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Mutaman
07-01-2012, 07:44 PM
It isn't above the shoulders. He just tires easily. Now he probably needs more work. Sorta of like the Bailey of the bullpen.

When you consistently walk the first hitter you face and do nothing to change the problem, then consistently throw that dopey pitch in the dirt with a runner in scoring position, you are not the sharpest pencil in the box.

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 07:45 PM
Lets say Heisey and Cozart reach, do you hit Valdez for Stubbs? I do....here is to hoping we get to find out what Dusty would do.

Stubbs would be asked to bunt in that scenario.

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 07:46 PM
That is what I'm saying, Valdez > Stubbs at bunting

Stray
07-01-2012, 07:46 PM
If we get a couple of guys on and Votto is available to PH that's what I'd want to see.

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 07:46 PM
That is what I'm saying, Valdez > Stubbs at bunting

Maybe, but Stubbs will stay in.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:46 PM
Nice AB

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:47 PM
Great AB. Let's move him around.

Stray
07-01-2012, 07:47 PM
heck of an AB

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 07:47 PM
Nice AB by Chris

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:47 PM
Best of the game probly

Stray
07-01-2012, 07:47 PM
Cozart does not have good bunting form. After that first attempt I hope we take the call off.

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 07:48 PM
Like I said --- rarely do the Reds get the bunt down as good as the we just saw

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 07:48 PM
TERRIBLE

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 07:48 PM
groan

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 07:49 PM
Fire the hitting coach in the minor league

Stray
07-01-2012, 07:49 PM
Generally speaking our team is absolutely terrible at bunting...we have a few good ones, not many tho.

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 07:49 PM
Why should Cozart waste his time learning how to bunt? He hits a whopping .247. No reason to know how to bunt.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:49 PM
Here comes a K

The Rage
07-01-2012, 07:49 PM
Hopefully the Reds replace Cozart in the next 2-3 years. Guy is a stronger version of Janish.

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 07:50 PM
Fire the hitting coach in the minor league

If a player not named Joey Votto doesn't know how to bunt, that's on them. It's not a difficult skill to be able to sacrifice a runner from first to second.

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 07:50 PM
Stubbs 0-2 hole --- 0-13 -- not looking good

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:50 PM
Hopefully the Reds replace Cozart in the next 2-3 years. Guy is a stronger version of Janish.


Janish can bunt. That is one thing he can do with the bat.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:50 PM
Hopefully the Reds replace Cozart in the next 2-3 years. Guy is a stronger version of Janish.

I think he can be a good hitter, just needs some time. Stubbs is the one needing replaced

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:51 PM
So much room out there.

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 07:51 PM
Here comes a Kan of corn

fixed it for you

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:51 PM
Come on BP

Stray
07-01-2012, 07:51 PM
Tell Heisey to steal 2nd please

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 07:51 PM
I steal Heisey

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:52 PM
fixed it for you

Lol....just going with the percentages

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 07:52 PM
Big steal

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:52 PM
That was my foot Posey tripped over. You're welcome.

Stray
07-01-2012, 07:52 PM
lol

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 07:52 PM
Hopefully the Reds replace Cozart in the next 2-3 years. Guy is a stronger version of Janish.

You people either want to fire Cozart or put him in the hall of fame. He's a rookie hitting out of position, give him a break.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:53 PM
You people either want to fire Cozart or put him in the hall of fame. He's a rookie hitting out of position, give him a break.

This

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:53 PM
You people either want to fire Cozart or put him in the hall of fame. He's a rookie hitting out of position, give him a break.


I don't think executing a sac bunt is asking too much. Nobody is asking him to carry the team.

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 07:53 PM
Where should Cozart be hitting? 7th or 8th?

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 07:54 PM
If he got the bunt down it would not have matter

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:55 PM
Where should Cozart be hitting? 7th or 8th?

