Reds vs. Giants Thursday 6/28

[Who Dey Time]

Ace to start the road trip right.

Update...Phillips scratched. New lineup...

Cozart SS
Stubbs CF
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Bruce RF
Frazier LF
Cairo 2B
Hanigan C
Cueto P

[brm7675]

What do Frazier and Hanigan have to do to hit higher in the lineup? I mean really do they have to go 4-4 each night for say the next month before Dusty moves either up?

[KYRedLeg]

Love Frazier in left. Let's get off to a good start.

[Red Raindog]

Love Frazier in left. Let's get off to a good start.

would like him better hitting in the four hole with Cozart dropping down in the order & BP filling his spot -- but just getting him in the lineup is victory

[Who Dey Time]

Phillips might be scratched. Will take BP and grounders then decide.

[Red Raindog]

Phillips might be scratched. Will take BP and grounders then decide.

I missed what his issue is -- I know he got knocked around at 2B - but can you enlighten me?

[Who Dey Time]

I missed what his issue is -- I know he got knocked around at 2B - but can you enlighten me?

He was a bit woozy after the hit yesterday. Says he feels ok but not great.

[Red Raindog]

He was a bit woozy after the hit yesterday. Says he feels ok but not great.

Thanks

[Stray]

BP scratched and Cairo is in and hitting 7th. Rolen bumped up to cleanup...not a fan.

[Who Dey Time]

Phillips scratched. New lineup posted above.

[Ironman92]

Love Ludwick hitting 2 HR and then sitting. SMH

[Who Dey Time]

Love Ludwick hitting 2 HR and then sitting. SMH

As mentioned in another thread, Ludwick is 1-16 against Bumgarner.

[Falcon7]

The play that injured BP, looked like almost nothing. Too much concussion talk these days?

[texasdave]

Play ball.

[texasdave]

No avatars yet?

[bleedsred]

He was a bit woozy after the hit yesterday. Says he feels ok but not great.

Joe Morgan asks..."Do you know what a race is?""

Pete Rose says..."BP wouldn't walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball!"

[Falcon7]

Looking for a shade tree... Huh...

[texasdave]

Inauspicious start.

[BluegrassRedleg]

And here we go... :(

[bleedsred]

I really like Cozart, but he hasn't looked good for a few days now

[texasdave]

Geez. Is there a strike zone?

[BluegrassRedleg]

Who is this guy in Drew Stubbs' uniform??? :eek:

[Falcon7]

Stubbs walks... love it!

[Falcon7]

Who is this guy in Drew Stubbs' uniform??? :eek:

Not sure, but I like him.

[Tadasimha]

Steal 3rd!

[Tadasimha]

Thank you

[texasdave]

Stubbs stranded.

[Falcon7]

Well #4 hitter did not wiff.

[texasdave]

Why would Votto ever see a pitch to hit with Rolen on deck?

[Falcon7]

Why would Votto ever see a pitch to hit with Rolen on deck?

Pitcher screws up??

[texasdave]

Johnny B. Goode.

[texasdave]

Nice pick by Rolen.

[Falcon7]

Nice job you old fart!

[Ironman92]

Great catch by Rolen!

[Ironman92]

Jim Kelch and his 3 game hitting streak crap.....is this the crew the whole trip?

[Falcon7]

Nice job you old fart!

But still, a young man compared to me. Turned 59 this week, yea it sucks. :(

[Tadasimha]

But still, a young man compared to me. Turned 59 this week, yea it sucks. :(

I'm actually 7 years older than Rolen and I still think of him as old!

[Falcon7]

I'm actually 7 years older than Rolen and I still think of him as old!

Your just a pup.

[BluegrassRedleg]

FSN crew needs to show the pitch before Pagan's HR that RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE for strike 3 prior to that April 26 HR. Ruined my day at the Yard.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Another West Coast CLUSTER@#^% has officially begun.

[AintlifeGrande]

Get ready for a night of missed ball and strike calls.CB Bucknor behind the plate.

[Falcon7]

I really can't see us scoring a whole lot of runs tonight, so this already SUCKS!

[mrherd05]

Still have to ask, where did ball four on Cabrera miss at. Crap on a frickin stick.

[Tadasimha]

What a mess.

[Ironman92]

That play wore me out.

[AintlifeGrande]

Horrible,and with 2 outs.

[texasdave]

I hate the West Coast already and we are only one inning into it.

[Todd Gack]

Kay Bruce sure makes a lot of bad plays in RF for supposedly being such a good defensive RF.

