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powersackers
06-27-2012, 05:02 PM
If I was that fan in the ninth inning Nyjer Morgan wouldn't be leaving Cincy on the team plane today, he'd be in booking downtown.

He physically and verbally assaulted a fan who was clearly in his seat and not reaching onto the field. Exactly the opposite.

Unacceptable move from an unacceptable player.
Video
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=22633469&topic_id=&c_id=mlb&v=3&tcid=tw_video_22633469

hebroncougar
06-27-2012, 05:03 PM
I think he gets suspended out of this deal. Certainly deserved.

dougdirt
06-27-2012, 05:06 PM
I missed this.... can someone explain in more detail what happened?

hebroncougar
06-27-2012, 05:08 PM
Morgan was playing RF, and went into the stands after a ball. Fan caught ball against his chest, leaning back. I can't remember if it was first or second row. Clearly not in the field of play. Not even close. Morgan shoved the fan with his glove and started to jaw with him. Fan jawed right back.

Tom Servo
06-27-2012, 05:08 PM
I missed this.... can someone explain in more detail what happened?
Flyball heading towards the stands, fan reaches for ball while Morgan reaches as well. Morgan doesn't get the ball. Morgan stares at the fan and gives him a glove to the to the upper body/lower head region. Not with a lot of force, but completely unnecessary and uncalled for. Fan doesn't back down either.

hebroncougar
06-27-2012, 05:10 PM
Flyball heading towards the stands, fan reaches for ball while Morgan reaches as well. Morgan doesn't get the ball. Morgan stares at the fan and gives him a glove to the to the upper body/lower head region. Not with a lot of force, but completely unnecessary and uncalled for. Fan doesn't back down either.

Did it clearly look to you, as it did to me, the ball was well, well out of the field of play?

Tom Servo
06-27-2012, 05:11 PM
Did it clearly look to you, as it did to me, the ball was well, well out of the field of play?
The fan certainly didn't reach over the wall, it was in the stands.

powersackers
06-27-2012, 05:12 PM
Well out of play yes. Full row deep.

This is getting some Twitter traction...

https://twitter.com/#!/search/nyjer%20morgan
and
https://twitter.com/#!/search/%40TheRealTPlush
Some are hilarious.

klw
06-27-2012, 05:22 PM
Here's the video
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=22633469&topic_id=9780550&c_id=mlb

RedFanAlways1966
06-27-2012, 05:27 PM
Hmmm. Some may remember Pete Rose getting a 30 day suspension for pushing an umpire. How many days do you get for purposely hitting a paying MLB customer with your glove? Neither are acceptable, but one paid money to see the game and those types are kinda important to the game.

I'll wait to see the video before giving my verdict, but this is not good. You cannot touch a fan in that manner. A big no-no (on this continent).

traderumor
06-27-2012, 05:35 PM
Pretty much typical Morgan. Not sure that is "assault" though. Suspendable? Yes. Lawsuit? Call Kevin Kurgis. If you don't get paid, he don't get paid.

powersackers
06-27-2012, 05:42 PM
Pretty much typical Morgan. Not sure that is "assault" though. Suspendable? Yes. Lawsuit? Call Kevin Kurgis. If you don't get paid, he don't get paid.

No lawsuit. That'd be frivilous. But filing assualt charges is not the same thing. There's no doubt getting hit in the face with a fist/glove intentionally with anger is assualt.

Superdude
06-27-2012, 05:48 PM
Nyjer Morgan is a complete joke. Baseball will be a better game when he retires.

reds44
06-27-2012, 05:52 PM
Assaulted? Really? No.

Vottomatic
06-27-2012, 06:07 PM
Well. Just saw it for the first time, and other than Morgan acting like a punk (as usual), I think "assault" is a huge exaggeration. His glove was against the fan trying to catch the ball just like the fan was. As he pulled away, sure, he gave a little more shove, but it wasn't much. Obvious frustration, but nothing more. The jawing was more unwarranted and may get him a slap on the wrist from the commissioner to scare off any future moments like this one.

Crumbley
06-27-2012, 06:08 PM
Not much of an assault. No don't put your hands on a fan though, MLB needs to sit him down for awhile.

powersackers
06-27-2012, 06:11 PM
Assaulted? Really? No.

Watch the video at exactly 28 seconds. He wasn't tangled up with the guy. He was mad and he did what he did. Call it what you want. I call it assault. Really.

Johnny Footstool
06-27-2012, 06:39 PM
It's a sad commentary on society when a slight bump resulting in no physical harm immediately gets labeled "assault."

westofyou
06-27-2012, 06:43 PM
It's a sad commentary on society when a slight bump resulting in no physical harm immediately gets labeled "assault."

We are a society of victims... except those dudes in the Viagra commercials, they got it under control.

pedro
06-27-2012, 06:53 PM
It's a sad commentary on society when a slight bump resulting in no physical harm immediately gets labeled "assault."

I'm with you.

