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The Voice of IH
06-28-2012, 02:33 PM
Here we are.

Heading into the All-Star break our Cincinnati Reds have to undergo what is traditionally the toughest stretch of the schedule. For whatever reasons there maybe.

The Reds have four against San Francisco, Three against LA and then four more against San Diego.

Our Redlegs already put the Giants away at home earlier in the season, beating them three games to one (should have been a sweep). However, the Giants were not playing great (neither were the Reds) and most of the games were close.

How do you see the Reds doing in their sprint to the All-Star Break?

oneupper
06-28-2012, 02:54 PM
You didn't put zero as an option.

westofyou
06-28-2012, 03:11 PM
I'll be at all the SF games

OesterPoster
06-28-2012, 03:13 PM
I'll take a 5-6 road trip, so anything on top of that is gravy.

I think they split with SF, take 1 in LA, and take 3 of 4 in San Diego for a 6-5 trip.

mdccclxix
06-28-2012, 03:27 PM
I want 9-10 from those SOB's out there, but will settle for 7-8. Heck I'll give the Pads 3 if I can get 6 from the Giants and Dodgers. I want the Reds to show up and kick some azz out there.

The Voice of IH
06-28-2012, 03:38 PM
You didn't put zero as an option.

10 has a zero on it.

mdccclxix
06-28-2012, 03:39 PM
I'll be at all the SF games

Wear some garlic around your neck and locate fellow Reds fans for safety.

Nice stadium, if not quite overrated IMO.

It may be up to you to defend Dusty's honor, if you choose to accept the calling.

Do not use Barry Bonds name in vein.

21st Amendment Brewery is nearby and good.

_Sir_Charles_
06-28-2012, 04:14 PM
9-2

Bruce is just ready to bust out. He's been scorching the ball lately with little to show for it.

redsmetz
06-28-2012, 04:23 PM
Not to quibble, but why would our wins be stolen?

The Voice of IH
06-28-2012, 04:37 PM
Not to quibble, but why would our wins be stolen?

Teams steal wins when playing away. It's an expression that some sports junkies use.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 05:16 PM
I think if they can come up even 5 wins this would not be a bad trip. West Coast trips are always challenging. Hopefully they can avoid the painful series going in the All Star Break they have had the last few years.

A couple of years ago they had a 4 game sweep at Philadelphia with 4 close losses before the break.

Then last year I think they played Milwaukee and lost 3 of 4 with Cordero blowing a couple of save opportunities.

So hopefully this year they can go into the break with a more positive ending to the first half.

westofyou
06-28-2012, 05:32 PM
Wear some garlic around your neck and locate fellow Reds fans for safety.

Nice stadium, if not quite overrated IMO.

It may be up to you to defend Dusty's honor, if you choose to accept the calling.

Do not use Barry Bonds name in vein.

21st Amendment Brewery is nearby and good.

This is my second home so I'm in a good space heading to the 21st in 2 hours

mdccclxix
06-28-2012, 05:36 PM
This is my second home so I'm in a good space heading to the 21st in 2 hours

Coolness.

cincrazy
06-28-2012, 06:13 PM
I think we find a way to take two of four from the Giants,take two of three from the slumping Dodgers, and take three of four from the Paders. 7-4 road trip. BOOM! POW! BAM!

VR
06-28-2012, 06:13 PM
I'll be at all the SF games

Enjoy! Unfortunately I'm not making it tonight, but currently looking across the bay at SF....perfect blue skies and 80 degrees, unreal for June!

westofyou
06-28-2012, 06:21 PM
Enjoy! Unfortunately I'm not making it tonight, but currently looking across the bay at SF....perfect blue skies and 80 degrees, unreal for June!

At BART now, look for me behind the dugout I'll be the white guy in fleece

DGullett35
06-28-2012, 07:09 PM
I say we will win 7. With Cueto pitching 3 times on this trip I like the chances of goin 7-4

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-29-2012, 12:16 AM
I'm going to revise. Their ace starting the road trip with a loss is a bad omen. They'll win four games in California and go into the All-Star break in third place.