[Falcon7]

I'm not saying a perfect throw would have got him, but Jay's throws to home SUCK!

[Red Raindog]

I may have to go to bed early or get drunk

[BluegrassRedleg]

WTH was Bruce doing with his approach to that ball??? At first, I didn't even think he was going to throw. Then he uncorks that one. Of course, no Cincinnati catcher since Bench has been able to handle OF throws home.

[Falcon7]

Kay Bruce sure makes a lot of bad plays in RF for supposedly being such a good defensive RF.

A lot of people on here think so, but IMO he is very very average.

Bad hop, my butt, Welsh quit making excuses!

[BluegrassRedleg]

Healthy Phillips fields that grounder. End of inning. Of course, he's not healthy.

[AintlifeGrande]

Good ole Jay Bruce and his Sean Casey-esq slow grounders to 2nd.

[texasdave]

Giants' pitchers have hurled three consecutive shutouts.

[BluegrassRedleg]

A lot of people on here think so, but IMO he is very very average,

He has been very good at times, but that was not one of his better moments.

[Todd Gack]

A lot of people on here think so, but IMO he is very very average.

Bad hop, my butt, Welsh quit making excuses!

Should be two errors: one for the throw and one for the decision

[Falcon7]

Healthy Phillips fields that grounder. End of inning. Of course, he's not healthy.

Is his nose a little sore? What exactly is his injury?

[texasdave]

Sandoval is their number six hitter? Crazy.

[mrherd05]

Another West Coast CLUSTER@#^% has officially begun.



Clearly you have NO CLUE what you are talking about...but nice try.

[Tadasimha]

Cueto started nibbling there in the 1st - can't do that with Buckner behind the plate.

[Todd Gack]

Kay is hitting .195 since beating NYY on May 20th

[texasdave]

That was the weakest swing I have ever seen by Cueto.

[Tadasimha]

Kay is hitting .195 since beating NYY on May 20th

Calling Jay Bruce "Kay"as an insult is pretty juvenile.

[texasdave]

Has there been a hard-hit ball off this guy yet?

[texasdave]

Smallish strike zone.

[mrherd05]

where are those pitches missing Buckner...come on man

[Falcon7]

Has there been a hard-hit ball off this guy yet?

No, not even a ball to the outfield.

[Tadasimha]

Footage of Speier playing short for the Giants back in the 70s.

[Tadasimha]

Leadoff walk for Stubbs.

Spent some time on the DL working on plate discipline, I see!

[AintlifeGrande]

Smallish strike zone.

The trademark of CB Bucknor.

[texasdave]

Stubbs walks. Gets picked off.

[Tadasimha]

Stubbs walks. Gets picked off.

He was safe.

[mrherd05]

headfirst slide and he is in there

[AintlifeGrande]

Safe.Horrible call.

[Falcon7]

He was safe.

I thought so.

[texasdave]

We got us a fly ball. Nice.

[Tadasimha]

We got us a fly ball. Nice.

3rd time through the order they'll be hammering him!

Maybe.

We can hope, right?

[Falcon7]

We got us a fly ball. Nice.

Yea, all the way to the outfield, maybe 225 Ft.

[Tadasimha]

6-4-3 here would be nice.

[texasdave]

Cueto picks another runner off.

[Tadasimha]

Cueto has a great move to 1st.

[Tadasimha]

6-4-3 here would be nice.

I repeat...be nice.

[Maker_84]

do the reds get no hit today?

[texasdave]

If you get on first just stand on the bag against Cueto.

[Ironman92]

headfirst slide and he is in there

Lol.....it's rare a baseball player can execute a head-first slide....you can watch all season and maybe see 2 or 3...oh wait

[Ironman92]

Yea, all the way to the outfield, maybe 225 Ft.

239

[Stray]

not looking good

[xsteve1]

do the reds get no hit today?

I'd say it's a pretty good possibility.

[Ironman92]

This Bumgarner was called up at 19 and threw over 200 innings last year at age 21....he's on pace for 220 at age 22....didn't know you were allowed to call up players that were young.

[Ironman92]

do the reds get no hit today?

7

[texasdave]

You get the Reds out of GABP where no-handed swings and pop flies leave the yard regularly and they struggle to score. Scoring 3.86 runs per game away from home.

[Stray]

Loving the new avatar texasdave, I could go for some Skyline right now.

[texasdave]

So could I.

