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Ironman92
07-01-2012, 03:35 PM
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Ironman92
07-01-2012, 03:37 PM
Stubbs is 0 for his last 10 with 3 blunders......hopefully he gets on base a couple times, steals a couple and scores a couple runs to make Dusty look good.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 03:44 PM
This is an ideal place for Bronson to pitch. I would expect an excellent outing.

malcontent
07-01-2012, 03:50 PM
I doubt that Baker even knows that Frazier played 1B in the minors (72 games).

But he certainly does know that the ebb tides of Rolen and Cairo need PA to seek their true levels.

xsteve1
07-01-2012, 03:57 PM
Anybody know why Valdez hasn't played in a week? I haven't heard anything.

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 04:25 PM
Anybody know why Valdez hasn't played in a week? I haven't heard anything.

Cozart must not need a day off this week....Stubbs and Rolen are back so everybody loses playing time but them.

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 05:07 PM
Hola, mofos!

Stray
07-01-2012, 05:08 PM
At least it doesn't sound too bad with Votto

The Rage
07-01-2012, 05:13 PM
Cozart and Stubbs need to show the eff up with Votto out. If they don't, we won't score much.

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 05:16 PM
Cozart and Stubbs need to show the eff up with Votto out. If they don't, we won't score much.

Phillips and Bruce need to fill in the void IMO. Phillips going oppo and Bruce spraying line drives.

Stray
07-01-2012, 05:18 PM
On pace for a 27 pitch CG no hitter for Vogelsong

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 05:19 PM
Cozart goes after a slightly high 1st pitch for a weak fly out.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 05:23 PM
Phillips and Bruce need to fill in the void IMO. Phillips going oppo and Bruce spraying line drives.

Tough to fill in that gap when nobody get on ahead of you.

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 05:24 PM
At least Stubbs and Phillips got him into a double digit PC.

Barry Bonds walking down the stairs to be seated in the backround was pretty cool.

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 05:24 PM
Tough to fill in that gap when nobody get on ahead of you.

??? They need to get on themselves, can't control anything else.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:26 PM
Cairo stays with it. It looked touch-and-go for a second there.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 05:26 PM
??? They need to get on themselves, can't control anything else.

So they can be left stranded? Votto is what makes this offense go. Without him, they are a shell.

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 05:26 PM
I just tuned in... what happened to Rolen?

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:27 PM
I have no idea.

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 05:28 PM
I have no idea.

Did they say anything on air?

The Rage
07-01-2012, 05:28 PM
I have no idea.

Frazier will probably win the game

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:28 PM
I missed to first two hitters of the game. I haven't heard anything.

Stray
07-01-2012, 05:29 PM
Did they scratch Rolen before the game or after the top of the 1st? That's weird

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:29 PM
Did they scratch Rolen before the game or after the top of the 1st? That's weird


Rolen's name is in the boxscore. How could he have gotten hurt sitting on the bench in the top of the first? Weird.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 05:30 PM
Back spasm my ass

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:30 PM
Back spasms per Kelch.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:30 PM
Back spasm my ass


Wouldn't that make it an ass spasm? :laugh:

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 05:31 PM
Wouldn't that make it an ass spasm? :laugh:

Funny

Stray
07-01-2012, 05:31 PM
Frazier!

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 05:31 PM
I saw it on the MLB.tv box score... so Rolen had to have been put in as the starter

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:31 PM
Frazier doing Scotty Ro proud.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 05:31 PM
Wow

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 05:32 PM
Leak to pitch hit when needed. Down 2 bench players after Hi-C

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 05:32 PM
See... Dusty Baker knows what he's doing... that was a managerial decision... not back spasms

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 05:33 PM
Nice play by Frazier

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:34 PM
14 out of 18 NL Central division teams that were leading on July 1st went on to win the division. You have to like those odds.

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 05:34 PM
Rolen was on card given to ump....Rolen cannot be used in the game.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:35 PM
Do you think ballplayers really care where they hit? Or let it affect them? Once they step into the box you would think that would be the furthest thing from their minds.