I'd be happy with either, or 2nd when votto is there

Stray
07-01-2012, 07:55 PM
It's not just Cozart though, it's like this team doesn't ever practice bunting. The form on some of the attempts I've seen is ridiculous.

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 07:55 PM
I don't think executing a sac bunt is asking too much. Nobody is asking him to carry the team.

It isn't and he really needs to step it up with guys on base. Responding to the dude who wants to get rid of him.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 07:55 PM
I'd be happy with either, or 2nd when votto is there

Than Stubbs bats lead off and we are in the same boat

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 07:55 PM
Bruce-Ludwick-Frazier-....VOTTO?? Keep it to 1 run and we have a shot.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:55 PM
It's not just Cozart though, it's like this team doesn't ever practice bunting. The form on some of the attempts I've seen is ridiculous.


Who should make the team practice? Any idea?

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:56 PM
Than Stubbs bats lead off and we are in the same boat

Not on my ideal team....I've seen enough of Stubbs.

MoreRockin
07-01-2012, 07:56 PM
Our lineup is awful at the plate!

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 07:57 PM
Our hope was for the bullpen to hold the fort and maybe we could scratch a run across. Ondrusek put the kibosh on that idea.

MoreRockin
07-01-2012, 07:57 PM
Not on my ideal team....I've seen enough of Stubbs.

Stubbs has no business being at the top of the lineup of a first place ball club

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:57 PM
In the playoffs, which I think this team will make, the little things get magnified. You face better pitchers and therefore you have to maximize your scoring opportunities.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 07:58 PM
Did welsh just say overtime?

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:58 PM
Stubbs has no business being at the top of the lineup of a first place ball club

He should be a pinch runner...that's about it

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 07:58 PM
Our lineup is awful at the plate!

Lots of right handed hitters against good right handed pitchers. We've had this problem for quite awhile.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:00 PM
It would behoove Marshall to not let anyone score.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:00 PM
It would behoove Marshall to not let anyone score.

Lol...it would huh

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:00 PM
Who should make the team practice? Any idea?

Obviously the inability to bunt starts with the minor league coaches and all of the way up to the coaches on the big league team.

If it were one guy that would be one thing, most of the guys on our team can't bunt.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:01 PM
Lol...it would huh

I just wanted to work the word 'behoove' into a game thread. :)

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:01 PM
I just wanted to work the word 'behoove' into a game thread. :)

Lol

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:03 PM
big out

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 08:04 PM
Big out

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:04 PM
Big out.....jus sayin

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:04 PM
pretty big out

herbdizzle
07-01-2012, 08:05 PM
Watching this game today just shows the dire need for 1-2 more LHH on the 25 man roster. Calling up Dioner Navarro as a switch hitter would be a start.

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:05 PM
If anybody gets on in the 9th hopefully Votto hitting for Cairo

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:05 PM
Watching this game today just shows the dire need for 1-2 more LHH on the 25 man roster. Calling up Dioner Navarro as a switch hitter would be a start.

Navarro sux....he's washed up.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:05 PM
Nice. 4-5-6 coming up.

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 08:07 PM
Marshall's pretty tough on the left handed hitters.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:07 PM
Obviously the inability to bunt starts with the minor league coaches and all of the way up to the coaches on the big league team.

If it were one guy that would be one thing, most of the guys on our team can't bunt.


Whenever I head down to Minute Maid I get there early to watch batting practice. Most teams have their players lay down bunts on the first two pitches they see. It is a joke for them. They could not care less how they bunt the ball.

herbdizzle
07-01-2012, 08:08 PM
Navarro sux....he's washed up.

The guy is a switch hitter and is hitting .340 in AAA. If Costanzo, Harris, and Negron get a shot I wouldn't mind seeing a former All-Star.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:08 PM
Whenever I head down to Minute Maid I get there early to watch batting practice. Most teams have their players lay down bunts on the first two pitches they see. It is a joke for them. They could not care less how they bunt the ball.

Reds players bunt during BP also!!