[Stray]

Don't usually see emotion like that from Cueto

[BluegrassRedleg]

Mmmmmm.... Skyyyyyyyyline. (Homer voice)

[BluegrassRedleg]

You get the Reds out of GABP where no-handed swings and pop flies leave the yard regularly and they struggle to score. Scoring 3.86 runs per game away from home.

Preach it.

[texasdave]

Johnny 'Cobra' Cueto.

[texasdave]

Plunk.

[FloridaBuckeye]

I'm joining a little late, but thats ok ... love west coast trips!

[Stray]

that was almost a strike...

[Tadasimha]

Time to bear down, Johnny. Can't let any more runs in.

[Stray]

lets at least get a hit

[Stray]

there we go

oh and I wonder if Cueto will get buzzed inside

[texasdave]

Hanigan with a bouncer up the middle for a hit.

[Spider Tre]

and there goes the no-hitter

now lets make a dent in the run column

[texasdave]

Off the schneid please.

[Stray]

The ups and downs that you get with rookies.... There are times that Cozart hits everything hard, other times he looks lost.

[Stray]

backdoor slider ends the mini threat

[texasdave]

Oops. They gave him a hit on that?

[Stray]

that's routine for Phillips

[texasdave]

6-4-3. Just what the doctor ordered.

[Falcon7]

backdoor slider ends the mini threat

You mean micro.

[texasdave]

Cueto is a heady ballplayer.

[Redlegger13]

was the second run unearned?

[texasdave]

Yes. Only one earned run.

[texasdave]

Who bats Theriot second and Sandoval sixth? Crazy.

[Falcon7]

backdoor slider ends the mini threat

You mean micro.

[Spider Tre]

gahhh...

[texasdave]

That might be the ball game.

[Ironman92]

Well....Frazier is an infielder, hard habit to break.

[Stray]

That's a play a normal outfielder makes. He'll get better with more time out there.

[Ironman92]

Sandoval was up for 7 minutes and 30 seconds

[R_Webb18]

That's a play a normal outfielder makes. He'll get better with more time out there.

with his luck he prob wont play there again

[The Rage]

Cueto has the deadarm tonight. Guy is gassed. Ballpark has covered it up some.

[Falcon7]

Well....Frazier is an infielder, hard habit to break.

It really is about the hardest ball to judge for an outfielder.

[Stray]

blew him away

[Who Dey Time]

Cueto has the deadarm tonight. Guy is gassed. Ballpark has covered it up some.

LOL. First Bailey now Cueto. Nothing is wrong with either other than, in Bailey's case, some piss poor location.

[FloridaBuckeye]

Just need some runs... cant win with a 0 in that column

[Maker_84]

If we somehow avoid being swept in this series i'll call it a success

[Who Dey Time]

If we somehow avoid being swept in this series i'll call it a success

But you'll be disappointed.

[The Rage]

LOL. First Bailey now Cueto. Nothing is wrong with either other than, in Bailey's case, some piss poor location.

Wrong on all accounts. Bailey's velocity has dropped since May and his slider isn't biting as good. That is fatigue. Cueto's case he just came off a 120 pitch outing and is tired a bit.

Bailey's has been going on since June. Piss poor location my azz. Dude has nothing on his pitches.

[Stray]

Any of you guys have the mlb tv sub? I'm gonna be moving out of state and was wondering if it's possible to stream them with a ps3 or wifi tv, or if it's only computer streaming

[mrherd05]

Bad managing. You have two average left fielders. And you start an average at best hitting THIRD baseman in left on the road in a tricky park. Flipping genius.

[Falcon7]

Votto 0-2 a lot lately. Weak ground out.

[texasdave]

217 feet on that one.

[Who Dey Time]

Bad managing. You have two average left fielders. And you start an average at best hitting THIRD baseman in left on the road in a tricky park. Flipping genius.

There was nothing tricky about that play. He just botched it.

Hindsight is such a beautiful thing.

[The Rage]

The Reds are June swooning a bit. They did in 2010 as well before picking it back up.

[Redlegger13]

this giants staff is pretty unbelievable right now

[Falcon7]

Wow about 370?

[Ironman92]

There was nothing tricky about that play. He just botched it.

Hindsight is such a beautiful thing.

He didn't say the play was tricky.

[mrherd05]

Hindsight? There is no explanation for it. Why do we need three right handed hitting left fielders. It's stupid roster management

[texasdave]

Matt Cain tomorrow. Oh joy.

[The Rage]

Matt Cain tomorrow. Oh joy.

The Reds will probably beat him up.

[texasdave]

Hindsight? There is no explanation for it. Why do we need three right handed hitting left fielders. It's stupid roster management

Because Scotty Rolen must play.