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 05:35 PM
14 out 18 NL Central division teams that were leading on July 1st went on to win the division. You have to like those odds.

5 out of 4 people don't understand fractions.

91.3% of all statistics are made up

Falcon7
07-01-2012, 05:35 PM
Frazier doing Scotty Ro proud.

No way Rolen makes that play anymore.
More like Brooks Robinson against the Reds in the 1970 WS, right Lee May...

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:36 PM
No way Rolen makes that play anymore.
More like Brooks Robinson against the Reds in the 1970 WS, right Lee May...


I still hate Brooks Robinson. :)

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 05:36 PM
5 out of 4 people don't understand fractions.

91.3% of all statistics are made up

That would be 7 out of 9 when you reduce

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 05:37 PM
Do you think ballplayers really care where they hit? Or let it affect them? Once they step into the box you would think that would be the furthest thing from their minds.

Phillips has said batting 4th weighs on him.

With a 2-1 count and 1 out in the 6th inning....I can't fathom anyone thinking..."oh, I'm batting 7th so I suck"

The Rage
07-01-2012, 05:37 PM
Frazier has the raw tools to become a good 3rd baseman if the Reds would just let him play and learn.

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 05:37 PM
No way Rolen makes that play anymore.
More like Brooks Robinson against the Reds in the 1970 WS, right Lee May...

Disagree

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 05:38 PM
Do you think ballplayers really care where they hit? Or let it affect them? Once they step into the box you would think that would be the furthest thing from their minds.

I think they def do... it changes how they approach the AB ... an eight-hole guy isnt going to see the same pitching as a three or four-hole hitter

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:38 PM
Phillips has said batting 4th weighs on him.

With a 2-1 count and 1 out in the 6th inning....I can't fathom anyone thinking..."oh, I'm batting 7th so I suck"



Phillips should be leading off. We have a hitter with a .294 OBP leading off. Crazy.

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 05:39 PM
That would be 7 out 9 when you reduce

Math is teh bestest.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 05:40 PM
Arroyo and the bullpen will have to be superduper good today.

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 05:40 PM
Arroyo and the bullpen will have to be superduper good today.

No.. just Arroyo... they are getting the 3rd CG :laugh:

Falcon7
07-01-2012, 05:41 PM
I still hate Brooks Robinson. :)

He made some of the greatest plays by a 3rd baseman that I've ever seen (PERIOD) in that WS! And if memory serves he hit very well also.

herbdizzle
07-01-2012, 05:41 PM
This is a game where you hope Todd Frazier has a big game and keys the way to an unexpected win. I don't care what Rolen did to get his back spasms. The fact is the guy is old and sucks now. 0-16 with 8 K's his last 4 games. If he does not retire or DFA by All-Star Break his presence will be a cancer for the 2nd half.

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 05:44 PM
Buccos 4, Cardinals 5 - T7

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:45 PM
He made some of the greatest plays by a 3rd baseman that I've ever seen (PERIOD) in that WS! And if memory serves he hit very well also.


He was something special in that Series. That was back before Sportscenter. I am thinking he would have racked up quite a few web gems and plays of the day.

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 05:45 PM
Either Fay or Welsh is lying....my guess Welsh

The Rage
07-01-2012, 05:45 PM
Arroyo having command issues early.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:48 PM
Stubbs with a very nice catch.

Stray
07-01-2012, 05:48 PM
That's off the batter's eye in GABP lol

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 05:48 PM
The wind must be blowing something horrible.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 05:49 PM
I think I could pitch in this stadium and throw a quality start.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:49 PM
That's off the batter's eye in GABP lol


This is Arroyo's kinda park.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 05:49 PM
Either Fay or Welsh is lying....my guess Welsh

Maybe they traded Rolen lol

Who Dey Time
07-01-2012, 05:50 PM
This is a game where you hope Todd Frazier has a big game and keys the way to an unexpected win. I don't care what Rolen did to get his back spasms. The fact is the guy is old and sucks now. 0-16 with 8 K's his last 4 games. If he does not retire or DFA by All-Star Break his presence will be a cancer for the 2nd half.