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 08:08 PM
Most of the team sucks right now....the starting lineup today (with Frazier) can boast 4 batters hitting over .250...

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:09 PM
Whenever I head down to Minute Maid I get there early to watch batting practice. Most teams have their players lay down bunts on the first two pitches they see. It is a joke for them. They could not care less how they bunt the ball.

It's a lost art these days...well at least on our team.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:09 PM
The guy is a switch hitter and is hitting .340 in AAA. If Costanzo, Harris, and Negron get a shot I wouldn't mind seeing a former All-Star.

I guess he could get a shot, just don't think he is any good anymore.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:09 PM
Reds players bunt during BP also!!

I have seen the Reds bunt during BP. There is a difference between practicing bunting and just sticking your bat out twice.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 08:09 PM
Big hit

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:09 PM
There's a good start

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:10 PM
Big hit

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:10 PM
Ludwick with two hits today. How about a third?

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 08:10 PM
Heisey gives nothing to this team though, he doesn't hit for power or average and swings at the most asinine pitches you will ever see. He's also slower than dirt for a centerfielder and isn't a threat to steal any bases

Ignorant

And he just proved it

Heisey averages 3.88 from home to 1st....Stubbs averages 3.75

Stubbs is 0/14, failed bunt and 2 baserunning errors and Heisey has 1 flipping plate appearance and works a tough walk and steals 2nd. He had 28 starts over 35 games and hit .302

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:11 PM
I have seen the Reds bunt during BP. There is a difference between practicing bunting and just sticking your bat out twice.

Whether it is for show or they are really practicing....doing it twice ain't cutting it.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:11 PM
Whether it is for show or they are really practicing....doing it twice ain't cutting it.


You are preaching to the choir. :)

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:12 PM
Does Dusty bunt Ludwick?

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:12 PM
Ignorant

And he just proved it

Heisey averages 3.88 from home to 1st....Stubbs averages 3.75

Stubbs is 0/14, failed bunt and 2 baserunning errors and Heisey has 1 flipping plate appearance and works a tough walk and steals 2nd. He had 28 starts over 35 games and hit .302

Heisey as a pinch hitter is solid, but as a starter it's like his mind does a 180 and swings at terrible pitches

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:12 PM
Does Dusty bunt Ludwick?

Nooooooo

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:12 PM
Nope.

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:12 PM
Doesn't seem like the kinda guy that would be a good bunter either...if he isn't, don't even ask him imo.

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 08:12 PM
Need to hire Brett Butler to put on a 3 day clinic over the break...LOL

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:12 PM
Reds in business.

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:13 PM
Now would be when you want to bunt

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:13 PM
Ooooooohhhh yeeeeaaaahhhhhhh

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:13 PM
Valdez please?

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 08:13 PM
Now you bunt. bring up Valdez and bunt

The Rage
07-01-2012, 08:13 PM
Time for Frazier to put the final dirt on Rolen's grave

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 08:13 PM
Ludwick just earned himself some bench.....3 hits

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:14 PM
switching over to MLB gamecast because ESPN is soooo terrible

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 08:14 PM
Now would be when you want to bunt

Not in Baker Ball it seems -- and he rolled the right dice with it!

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:14 PM
Looking good.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 08:14 PM
Held him again

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:14 PM
Joey Votto please

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:14 PM
jeese do we ever send our runners?

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:15 PM
Squeeze?

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:15 PM
jeese do we ever send our runners?

Yeah....and they get thrown out

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:15 PM
Cairo can bunt

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 08:15 PM
Votto must really be hurting

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 08:15 PM
Bruce froze a little long but be safe with Bo outs

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:15 PM
Votto must really be hurting

he is

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 08:15 PM
they look like they are on this guy's pitches

brm7675
07-01-2012, 08:15 PM
Split in SF..Not a bad start to 11 game road trip

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 08:15 PM
Bruce froze a little long but be safe with no outs

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:16 PM
Cairo!

