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Larkin88
06-27-2012, 10:02 AM
Reds lineup:
Cozart SS
Heisey CF
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Ludwick LF
Frazier 3B
Mesoraco C
Bailey P

No Braun today for the Brew Crew.

Who Dey Time
06-27-2012, 10:32 AM
I thought more of the regulars would sit today but looks like a good day to get a sweep!

Who Dey Time
06-27-2012, 10:36 AM
Brewers Lineup....

Aoki LF
Morgan RF
Ramirez 3B
Hart 1B
Weeks 2B
Maldonado C
Ransom SS
Gomez CF
Greinke P

mivers176
06-27-2012, 10:38 AM
biggest hurdle today is going to be not striking out vs Greinke. Estrada and his 4.5+ era got 12 on us yesterday so there's no telling how many Greinke can rack up since he averages 1+ an inning ... hope we can pull off the sweep though, what a great response after losing 5 of 6 to CLE / MIN

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 11:27 AM
Stubbs side OK? He said it still hurt him some....big swing last night affect him or is Dusty being smart and letting him rest it today OR is Stubbs not going to play 39/40 games?

I'm going a little #1 and a little #2

Larkin88
06-27-2012, 11:33 AM
Stubbs side OK? He said it still hurt him some....big swing last night affect him or is Dusty being smart and letting him rest it today OR is Stubbs not going to play 39/40 games?

I'm going a little #1 and a little #2

I think they're just being cautious with him before this long roadie. On the radio broadcast before the game yesterday, I think they mentioned Heisey would be getting a start in center today even before last night's game action.

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 12:03 PM
I think they're just being cautious with him before this long roadie. On the radio broadcast before the game yesterday, I think they mentioned Heisey would be getting a start in center today even before last night's game action.

Ok good....figured Heisey would be in LF

texasdave
06-27-2012, 12:07 PM
Some random facts before the game:

In six years and over 1100 plate appearances, Ryan Hanigan has never attempted a stolen base. For context, Sean Casey attempted 26 in his career.
Joey Votto's offensive winning percentage is .858. Assuming average pitching and defense a team of nine Joey Votto's would be 63-10 right now.
Mat Latos had eight swings-and-misses on his fastball and 16 on his slider in his last start, giving him a career-best total of 24. The 24 swings-and-misses are the fourth-most by any pitcher this season and the most by a Reds starter in the last four seasons.
According to FanGraphs.com Brandon Phillips has had 149 balls hit into his zone and he has made plays on 148 of them. Slacker. He is projected to save a league-best 13 runs over the average second baseman. His Brewer counterpart, Rickie Weeks, is projected to be 25.7 runs worse than the average second baseman. They are at opposite ends of the second baseman fielding spectrum.
As a team the Reds are OPSing .830 with nobody out. That drops to .689 and .684 with 1 and 2 outs respectively. How does the league do as a whole? .727/.714/.711. Any ideas as to what causes those funky splits for the Reds?
The average NL team has 21 HBP so far in 2012. Red's batsmen have been plunked 19 times. Milwaukee must have pissed off the entire league. They have been hit a whopping 44 times! 17 more than the next highest team total.
Cincinnati, as a team, ranks 4th in defensive efficiency. Suprisingly, the Reds have only turned 47 double plays so far. That is next to last in the league. Atlanta leads with 71 double plays. National League average is 61. Never would have guessed that.

Mutaman
06-27-2012, 12:17 PM
How can it be a rubber game when the REds won the first two?

texasdave
06-27-2012, 12:40 PM
How can it be a rubber game when the REds won the first two?

It can't be.

CrimsonCrusader
06-27-2012, 12:40 PM
How goes it, True Believers?

I have been CRAZY BUSY since the season began, so I haven't been able to check in as much as I'd have liked...but, I'm glad (as I'm sure we ALL are) that they are kicking a$$ and taking names this season. GO REDS!!!!!! :thumbup:

texasdave
06-27-2012, 12:40 PM
How goes it, True Believers?

I have been CRAZY BUSY since the season began, so I haven't been able to check in as much as I'd have liked...but, I'm glad (as I'm sure we ALL are) that they are kicking a$$ and taking names this season. GO REDS!!!!!! :thumbup:

Welcome home.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 12:41 PM
How good a fielder is Carlos Gomez if he pushes Nyjer Morgan to right?

CrimsonCrusader
06-27-2012, 12:42 PM
Welcome home.