Agree that Frazier should play a bit more but the last thing Rolen will ever be is a clubhouse cancer. You clearly have no idea how respected he is amongst the other players.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:50 PM
What did they lie about?

The Rage
07-01-2012, 05:50 PM
Maybe they traded Rolen lol

Rolen and Bailey for Wood.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:51 PM
Yeah, Rolen is a pro's pro. Not a clubhouse cancer.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 05:51 PM
Rolen and Bailey for Wood.

Bucket of balls and a nice water cooler

read favorite
07-01-2012, 05:51 PM
rolen would not fetch dried wood

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:53 PM
Did they give a timetable on Votto or is it the dreaded day-to-day?

herbdizzle
07-01-2012, 05:53 PM
Keeping Rolen around and trotting his carcass out there every game kills the attitude and confidence of a young player like Frazier. It reaffirms to guys like Heisey and Mesoraco that washed up veterans will always get the nod. Rolen may be a good dude but has no business having any active playing role for a playoff team.

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 05:54 PM
What did they lie about?

Someone asked Fay if Bonds got the loudest ovation and then Welsh just said Dusty did......maybe it's semantics...maybe Dusty's ovation was 58 seconds long but not as loud as Bonds' 55 second ovation.

Until video proof....I believe Fay.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 05:54 PM
The reds need to get Victorino

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:55 PM
He got spasmed during Cozart's one-pitch at-bat. That really narrows it down.

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 05:55 PM
Keeping Rolen around and trotting his carcass out there every game kills the attitude and confidence of a young player like Frazier. It reaffirms to guys like Heisey and Mesoraco that washed up veterans will always get the nod. Rolen may be a good dude but has no business having any active playing role for a playoff team.

I'd guess Heisey knows this by now.

Falcon7
07-01-2012, 05:55 PM
Either Fay or Welsh is lying....my guess Welsh

Missed it, about...?

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 05:56 PM
The reds need to get Victorino

Yeah....that would shut me up a bit.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 05:56 PM
What has happened to Valdez

xsteve1
07-01-2012, 05:57 PM
Reds brought their Thursday night bats to the game today

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 05:58 PM
What has happened to Valdez

Stubbs takes a lot of playing time from people.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 05:58 PM
on the plus side, this game should go quickly.

herbdizzle
07-01-2012, 05:58 PM
Agree on Victorino but I would not trade Stubbs to get him. A package of Heisey and a bullpen arm (Ondrusek, Bray, etc) + 1 third tier prospect should get it done. I'd hope the front office would try for a fair extension also.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 05:59 PM
I have a feeling Michael Bourn is gonna get "Chippered" in the last chance voting. 4.0 WAR. 4th in the league. And no ASG. Now that is a snub.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 05:59 PM
Missed it, about...?

Read post # 71

Falcon7
07-01-2012, 05:59 PM
on the plus side, this game should go quickly.

Is that you Marty?

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 06:01 PM
I have a feeling Michael Bourn is gonna get "Chippered" in the last chance voting. 4.0 WAR. 4th in the league. And no ASG. Now that is a snub.

How can Bourn not be there? You can argue Phillips calling the Cards b****** cost Bourn a spot.

Harper will get a ton of votes.....Chipper might...good list.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 06:02 PM
Is that you Marty?

Marty also said Wood is working on a 7 inning shutout while we have a gimp pitching for us tomorrow against the best team in the National League. Times are good, times are good.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:02 PM
How can Bourn not be there? You can argue Phillips calling the Cards b****** cost Bourn a spot.

Harper will get a ton of votes.....Chipper might...good list.


"Chippered" Or "Harpered" it is all the same. I doubt Bourn wins that voting.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 06:04 PM
Marty also said Wood is working on a 7 inning shutout while we have a gimp pitching for us tomorrow against the best team in the National League. Times are good, times are good.