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:16 PM
Everyone hits in the ninth!!

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 08:16 PM
We get the worse jumps

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 08:16 PM
Votto has just been Pipped

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:16 PM
OK, great job hitting, but my god how bad is our baserunning not to score on these past two hits?

The Rage
07-01-2012, 08:16 PM
Nickle and diming our way to victory!!!

brm7675
07-01-2012, 08:16 PM
Votto must really be hurting

Probably will miss 3-4 games...no reason to rush it...

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:16 PM
Split in SF..Not a bad start to 11 game road trip

Huh? You using your reverse phsyc?

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:16 PM
i really cant believe this. come on guys, LETS WIN THIS GAME!!!!

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 08:16 PM
Reports of Cairo's demise have been exagerated

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:17 PM
Probably will miss 3-4 games...no reason to rush it...

Yes I agree, no reason to rush him back in early July...even if we lose a couple in a row.

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 08:17 PM
Votto on deck???

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:17 PM
cmon, somebody just needs to get a sac fly

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 08:18 PM
No strike out

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:18 PM
Valdez on deck.

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 08:18 PM
Hanny doesn't swing & miss much --- dang

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:18 PM
How the hell did Ludwick not score on that hit into left?

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:18 PM
Valdez on deck.

Better than a dp

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:18 PM
I would have lost some money betting on that.

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:18 PM
really hanigan?

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:18 PM
squeeze?

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 08:19 PM
I love Hannigan but that was really bad. Really bad.

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 08:19 PM
Votto on deck???

no

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:19 PM
I love Hannigan but that was really bad. Really bad.


Unexpected to be sure.

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:19 PM
hard to squeeze with a force at home...unless it's a straight suicide

xsteve1
07-01-2012, 08:19 PM
Does Hanny ever hit in the clutch.

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:20 PM
hanigan is a solid player, but how often has he been a clutch player?

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:20 PM
not looking good now

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:20 PM
Does Hanny ever hit in the clutch.

Uhhhhh....lol....all the time

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 08:20 PM
****ing joke

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 08:20 PM
If Valdez doesn't get it done, I send up Votto for Cozart and Valdez plkays ss

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:20 PM
Another horrible at-bat.

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:20 PM
that was terrible

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:20 PM
Please don't let us blow this. And fire Mark Berry.

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 08:20 PM
miserable swing there

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:20 PM
this team is baaaad with RISP

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:20 PM
Cozart gets to be the hero

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:21 PM
Would have rather seen Mike Leake.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:21 PM
That fizzled in a hurry.

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 08:21 PM
Please don't let us blow this. And fire Mark Berry.

3B coaches rarely get any love -- sometimes it is deserved

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:21 PM
if this goes extras, doubtful this team has much of a chance, gotta do something here

GoReds19
07-01-2012, 08:21 PM
Wow

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:21 PM
Dusty looked pi$$ed

DocRed
07-01-2012, 08:21 PM
Is there a worse 3B coach than Mark Berry? Seriously...

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 08:21 PM
Please don't let us blow this. And fire Mark Berry.

Nonsense. you play it safe with nobody out. Berry doesn't swing the bat. Bad second guess.

FlyingPig
07-01-2012, 08:21 PM
Why is Berry even out there?

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:22 PM
cozart is becoming worse by the day, my god

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:22 PM
3B coaches rarely get any love -- sometimes it is deserved

Not sending Bruce was fine. He wasn't running on contact. But Ludwick was running right when the ball was hit. He would have scored without a throw. Berry sucks and likely cost us this game.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 08:22 PM
The Reds fail again

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:22 PM
Tough when Valdez is your best option in a non bunting situation. The guy who needed to get us the lead was Hanigan.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:22 PM
Is there a worse 3B coach than Mark Berry? Seriously...

Lol at this post....seriously?

RedsLvr
07-01-2012, 08:22 PM
Why did we not pinch hi Votto there? I thought he was available....