Morgan may have reacted an little gruffly but I don;t think what happened was any big deal. They got tangled up and he gave a little push when he jerked his arm away. Hardly a capital offense

RedlegJake
06-27-2012, 06:55 PM
yeah - the guy is a jerk and his actions proved it but I don't call it an assault

cumberlandreds
06-27-2012, 07:02 PM
Assault? I didn't see anything like that. Doesn't look like a big deal to me. It will probably be forgotten quickly if Morgan and the fan just keep quiet and don't a big deal of it.

757690
06-27-2012, 07:12 PM
At least he didn't do any somersaults ;)

The Operator
06-27-2012, 07:20 PM
It doesn't look like assault to me, but it's still not good. The fan did not reach into the field of play, and he had every right to try for that ball because it was in the stands. For Morgan to push him (I don't think it was assault, still uncalled for though) and then continue yelling and jawing with the guy is absolutely ridiculous.

Not that any of this is surprising from Nyjer Morgan. He's been one of the biggest punks in the game for a few years now. Kudos to the fan for not backing down either.

Brutus
06-27-2012, 07:21 PM
That's not assault. There was absolutely no intent to harm, nor would anyone have been hurt by that love tap.

Morgan acted like a child, for sure, but that's a weak argument for assault IMHO.

BCubb2003
06-27-2012, 07:31 PM
Not exactly Ty Cobb. Just dumber than what Chapman did.

Superdude
06-27-2012, 07:39 PM
"Nothing major. Everybody might blow it up a little differently. But just one of those plays where I thought I could have had the ball, and their fans are helping out their team."

Pretty sure it's not a normal human instinct to sit passively in the line of a fly ball hoping an outfielder reaches out and saves you. No one was helping out any team there. I understand the heat of the moment, but you would think he'd realize the other perspective at some point.

Crumbley
06-27-2012, 08:01 PM
I love fans making it hard for the other guys to get fouls though. Always face palm when everyone runs away from the ball and gives them a ton of space. Unless it's a Red going for the ball of course.

WMR
06-27-2012, 08:03 PM
Assault is the wrong term, Nyjer committed simple battery.


At common law, simple battery is a misdemeanor. The prosecutor must prove all three elements beyond a reasonable doubt:

an unlawful application of force
to the person of another
resulting in either bodily injury or an offensive touching.

Simple battery may include any form of non-consensual harmful or insulting contact, regardless of the injury caused. Criminal battery requires an intent to inflict an injury on another, as distinguished from a tortious battery.

powersackers
06-27-2012, 08:44 PM
Assault is the wrong term, Nyjer committed simple battery.

Thanks. Battery I can agree with. I don't want to blow it out if proportion. Its just the disrespect for the customer that burns me most and Nyjer needs to realize it. Cardinals RF Tyoshi Shinjo once flipped the bird to the moon deck one night when I was sitting there with my kids. I didn't appreciate that either. Maybe I am just over sensitive to players disrespecting fans.

alloverjr
06-27-2012, 08:58 PM
Guilty of being an immature 3 year old maybe with the jawing, but really nothing there. With the build up I was reading before I saw the replay, you would have thought he drew back and landed an elbow into his jaw. I would be suprised if he gets any kind of fine/suspension out of that - at least from MLB (Brewers as an org may see it differently). Hey, let's see Chapman top THAT!

kaldaniels
06-27-2012, 09:09 PM
Both guys were going after the ball which caused the contact. They were tangled for a bit and then Nyjer does shove the guy off with his glove. Not to harm, but more as a "get your paws off me" shove. Now I know Morgan's shove was uneccessary, but the fan kinda pinned Nyjer's glove in the bend of his arm for a second, hence the (harmless) jab a moment later. Simply the results of 2 young males coming into accidental physical contact going after a valuable (for different reasons) object. Hardly assault in my book...and I sure don't like the kneejerk thread title accusing a player of such.

Having said that I applaud the fan's actions and this only strengthens the case that Morgan is a punk.

RedsManRick
06-27-2012, 09:36 PM
That was a shove out of frustration by a relatively immature guy. There was absolutely no intent (result) of harm. Maybe he gets a 1 game suspension or $10,000 fine or something on that magnitude as a slap on the wrist, but certainly nothing more than that.

REDblooded
06-27-2012, 09:56 PM
Both guys were going after the ball which caused the contact. They were tangled for a bit and then Nyjer does shove the guy off with his glove. Not to harm, but more as a "get your paws off me" shove. Now I know Morgan's shove was uneccessary, but the fan kinda pinned Nyjer's glove in the bend of his arm for a second, hence the (harmless) jab a moment later. Simply the results of 2 young males coming into accidental physical contact going after a valuable (for different reasons) object. Hardly assault in my book...and I sure don't like the kneejerk thread title accusing a player of such.

Having said that I applaud the fan's actions and this only strengthens the case that Morgan is a punk.

Pretty much spot-on...

Nyjer regressed to his true form (he's a b-word), but wasn't malicious in his physical behavior... The fan stood his ground appropriately.

Not a lot to see here, but there probably will be minor financial or sit-your-butt-on-the-bench'ial repercussions for Morgan.