I wouldn't say they are the best with what's on the DL

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:05 PM
Marty also said Wood is working on a 7 inning shutout while we have a gimp pitching for us tomorrow against the best team in the National League. Times are good, times are good.


He called Bailey a gimp?

mrherd05
07-01-2012, 06:05 PM
Marty also said Wood is working on a 7 inning shutout while we have a gimp pitching for us tomorrow against the best team in the National League. Times are good, times are good.

Man you serve no purpose with your posts. That post is just ignorant on so many levels. Wood couldn't compete last hear. Bailey has 10 quality starts this year and news flash boss the dodgers are not the best team in the national league.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 06:05 PM
He called Bailey a gimp?

No I did. He asked me if I was Marty and I replied in a Marty like fashion.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:06 PM
No I did. He asked me if I was Marty and I replied in a Marty like fashion.


Got it.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:07 PM
This guy is to be feared. Even though he looks like he could be in high school.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 06:07 PM
This is thursday night all over again get two outs and next two gets hits.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 06:09 PM
Come on Arroyo.......

Blast it. Loss today, loss tomorrow for sure.

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 06:09 PM
Agree on Victorino but I would not trade Stubbs to get him. A package of Heisey and a bullpen arm (Ondrusek, Bray, etc) + 1 third tier prospect should get it done. I'd hope the front office would try for a fair extension also.

If we have Victorino and Stubbs.....??? Gotta get rid of Stubbs if your getting a CF.

Who Dey Time
07-01-2012, 06:10 PM
Man you serve no purpose with your posts. That post is just ignorant on so many levels. Wood couldn't compete last hear. Bailey has 10 quality starts this year and news flash boss the dodgers are not the best team in the national league.

Facts have no place in Rage's thought process. His Bailey hate stops for nothing.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 06:10 PM
If we have Victorino and Stubbs.....??? Gotta get rid of Stubbs if your getting a CF.

I would offer Stubbs and Bailey, but I doubt the Phillies would want either. Both guys are deadweight.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:10 PM
Grrrr.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 06:10 PM
Horse ****

herbdizzle
07-01-2012, 06:10 PM
Victorino plays LF and Stubbs stays in CF. Ludwick becomes the 4th outfielder. Victorino mans CF on Stubbs' off days against tough RHP starters.

Who Dey Time
07-01-2012, 06:11 PM
Pretty good pitch. Nice AB for Posey.

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 06:11 PM
Arroyo not making it past the 6th today, the bullpen should be used without hesitation

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:12 PM
Pretty good pitch. Nice AB for Posey.


Yep. Posey is a tough out.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 06:12 PM
Arroyo not making it past the 6th today, the bullpen should be used without hesitation

If he can go 5 innings while only giving up 1 run, I would take it.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 06:12 PM
If he can go 5 innings while only giving up 1 run, I would take it.

Yeah, especially since the bullpen should be rested!

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 06:14 PM
Come on guys...2nd time around. Let's get some runs.

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 06:16 PM
Victorino plays LF and Stubbs stays in CF. Ludwick becomes the 4th outfielder. Victorino mans CF on Stubbs' off days against tough RHP starters.

Victorino is a 3x GG CF....and fiery as can be.....he ain't playing LF with Stubbs in CF...no way

Falcon7
07-01-2012, 06:17 PM
Something fishy about all the All Star voting in SF! With all the Silicon Valley Computer programming talent (geeks), I strongly suspect some massive automated voting had to occur. Heck even Pagan almost beat out Braun!

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 06:17 PM
I'm really getting tired of seeing Stubbs and his .230 average in there.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 06:18 PM
It would be interesting if the Reds packaged Bailey and Stubbs together, what they could get? A pinch hitter?

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 06:19 PM
It would be interesting if the Reds packaged Bailey and Stubbs together, what they could get? A pinch hitter?

Ur kidding right?

herbdizzle
07-01-2012, 06:19 PM
It's depressing to see how feeble our offense is without Votto. Makes you realize the need to upgrade the .OBP and lessen the strikeouts.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 06:19 PM
Ur kidding right?

Considering Stubbs can't hit worth bleep and Bailey looks gimp, they don't hold much value.

