM
Homer gives up a single, stolen base but no runs. Reds coming up.

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 07:21 PM
Two batters in pirates on the board 1-0

Stray
06-22-2012, 07:24 PM
Heisey!

Spider Tre
06-22-2012, 07:24 PM
HI-C!

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 07:25 PM
Great. Looking up and that ball is going to be goooooooooone.

Who Dey Time
06-22-2012, 07:25 PM
2-0 good guys on a Heisey bomb.

Stray
06-22-2012, 07:25 PM
Hard to believe that's only his 2nd, hopefully that gets his bat going

BluegrassRedleg
06-22-2012, 07:25 PM
Glad to have the lead, but that's F-7 on our upcoming West Coast swing.

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 07:26 PM
This looks good -- now don't fall flat like they've done a few times after scoring early

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 07:27 PM
DatdudeDP

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 07:28 PM
Pirates up 2-0

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 07:28 PM
not a bright play by Votto and where was the hustle by BP?

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 07:29 PM
not a bright play by Votto and where was the hustle by BP?

He slipped out of the box

Stray
06-22-2012, 07:35 PM
Ugh what a cheap hit

Who Dey Time
06-22-2012, 07:43 PM
Homer does a nice job to hold Twins to 1 after 2nd & 3rd no out start. 2-1 Reds mid 2nd.

Stray
06-22-2012, 07:43 PM
Nice bounce back.

2-1

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 07:47 PM
Rolen wasn't hitting when before he went to the DL

Stray
06-22-2012, 07:48 PM
thought Bailey had a gapper there

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 07:48 PM
Pirates up 4-0 this team isn't going away

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 07:54 PM
My god

malcontent
06-22-2012, 07:55 PM
Whenever I fantasize that Jocketty might belatedly step in and do the (obviously) right thing, I remember this:

"We still have faith in Janish. Right now, he's probably putting a lot of pressure on himself. He just needs to relax and play the type of game he's capable of playing."

Spider Tre
06-22-2012, 07:55 PM
good lord...

Who Dey Time
06-22-2012, 07:55 PM
Speed kills. 2-2.

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 07:56 PM
Not saying Mes had a chance on the 2 SB's but his throws were not on target -- as for Homer holding the runner -- well it has cost him now.

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 07:56 PM
The first throw was right at the base.

brm7675
06-22-2012, 07:57 PM
this game has "WTH" written all over it already. Not liking the vibe I am getting. Facing a last place team, a pitcher with a 7+ ERA and well...

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 07:58 PM
this game has "WTH" written all over it already. Not liking the vibe I am getting. Facing a last place team, a pitcher with a 7+ ERA and well...

I don't always agree with your post but I do on this one.

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 08:00 PM
When a player can steal a base standing up the catcher has no chance.

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 08:03 PM
The first throw was right at the base.

I would say it was too high to have any cahnce - but Homer was the real culprit.

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 08:08 PM
This is late June we still have batters swing at the first pitch.

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 08:09 PM
Homer -- slugged

Stray
06-22-2012, 08:09 PM
Welp

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 08:13 PM
Another first pitch swing crazy ****.

Stray
06-22-2012, 08:13 PM
lotta first pitch outs....

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 08:13 PM
1st pitch - Jay out

Stray
06-22-2012, 08:13 PM
I think Votto even got himself out on a first pitch too. Weird.

Stray
06-22-2012, 08:15 PM
lol what song is Rolen coming out to?

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 08:15 PM
This team needs to fire Brooke and who ever is the advance game scout.

Stray
06-22-2012, 08:16 PM
Rolen!

Spider Tre
06-22-2012, 08:16 PM
old man takes the lead!

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 08:16 PM
Wow. I will eat crow. Right know.

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 08:16 PM
Scott Rolen -- monster hitting machine!

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 08:17 PM
old man takes the lead!

Yes sir

Stray
06-22-2012, 08:17 PM
Oh man I hope that guy is alright, that looked bad.

