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Who Dey Time
07-07-2012, 07:02 PM
Cozart SS
Stubbs CF
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Frazier 3B
Heisey LF
Mesoraco C
Bailey P

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 07:05 PM
Another easy win tonight. Reds pretty good....Padres are the 2nd worst team in baseball.

Reds 9
Dads 2

Stray
07-07-2012, 07:06 PM
I thought we'd see Rolen try to go tonight, the longer this drags out the more likely it is that he just can't play this year. He's hurting more than he's not.

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 07:08 PM
I thought we'd see Rolen try to go tonight, the longer this drags out the more likely it is that he just can't play this year. He's hurting more than he's not.

Meh....just play Frazier every day. You have Luddy/Heisey and Cairo for a bench.

Redsfan08
07-07-2012, 07:09 PM
I like having Frazier starting evryday

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 07:10 PM
For those that care....Pirates and Cards both won.

Stray
07-07-2012, 07:21 PM
Meh....just play Frazier every day. You have Luddy/Heisey and Cairo for a bench.

Yea it's what's best for the team.

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 07:30 PM
Yea it's what's best for the team.

It's obviously not....but how many games has not playing Rolen has it cost us?

DocRed
07-07-2012, 07:36 PM
It's good to be Drew Stubbs...talk about job security, its good to know performance has no bearing on playing time.

FloridaBuckeye
07-07-2012, 07:45 PM
Its storming like a :censored: right now... hopefully it stops soon... ill be pissed if we lose power for the game

Stray
07-07-2012, 07:47 PM
It's obviously not....but how many games has not playing Rolen has it cost us?

Nah I think Rolen being out has helped Ludwick get going, and we really need Frazier's bat. We lose a little defense but overall I think we're better.

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 07:58 PM
I thought we'd see Rolen try to go tonight, the longer this drags out the more likely it is that he just can't play this year. He's hurting more than he's not.

Thank goodness Rolen is not ready --- how sad is that to have to say?

:eek:

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 07:59 PM
It's obviously not....but how many games has not playing Rolen has it cost us?

my guess?

none

Stray
07-07-2012, 08:13 PM
Dusty said Rolen is actually ready but Frazier is playing good and hitting lefties well.

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 08:20 PM
Dusty said Rolen is actually ready but Frazier is playing good and hitting lefties well.

well yes -- and he's hitting righties too -- at least better than most of the other 3B on this roster

Tuff Nut
07-07-2012, 08:43 PM
I thought Brandon was supposed to have set Dusty str8 on this? Musta been a mistweet.

brm7675
07-07-2012, 08:46 PM
Reds follow last night with a 5 hit 2 run effort...

Votto4MVP
07-07-2012, 08:51 PM
Reds follow last night with a 5 hit 2 run effort...

Have you ever made a positive prediction in your life?

FloridaBuckeye
07-07-2012, 09:10 PM
Reds follow last night with a 5 hit 2 run effort...

We have our first negative nancy of the night ... :beerme:

brm7675
07-07-2012, 09:15 PM
Have you ever made a positive prediction in your life?

Did I say they would lose?

FloridaBuckeye
07-07-2012, 10:08 PM
only one more late night folks... happy or sad?

FloridaBuckeye
07-07-2012, 10:09 PM
STUBBS!

AnythingCincy
07-07-2012, 10:11 PM
Wow Stubbs other way. That's twice in 2 games gotta feel good for him.

FloridaBuckeye
07-07-2012, 10:11 PM
crickets tonight... no action

AnythingCincy
07-07-2012, 10:16 PM
Didn't last long

FloridaBuckeye
07-07-2012, 10:16 PM
Homer = Homer

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 10:18 PM
Stubbs goes oppo for 2 consecutive extra base hits.....no complaints when these players go with the pitch and hit it.....it works for every darn player (haven't really seen Cozy do it)....why do they go so long just trying to pull everything.

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 10:18 PM
Homer looking atrocious after 2 hitters.


Get the off speed working!

bleedsred
07-07-2012, 10:18 PM
Coaching

AnythingCincy
07-07-2012, 10:20 PM
They are teeing off on Homer

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 10:22 PM
Not Reds related....but Andruw Jones just hit his 3rd HR of the day against the Red Sox. Also has 2 web gem plays in LF.