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 06:20 PM
I'm really getting tired of seeing Stubbs and his .230 average in there.

still rather see him than Heiseyless, the team needs new CF and LF in the offseason

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 06:20 PM
Considering Stubbs can't hit worth bleep and Bailey looks gimp, they don't hold much value.

Bailey has pitched pretty good this year....why you say he looks gimp?

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:21 PM
I hope that didn't hurt him.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 06:21 PM
still rather see him than Heiseyless, the team needs new CF and LF in the offseason

I would rather see Hiesey in center than stubbs and luddy in left. But i do think we do need to go in a new direction this offseason.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 06:22 PM
Easy out after easy out.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 06:22 PM
Bailey has pitched pretty good this year....why you say he looks gimp?

Lets see, his breaking stuff has been dead the last 3 starts, his velocity has ticked down and he won't extend his arms to fix that problem......like he is nursing something.

Bailey started out the year decently, but has had nothing lately. Not a good sign.

herbdizzle
07-01-2012, 06:22 PM
The question surrounding Bailey is how much are you willing to pay the guy? He's under team control until 2015 but is it worth it to pay him 6-8 million for his production?

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 06:22 PM
perfect game out the door, not hitter still intact

Ironman92
07-01-2012, 06:23 PM
still rather see him than Heiseyless, the team needs new CF and LF in the offseason

I'd like to see him about 60/40

Stubbs is 0 for his last 12.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 06:23 PM
Lets see, his breaking stuff has been dead the last 3 starts, his velocity has ticked down and he won't extend his arms to fix that problem......like he is nursing something.

Bailey started out the year decently, but has had nothing lately. Not a good sign.

I guess we'll see

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 06:24 PM
I'd like to see him about 60/40

Stubbs is 0 for his last 12.

Heisey gives nothing to this team though, he doesn't hit for power or average and swings at the most asinine pitches you will ever see. He's also slower than dirt for a centerfielder and isn't a threat to steal any bases

Falcon7
07-01-2012, 06:24 PM
So Bruce really made the All-Star team... :confused:

Kcbuckeye22
07-01-2012, 06:25 PM
Second look at BP hit by Pitch suggests he can act. Good play BP.

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 06:25 PM
So Bruce really made the All-Star team... :confused:

i think Larussa kinda threw the reds a bone for not getting Cueto or Phillips so people shouldn't be that upset with the man

herbdizzle
07-01-2012, 06:25 PM
Bailey is an adequate back of the rotation starter that give you consistently average production. His ERA is surprisingly consistent: 4.53, 4.46, 4.43, 4.42 (2009-2012). I like Bailey but he is not a playoff starter and I don't have a lot of confidence he will improve much from his current production.

Falcon7
07-01-2012, 06:27 PM
Rolen is hurt again, and Stubbs is well...Stubbs again. Time for Wilson.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 06:29 PM
Bailey is an adequate back of the rotation starter that give you consistently average production. His ERA is surprisingly consistent: 4.53, 4.46, 4.43, 4.42 (2009-2012). I like Bailey but he is not a playoff starter and I don't have a lot of confidence he will improve much from his current production.

Posts like this are the problem. You are pegging Homer based on production, but not in health and real "stuff". Bailey when throws his real stuff is better than a back of the rotation starter. The point "why" we aren't getting this stuff consistantly has been misread as a learning problem. It is a physical problem. He just can't do it all the time. If Homer could go through a stretch of starts sitting at about 94mph with good breaking stuff then drop off to 92mph with no breaking stuff. Something is not right physically. At best it is a period of deadarm. At worst his shoulder has flared up again.

The guy has physical problems. He just may not be able to maintain his stuff starting.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 06:30 PM
Cards beat the Pirates so what ever happens the Reds will hold their 1 game

Kcbuckeye22
07-01-2012, 06:30 PM
Baby giraffe??