Who Dey Time
06-22-2012, 08:18 PM
Looks to be ok. That was scary.

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 08:18 PM
scary

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 08:19 PM
He went down like a bad habit

Stray
06-22-2012, 08:19 PM
Wow he took a shot...holy crap.

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 08:20 PM
He went down like a bad habit

I would be saw the whole Milky Way

malcontent
06-22-2012, 08:20 PM
what happened?

Who Dey Time
06-22-2012, 08:21 PM
Broken bat hit the umpire on the side of head. He's going to correctly take the rest of the night off.

Stray
06-22-2012, 08:21 PM
what happened?

Mesoraco broke his bat but his swing kinda swung it around behind him, the bat flew right into the side/back of the umpire's head away from the mask and just drilled him. He staggered to the right and collapsed.

malcontent
06-22-2012, 08:22 PM
Mesoraco brook his bat but his swing kinda swung it around behind him, the bat flew right into the side/back of the umpire's head away from the mask and just drilled him. He staggered to the right and collapsed.
whoa

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 08:22 PM
This is why Baseball needs to have extra umps at games.

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 08:25 PM
Tigers have 1 hit over 5 inning.

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 08:26 PM
Pirates up 4-0 Cards up 4-0

malcontent
06-22-2012, 08:30 PM
Jay and Carpenter (Matt) both back for St. Louis.

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 08:37 PM
When is the last time a Reds pitcher has had a perfect inning after scoring runs in the last inning

Stray
06-22-2012, 08:37 PM
Ben Revere is gonna be one of those guys this series

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 08:39 PM
Tigers have 1 hit over 5 inning.

Pirates have the 2nd best starting pitching in the NL and possibly all of baseball

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 08:40 PM
Wow

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 08:43 PM
He is done

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 08:46 PM
alot of people took the twins for granted but they are still an AL team and just about every AL team has a better offensive lineup than the Reds

Spider Tre
06-22-2012, 08:47 PM
friggin' finally...

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 08:47 PM
alot of people took the twins for granted but they are still an AL team and just about every AL team has a better offensive lineup than the Reds

Agreed

FloridaBuckeye
06-22-2012, 08:49 PM
I'm liking my Revere pick-up... just wish it wasnt against the Reds

malcontent
06-22-2012, 08:50 PM
John Jay is back to hitting .600.

Stray
06-22-2012, 08:54 PM
2 first pitch outs for Votto tonight.

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 09:04 PM
Why did he bring him back out there. Dusty has lost his mind

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 09:06 PM
Dusty is a jackass

malcontent
06-22-2012, 09:06 PM
Bring Marshall in now.

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 09:06 PM
Why is Bailey still in the game? Dusty not doing a very good job this season of getting an extension

malcontent
06-22-2012, 09:08 PM
Should have gone with Marshall.

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 09:08 PM
Bring the arm in that just came off the DL. You need outs now not in the 7th.

malcontent
06-22-2012, 09:08 PM
Bring the arm in that just came off the DL. You need outs now not in the 7th.
Baker can't think outside the box.

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 09:09 PM
This is stupid.

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 09:10 PM
we gonna walk him to? at least make them put it in play

Spider Tre
06-22-2012, 09:12 PM
uuuuggggggghhh.....

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 09:12 PM
Fire Dusty bull ****.

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 09:12 PM
this game is about to be ended. dont have the offense to come back from a big deficit

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 09:13 PM
Bray looks exactly the same as he did the last time I saw him. Boy has this staff gone south since they left NY.

Stray
06-22-2012, 09:13 PM
How the heck are you gonna throw that guy a 3-2 breaking ball?

malcontent
06-22-2012, 09:13 PM
Three LHPs in pen.

They must be used in order.

Bray first.

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 09:14 PM
nothing like running out a guy coming off the DL & a rehab right into a pressure situation!