In SF: 1-3 (though, where they get the one win is tough to see)
In LA: 1-2
In SD: 2-2

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:01 AM
1 win vs the Giants, 1 win vs the Dodgers, 2 vs the Padres. 4 wins total.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:11 AM
1 win vs the Giants, 1 win vs the Dodgers, 2 vs the Padres. 4 wins total.

Nah. 2-2 at SF, 1-2 at LA, and 3-1 at SD for a road trip of 6-5. Could be 5-6, but I'd even take that. If we go 4-7, we better have a great home record and go .500 on the road or else it's curtains for us. Those losses to Detroit and The Twinkies will haunt us until Spring Training.

Tom Servo
06-29-2012, 01:28 AM
good start WOY :bang:


;)

fearofpopvol1
06-29-2012, 02:33 AM
Wow, tonight was like the lost decade all over. 1 hit over 9 innings (a single) in San Fran. Don't get me wrong, San Fran has incredible pitching, but that was a pathetic performance tonight. It also soured me a bit on Frazier. That ball misjudgement was bad and was worth a run. Cueto wasn't amazing, but he was still good despite not having his best stuff. I just hope the other pitchers in the staff come up big.

mth123
06-29-2012, 06:35 AM
4-7.
They won't be pumping the offense with cheap HR out there and just don't get on base enough to score much otherwise.

mdccclxix
06-29-2012, 09:04 AM
Ya gotta drive the ball in these cavernous parks. If you loft a ball to land without a bounce at 350 feet, that's an easy out, not a home run like GABP. It takes a minute to get used to, which is harder when you are facing good pitching. I hope they start barreling the ball tonight. Frazier is one of the best at that, I hope he gets back out there in LF tonight.

lollipopcurve
06-29-2012, 09:10 AM
3-4 for me. Not enough guys swinging well right now.

smith288
06-29-2012, 09:29 AM
1-2

Have a really bad feeling.

mdccclxix
06-29-2012, 09:53 AM
1-2

Have a really bad feeling.

The world's going to end on Sunday?

CrackerJack
06-29-2012, 07:25 PM
The offense has been mostly MIA for the last 13 games, more of the norm right now than the exception it seems.

4-7 would be pretty encouraging.

mth123
06-29-2012, 09:17 PM
The offense has been mostly MIA for the last 13 games, more of the norm right now than the exception it seems.

4-7 would be pretty encouraging.

That's 4 wins and 7 losses, not 4 to 7 wins.

DGullett35
06-29-2012, 09:20 PM
At first I said we would win 7 of 11. However I think now 6-5 or 5-6 is more likely. The matchups we have this weekend seem to be good for us. Even if we only win 1 in SF, The Dodgers are playing about as bad as anyone right now. We need 2 of 3 there and we could easily take 3 of 4 in SD. That right there is 6 wins. I would be happy with a 5-6 trip. If we took 3 of 4 from SD at least we can say we had a nice series before the break. Seems like alot of our guys need a rest, I just hope we can finish strong here in the first half.

_Sir_Charles_
06-29-2012, 09:24 PM
At BART now, look for me behind the dugout I'll be the white guy in fleece

I've been trying to figure out BART for the past 2 days....the Giants' park is AT&T. No clue what BART is standing for.

DGullett35
06-29-2012, 09:26 PM
I've been trying to figure out BART for the past 2 days....the Giants' park is AT&T. No clue what BART is standing for.

me and you both. Dallas Latos mentioned something about BART on her Twitter acct.

757690
06-29-2012, 09:31 PM
Maybe we should change the poll question to:

Will the Reds score a run during this road trip ;)

_Sir_Charles_
06-29-2012, 09:33 PM
Bay Area Roids Territory? :O)

757690
06-29-2012, 09:34 PM
I've been trying to figure out BART for the past 2 days....the Giants' park is AT&T. No clue what BART is standing for.

Bay Area Rapid Transit

http://www.bart.gov/

_Sir_Charles_
06-29-2012, 09:34 PM
Ah. Thanks 757690. It's been bugging me.

VR
06-29-2012, 09:57 PM
I've been trying to figure out BART for the past 2 days....the Giants' park is AT&T. No clue what BART is standing for.