Thank ya, Dave. You were certainly missed...:D

texasdave
06-27-2012, 12:43 PM
Looks like a fun summer ahead for Redleg fans.

moewan
06-27-2012, 12:43 PM
What are the odds Votto gets plunked here

CrimsonCrusader
06-27-2012, 12:44 PM
What are the odds Votto gets plunked here

Purty good.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 12:46 PM
Joey Doubles doubles.

moewan
06-27-2012, 12:46 PM
32 doubles now for Joey

texasdave
06-27-2012, 12:48 PM
Nice play by Aramis to nip Phillips on a slow roller.

read favorite
06-27-2012, 12:48 PM
reminded me of scotty madison there

texasdave
06-27-2012, 12:48 PM
Votto still on pace to set an MLB record for doubles in a season. He is on pace for 71.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 12:51 PM
Heisey bangs off the wall on a Hart triple.

CrimsonCrusader
06-27-2012, 12:51 PM
Votto still on pace to set an MLB record for doubles in a season. He is on pace for 71.

I concur...leads Adrian Gonzalez (BAHStan) by eight, with no hint of slowing down. ;)

texasdave
06-27-2012, 12:52 PM
When you are talking about an ALL-TIME record that is really impressive.

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 12:53 PM
Heisey just gets beat up out there....love his effort.

Get the ball down Homer...Jesus

texasdave
06-27-2012, 12:53 PM
Heisey bangs against the wall on a Weeks' homer. 2-0 Brewers.

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 12:54 PM
When you are talking about an ALL-TIME record that is really impressive.

Chicks dig the double. Would love to see 60+

texasdave
06-27-2012, 12:54 PM
Reds catch a break. That ball was fair.

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 12:54 PM
Reds with a nice 2 base break

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 12:55 PM
Get the ball down!!!

texasdave
06-27-2012, 12:55 PM
Reds with a nice 2 base break

At least two bases. Bruce would have had to get up and chase it down.

moewan
06-27-2012, 12:57 PM
Homer is falling behind too many batters

Mutaman
06-27-2012, 12:58 PM
How goes it, True Believers?

I have been CRAZY BUSY since the season began, so I haven't been able to check in as much as I'd have liked...but, I'm glad (as I'm sure we ALL are) that they are kicking a$$ and taking names this season. GO REDS!!!!!! :thumbup:

Welcome back. But the Reds need to take priority over work. :)

texasdave
06-27-2012, 12:59 PM
Like to see Bailey string a bunch of zeroes now.

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 12:59 PM
At least two bases. Bruce would have had to get up and chase it down.

Didn't ball bounce in stands?

texasdave
06-27-2012, 12:59 PM
Didn't ball bounce in stands?

Too be honest I am not sure.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:05 PM
Frazier triples to deeeeeeep left-center.

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:05 PM
Was that a cheesehead in the outfield seats?

CrimsonCrusader
06-27-2012, 01:06 PM
Ack -- coulda went five more feet....but, we'll take it......:D

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 01:07 PM
Gomez almost matched Morgan....something about Brewers CF players always making insane plays against the Reds. Morgan and Gomez have several and even a backup I can't remember his name made one of the 5 best catches I have ever seen.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:08 PM
Poor strike three call there. If Greinke is gonna get that call all day turn out the lights.

mrherd05
06-27-2012, 01:08 PM
Dude has to be sent down.

CrimsonCrusader
06-27-2012, 01:08 PM
Welcome back. But the Reds need to take priority over work. :)

Thank you, Mutaman. I do agree. But it's still nice to be up 2 on St. Pewy. :laugh:

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:09 PM
Dude has to be sent down.

Who? Mesaraco, and bring up who Corky Miller.

Larkin88
06-27-2012, 01:09 PM
Dude has to be sent down.

Who, Mesoraco?

Mutaman
06-27-2012, 01:09 PM
Gomez almost matched Morgan....something about Brewers CF players always making insane plays against the Reds. Morgan and Gomez have several and even a backup I can't remember his name made one of the 5 best catches I have ever seen.

I think it was Cain.

mrherd05
06-27-2012, 01:10 PM
Yes, he isnt ready. Bring up Navarro. Or leave him on the bench to play only when Hannigan gets hurt.

You have to swing the bat, that is two big two out backwards K's against him in his last two games.

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:11 PM
Yes, he isnt ready. Bring up Navarro. Or leave him on the bench to play only when Hannigan gets hurt.

You have to swing the bat, that is two big two out backwards K's against him in his last two games.