Yeah - he should be ready for it but -- :angry:

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 09:14 PM
this game is about to be ended. dont have the offense to come back from a big deficit

About to be ended? Go back to school you nitwit

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 09:15 PM
nothing like running out a guy coming off the DL & a rehab right into a pressure situation!

Yeah - he should be ready for it but -- :angry:

So who would you have brought in?

malcontent
06-22-2012, 09:15 PM
About to be ended? Go back to school you nitwit
watch the personal attacks

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 09:16 PM
About to be ended? Go back to school you nitwit

No bashing other posters.

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 09:16 PM
LOL @ you guys telling me not to bash the biggest joke on these boards. Well played. I forgot forums thrive on trolls like him my bad.

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 09:17 PM
So who would you have brought in?

Not him --- I give him an easier return -- start an inning or a mop up which might be the case here soon

malcontent
06-22-2012, 09:18 PM
LOL @ you guys telling me not to bash the biggest joke on these boards. Well played. I forgot forums thrive on trolls like him my bad.
We all gonna sink in this boat together, PumpFak3First.

You included.

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 09:18 PM
Not him --- I give him an easier return -- start an inning or a mop up which might be the case here soon

Not him is not an answer he asked you a question. Hindsight is so 20/20 with some of you scabs.

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 09:18 PM
Not him --- I give him an easier return -- start an inning or a mop up which might be the case here soon

So who would you have brought in?

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 09:19 PM
The front office needs to make a change starting with the manager.

Who Dey Time
06-22-2012, 09:19 PM
The front office needs to make a change starting with the manager.

Yes change a first place manager. Brilliant theory.

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 09:20 PM
The front office needs to make a change starting with the manager.

Kill yourself. Pray to god this is not considered an attack but kill yourself!

malcontent
06-22-2012, 09:20 PM
The front office needs to make a change starting with the manager.
Years late, but better late than never.

holster10
06-22-2012, 09:20 PM
Bray- Nothing worse than watching a relief pitcher come into a pressure situation only to have him walk a guy.

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 09:20 PM
Not him is not an answer he asked you a question. Hindsight is so 20/20 with some of you scabs.

OK -- any other reliever on the team.

As for you --- well you may post your opinion -- I may choose to ignore it

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 09:21 PM
Kill yourself. Pray to god this is not considered an attack but kill yourself!

Your a joke dude and so are your post.

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 09:21 PM
Years late, but better late than never.

You're from Richmond I'm bound to come find you and smack you around you keep spewing the same trash.

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 09:21 PM
He brings in the lefty to face the left handed batter. The lefty can't get the ball over the plate. So its the manager's fault. If Brays not ready to pitch he shouldn't been brought up.

This isn't exactly rocket science boys.

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 09:22 PM
Your a joke dude and so are your post.

Why hasn't this fool been banned yet? that post was about as personal as it gets. I think we'll all be happy to see him gone

Who Dey Time
06-22-2012, 09:22 PM
Why hasn't this fool been banned yet? that post was about as personal as it gets. I think we'll all be happy to see him gone

I think most here feel the same about you.

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 09:23 PM
OK -- any other reliever on the team.


You don't bring a right hander in at that situation. Come on. This is fundamental.

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 09:23 PM
You don't bring a right hander in at that situation. Come on. This is fundamental.

Why not bring Marshall in?

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 09:23 PM
I think most here feel the same about you.

the feeling is mutual

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 09:24 PM
Why hasn't this fool been banned yet? that post was about as personal as it gets. I think we'll all be happy to see him gone

I won't dare call you a name, I'm too afraid of being banned from a forum that won't even clean up its true riff raff. Hint, that's you!

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 09:24 PM
He brings in the lefty to face the left handed batter. The lefty can't get the ball over the plate. So its the manager's fault. If Brays not ready to pitch he shouldn't been brought up.

This isn't exactly rocket science boys.

I agree in principle -- if it is me I don't bring him into that situation -- any other pitcher would be picked by me before him.