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:31 PM
Why don't pitchers that are batting .079 and have struck out 22 times in 32 at-bats try to bunt more often? What could it possibly hurt? Make the other team make a play at least.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 06:31 PM
Arroyo danced out of that one

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 06:31 PM
Why don't pitchers that are batting .079 and have struck out 22 times in 47 at-bats try to bunt more often? What could it possibly hurt. Make the other team make a play at least.

In the words of the cowboy anybody with a bat is dangerous

herbdizzle
07-01-2012, 06:32 PM
Edinson Volquez had ace-level "stuff" and was electric in games he put it all together. However, no one would argue he was anything better than mediocre. Bailey has had velocity and teasing starts for several years. Call it frailty, mental weakness, bad coaching, whatever. The guy is average. He's OK as a #4-5 starter and I'm cool with that.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:36 PM
Rally.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 06:36 PM
About time

The Rage
07-01-2012, 06:36 PM
Edinson Volquez had ace-level "stuff" and was electric in games he put it all together. However, no one would argue he was anything better than mediocre. Bailey has had velocity and teasing starts for several years. Call it frailty, mental weakness, bad coaching, whatever. The guy is average. He's OK as a #4-5 starter and I'm cool with that.

Again, your not getting it. Bailey does not show ace level stuff consistantly. Period. There is no mental weakness. There is no bad coaching. He simply cannot physically throw like he needs to be a great starting pitcher on a consistant basis. Hence, the Reds fanbase has been LONG wrong about Bailey. Volquez is always electric. He just cannot command anything. Bailey literally can go from electric to dull in a successive starts.

Maybe the pen will physically agree with him in short stints. That way the 97mph fastball and sharp breaking stuff returns regularly.

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 06:36 PM
no hitter gone

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:38 PM
A gapper would be welcome.

Stray
07-01-2012, 06:41 PM
woohoo

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:41 PM
Todd! Thank you, back spasms!

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 06:41 PM
Yeah baby!!!

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 06:41 PM
Nice AB by Frazier

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 06:41 PM
yes!

The Rage
07-01-2012, 06:41 PM
yeah baby

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 06:42 PM
You can thank me for that homer. I just turned the game on after getting home from seeing 'Ted' and we immediately got two hits. I'll be here the rest of the game.

herbdizzle
07-01-2012, 06:42 PM
BOOM!! I hope Rolen's toilet related back spasms keep him out tomorrow.

tom nuetten
07-01-2012, 06:42 PM
Nice!!!

But that 3rd Ball looked like middle of the plate :laugh:

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 06:43 PM
Nice!!!

But that 3rd Ball looked like middle of the plate :laugh:

There's always one!!!

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:43 PM
How was Ted?

herbdizzle
07-01-2012, 06:45 PM
It's a decent R-rated comedy with a little heart to it. Definitely worth checking out.

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 06:45 PM
It was pretty funny but very crude. If you are into that you'd like it. I was shocked at the number of people who had their young children in there with them. I guess they saw the preview in passing and figured it was a kids' movie?

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 06:45 PM
It's a decent R-rated comedy with a little heart to it. Definitely worth checking out.

I agree.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:48 PM
Nice.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 06:49 PM
Look at Cairo!!! That's why he is on this team.....hatarade.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:53 PM
Instead of the umpire throwing a new ball into play, I would love to see a hand rise up out of the mound right next to the pitching rubber with a baseball in it. And the organist could play the theme from the Addams Family. Yes.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:55 PM
Game tied. Cabrera at second. Posey coming up. Geez.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:56 PM
Posey plunked up high.

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 06:56 PM
If that throw was cut off it looks like they would have had Cabrera out at second.

herbdizzle
07-01-2012, 06:57 PM
Damn. I was hoping Arroyo could make it through 5 with the lead. Runs are at a premium for the Reds today. Hope someone's getting warm.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 06:58 PM
Ludwick been hitting the bottle between innings?

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 06:58 PM
If Arroyo gets out of this, no way should he pitch beyond the #9 batter.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:00 PM
Inning over. Tied at two.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:01 PM
This has been a slow game. Almost two hours and not much offense.