That called third strike was nowhere near the strikezone

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 01:11 PM
Gomez almost matched Morgan....something about Brewers CF players always making insane plays against the Reds. Morgan and Gomez have several and even a backup I can't remember his name made one of the 5 best catches I have ever seen.

Lorenzo Cain....seriously barely played in majors but if you can find the video.

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 01:11 PM
I think it was Cain.

Solid!

mrherd05
06-27-2012, 01:12 PM
Nowhere NEAR the strikezone...are you kidding me. Close enough for a major league umpire to ring you up.

mrherd05
06-27-2012, 01:13 PM
besides, not like it is the first time that has happened.

Mutaman
06-27-2012, 01:13 PM
He was one of the guys traded for Greinke and it was one of the best catches I ever saw. Right behind Kirk Gibson's catch in the '88 playoffs.

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:13 PM
Every time Cozart throws to first it feels like its going to be an adventure

Mutaman
06-27-2012, 01:18 PM
Cain's been on DL all year.


http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120612&content_id=33180368&notebook_id=33183904&vkey=notebook_kc&c_id=kc

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:18 PM
Errors haunt. 3-0.

Falcon7
06-27-2012, 01:18 PM
Not much effort by Votto, IMO.

TSJ55
06-27-2012, 01:19 PM
Errors haunt. 3-0.

QFT. Silly errors like that and walks tear me up.

TSJ55
06-27-2012, 01:19 PM
GREAT throw by Mez!

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:19 PM
Mes gunned down Ramirez.

Mutaman
06-27-2012, 01:20 PM
This is two straight mediocre performances by Homer and the end of 4 straight good ones by Red's pitchers.

Falcon7
06-27-2012, 01:20 PM
GREAT throw by Mez!

Yes it was. Thom already had him safe.

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:20 PM
Looks like a bloody nose for Phillips

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 01:21 PM
Yeah....MLB.com has the video...but I don't know how to post it on here.

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:23 PM
Has anybody ever won that truck?

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:24 PM
Real low strike zone today

TSJ55
06-27-2012, 01:24 PM
eh, don't know about that call on Cozart

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:24 PM
Cozart in a serious Bruce. 1 for his last 24.

Maker_84
06-27-2012, 01:24 PM
Homerun bailey really struggling lately

Falcon7
06-27-2012, 01:24 PM
eh, don't know about that call on Cozart

I do, it was a BALL.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:25 PM
Nyjer gives us a two-base gift.

TSJ55
06-27-2012, 01:25 PM
Nice play Morgan.

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:25 PM
Nyjer gives us a two-base gift.

Let's take advantage

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:25 PM
Second two-base break for the Reds. Need to cash in.

Larkin88
06-27-2012, 01:26 PM
Double by Heisey. At least Joey won't be leading off next inning.

mrherd05
06-27-2012, 01:28 PM
Homerun bailey really struggling lately

Good point. Game before last threw 8 innings giving up one run.

Last game 6 and a third.

CrimsonCrusader
06-27-2012, 01:29 PM
C'mon, damn it!!!!! Capitalize!!!!!

TSJ55
06-27-2012, 01:29 PM
I love watching Votto hit

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:29 PM
Come on DatDude. Make them pay for that bloody nose.

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:29 PM
Grienke at 55 pitches

Falcon7
06-27-2012, 01:29 PM
Looked like a pitch to drive, before the walk.

CrimsonCrusader
06-27-2012, 01:30 PM
BP!!!!!

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:30 PM
Yes. 3-1. Votto with another baserunning adventure.

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:30 PM
Dat dude delivers, and Votto catches a break

TSJ55
06-27-2012, 01:30 PM
Another heady play from Morgan gives the Reds a break

CrimsonCrusader
06-27-2012, 01:31 PM
Yeahhhh, BABY!!!!!

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:31 PM
Launch one, Jay.

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:31 PM
Yes. 2-1. Votto with another baserunning adventure.

Not picking nits, but it's 3-1

krm1580
06-27-2012, 01:31 PM
And on the additional plus side Grienke is at 60 pitches through 2 2/3. I would feel much better getting to the bullpen than facing him all game.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:31 PM
Not picking nits, but it's 3-1

Correct. I changed it. Wishful thinking on my part.

mrherd05
06-27-2012, 01:32 PM
There is my issue with managing. You have a stud pitcher over 60 pitches in the 3rd inning, and you let a hitter like Jay Bruce swing away on a 3 - 0 count.

Just stupid, give the damn take sign.