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 09:25 PM
You don't bring a right hander in at that situation. Come on. This is fundamental.

in your book -- not in mine in that situation

Stray
06-22-2012, 09:25 PM
lotta warning track power tonight

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 09:26 PM
Why not bring Marshall in?


If you would have suggested that at the time it might have meant something. But now its just a second guess. I don't bring Marshall in in the 6th inning particularly when you can't trust Chapman to close right now.

Baker made the right move, its all on Bray.

redsfan1995
06-22-2012, 09:27 PM
Why hasn't this fool been banned yet? that post was about as personal as it gets. I think we'll all be happy to see him gone

I'm taking care of it.

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 09:27 PM
I agree in principle -- if it is me I don't bring him into that situation -- any other pitcher would be picked by me before him.

You can't criticize a manager when you can't even name 1 guy you would have chosen to bring in. You're the manager here bro, you can't say I would have picked anyone besides him. Pick a guy!

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 09:27 PM
If you would have suggested that at the time it might have meant something. But now its just a second guess. I don't bring Marshall in in the 6th inning particularly when you can't trust Chapman to close right now.

Baker made the right move, its all on Bray.

Read my earlier post

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 09:31 PM
You can't criticize a manager when you can't even name 1 guy you would have chosen to bring in. You're the manager here bro, you can't say I would have picked anyone besides him. Pick a guy!

I did -- anyone else ---

Do I need to list them?

LO & SL would have been first choices ---

The lefty righty matchup is over-rated in my opinion and as I have repeatedly replied to you --- I don't run him out into a pressure situation like this one.

I'm giving you credit to assume you know who I mean

:bang:

redsrolen
06-22-2012, 09:32 PM
SCOTTY>>>>:D

Stray
06-22-2012, 09:32 PM
Rolen is swinging the bat alright in the few games he's been back.

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 09:33 PM
The lefty righty matchup is over-rated in my opinion

Nuff said.

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 09:33 PM
SCOTTY>>>>:D

He's a machine!

Let's keep the oil can handy though says the Tinman

redsrolen
06-22-2012, 09:34 PM
They need to split Scotty's playing time...or he'll be gone in a blink of an eye....

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 09:35 PM
Nuff said.

What are you trying to say?

Rightys can't get a lefty out?

Stray
06-22-2012, 09:36 PM
Mesoraco isnt really the guy I'd want up in this situation. Hope he proves me wrong.

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 09:37 PM
Mes just isnt ready

Stray
06-22-2012, 09:38 PM
Here comes Frazier.

Stray
06-22-2012, 09:39 PM
Mes let us down there

KYRedLeg
06-22-2012, 09:39 PM
Mesoraco isnt really the guy I'd want up in this situation. Hope he proves me wrong.

How many times has Mez been up with the bases loaded in the past month? Seems like it happens in every game...

malcontent
06-22-2012, 09:39 PM
You're from Richmond I'm bound to come find you and smack you around you keep spewing the same trash.
I assume you'll be gone after tonight.

Stray
06-22-2012, 09:40 PM
How many times has Mez been up with the bases loaded in the past month? Seems like it happens in every game...

When you're struggling the big moments seem to find you. He has a long way to go offensively.

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 09:41 PM
It would have been nice to have a decent lefty to bring up there to hit for Meseraco (like every other team in baseball is capable of doing) but then we all know that the lefty/righty thingy is overrated.

Stray
06-22-2012, 09:41 PM
He breaks more bats than anyone I can think of. He gets seriously sawed off...like sawed off on his knuckles and hits a weak pop ups. He swings at bad pitches and his swing is way too long.

Stray
06-22-2012, 09:44 PM
It would have been nice to have a decent lefty to bring up there to hit for Meseraco (like every other team in baseball is capable of doing) but then we all know that the lefty/righty thingy is overrated.

Are you implying that Willie Harris isn't a decent lefty? :laugh:

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 09:44 PM
He breaks more bats than anyone I can think of. He gets seriously sawed off...like sawed off on his knuckles and hits a weak pop ups. He swings at bad pitches and his swing is way too long.