Beat Another Reds Team....it's their city motto apparently

DGullett35
07-01-2012, 08:33 PM
Even as dissapointing as today's loss was you still have to be somewhat happy with a split in SF. LA is playing horribly and were going to miss Kershaw which is good. We still have a reasonable shot at getting 7 wins on the trip. 2 out of 3 in LA is very attainable, and theres no reason why we shouldn't beat down SD and take 3 of 4. Id settle for 6 wins but 7 is very much in reach at this point as long as we keep getting great starting pitching.

vic715
07-01-2012, 10:06 PM
Today was still a very painful loss.Every opportunity was there and was blown every time.Bullpen is so skaky now I don't trust any of them.The bench has got to be fixed too.I wonder if it ever crosses Dustys mind to use Leake instead of Valdez in a key pinch hitting situation.

toledodan
07-01-2012, 10:38 PM
Even as dissapointing as today's loss was you still have to be somewhat happy with a split in SF. LA is playing horribly and were going to miss Kershaw which is good. We still have a reasonable shot at getting 7 wins on the trip. 2 out of 3 in LA is very attainable, and theres no reason why we shouldn't beat down SD and take 3 of 4. Id settle for 6 wins but 7 is very much in reach at this point as long as we keep getting great starting pitching.



i agree. today sucked, could have won even without votto. with the pitching they through at us a split was fine by me. with LA playing bad we need 2 of 3 and then 3 of 4 in san diego.

toledodan
07-01-2012, 10:41 PM
Today was still a very painful loss.Every opportunity was there and was blown every time.Bullpen is so skaky now I don't trust any of them.The bench has got to be fixed too.I wonder if it ever crosses Dustys mind to use Leake instead of Valdez in a key pinch hitting situation.


i agree! if the reds do anything at the trade deadline thats a must.

toledodan
07-01-2012, 10:42 PM
LA up 8-3. i hope they got their weeks worth of runs out of their system

PuffyPig
07-01-2012, 10:47 PM
Today was still a very painful loss.Every opportunity was there and was blown every time.Bullpen is so skaky now I don't trust any of them.The bench has got to be fixed too.I wonder if it ever crosses Dustys mind to use Leake instead of Valdez in a key pinch hitting situation.

I agree it was a painful loss, but it would have been an exceptionally painful loss for the Giants too.

The left an insurance runner at third with one out in the 8th. Other than Frazier's HR, we had zero offense through 8 innings.

Basically we blew one opportunity. It happens. To me, the blown opportunity was Ludwicks failure to score from second on Cairo's hit. It was in front of him, I'm not sure why he didn't score. He looked like he would have been easily safe.

Certainly our short bench was a factor, but nothIng you can do about that.

DGullett35
07-01-2012, 10:53 PM
If we would have had the lead going into the bottom half of the 9th I would have been more dissapointed. I agree our offense was non-existent until the 6th and even then we didn't muster too much. The loss to Detroit on Sunday night was the most painful loss of the year IMO. That one hurt the next day

PuffyPig
07-02-2012, 07:24 AM
A lot of Reds' supporters feared that the West coast trip might bury us in the standings.

Well, we are 4 games into it and our lead over the Cards has actually increased by half a game, as we went 2-2 with the Giants while the Cards went 1-2 vs. the Pirates.

So, 7 games to go, and the next 7 should be easier than the first 4.

If we go even 3-4, the Cards would have to go 6-1 to have a half game lead over us at the break.

Now, I realize that I haven't mentioned the Pirates, but I have less fear that they could or will bury us in the standings.

Hoosier Red
07-02-2012, 08:24 AM
Now, I realize that I haven't mentioned the Pirates, but I have less fear that they could or will bury us in the standings.

I tend to agree. If anything the big plus is that there really doesn't seem to be any team (other than maybe the Reds) which is likely to run off and hide.

Pittsburgh's going to be around all year, but even losing ground to them isn't the worst thing in the world as I really don't fear them going on a 10 game winning streak while the Reds go 4 and 6.

DGullett35
07-04-2012, 11:39 PM
After the Giants series things looked up. Now after 2 horrible games by the offense were looking at a trip gone bad if we don't turn things around. I say we win 3 of 4 in SD, and finish at 6-5. Im trying my hardest at being optomistic. At least after this trip Walt has to make a move for the top of the order right?

fearofpopvol1
07-04-2012, 11:41 PM
It's just like old times!