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:32 PM
Correct. I changed it. Wishful thinking on my part.

It's all good, just figured it was a typo

CrimsonCrusader
06-27-2012, 01:32 PM
Ugh.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:33 PM
It's all good, just figured it was a typo

I was trying to pencil-whip those Brewers. :)

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:37 PM
Since they are playing the Brewers, I think I'm going to crack a beer :)

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:38 PM
Come on Homer

TSJ55
06-27-2012, 01:40 PM
Good God. The Roll

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:41 PM
5-1. Cody Ranson on an 0-2 pitch.

TSJ55
06-27-2012, 01:41 PM
0-2 tater. Really?

Falcon7
06-27-2012, 01:42 PM
Homer put it on a F'N Tee!

LexRedsFan
06-27-2012, 01:42 PM
Well, we can still rally...but...crap.

RedsFanInBama
06-27-2012, 01:43 PM
Very disappointing effort by Homer after outstanding starts from Latos and Bronson.

BluegrassRedleg
06-27-2012, 01:43 PM
0-2, right down the chute. :(

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:44 PM
Brewer bullpen is vulnerable. So if they can make Greinke work here the next two innings there is still a shot.

Stray
06-27-2012, 01:44 PM
Wow just checked the box score, I guess we got the bad Homer today.

malcontent
06-27-2012, 01:44 PM
Bailey's never gonna be more than what he is now. He's peaked, IMO.

That's why I say ship him to a team that needs a replacement-level starter.

--ducks--

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:45 PM
Homer getting hammered today :thumbdown:

CrimsonCrusader
06-27-2012, 01:45 PM
Frikkin' Brew Boys. I want a sweep! They're not THAT good! :thumbdown:

Also, I have cracked a beer open, as well...LOL.....:beerme:

Larkin88
06-27-2012, 01:45 PM
Homer put it on a F'N Tee!

Put it exactly where they set up for it. Don't know whose decision it was to throw a four seamer on an 0-2 count, though.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:46 PM
Balls are flying in GABP. 5-2 on a Ludwick dinger.

Larkin88
06-27-2012, 01:46 PM
Bailey's never gonna be more than what he is now. He's peaked, IMO.

That's why I say ship him to a team that needs a replacement-level starter.

--ducks--

What replacement-level starter would you rather have in his place that will provide above-replacement-level production?

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:47 PM
With the ball carrying today this game is far from over

CrimsonCrusader
06-27-2012, 01:47 PM
Rally time, damn it! RALLY TIME! !!!!!!!!!!! :thumbup:

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:48 PM
Nice play there by maldonado

malcontent
06-27-2012, 01:48 PM
What replacement-level starter would you rather have in his place that will provide above-replacement-level production?
I'd take my chances with Jonathan Sanchez.

Following those nasty sliders on GameDay would at least be more interesting than watching Bailey react angrily after yet another homer.

krm1580
06-27-2012, 01:49 PM
Is it me or have we spent this season getting abused by guys that everybody else seem to have no trouble getting out.

Cody Ransom and Rickie Weeks came into today under the Mendoza line.

Larkin88
06-27-2012, 01:49 PM
It would at least be more interesting than watching Bailey react angrily after yet another homer.

:laugh: He definitely does have those moments, no argument there.

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 01:49 PM
Wrong Thom...Pudge had more GG than Bench

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:50 PM
Next year Bailey is gonna be expensive for what he is giving the team. Hopefully, these two starts are just a bump in the road for Homer.

Larkin88
06-27-2012, 01:50 PM
Is it me or have we spent this season getting abused by guys that everybody else seem to have no trouble getting out.

Cody Ransom and Rickie Weeks came into today under the Mendoza line.

I honestly don't know a whole lot about Ransom, but Weeks has historically absolutely owned Homer.

RedsFanInBama
06-27-2012, 01:51 PM
Put it exactly where they set up for it. Don't know whose decision it was to throw a four seamer on an 0-2 count, though.

Homer's decision ultimately. He has the right to shake off any sign or location he is given. However, you have to think he is less likely to throw that pitch with Hanigan behind the plate. Mes not as far along in that area at this point.

brm7675
06-27-2012, 01:51 PM
I will just never figure Homer out. I see some much ability there and something just isn't clicking. When both Leake and Broson whom I believe each don't have the talent level Homer does out performing him I just have to wonder if Homer is what he is and is just going to be a 4/5 type of guy in your staff who will every so often have a great game surrounded by average to sub average games...