Agreed he seems to jam himself most of the time.

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 09:45 PM
It would have been nice to have a decent lefty to bring up there to hit for Meseraco (like every other team in baseball is capable of doing) but then we all know that the lefty/righty thingy is overrated.

Well I know you are just itching for a fight and you might need one but I think what we need is a catcher hitting better than .191 that can handle a bat.

I said at the very start of the season that I thought Mes was not ready -- so far I feel i have been proven right and I wish that it was not true.

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 09:47 PM
Pirates win again. Only up 1 1/2 games

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 09:48 PM
Pirates win again. Lead down to 1 1/2

People need to start realizing those guys are in it to win it this season

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 09:49 PM
Worrying about the division lead before the All Star break is so foolish. Who cares what it is or isn't. I'll take a gander last month of season, means **** now.

Who Dey Time
06-22-2012, 09:50 PM
People need to start realizing those guys are in it to win it this season

Everyone is in it to win it. Some can and most can't. Over 6 months the Pirates will likely show they can't.

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 09:52 PM
Everyone is in it to win it. Some can and most can't. Over 6 months the Pirates will likely show they can't.

I keep thinking that but dang thay are still there.

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 09:52 PM
I keep thinking that but dang thay are still there.

It's not even halfway LMAO

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 09:53 PM
Very easy inning.

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 09:54 PM
It's not even halfway LMAO

Dude go away.

Stray
06-22-2012, 09:54 PM
Disappointing inning

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 09:55 PM
i have a feeling the reds will put something together in the 8th

Stray
06-22-2012, 09:55 PM
It feels like we're gonna need someone to hit a homerun. Best chance of that next inning with 4-5-6 up.

Stray
06-22-2012, 09:56 PM
It feels like we're gonna need someone to hit a homerun. Best chance of that next inning with 4-5-6 up.

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 09:56 PM
Dude go away.

Says the guy who said a few pages ago it was time to replace a 1st place manager.

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 09:57 PM
i have a feeling the reds will put something together in the 8th

Mods talked to you didn't they? :laugh:

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 09:57 PM
Are you implying that Willie Harris isn't a decent lefty? :laugh:

We've just seen the Mets, Cleveland, and now the Twins load their lineups with left handed hitters against our right handed pitchers. So its not like this concept is all that difficult for Walt to figure out, particularly since its been going on three years now.

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 09:57 PM
Says the guy who said a few pages ago it was time to replace a 1st place manager.

Says the guy who wish I would kill myself.

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 09:57 PM
Mods talked to you didn't they? :laugh:

what?

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 09:59 PM
Says the guy who wish I would kill myself.

Reading comprehension not your thing?

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 10:01 PM
Kill yourself. Pray to god this is not considered an attack but kill yourself!

Memorization isn't your strong point.

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 10:02 PM
Memorization isn't your strong point.

And like I said point to the part where I said and I quote "I WISH YOU WOULD KILL YOURSELF." Where do you see me wishing there or using the word wish? Please find it. Reading comprehension, find it!

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:03 PM
If people canít handle someone on the internet making smart remarks or donít have the ability to ignore them or deal with them, I have no idea how they function in society.

That being said, all this ad hominem stuff is getting boring. How about we stick to the issues.

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 10:03 PM
pumpkak is starting trivial arguments left and right just for his own personal amusement and is ruining this thread

AnythingCincy
06-22-2012, 10:03 PM
And like I said point to the part where I said and I quote "I WISH YOU WOULD KILL YOURSELF." Where do you see me wishing there or using the word wish? Please find it.

Same thing. Just go away you troll.

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 10:05 PM
Kentucky inbreds LOL

As for the game 2 innings left, cake for the Reds

redsfan1995
06-22-2012, 10:05 PM
I know we have had some problems in the game thread tonight lets keep the discussion about the game going on right now.

fielder's choice
06-22-2012, 10:07 PM
"They'll get him by a step" :lol:

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:08 PM
This is all on Bray. 4 runs should be enough against this team, even in this little league ball park.