[Redlegger13]

haha

[Who Dey Time]

Wrong on all accounts. Bailey's velocity has dropped since May and his slider isn't biting as good. That is fatigue. Cueto's case he just came off a 120 pitch outing and is tired a bit.

Bailey's has been going on since June. Piss poor location my azz. Dude has nothing on his pitches.

His velocity has remained consistent at 92-94 all season. When Bailey gets in trouble it has everything to do with his location, yesterday's start being a prime example. (see both HR's both up in the zone).

[Falcon7]

this giants staff is pretty unbelievable right now

4 in row looks like a sure thing tonight.
Plus we have maybe 3 consistent hitters on this team. 1 is sitting, 1 is in a slump & 1 has the only hit.

[Stray]

Team looks dead tonight, I'm sure this pitcher has a lot to do with that. Hopefully they'll be better tomorrow.

[Who Dey Time]

He didn't say the play was tricky.

He certainly insiuated that Frazier should not be playing LF tonight because it is a tricky outfield. What does that have to do with how he botched that fairly routine play? Nothing except to find an excuse to rip the lineup which is silly.

[The Rage]

His velocity has remained consistent at 92-94 all season. When Bailey gets in trouble it has everything to do with his location, yesterday's start being a prime example. (see both HR's both up in the zone).

Nope, was 93-96mph in May and his slider was far better. Since then he has been around 91-94mph and a dull slider.

Again Who, you have to understand, that is all it takes. To say Bailey has not pitched fatigued is rediculous. Not only has his velocity dipped a bit, but his movement has as well on all his pitches. He threw some nasty curves against the Yankees and Braves I am still waiting to see again. He would be on the DL if not for his splitter.

[Ironman92]

The next time the Reds face Bumgarner will Dusty be able to find enough players to fill out the lineup?

[Who Dey Time]

Nope, was 93-96mph in May and his slider was far better. Since then he has been around 91-94mph and a dull slider.

Again Who, you have to understand, that is all it takes. To say Bailey has not pitched fatigued is rediculous. Not only has his velocity dipped a bit, but his movement has as well on all his pitches. He threw some nasty curves against the Yankees and Braves I am still waiting to see again. He would be on the DL if not for his splitter.

He doesnt pitch consistently up to 96. Of course no one is as strong as they are in April but claiming Bailey is fatigued or should be placed on the DL is lunacy.

[Spider Tre]

that would've been half way up the Moon Deck

[texasdave]

That might have won someone a Toyota. LOL.

[Stray]

haha yea

[texasdave]

Turn out the lights. The party's over.

[Ironman92]

Blanco may have went for and inside-the-park HR had Bumgarner not been in front of him.

[Stray]

Yep I'm out, get em tomorrow.

..or at least score a run.

[Who Dey Time]

Looking more and more like LeCure is the dead man if and when Masset makes it back.

[texasdave]

Better luck tomorrow.

[The Rage]

Not a good omen for Lecure.

[mrherd05]

Yes. I'm going to rip the lineup. Look
At it. 812 year old second baseman. 768 year
Old 3rd baseman and a third baseman playing left. No reason to rip it??

[mrherd05]

Yes. I'm going to rip the lineup. Look
At it. 812 year old second baseman. 768 year
Old 3rd baseman and a third baseman playing left. No reason to rip it??

[chuck6660]

Typical Reds performance as of late...sucks! What will it take to get Rolen benched...actually from the way things look today, the whole team needs to be benched. Another crappy day in Redsland, 1st place is slip-sliding away. I'm predicting a 4-7 west coast trip and Reds are tied for 2nd at the All-Star Game break. If we can't win with Cueto, then chances of splitting the next 4 is bleak.

[Ironman92]

Rolen is tied for 2nd in hits tonight by a Reds player.

[Ironman92]

My God he's an old 22. Reds announcers call Bruce, Stubbs, Cueto young....what do they call Bumgarner.

[Ironman92]

Heisey with a 276 footer....2nd longest tonight?

[Ironman92]

KFP

[Ironman92]

Seemed like the 2010 playoffs all over again.

[Ironman92]

Swinging for HR...not gonna get it

[BluegrassRedleg]

Clearly you have NO CLUE what you are talking about...but nice try.

Come again?

30+ years of experience watching these West Coast games.

Shoulda listened.

[mrherd05]

Coming off two straight seasons with winning west coast trips, and you are claiming VICTORY in your statement after one game. Sure thing boss.