Stray
06-27-2012, 01:51 PM
Has Homer just been terrible or has he given up some cheap GABP homers?

brm7675
06-27-2012, 01:51 PM
Next year Bailey is gonna be expensive for what he is giving the team. Hopefully, these two starts are just a bump in the road for Homer.

If Homer was a road, your car would need new shocks by now ....

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:52 PM
Has Homer just been terrible or has he given up some cheap GABP homers?

A little bit of both

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:52 PM
Has Homer just been terrible or has he given up some cheap GABP homers?


Weeks' was 400 feet to dead center. I don't think Ransom's was a cheapie either.

Falcon7
06-27-2012, 01:52 PM
Has Homer just been terrible or has he given up some cheap GABP homers?

TERRIBLE.

malcontent
06-27-2012, 01:52 PM
I hear Dioner Navarro calls a nice game.

RedsFanInBama
06-27-2012, 01:52 PM
I will just never figure Homer out. I see some much ability there and something just isn't clicking. When both Leake and Broson whom I believe each don't have the talent level Homer does out performing him I just have to wonder if Homer is what he is and is just going to be a 4/5 type of guy in your staff who will every so often have a great game surrounded by average to sub average games...

I think for the most part, yes. He is what he is. I'm not mad about it, though. You gotta have five starters. At 26 and with as much experience in the big leagues as he has, he's probably not going to ever become a 1 or 2 guy. He could have a couple of 1 or 2 type seasons, but he's probably going to stick at this point as a back-end guy.

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:54 PM
Leadoff double by Grienke

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:54 PM
Greinke ripped that one. He ripped one just foul down the line in his first at-bat.

Falcon7
06-27-2012, 01:55 PM
Don't stick up the glove it might fall in it.

Homer needs to take a seat. NOW!

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:55 PM
Simon warming up

texasdave
06-27-2012, 01:55 PM
Twelve hits in the game. Seven for extra bases.

RedsFanInBama
06-27-2012, 01:55 PM
:censored:

Larkin88
06-27-2012, 01:56 PM
Twelve hits in the game. Seven for extra bases.

Ugly, ugly, ugly.

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 01:56 PM
Not a huge fan of Bruce's effort on that play.....not sure he could've caught it but that's a play you go for and get a little wall action.

brm7675
06-27-2012, 01:56 PM
I hear Dioner Navarro calls a nice game.

He is heading to the AAA All Star game for Louisville...

mrherd05
06-27-2012, 01:56 PM
Homer has a 4.2 ERA in this park, has 14 starts, with 10 being quality starts and you want to ship him away.

Shaking my head at some of you people.

moewan
06-27-2012, 01:57 PM
Go get him dusty

malcontent
06-27-2012, 01:57 PM
Bailey's body language screams: "I'd be an ace at PETCO".

brm7675
06-27-2012, 01:58 PM
Homer has a 4.2 ERA in this park, has 14 starts, with 10 being quality starts and you want to ship him away.

Shaking my head at some of you people.

If we could get a quality return for Homer, then yes of the 5 pitchers in the Reds rotation right now, I would pick Homer as the one I would be willing to offer up to "ship away" if we got something we needed in return.

Larkin88
06-27-2012, 01:58 PM
Just seems like vintage Homer out there today. Certainly not the pitcher we saw up through May this season.

RedsFanInBama
06-27-2012, 01:59 PM
We really need to hold them here. Simon needs to get us back to the dugout with 0 or 1 run crossing and we've still got a chance.

Stray
06-27-2012, 01:59 PM
Couldn't even get through 5, hate to see that before a brutal west coast trip

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:00 PM
That was a painful outing today. Hopefully Simon gives them some innings, with the west coast coming up.

Todd Gack
06-27-2012, 02:01 PM
Not a huge fan of Bruce's effort on that play.....not sure he could've caught it but that's a play you go for and get a little wall action.

I was thinking the same thing. Overall, I think Jay gets lazy sometimes. He has a GREAT arm, but he just makes too many mistakes for me. I think he's overrated, defensively, IMHO.

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:01 PM
Morgan's having a real bad day today

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:01 PM
Couldn't even get through 5, hate to see that before a brutal west coast trip

Bullpen should be well-rested. A lot of pitchers haven't thrown in five days. What only Chapman and Marshall?

Cueto and Latos complete games. Leake went eight. Arroyo pitched in to the eighth.

Falcon7
06-27-2012, 02:01 PM
Not a huge fan of Bruce's effort on that play.....not sure he could've caught it but that's a play you go for and get a little wall action.