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 10:08 PM
HR hitter not working the count sort of foolish

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 10:09 PM
This is all on Bray. 4 runs should be enough against this team, even in this little league ball park.

dont forget Homer, he's the one who loaded the bases

Stray
06-22-2012, 10:10 PM
Homer loaded the bases after getting the first 2 guys out

Stray
06-22-2012, 10:11 PM
Mes left the bases loaded with 1 out.

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 10:11 PM
McD's under the cap game stupid easy

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:12 PM
dont forget Homer, he's the one who loaded the bases

No but at least he's made some contributions this season, unlike Bray. This pitching has been really disappointing ever since Latos blew that big lead last Monday.

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 10:13 PM
No but at least he's made some contributions this season, unlike Bray. This pitching has been really disappointing ever since Latos blew that big lead last Monday.

true, at what point do we become concerned that Cueto is the only starting pitcher we can consistently count on and only Marshall out of the pen?

The Rage
06-22-2012, 10:13 PM
Weird game for Bailey. He looked better than he did in New York by a long shot.

You never bring in Bill Bray with the bases loaded. Once again, Dusty killed himself by stupidity.

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:15 PM
true, at what point do we become concerned that Cueto is the only starting pitcher we can consistently count on and only Marshall out of the pen?

Hopefully Leake is ready to take off like he did around this time last year. Then if Latos would ever grow up we might get something going.

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 10:16 PM
Hopefully Leake is ready to take off like he did around this time last year. Then if Latos would ever grow up we might get something going.

i've just about lost all faith in Latos until next season

AintlifeGrande
06-22-2012, 10:18 PM
Sad we get in 1st place,and play with no sense of urgency.

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:19 PM
Sad we get in 1st place,and play with no sense of urgency.

Dude, this isn't the NFL. What does urgency got to do with it? What we need is for our pitchers to get the ball over the plate with something on it.

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 10:20 PM
Sad we get in 1st place,and play with no sense of urgency.

This is Skip Bayless talk. Sense of urgency in 1st place huh? Makes absolutely no sense. Sense of urgency is something made up. It's like when people say the other team wanted it more. No they didn't, they just executed better. No such thing as these made up generalities.

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 10:23 PM
ROLLIN

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:23 PM
Good to see Rolen get around on that fastball.

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 10:24 PM
alright guys, lets do this

mrherd05
06-22-2012, 10:24 PM
sad that we are in first place and according to the folks on this site we suck

Red Raindog
06-22-2012, 10:25 PM
would like to see a runner here

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 10:28 PM
Did we not have a quick guy to pinch run for Scotty?

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:29 PM
Put a lefty on the mound and we become the 27 Yankees.

Stray
06-22-2012, 10:30 PM
ffs

The Rage
06-22-2012, 10:30 PM
Boy is Cozart's blunder looking big or what, hopefully he can make up for it

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 10:31 PM
nice ab Zach

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 10:31 PM
Way to put any lumber on the ball kid jesus

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:31 PM
That's just great.

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 10:32 PM
Lineup would be so stupid tough with a legit leadoff guy

Stray
06-22-2012, 10:32 PM
That was as frustrating of a game as Iv'e seen them play all year

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:33 PM
Left handed pitcher and Cozart takes it right down the middle.

Stray
06-22-2012, 10:33 PM
How freaking hard is it for our guys to put a ball in play? Why do they insist on taking borderline pitches with 2 outs in those situations?

ugh

PumpFak3First
06-22-2012, 10:33 PM
Top 2 guys 3 K's, rest of team 2. Won't get it done.

Krawhitham
06-22-2012, 10:33 PM
Has did dusty not pinch run for Rolen?

A pinch runner would have scored

The Rage
06-22-2012, 10:33 PM
That was as frustrating of a game as Iv'e seen them play all year

Yup, everything looked better than the numbers would say.