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 07:01 PM
arroyo should be done, hasnt looked very good all day, but if he's our #5 pitcher i'll take it

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:03 PM
Stubbs fakes the bunt.

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 07:04 PM
Way to bounce back! I say let him pitch the 6th until a runner reaches 2nd. Bottom of the lineup coming up. 6-9 and 1st batter are a combined 1-9 today vs Arroyo. #2,3,4 have beat him up.

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 07:05 PM
This should be his last inning if he is ran back out there

The Rage
07-01-2012, 07:08 PM
I guess Dusty wants to lose this game.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:09 PM
I guess Dusty wants to lose this game.

Stupid post!!!

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 07:11 PM
I gotta think Bronson's got two hitters left.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:12 PM
Yeah baby

Stray
07-01-2012, 07:13 PM
hahahaha

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 07:13 PM
Love it. Get some Latos

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 07:13 PM
Whiny Giants --- the ump gets hit & they cry

Stray
07-01-2012, 07:14 PM
If you hang over the plate you can't cry when a pitch comes inside rofl

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 07:15 PM
I hope Bronson lets one slip.. haha this is getting heated

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 07:15 PM
What's going on? Gameday is way behind.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:16 PM
Benches cleared. Vogelsong was upset that Bronson came inside.

Stray
07-01-2012, 07:16 PM
What's going on? Gameday is way behind.

Giants pitcher started like he was gonna charge the mound on Arroyo for pitching him inside

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 07:16 PM
What's going on? Gameday is way behind.

Benches cleared.... nothing happened

RedsLvr
07-01-2012, 07:17 PM
As a pitcher you try to throw the ball up and in when they show bunt. Vogelsong is a pitcher, he should know that. Quit crying.

Ohayou
07-01-2012, 07:17 PM
Benches cleared. Vogelsong was upset that Bronson came inside.

I lol'd at this.

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 07:18 PM
I lol'd at this.

:laugh:

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:19 PM
Gotta love the boos

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:19 PM
I lol'd at this.

Isn't that what happened?

FloridaBuckeye
07-01-2012, 07:20 PM
E1... LeCure

Who Dey Time
07-01-2012, 07:20 PM
Arroyo clearly not at his best today. Did a nice job to still put up a good start.

FlyingPig
07-01-2012, 07:20 PM
Funny thing was that Vogelsong was fine until he turned and saw the ump go down, then he went all Meryl Streep.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 07:20 PM
Dusty playing blackjack again........

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:20 PM
Arroyo clearly not at his best today. Did a nice job to still put up a good start.

Exactly...he battled today and kept the team in the game.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:21 PM
Should be an interesting half inning

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 07:22 PM
Should be an interesting half inning

I'd welcome retaliation at this point. #1 it's getting late and we need baserunners. #2 it would be the end of the day for Vogelsong.

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 07:22 PM
Roberto Kelly is the Giants' 1st base coach. Now that was a bad trade. I know a guy who's a Yankee fan and every time I see him he says "Thank you for Paul O'neill".

FlyingPig
07-01-2012, 07:22 PM
If he hits Jay, at least it will help my fantasy team's OBP.

Ohayou
07-01-2012, 07:22 PM
Isn't that what happened?

It's how you worded it.

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 07:23 PM
It didn't look like Arroyo had much at the start of this game, 6 innings of 2 run baseball against a first place team in their home park....great job of PITCHING by Bronson. That being said, #2-#4 hitters are 5-7 with a walk and a HBP, getting on base 7 out of 9 plate appearances. That should be his last inning.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:23 PM
It's how you worded it.


Ah. Now I see.

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 07:23 PM
Jay Bruce - All Star.

The Rage
07-01-2012, 07:23 PM
Bruce with a real stinker mercy

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:24 PM
Nice hit luddy

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:26 PM
Let's get these runners home. At least one of them.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:26 PM
Nice AB

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 07:27 PM
Babe Cairo - time to come through.

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 07:27 PM
Bruce with a real stinker mercy

+1 -- but he kept the double down the line in front of him -- yeah -- looking hard for good things to say

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:27 PM
Cairo about to come up big!!!