Exactly! I've always told my kid, you will surprise yourself, because you will snag some of those. Plus what does it hurt...

TSJ55
06-27-2012, 02:01 PM
Morgan's having a real bad day today

I love it

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:02 PM
Mes lasers Aoki at third.

TSJ55
06-27-2012, 02:02 PM
Mez! Again

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:02 PM
Mesaraco showing off his arm

Stray
06-27-2012, 02:02 PM
Bullpen should be well-rested. A lot of pitchers haven't thrown in five days. What only Chapman and Marshall?

Cueto and Latos complete games. Leake went eight. Arroyo pitched in to the eighth.

Yea true, didn't realize how long it's been for some of those guys.

Todd Gack
06-27-2012, 02:02 PM
Couldn't even get through 5, hate to see that before a brutal west coast trip

We play in some rather notorious pitchers ballparks out there. I'm not too concerned.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:04 PM
Simon put that fire out in short order.

RedsFanInBama
06-27-2012, 02:04 PM
Nice job Simon.

Stray
06-27-2012, 02:04 PM
What a great pickup he's turned out to be.

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:04 PM
Men's saved at least one run that inning

malcontent
06-27-2012, 02:05 PM
What a great pickup he's turned out to be.
Yep.

I'm not sure he couldn't do a fine job in the rotation. He's got a starter's repertoire of pitches.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:06 PM
Top of the order. Let's get something started here.

malcontent
06-27-2012, 02:08 PM
Cozart nothing if not eager.

TSJ55
06-27-2012, 02:08 PM
Cozart nothing if not eager.

Yeah, you gotta think he's pressing pretty hard

Larkin88
06-27-2012, 02:09 PM
Cozart nothing if not eager.

Wouldn't have hated seeing him get a day off. I absolutely love Cozart and am excited to have him as a part of the Reds equation. His scuffling lately can't be ignored, though. Wonder if a day away would have helped him before this long road trip.

RedsFanInBama
06-27-2012, 02:10 PM
Cozart and Heisey rarely let a pitch go by close to the strike zone without taking a hack.

Larkin88
06-27-2012, 02:12 PM
Well, the good news is Greinke's pitch count is up there. Hopefully we can chase him after next inning.

Red Raindog
06-27-2012, 02:15 PM
Well, the good news is Greinke's pitch count is up there. Hopefully we can chase him after next inning.

Bad news is Cairo in BP out

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:15 PM
Cairo in at second for Phillips

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 02:15 PM
Phillips out?

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 02:15 PM
Still a game....something wrong with BP.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:16 PM
I wonder if he broke his nose?

malcontent
06-27-2012, 02:16 PM
Odds of comeback just took a hit.

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:16 PM
Phillips get a broken nose?

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 02:16 PM
Brandon feeling bad.

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 02:17 PM
Phillips get a broken nose?

Doubt...but don't know.

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:17 PM
Simon looking good

malcontent
06-27-2012, 02:20 PM
I wonder if the Twins are still desperate for a starter.

Revere would be a nice pickup.

TSJ55
06-27-2012, 02:21 PM
That's a brutal stat on Joey

Larkin88
06-27-2012, 02:21 PM
I wonder if the Twins are still desperate for a starter.

Revere would be a nice pickup.

I don't disagree he'd be a nice pickup. I still think if we move a starter without a good plan to replace him, we'd end up the desperate ones, though.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:22 PM
I don't foresee any major changes in this team. Maybe a bench player change.

Red Raindog
06-27-2012, 02:23 PM
Interesting discussion about how often Votto has hit with no one OB by the TV guys -- didn't they get the news that runners clog the bases?

malcontent
06-27-2012, 02:24 PM
I don't foresee any major changes in this team. Maybe a bench player change.
That's what I'm afraid of.

But I think a Cardinal surge is going to force a move or two.

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 02:25 PM
That's a brutal stat on Joey

What's brutal is Thom and math.

RedsFanInBama
06-27-2012, 02:25 PM
But I think a Cardinal surge is going to force a move or two.

Not with two wild card spots this season.

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:25 PM
What's brutal is Thom and math.

:lol:

malcontent
06-27-2012, 02:26 PM
I don't disagree he'd be a nice pickup. I still think if we move a starter without a good plan to replace him, we'd end up the desperate ones, though.
Could be.

malcontent
06-27-2012, 02:27 PM
Not with two wild card spots this season.
But you know that second WC is no gimme.

