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Sea Ray
06-30-2012, 11:45 AM
Erin Andrews is the latest female to leave ESPN

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/erin-andrews-leaves-espn-fox-amps-courtship-234948120--ncaaf.html

This comes on the heels of Michelle Beadle who left for NBC a month ago.

I wonder how much Fox Sports is paying her. I think ESPN is smart not to get into a bidding war for her services. There'll always be another pretty face ready to take her place. I watch games because of the teams on the field, not because of who asks the two stupid questions of the coach at halftime

Joseph
06-30-2012, 12:31 PM
I think bimbo is a little harsh, but I see the root of the sentiment and don't disagree. Sideline reporters have never really added anything to the experience of the game to me. I don't care if they are a former athlete like a Lynn Swan or a 'hot' woman like Erin Andrews. The jobs not complex, hire the next one and move on. No one watches a telecast based on the sideline reporter.

Joseph
06-30-2012, 12:41 PM
I think bimbo is a little harsh, but I see the root of the sentiment and don't disagree. Sideline reporters have never really added anything to the experience of the game to me. I don't care if they are a former athlete like a Lynn Swan or a 'hot' woman like Erin Andrews. The jobs not complex, hire the next one and move on. No one watches a telecast based on the sideline reporter.

cincrazy
06-30-2012, 02:35 PM
I think it's unfair to call Erin Andrews out and act like she has a job just because of her good looks. I actually think she's pretty talented. Whether you feel she's being utilized correctly or not is another matter. But she seems pretty knowledgable and is passionate about what she does.

Stray
06-30-2012, 02:41 PM
Erin Andrews always got on my nerves but Beadle was awesome.

Sea Ray
06-30-2012, 06:56 PM
I think it's unfair to call Erin Andrews out and act like she has a job just because of her good looks. I actually think she's pretty talented. Whether you feel she's being utilized correctly or not is another matter. But she seems pretty knowledgable and is passionate about what she does.

Can we agree that looks is part of the job description ? Do you think Rosie O'Donnell will be considered for her replacement?

jojo
06-30-2012, 07:38 PM
Andrews may have a certain following simply because of her looks (and I actually don't understand why some are so gaga over her looks), but IMHO, she generally tried to bring substance. She's probably too talented for the cliche that is sideline reporter.

cincrazy
07-01-2012, 10:39 AM
Can we agree that looks is part of the job description ? Do you think Rosie O'Donnell will be considered for her replacement?

I'm not saying her looks weren't part of the reason ESPN hired her. What I am saying is, looks or no looks, she's damn good at what she does. We can agree to disagree on that I suppose.

Assembly Hall
07-01-2012, 11:08 AM
ESPN is a cheap network when it comes to paying their "celebrities" what they are worth in the open market. Being male or female does not matter.

Joseph
07-01-2012, 01:28 PM
ESPN is a cheap network when it comes to paying their "celebrities" what they are worth in the open market. Being male or female does not matter.

Thing is, as much as many of us dislike ESPN, they are the draw not the 'talent'.

I've said in my life, "gosh I can't wait to see Sports Center tonight", but I've never said "I really want to see what Erin Andrews says tonight on TV".

ESPN is the machine, it goes on whether Andrews or Berman or anyone is there.

medford
07-01-2012, 02:36 PM
For those not paying attention, Erin & Michelle leaving ESPN isn't a "because they're women" thing. There is a long history of people rising to fame on ESPN, then leaving for something else when ESPN won't match the kind of offers they're making elsewhere. Keith Olberman, Craig Killborn, Rich Eisen, Dan Patrick, Kevin Frasier, Brian Kenney, Max Kellerman, etc, etc, etc...

Frankly the formula works. ESPN takes a largely unknown person, put them in a role where the country gets comfortable with them, then when they get to the point that the start seeing increasing offers elsewhere, ESPN replaces them with the next person.

Wouldn't surprise me much to see Scott Van Pelt follow Erin out the door. Both have been rumored to be on their way out for several months now.

Sea Ray
07-01-2012, 04:21 PM
I'm not saying her looks weren't part of the reason ESPN hired her. What I am saying is, looks or no looks, she's damn good at what she does. We can agree to disagree on that I suppose.

If that's what you're saying then you're just refusing to address my question. I understand you weren't saying that looks "weren't part of the reason ESPN hired her", that's why I asked the question of you. Instead of answering it, you decided to make another point, one which you'd already made.

Since you've decided to go down that road, let's pursue it. What do you see about her that makes her damn good at what she does? What sets her apart from other sideline reporters? What is it that sets her apart from Shelley Smith, Holly Rowe and Wendi Nix?

Remember ESPN Radio's Fabulous Sports Babe? She was on radio and the early days of ESPN 2 in the 1990s. Definitely knew her sports but there was clearly a reason why her career never went beyond radio...;)

Sea Ray
07-01-2012, 04:29 PM
For those not paying attention, Erin & Michelle leaving ESPN isn't a "because they're women" thing. There is a long history of people rising to fame on ESPN, then leaving for something else when ESPN won't match the kind of offers they're making elsewhere. Keith Olberman, Craig Killborn, Rich Eisen, Dan Patrick, Kevin Frasier, Brian Kenney, Max Kellerman, etc, etc, etc...

Frankly the formula works. ESPN takes a largely unknown person, put them in a role where the country gets comfortable with them, then when they get to the point that the start seeing increasing offers elsewhere, ESPN replaces them with the next person.

Wouldn't surprise me much to see Scott Van Pelt follow Erin out the door. Both have been rumored to be on their way out for several months now.