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:22 PM
Nonsense. you play it safe with nobody out. Berry doesn't swing the bat. Bad second guess.

Sending Ludwick was playing it safe. Cabrera has a rag arm and he had to run a pretty good distance to field the ball. Idiotic base coaching, once again. He's a fool.

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:23 PM
Why did we not pinch hi Votto there? I thought he was available....

Thought he was too, I guess he's hurting a little more than we thought.

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:23 PM
This team lacks footspeed at alot of positions, so you cant get on Berry too much. Reds only fast player on the team is Stubbs and maybe Valdez

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 08:23 PM
Dusty said Votto was available to PH, why the heck could he send him up there with the bases loaded?? Votto on 1 leg > Valdez

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 08:23 PM
That is on hanny, Valdez horrible at bats

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:23 PM
this loss is gonna hurt this team bad

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 08:23 PM
I really hate second guessers. Almost as much as I hate guys who can't come through with the winning run on third and less than two outs.

DocRed
07-01-2012, 08:23 PM
Not sending Bruce was fine. He wasn't running on contact. But Ludwick was running right when the ball was hit. He would have scored without a throw. Berry sucks and likely cost us this game.

100% correct, no reason not to send Ludwick that was a clear hit from the second it left the bat and it was way deep enough a throw wouldn't have been close. Berry being Berry....awesome. If 3B coaches had a WAR stat he would be -1.0 just after today.

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:24 PM
MLB TV guys ripping Berry to shreds right now (with good reason). Still, Hanigan and/or Valdez have to at least give you contact.

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:25 PM
I really hate second guessers. Almost as much as I hate guys who can't come through with the winning run on third and less than two outs.

You hate me? I'm so sad.

DocRed
07-01-2012, 08:25 PM
Mark Berry would hold the runner at third on a bases loaded hit if he could....

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:25 PM
No way Posey is gonna try to block the plate either. Always easy to second guess I spose, but it's still on Hanny for not getting the run home.

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 08:25 PM
Uhhhhh....lol....all the time

8 RBI seems silly low

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 08:25 PM
I don't know why the batters where up there hacking at every thing.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:26 PM
8 RBI seems silly low

Not when nobody gets on in front of you.

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 08:27 PM
If Ludwick had been thrown out at the plate the same people would have been blaming Berry for sending him home with nobody out and a contact hitter like Hannigan coming up. Second guessers.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 08:27 PM
Bruce is slower than ****

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:27 PM
Mark Berry would hold the runner at third on a bases loaded hit if he could....

He just has no feel for the game. Remember him sending Bruce when the cutoff man had the ball in short left when Bruce was still a step away from third? Then he holds Ludwick just now. It's incredible how poor he is at his job.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:27 PM
Bloop double.

Who Dey Time
07-01-2012, 08:27 PM
Wow. Bloop me.

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 08:27 PM
that was some pretty bad luck with jammed pitch

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:27 PM
Hanigan hits .250 w/RISP

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:27 PM
If Ludwick had been thrown out at the plate the same people would have been blaming Berry for sending him home with nobody out and a contact hitter like Hannigan coming up. Second guessers.

You watching the game? Prince Fielder could have scored without a close play on that hit.

Falcon7
07-01-2012, 08:28 PM
Nice jog Jay...

xsteve1
07-01-2012, 08:28 PM
Be nice if we had a catcher who could hit and hit with power.

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:28 PM
Bruce is slower than ****

now you see why our coaches are so hesitant to some our players. This team needs to go down south and workout with some SEC football teams

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 08:28 PM
I really hate second guessers. Almost as much as I hate guys who can't come through with the winning run on third and less than two outs.

If you want, go back and look well before Valdez was announced I was asking about Votto...anyway go on hating. I even said hit Votto for Cozart and let Valdez play ss. But anyway, if this game goes on for multiple innings and Votto DOES hit then it should really raise some questions...just saying

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:29 PM
Be nice if we had a catcher who could hit and hit with power.