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:28 PM
What's brutal is Thom and math.

Chris just told him he's getting closer to doing math in public:laugh:

Red Raindog
06-27-2012, 02:28 PM
What's brutal is Thom and math.

Can we agree that the 1 & 2 hole hitters have not done the job most of this season?

RedsFanInBama
06-27-2012, 02:29 PM
But you know that second WC is no gimme.

Neither is. The two wild card spots have to play each other to have the right to play in the divisional series. Winning your division is more important than ever. However, I think the fact that more teams will be "alive" in the race will make teams less likely to feel like they HAVE to make a move.

malcontent
06-27-2012, 02:30 PM
Can we agree that the 1 & 2 hole hitters have not done the job most of this season?
I would concur with that.

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 02:30 PM
Jesus Thom....we know the OB% of the guys in front of Votto sucks...we get it...we said it 2 months ago.

Pujols, Dunn, Bautista have had fewer runners on our of the 3 hole....Dunn has more RBI hitting .212 and I think Bautista has more hitting .230...what's that about?

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:30 PM
Trouble Brewering.

Red Raindog
06-27-2012, 02:30 PM
Nice -- ump blows foul tip call -- then he golfs one in the corner

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:31 PM
Greinke out. Nice.

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:31 PM
Neither is. The two wild card spots have to play each other to have the right to play in the divisional series. Winning your division is more important than ever. However, I think the fact that more teams will be "alive" in the race will make teams less likely to feel like they HAVE to make a move.

Agreed there won't be many sellers at the deadline

Red Raindog
06-27-2012, 02:31 PM
Jesus Thom....we know the OB% of the guys in front of Votto sucks...we get it...we said it 2 months ago.

Pujols, Dunn, Bautista have had fewer runners on our of the 3 hole....Dunn has more RBI hitting .212 and I think Bautista has more hitting .230...what's that about?

Vooto's walks in that position might be a factor --

malcontent
06-27-2012, 02:31 PM
I'd hate to see Alfredo's ERA approach Chapman levels.

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:32 PM
Bill Bray coming on

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 02:34 PM
And Dunn just hit an opposite field HR off the facing of the second deck in Minnesota! 24 HR, 56 RBI, fewer runners on base than most middle guys, hitting .210 with 7,194 strikeouts.

Sounds pretty productive.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:34 PM
Okay. Get these lefties.

Falcon7
06-27-2012, 02:34 PM
No faith in Bray here.

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 02:34 PM
Vooto's walks in that position might be a factor --

Dunn is also leading his league in walks.

Red Raindog
06-27-2012, 02:35 PM
Bill Bray coming on

I'm not a Bray fan.

Stray
06-27-2012, 02:35 PM
Bill Bray isn't proving to be more valuable to our pen than Hoover was.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:35 PM
Shaking my head. Bases drunk with Brewers.

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:35 PM
4 pitch walk bases juiced

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 02:36 PM
Game on the line Bill....please be of worth

Red Raindog
06-27-2012, 02:36 PM
Dunn is also leading his league in walks.

didn't know that --- would be interesting to see how many walks they both got when runners were on but I'm too lazy & don't care THAT much --

:)

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 02:36 PM
Shaking my head. Bases drunk with Brewers.

Nice

:beeryou:

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:36 PM
This could get real ugly

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:38 PM
Big K.

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:38 PM
Nice, 2 more

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:39 PM
Look at all the people in the baselines. Defenders. Umps. Baserunners.

RedsFanInBama
06-27-2012, 02:39 PM
Pull em through, guys. I'm headed to the golf course. -- Speaking of which, why do all my activities (following the Reds, golfing) make me want to curse?

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 02:39 PM
didn't know that --- would be interesting to see how many walks they both got when runners were on but I'm too lazy & don't care THAT much --

:)

Me too lol. Votto gets walked any time it's important.....Dunn racks them up by hitting silly long HR then they pitch around him almost in fear of getting highlighted. Last year Dunn had the worst season in MLB history hitting .159 with 199 K.....and he still walked 75 times!

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:40 PM
I was worried they were gonna pull a Mesoraco and jump into a Red.

TSJ55
06-27-2012, 02:40 PM
Yet ANOTHER great play by Morgan. Have day kid!

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:40 PM
Brewers run into an out, Morgans struggles continue

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 02:40 PM
Jesus that was stupidly awful.

Nyjer has sucked all day....hoping it continues.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:41 PM
Tony Hush helping out the home team.