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:27 PM
I have to tip my cap to Ludwick. He has been much better than I thought he would be.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:28 PM
If you take Votto's place you have to hit like Votto. Right?

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 07:28 PM
I have to tip my cap to Ludwick. He has been much better than I thought he would be.

and thankfully keeps Heisey on the bench

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:28 PM
Cairo about to come up big!!!

Maybe not!!!

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 07:29 PM
Come on Hanny --- I feel it

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:29 PM
Slap one to right here.

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 07:29 PM
Hanny time.

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 07:29 PM
you cant expect too much from Cairo in those situations

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 07:29 PM
Cairo hit that pretty solid, too bad the CF had to take 3-4 steps to get it.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:29 PM
Darn

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 07:29 PM
Come on Hanny --- I feel it

Must have been gas

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 07:30 PM
Another flyout, dang that was a good scoring chance by the boards.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:30 PM
Must have been gas

Lol...gotta hate that

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 07:33 PM
Was that Simon that went after the panda

The Rage
07-01-2012, 07:34 PM
Cairo is the bench version of Rolen. The party is over.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 07:34 PM
Wow not a good start

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:34 PM
Walking the first batter again.

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 07:34 PM
great job Logan

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 07:35 PM
Geez, in a place where HRs are few and far between leadoff walks will kill you

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 07:35 PM
Ondrusek is a real champ at coming in and walking the first hitter.

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:35 PM
I am surprised they bunted Cabrera. Take that out.

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 07:35 PM
great bunt --- rarely done that way by our guys.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:36 PM
Geez, in a place where HRs are few and far between leadoff walks will kill you

Actually I'd rather have a leadoff walk here than at GABP

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 07:36 PM
great bunt --- rarely done that way by our guys.

which is why the Reds are a bad team in 1 run games

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 07:36 PM
We rarely lose when Daren Baker is in the house.

AnythingCincy
07-01-2012, 07:38 PM
Walk him

texasdave
07-01-2012, 07:38 PM
That hurt. Theriot on third with one away. Gutsy play by Theriot. Doesn't matter. Posey singles to center.

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 07:39 PM
What I mean is in this park, SF is playing for that 1 run. Putting a guy on second with 1 out with your #4 and #5 hitters coming up is a better chance of scoring rather than anyone of them hitting a HR.

Walks are def not good in GABP....but look what that walk has done.

RedsFanInBama
07-01-2012, 07:39 PM
Logan used to be much better.

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 07:39 PM
This is textbook on how to give one away.

Stray
07-01-2012, 07:39 PM
Ondrusek has really sucked more and more as the year has gone on

Maker_84
07-01-2012, 07:40 PM
Logan used to be much better.

idk whatever happened to him, but whatever did happen has made him an awful pitcher and very unreliable

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:40 PM
What I mean is in this park, SF is playing for that 1 run. Putting a guy on second with 1 out with your #4 and #5 hitters coming up is a better chance of scoring rather than anyone of them hitting a HR.

Walks are def not good in GABP....but look what that walk has done.

I get what ur saying now....just thought u were talking leadoff walks in general.

Mutaman
07-01-2012, 07:40 PM
Ondrusek can't pitch when he pitches to often and he can't pitch when he has too much rest. I think the problem is above his shoulders.

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 07:40 PM
Logan has looked pretty bad for a while -- maybe should swap with Sam in the pecking order

Red Raindog
07-01-2012, 07:41 PM
what a DP!

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:41 PM
Nice turn BP

The Rage
07-01-2012, 07:41 PM
It isn't above the shoulders. He just tires easily. Now he probably needs more work. Sorta of like the Bailey of the bullpen.

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 07:41 PM
Did you just see that turn....WOW

bleedsred
07-01-2012, 07:43 PM
Lets say Heisey and Cozart reach, do you hit Valdez for Stubbs? I do....here is to hoping we get to find out what Dusty would do.

dubc47834
07-01-2012, 07:44 PM
Romo got lucky on that one