GoReds19
06-22-2012, 10:33 PM
Mark Berry should be fired.

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 10:33 PM
this game really hurts. AL continues to flex their muscles against the reds

Krawhitham
06-22-2012, 10:34 PM
Left handed pitcher and Cozart takes it right down the middle.

Are you watching the game? FoxTrax showed the pitch was inside off the plate

Stray
06-22-2012, 10:34 PM
If you roll with rookies you gotta accept some of their rookie stuff, but Mes and Cozart should know better than to take those pitches.

BUTLER REDSFAN
06-22-2012, 10:35 PM
this team loses so many winnable games

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 10:35 PM
cant be losing games to teams as bad as the twins at home. Really starting to wonder when this team will start falling off

RedsFanInBama
06-22-2012, 10:36 PM
Half-assed baseball by Mes and Cozart in critical situations tonight. Neither showed a lick of toughness.

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:36 PM
Are you watching the game? FoxTrax showed the pitch was inside off the plate

As usual, foxtract was wrong. Which is why nobody argued.

Stray
06-22-2012, 10:37 PM
The bright spot was Rolen, it looks like the shot to the shoulder will buy us some good baseball. Lets hope it lasts till the end of the year.

Maker_84
06-22-2012, 10:37 PM
Half-assed baseball by Mes and Cozart in critical situations tonight. Neither showed a lick of toughness.

i wouldn't call it half assed, it's just neither one of them are very good. they're trying, just not producing

wvreds
06-22-2012, 10:37 PM
Things I learned tonight

1. Cozart in clutch RISP situations= awful

2. Mark Berry is an abomination

3. Heisey likes dirt balls

4. We can not win winnable games (if that makes sense)

5. 4 in a row, that win streak we had is just about useless now

6. Why does this happen?

cincyredway
06-22-2012, 10:37 PM
Why in the world didn't he pinch run for rolen, a faster guy and mark berry sends him

Stray
06-22-2012, 10:38 PM
He held Rolen because he didn't run on contact, he looked back to see if it would be caught. Rolen is still really good at running the bases....maybe just didn't read it off the bat.

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:38 PM
He had Leake or Arroyo and neither one of them would have scored on that hit.

wvreds
06-22-2012, 10:39 PM
Why in the world didn't he pinch run for rolen, a faster guy and mark berry sends him

two words, MIKE LEAKE!!

GoReds19
06-22-2012, 10:40 PM
two words, MIKE LEAKE!!

Willy Harris was over there too.

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:41 PM
We should have won 3 games this week. But Latos on Monday, Chapman on Tuesday, and Bailey/Bray tonight didn't get it done. Some of these guys need to step up.

Stray
06-22-2012, 10:41 PM
Bray walking in that run hurt.

Just a lot of bad baseball tonight. We should have easily won this game.

cincyredway
06-22-2012, 10:42 PM
Willie mays Hayes Harris did not get used

BUTLER REDSFAN
06-22-2012, 10:43 PM
I know he had a good night but still bottom line 0-4 since Rolen came back and back to our losing ways

cincyredway
06-22-2012, 10:43 PM
What is reds record with rolen starting

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:44 PM
I know he had a good night but still bottom line 0-4 since Rolen came back and back to our losing ways

Rolen can't go out to the mound and start throwing the ball, and if you want to know why we're o for four, the mound is the place to look.

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:45 PM
What is reds record with rolen starting

What do facts have to do with it?

GoReds19
06-22-2012, 10:47 PM
What was the point in bunting, if you don have any intentions on sending the runner on a base hit?

RedsFanInBama
06-22-2012, 10:47 PM
Things I learned tonight
5. 4 in a row, that win streak we had is just about useless now


That makes no sense. Without that win streak we'd be in real trouble.