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:41 PM
That was huge, let's score some runs

Red Raindog
06-27-2012, 02:41 PM
Look at all the people in the baselines. Defenders. Umps. Baserunners.

I thought I was in the way for a second!

Stray
06-27-2012, 02:41 PM
Man the Brewers have Cubbed their way out of some big innings today.

Falcon7
06-27-2012, 02:41 PM
Pefect pitch by Bray on the bunt attempt! Man he's good...

MrRedLegger
06-27-2012, 02:42 PM
I'm at work without MLB TV or MLB at bat. watching on game cast....on my phone This is driving me nuts!!!!

Red Raindog
06-27-2012, 02:42 PM
Pull em through, guys. I'm headed to the golf course. -- Speaking of which, why do all my activities (following the Reds, golfing) make me want to curse?

Get up early -- I played 27 before the game started

Ironman92
06-27-2012, 02:43 PM
Trying a suicide against Bray is dumb...he's so herky-jerky and that pitch was unintentionally 20 inches off the plate. Nyjer has to one hand that bat to reach it...but didn't think quickly enough.

Brewers have been abysmal on the bases....still a game.

RedsFanInBama
06-27-2012, 02:43 PM
Get up early -- I played 27 before the game started

Would have been the better time to go, but I had to work a little this morning. It's hot out there today. Oh well, I'll grab a few beers and make it better.

malcontent
06-27-2012, 02:43 PM
I've been trying to trade Bailey for at least two/three years now (call me Walter).

It's getting to the point where I fear he's going to be like Larkin and retire a Red.

The next day he gets inducted into the Reds HOF with an 85-88 career record.

Falcon7
06-27-2012, 02:44 PM
I'm at work without MLB TV or MLB at bat. watching on game cast....on my phone This is driving me nuts!!!!

Getting paid to watch baseball, sounds pretty good to me. Are you drinking also? :lol:

Red Raindog
06-27-2012, 02:45 PM
Would have been the better time to go, but I had to work a little this morning. It's hot out there today. Oh well, I'll grab a few beers and make it better.

91 here -- 101 on Thursday

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:46 PM
Cain catch against the Reds. Maybe. LOL.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11543775

Stray
06-27-2012, 02:46 PM
I wish we had a count on the amount of bats Mes has broken this year. That's gotta be quite expensive.

Red Raindog
06-27-2012, 02:46 PM
Would have been the better time to go, but I had to work a little this morning. It's hot out there today. Oh well, I'll grab a few beers and make it better.

No excuses -- I had to do payroll -- got up at 6:00 AM for that

BluegrassRedleg
06-27-2012, 02:46 PM
TAKE. A. PITCH.

Christ.

RedsFanInBama
06-27-2012, 02:48 PM
No excuses -- I had to do payroll -- got up at 6:00 AM for that

Haha. Got me beat. Probably shot a hell of a lot better than I'm going to also.

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:49 PM
I wish we had a count on the amount of bats Mes has broken this year. That's gotta be quite expensive.

Do they pay for their bats?

TSJ55
06-27-2012, 02:50 PM
Haha. Got me beat. Probably shot a hell of a lot better than I'm going to also.

I prefer the heat to be honest. Love my KY, OH, IN summers.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:50 PM
Do they pay for their bats?

I have to think the club pays for them.

Stray
06-27-2012, 02:50 PM
Do they pay for their bats?

That's a good question, I have no idea.

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:52 PM
That's a good question, I have no idea.

I thought they were donated, so Louisville Slugger can sell the "player models" to us unwashed masses.

texasdave
06-27-2012, 02:53 PM
I thought they were donated, so Louisville Slugger can sell the "player models" to us unwashed masses.

This seems more like it. The companies give the player's their stuff for the promo value.

Falcon7
06-27-2012, 02:53 PM
TAKE. A. PITCH.

Christ.


Do you think it would really matter.

Stubbs, Bruce & Ludwicks HR's were all 1st pitches, the last few games.

Red Raindog
06-27-2012, 02:54 PM
Logan with a great inning

moewan
06-27-2012, 02:54 PM
Top of the order lets get something going.

Red Raindog
06-27-2012, 02:56 PM
Haha. Got me beat. Probably shot a hell of a lot better than I'm going to also.

I played OK but those sandbaggers got my money

shot an 80 & a 38 but giving too many strokes

don't worry -- our stakes are quarters!

Falcon7
06-27-2012, 02:56 PM
Top of the order lets get something going.

Cozart is clueless right now!