It would be nice if we had some more knowledgeable fans!!!

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 08:29 PM
If you want, go back and look well before Valdez was announced I was asking about Votto...anyway go on hating. I even said hit Votto for Cozart and let Valdez play ss. But anyway, if this game goes on for multiple innings and Votto DOES hit then it should really raise some questions...just saying

What does Votto got to do with Mark Berry?

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:30 PM
Berry is getting a lot of heat for holding him though. I haven't seen the replay so it must have been a no brainer.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:31 PM
Come on Jose

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:31 PM
Berry is getting a lot of heat for holding him though. I haven't seen the replay so it must have been a no brainer.

Honest to God - I don't think Cabrera even would have thrown the ball home had Ludwick tried to score.

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 08:31 PM
I made no comment on Berry....those decisions are made in fractions of seconds. Heck, he prob thought we have bases loaded and no outs, we will score at least one!

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:31 PM
Good Jose and bad Jose all in one inning.

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:31 PM
Are you serious Jay Bruce?

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:32 PM
No freaking way!

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 08:32 PM
Bruce-- you owe us a lot

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:32 PM
What in the heck was that? Oh my god.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 08:32 PM
I am Berry Berry mad right now. We lose this, gimp goes tomorrow, another loss for sure. Team is just not making any inroads. Just stagnating.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:32 PM
Bruce gonna catch he'll for that!

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 08:32 PM
Fire the whole bunch. That's are all- star horse ****

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:33 PM
how the hell is bruce is an all star again? also the team didnt deserve to win this one after the top half of the ninth

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 08:33 PM
Hey guys... Jay Bruce is an All Star.. come on haha

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:33 PM
That wasn't even to the warning track lol.

That is what you call giving a game away.

DocRed
07-01-2012, 08:33 PM
Is Jay Bruce on drugs? WOW, I've never seen a play that bad before...unbelievable.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 08:33 PM
Bruce gonna catch he'll for that!

He should

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:33 PM
How could he think he was against the wall? He wasn't even to the warning track yet. It's called a warning track for a reason.

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 08:33 PM
Honest to God - I don't think Cabrera even would have thrown the ball home had Ludwick tried to score.

So why didn't you you make a post critical of Berry Before Hannigan screwed the pooch?

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:33 PM
Fire the whole bunch. That's are all- star horse ****

STFU

xsteve1
07-01-2012, 08:33 PM
What the heck was Bruce doing?

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:34 PM
That, my friends, is called snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Jay acted like he's never seen a warning track before.

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:34 PM
So why didn't you you make a post critical of Berry Before Hannigan screwed the pooch?

I did.

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 08:34 PM
That was simply sickening -- Jay Bruce -- you are out of my will

herbdizzle
07-01-2012, 08:34 PM
Oh well. **** happens. Reds were lucky to even be in that game.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:34 PM
At least the Pirates lost.

DocRed
07-01-2012, 08:34 PM
Dude was 10 feet from the wall....sucks to be Jay Bruce right now. :X

TheBigLebowski
07-01-2012, 08:34 PM
Jay Bruce did not deserve an all-star invite even before that. I'm growing increasingly tired of him.

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:34 PM
You couldn't play a routine fly ball worse if you tried. That is Sportscenter NOT Top 10 bad.

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 08:35 PM
That is almost Canseco-like

Falcon7
07-01-2012, 08:35 PM
Yea, he's a great right fielder to the A Hole on WLW today "He's the best in the NL". So sick of this BS about how good of a fielder he is! HE'S NOT!

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 08:35 PM
Oh well. **** happens. Reds were lucky to even be in that game.

this. we should be happy we gave the giants as good a game we did minus votto

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:35 PM
Yea, he's a great right fielder to the A Hole on WLW today "He's the best in the NL. So sick of this BS about how good of a fielder he is! HE'S NOT!