Too bad the Cubs are so crappy. The Reds are on their way to developing heated rivalries with pretty much all of their Central opponents...

PuffyPig
06-27-2012, 10:02 PM
No lawsuit. That'd be frivilous. But filing assualt charges is not the same thing. There's no doubt getting hit in the face with a fist/glove intentionally with anger is assualt.

If Morgan is guilty of battery there would be nothing frivilous about a civil claim.

BTW, assualt is the threat of violence, not the violence itself.

REDblooded
06-27-2012, 10:07 PM
If Morgan is guilty of battery there would be nothing frivilous about a civil claim.

BTW, assualt is the threat of violence, not the violence itself.

Anybody wishing to file assault charges on this case needs to report to me immediately... And wish your family goodbye. I'm deporting you to Europe where you will be forced to become a full-fledged soccer fan...

Enjoy stoppage time and penalty kicks!

Edskin
06-28-2012, 12:58 AM
When I HEARD this today I was thinking big time suspension---maybe even the rest of the year. When I SAW it, I think it's pretty tame. Looks to me like the fan sort of inadvertently gets tangled with his glove and Morgan just kind of pulls it back and gives him an unnecessary, but very minor shove along the way. It's weird because we all know a ball in the stands is fair game (although I can think of a guy wearing headphones at a Cubs game a few years back who may not agree :)).

PuffyPig
06-28-2012, 01:05 AM
When I HEARD this today I was thinking big time suspension---maybe even the rest of the year. When I SAW it, I think it's pretty tame. Looks to me like the fan sort of inadvertently gets tangled with his glove and Morgan just kind of pulls it back and gives him an unnecessary, but very minor shove along the way. It's weird because we all know a ball in the stands is fair game (although I can think of a guy wearing headphones at a Cubs game a few years back who may not agree :)).

Big difference when a Cubs fan prevents a Cubs player from catching the ball.

powersackers
06-28-2012, 02:03 AM
Both guys were going after the ball which caused the contact. They were tangled for a bit and then Nyjer does shove the guy off with his glove. Not to harm, but more as a "get your paws off me" shove. Now I know Morgan's shove was uneccessary, but the fan kinda pinned Nyjer's glove in the bend of his arm for a second, hence the (harmless) jab a moment later. Simply the results of 2 young males coming into accidental physical contact going after a valuable (for different reasons) object. Hardly assault in my book...and I sure don't like the kneejerk thread title accusing a player of such.

Having said that I applaud the fan's actions and this only strengthens the case that Morgan is a punk.

The knee jerk thread title is in reference to Adam Sanders movie Billy Madison.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUfGkEjuphE

Meant in jest. And I admitted to being sensitive to players not respecting the fans that pay them... sorry you don't like my thread title.

alexad
06-28-2012, 02:09 AM
Sue Morgan. Go for it. Take it for what it is worth. The guy makes millions. Go for it. He is lucky the fan wasn't drunk or he may have jumped out of the stands and opened a Can of Whoop A...

alexad
06-28-2012, 02:10 AM
I think the Brewers owe him am apology and a free trip to M-Walkee the next time the Reds are there. And an autographed baseball from Morgan.

kaldaniels
06-28-2012, 02:24 AM
The knee jerk thread title is in reference to Adam Sanders movie Billy Madison.

That's assault brothaaa! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUfGkEjuphE)

Meant in jest. And I admitted to being sensitive to players not respecting the fans that pay them... sorry you don't like my thread title.

Fair enough. I'd just rather this thread be about what a punk Morgan is rather than a debate of whether it was legally assault. :D

Vottomatic
06-28-2012, 12:05 PM
No wonder his nickname is Nyjerk Morgan. :D

Roy Tucker
06-28-2012, 05:35 PM
Worthy of a technical foul, but that's about all.

camisadelgolf
01-15-2013, 04:42 AM
This guy cracks me up. I hate to spread stupid stuff like this, but he's just amazing.
http://deadspin.com/5975967/nyjer-morgan-got-caught-cheating-on-his-girlfriend-according-to-nyjer-morgans-twitter-account

Nyjer Morgan - T Dot@TheRealTPlush
I did something horrible today nation I cheated on my girlfriend I ruined her life and I will pay the price for this I loved her but was bad

Nyjer Morgan - T Dot@TheRealTPlush
What's good nation? NEWS ALERT! My account was hacked! I'm in the process of changing all my info and starting a new account! AAAAHHHH!

RedEye
01-15-2013, 12:33 PM
This guy cracks me up. I hate to spread stupid stuff like this, but he's just amazing.
http://deadspin.com/5975967/nyjer-morgan-got-caught-cheating-on-his-girlfriend-according-to-nyjer-morgans-twitter-account

His account was hacked? I think that is what Anthony Weiner said happened at first too...

Redsfan320
01-24-2013, 10:56 AM
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/01/baystars-sign-nyjer-morgan.html

Another bump... as Morgan is gone to Japan. Good riddance.

320

Crumbley
01-24-2013, 12:03 PM
T-Plush is going to end up abandoning the team and hitching on with the professional Tekken scene.