BUTLER REDSFAN
06-22-2012, 10:48 PM
I cant explain it--I'm not blaming the losses on Rolen--we were just piddling along the 1st 6 weeks of season--he goes on dl and we catch fire--he comes back and we are 0-4.

cincyredway
06-22-2012, 10:50 PM
Ya not blaming all the losses on rolen but I just think we r a better team with Frazier as our starting third baseman. I think we 8 under 500 with rolen that makes us 15 over 500 with Frazier

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:51 PM
I cant explain it--I'm not blaming the losses on Rolen--we were just piddling along the 1st 6 weeks of season--he goes on dl and we catch fire--he comes back and we are 0-4.

Its easy to explain: the pitching was ordinary the first six weeks of the season, was great thereafter, and has not been very good the last four games.

Stray
06-22-2012, 10:51 PM
He just didn't read it off of the bat. It has nothing to do with Rolen being slow, he held up to see if it would be caught.

cincyredway
06-22-2012, 10:52 PM
But I think berry held him because he is a slower runner, if Harris is n the game I think berry sends him

Ironman92
06-22-2012, 10:53 PM
Has did dusty not pinch run for Rolen?

A pinch runner would have scored

Disagree....I was there and it had to hesitate for Span...had to...then Span had the ball near home just as Rolen rounded third

Stray
06-22-2012, 10:53 PM
Either way I don't think that was the problem. Berry sends him with 2 outs.

Cozart needs to hit a flyball, just like Mes needed to.

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:54 PM
The ball was hit too hard. Rolen, Harriss and Leake would have all been out by a mile. That play is not why we lost this game.

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:55 PM
Either way I don't think that was the problem. Berry sends him with 2 outs.

Cozart needs to hit a flyball, just like Mes needed to.

Good point, you don't gamble with one out. Fundamental.

redram
06-22-2012, 10:55 PM
Bray walking in that run hurt.

Just a lot of bad baseball tonight. We should have easily won this game.

Tell me the last time Bray came into a game in that situation and did not the same thing he did tonight. Give up the hit that scores the run or walks batters. I cannot remember the last time he pitched well in a clutch situation and I am talking last year as well as this year. Bring in a guy just off the DL to pitch with the bases loaded is just what I expected Dusty to do.

brm7675
06-22-2012, 10:56 PM
Thank god it wasn't a last place team with a SP with a 7+ era we lost to tonight...

Who Dey Time
06-22-2012, 10:56 PM
Also keep in mind that if you pinch run Rolen, Harris would have had to play 3B in the 10th with Frazier and Valdez already used.

cincyredway
06-22-2012, 10:56 PM
Cairo

Stray
06-22-2012, 10:57 PM
Also keep in mind that if you pinch run Rolen, Harris would have had to play 3B in the 10th with Frazier and Valdez already used.

Cairo couldve played, but I don't think we shoulda pinch ran for Rolen. He's one of our best base runners on the team.

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 10:57 PM
Tell me the last time Bray came into a game in that situation and did not the same thing he did tonight. Give up the hit that scores the run or walks batters. I cannot remember the last time he pitched well in a clutch situation and I am talking last year as well as this year. Bring in a guy just off the DL to pitch with the bases loaded is just what I expected Dusty to do.

Then Bray should not be on the team. Baker made the right move, Bray didn't execute.

cincyredway
06-22-2012, 10:57 PM
I disagree I think if Harris is n the game berry sends him, but we will never know

Who Dey Time
06-22-2012, 10:57 PM
Cairo

He sits to PH whenever the P comes up.

Mutaman
06-22-2012, 11:01 PM
baseball is so strange. how can a team look so good against a good team like the mets in ny, and look so bad at home against the hapless twinkies less than a week later?

redram
06-22-2012, 11:12 PM
Then Bray should not be on the team. Baker made the right move, Bray didn't execute.

We will just have to disagree on this one. He had Marshall that could have come in. Bray is just off the DL, let him pitch in a not so important spot first. Even in this one if the bases were not loaded. Even at that we had two chances to score with less that two outs and we once again fail to do so. This happens way to often with this team.