I agree with you that it isn't a male-female thing but if you're saying it's a money thing, I will tend to disagree. I think in most cases it was a political thing. The article I posted earlier alluded to that:


In March, rumors started floating around that Andrews was unhappy at ESPN and that her agent was shopping her talents.

In the case of Olbermann, Kilborn and Dan Patrick, they wanted to pursue other things and not be forever tied to Sportscenter

medford
07-01-2012, 06:36 PM
I agree with you that it isn't a male-female thing but if you're saying it's a money thing, I will tend to disagree. I think in most cases it was a political thing. The article I posted earlier alluded to that:



In the case of Olbermann, Kilborn and Dan Patrick, they wanted to pursue other things and not be forever tied to Sportscenter

Perhaps they were exploring other things, but Dan Patrick left radio to... form his own radio program. I'm sure he would have stuck around had ESPN been willing to pay him more, releave him of his sportscenter duties, etc... Instead, they knew they could backfill that radio slot with someone else and proceed forward.

gilpdawg
07-01-2012, 11:19 PM
For those not paying attention, Erin & Michelle leaving ESPN isn't a "because they're women" thing. There is a long history of people rising to fame on ESPN, then leaving for something else when ESPN won't match the kind of offers they're making elsewhere. Keith Olberman, Craig Killborn, Rich Eisen, Dan Patrick, Kevin Frasier, Brian Kenney, Max Kellerman, etc, etc, etc...

Frankly the formula works. ESPN takes a largely unknown person, put them in a role where the country gets comfortable with them, then when they get to the point that the start seeing increasing offers elsewhere, ESPN replaces them with the next person.

Wouldn't surprise me much to see Scott Van Pelt follow Erin out the door. Both have been rumored to be on their way out for several months now.

Van Pelt already re-signed, I believe.

RANDY IN INDY
07-04-2012, 10:30 AM
Andrews may have a certain following simply because of her looks (and I actually don't understand why some are so gaga over her looks), but IMHO, she generally tried to bring substance. She's probably too talented for the cliche that is sideline reporter.

I'm not gaga over her looks, but, she most certainly is a fine looking woman.;)

Assembly Hall
07-04-2012, 10:46 AM
There have been alot of their people leave due to money issues. If any of ya ever listen to the "Bob and Tom" show, they have a gal on there that has done work for ESPN in the past. Her name is Kristi Lee. She wasnt a big personality, but did quite a bit of work for them doing the x-games and such. But anyways, she used to say that ESPN stood for "Extemely Slow Paying Network"!

Assembly Hall
07-04-2012, 10:48 AM
I'm not gaga over her looks, but, she most certainly is a fine looking woman.;)

Yeah, I need to write a book entitled......"A million and one things I would like to do with Erin Andrews."!:laugh:

jojo
07-04-2012, 11:02 AM
I'm not gaga over her looks, but, she most certainly is a fine looking woman.;)

My wife is a fine woman. Erin and all other women for that matter are hopelessly flawed in comparison.

But Erin is a better sports reporter than my wife could be-she'll always have that.

Chip R
07-04-2012, 11:36 AM
Beadle and Andrews leaving are probably for bigger and better things. It's true that ESPN can be pretty frugal. Also, the people who worked there haven't exactly been enamored with the social life Bristol offers. However, ESPN has had some sexual harassment scandals in the past.

Orenda
07-04-2012, 06:36 PM
Yeah, I need to write a book entitled......"A million and one things I would like to do with Erin Andrews."!:laugh:

number 2. well that was quick, take the remaining time to think of some more things

R_Webb18
07-04-2012, 07:13 PM
i heard she wanted a bigger role but espn didn't think she was as good as she thought she was. no source just what i heard

New York Red
07-05-2012, 12:55 PM
If that's what you're saying then you're just refusing to address my question. I understand you weren't saying that looks "weren't part of the reason ESPN hired her", that's why I asked the question of you. Instead of answering it, you decided to make another point, one which you'd already made.

Since you've decided to go down that road, let's pursue it. What do you see about her that makes her damn good at what she does? What sets her apart from other sideline reporters? What is it that sets her apart from Shelley Smith, Holly Rowe and Wendi Nix?

Remember ESPN Radio's Fabulous Sports Babe? She was on radio and the early days of ESPN 2 in the 1990s. Definitely knew her sports but there was clearly a reason why her career never went beyond radio...;)
Wow, I had completely forgotten about the Fabulous Sports Babe. I considered her the Roseanne Barr of sports radio. :laugh:

cincrazy
07-05-2012, 08:51 PM
If that's what you're saying then you're just refusing to address my question. I understand you weren't saying that looks "weren't part of the reason ESPN hired her", that's why I asked the question of you. Instead of answering it, you decided to make another point, one which you'd already made.

Since you've decided to go down that road, let's pursue it. What do you see about her that makes her damn good at what she does? What sets her apart from other sideline reporters? What is it that sets her apart from Shelley Smith, Holly Rowe and Wendi Nix?

Remember ESPN Radio's Fabulous Sports Babe? She was on radio and the early days of ESPN 2 in the 1990s. Definitely knew her sports but there was clearly a reason why her career never went beyond radio...;)

Ok, what makes her so terrible? Why is she undeserving of a job, and why does she deserve to be labeled a "bimbo." How is that fair?

Sea Ray
07-09-2012, 04:05 PM
Ok, what makes her so terrible? Why is she undeserving of a job, and why does she deserve to be labeled a "bimbo." How is that fair?

When did I say Erin Andrews wasn't deserving of a job? She certainly is. She did nothing that deserved a firing.

As for being a bimbo, she's where she is because of her body, looks, makeup and hair coloring. I think we can all agree that Chris Berman isn't at ESPN for those reasons