Uhhhhhh sure guy!!!

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 08:36 PM
Bruce has a solid arm in RF... i still consider him one of the better ones in the league

Billy Hamilton's Legs
07-01-2012, 08:36 PM
speechless.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 08:36 PM
A split is still not bad.

DocRed
07-01-2012, 08:36 PM
Jay was great in RF last year, I thought he could have won a gold glove. This year he has been terrible, and I have thought that even before today.

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 08:36 PM
A split is still not bad.

Not at all... just disappointing to end that way

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 08:37 PM
It amazes me this team is in first, with how many games seem to be thrown away and the lackluster hiiting....just amazes me. Oh well....bring on the Dodgers

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:37 PM
A split is still not bad.

Big picture, you're right. Giving away games is bad, though.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:37 PM
Yes the reds lost and shoulda won, but we have won games we shouldn't have and now lost one.

Stray
07-01-2012, 08:37 PM
A split is still not bad.

True. I almost wish we hadn't started the 9th so awesome today because this loss wouldn't suck as bad haha.

Loaded in a tie game with 0 outs and you don't take the lead.
Botch a flyball to RF to lose.

Ugh.

Redsfansince72
07-01-2012, 08:37 PM
The lack of a good bench hurt in the top of the 9th. then Bruce looks like a little leaguer on a routine flyball.. GRRRR..

Billy Hamilton's Legs
07-01-2012, 08:38 PM
the reds didnt deserve to win that game. bases loaded, no outs and you can't plate a run. and then jay's misplay. onward to LA

brm7675
07-01-2012, 08:38 PM
Lack luster hitting? Do u even have have a clue how good the Giants pitching is ?

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 08:38 PM
Dodgers tomorrow... lets see which Bailey we get... hopefully not the one his name implies!

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:38 PM
The lack of a good bench hurt in the top of the 9th. then Bruce looks like a little leaguer on a routine flyball.. GRRRR..

I would love to see you play right field

MBZags
07-01-2012, 08:38 PM
Guys - I realize it's a tough loss and a bad way to end the game, but that doesn't justify being excessively critical and/or flaming/trolling other users. Knock it off.

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 08:38 PM
Get em tomorrow.

herbdizzle
07-01-2012, 08:39 PM
Take a deep breath guys. We split a 4 game set on the road against the hottest team in NL and could have taken 3. Starting pitching is looking real good and we have the next week against the weakest NL team and the punchless Dodgers. Let's keep eye on the ball. Still in 1st place.

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:39 PM
I would love to see you play right field

He didn't suggest he could do better. But even you'd have to admit that is a routine play for a Major League outfielder.

Redsfansince72
07-01-2012, 08:39 PM
i did play RF.. i made sure where i was at all times when it comes to the fence..

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:40 PM
That should not have been ruled a double, either.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:41 PM
He didn't suggest he could do better. But even you'd have to admit that is a routine play for a Major League outfielder.

It was routine for a guy that plays at that ballpark a lot. RF there is a lil quirky....he shoulda had it tho.

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 08:42 PM
Rest up fellas... another nightcap tomorrow!

brm7675
07-01-2012, 08:42 PM
Given how hot the Giants have been I will take a split an be very happy...

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:42 PM
That should not have been ruled a double, either.

At this point does it matter

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 08:43 PM
At this point does it matter

It matters to Jose Arrendondo, who did his job by coaxing a fairly routine fly ball.

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 08:45 PM
It matters to Jose Arrendondo, who did his job by coaxing a fairly routine fly ball.

Unfortunately, none of us are Arredondo

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:45 PM
It matters to Jose Arrendondo, who did his job by coaxing a fairly routine fly ball.

Did his job...runners were on base right?

Falcon7
07-01-2012, 08:49 PM
I would love to see you play right field

Could he have done any worse on that last play?

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 08:50 PM
Could he have done any worse on that last play?

Lol...yeah...coulda bounced it off his face.that would be worse right