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 11:45 PM
No reason for the Reds to have lost a series to a scuffling Dodgers team who are missing Kemp and Ethier.

OldXOhio
07-05-2012, 12:12 AM
No reason for the Reds to have lost a series to a scuffling Dodgers team who are missing Kemp and Ethier.

And didn't throw Kershaw.

Reds/Flyers Fan
07-05-2012, 12:59 AM
After the Giants series things looked up. Now after 2 horrible games by the offense were looking at a trip gone bad if we don't turn things around. I say we win 3 of 4 in SD, and finish at 6-5. Im trying my hardest at being optomistic. At least after this trip Walt has to make a move for the top of the order right?

Riiiiiiiiiiight ...

Waiting on Walt to make a mid-season move is like waiting at the pier in New York for the Titanic to arrive.

Chip R
07-05-2012, 08:55 AM
The west coast: Where Reds bats go to die.

westofyou
07-05-2012, 09:49 AM
No reason for the Reds to have lost a series to a scuffling Dodgers team who are missing Kemp and Ethier.

Other than they are in first place and are a major league baseball team...

CarolinaRedleg
07-05-2012, 09:49 AM
Right about where I figured things would be at this point. Split with SF, drop 2 of 3 in Dodger (Reds' house of horrors). Now, let Mr. "Million Dollar Arm, Ten Cent Brain" Volquez walk half a dozen Reds tonight and we're back in business.

OesterPoster
07-05-2012, 09:55 AM
Right about where I figured things would be at this point. Split with SF, drop 2 of 3 in Dodger (Reds' house of horrors). Now, let Mr. "Million Dollar Arm, Ten Cent Brain" Volquez walk half a dozen Reds tonight and we're back in business.

Can we implement the old Dan O'Brien "take a strike" rule for tonight? :D

Roy Tucker
07-05-2012, 11:50 AM
Not having guys on base for Votto is just driving me nuts.

Put Stubbs at #8. I apreciate Dusty sticking with him, but he just isn't a top of the order hitter.

Put BP at leadoff and Cozart #2. Give Joey some RBI opportunities. Move Ludwig to cleanup. He's seeing the ball well. Frazier at #f gives some pop and OBP. Catcher at #7. Meseraco is showing grpwth at the plate and Hanigan is cooling but still decent.

Maximize your best hitter's chances for driving in runs.

reds44
07-05-2012, 12:01 PM
Here's an off the wall idea:
Cozart
Bruce
Votto
Phillips
Ludwick
Frazier
Catcher
Heisey/Stubbs

Or even (this won't happen):
Hanigan
Bruce
Votto
Phillips
Ludwick
Frazier
Cozart
Center Field

Really though, no matter what order you hit them, it's just shuffling deck chairs. This team needs an upgrade at CF and probably LF too.

RedlegJake
07-05-2012, 03:13 PM
The Reds better hope their pitching beats the Padres because their lineup has 2 players who play well in these west coast parks - Votto and Hanigan. The free swinging boom and miss style of the rest of these guys would fizzle like a bad firework out here. Look what it did to Ludwick. Pray for a couple runs somehow and great pitching.

PuffyPig
07-08-2012, 10:00 PM
Reds finish a decent west coast trip going 6-5, losing just 1/2 game to the Cards who finished a relatively easy 10 game home stand going just 6-4.

I think everyone here would have been delighted with such a result going in.

Only 25% predicted better.

Now, for those Pirates......

SirFelixCat
07-08-2012, 11:08 PM
Wife got it right. Good job! Hard to argue w/ 6-5 on the worst RT of the year, regardless of what we felt while going thru it!

HeatherC1212
07-08-2012, 11:36 PM
Yeah, it wasn't always a pretty road trip but I'll take it too. Enjoy the break Reds and be ready to kick some Cardinal behind this coming weekend! ;)

mth123
07-09-2012, 02:51 AM
6-5 on this trip bodes very well for the Reds. There were ups and downs, but that's a very good outcome.

fearofpopvol1
07-09-2012, 03:34 AM
It's a little bit of a bummer considering how close they were to winning several of those games, and I really had hoped for a 7-4 outcome, but it's hard to complain too much about 6-5.