Brisco
07-07-2012, 10:25 PM
A good game in terms of Reds draft picks. There are 10 on the field:

Votto
Cozart
Frazier
Heisey
Stubbs
Bruce
Mesoraco
Alonso
Grandal
Denorfia

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 10:25 PM
Not Reds related....but Andruw Jones just hit his 3rd HR of the day against the Red Sox. Also has 2 web gem plays in LF.

yeah -I saw the diving catch -- looked like he was 10 years younger on that one

The Rage
07-07-2012, 10:26 PM
Either Bailey physically blew his load or his mechanics are off again. I can't tell. If it his mechanics, maybe he needs to stay taller longer through his leg kick which provides the extension in his arms. His fastball was weak either way.

FloridaBuckeye
07-07-2012, 10:28 PM
Im already yawning and its only top 2

FloridaBuckeye
07-07-2012, 10:30 PM
Lots of hard contact tonight... #nohomo

dubc47834
07-07-2012, 10:33 PM
Either Bailey physically blew his load or his mechanics are off again. I can't tell. If it his mechanics, maybe he needs to stay taller longer through his leg kick which provides the extension in his arms. His fastball was weak either way.

The ol pitching coach is on tonite fellas.....lucky us!!!!

The Rage
07-07-2012, 10:37 PM
The ol pitching coach is on tonite fellas.....lucky us!!!!

hehe. Notice his slider started to clock in at 90mph. That is where it should be rather than the 86-88 it has been. Sounds like we may have the answer to the Homer mystery. If he ever gets down the "feel" of his mechanics, he could be a good one. Right now, he is a contributer and nothing more.

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 10:39 PM
Im already yawning and its only top 2

same here -- worked at our business & had to help load some trucks in the 102 heat --- no way I'm making it far in tonight's game.

dubc47834
07-07-2012, 10:40 PM
hehe. Notice his slider started to clock in at 90mph. That is where it should be rather than the 86-88 it has been. Sounds like we may have the answer to the Homer mystery. If he ever gets down the "feel" of his mechanics, he could be a good one. Right now, he is a contributer and nothing more.

Can't watch the game tonite...on the road....gotta rely on you guys. Uh oh, I'm in trouble....lol

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 10:42 PM
Can't watch the game tonite...on the road....gotta rely on you guys. Uh oh, I'm in trouble....lol

Well if it was in GABP it would be about 5-4.....with everyone sweating bullets.

FloridaBuckeye
07-07-2012, 10:42 PM
same here -- worked at our business & had to help load some trucks in the 102 heat --- no way I'm making it far in tonight's game.

I think i dozed off in the 6th last night... seemed to work :laugh:

The Rage
07-07-2012, 10:43 PM
Well if it was in GABP it would be about 5-4.....with everyone sweating bullets.

Yeah, Bailey would have had 4 bombs in the first inning, awful.

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 10:43 PM
Have to agree with Thom -- wt? with Bryce Harper getting picked for the All Star team?

my guess -- Tony wanted to make the history picking choice of the youngest ever picked -- even if it wasn't earned

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 10:43 PM
Why can't they make Bobbleheads look like the players? Lol

How many of you have the Adam Dunn/David Letterman bobblehead?

FloridaBuckeye
07-07-2012, 10:43 PM
That Jay Bruce bobblehead looks nothing like Jay Bruce

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 10:44 PM
I think i dozed off in the 6th last night... seemed to work :laugh:

I woke back up in the 8th!

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 10:44 PM
Have to agree with Thom -- wt? with Bryce Harper getting picked for the All Star team?

my guess -- Tony wanted to make the history picking choice of the youngest ever picked -- even if it wasn't earned

He doesn't deserve it yet....and he's probably going to be in a dozen deservedly....but as a baseball fan, I'm happy he's going.

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 10:47 PM
He doesn't deserve it yet....and he's probably going to be in a dozen deservedly....but as a baseball fan, I'm happy he's going.

I just think it was more about Tony than anything else -- does it look like I'm not a Tony fan?

:laugh:

BTW -- Homer looks better

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 10:51 PM
we're making it easy for Pad pitcher - swing early - swing often

The Rage
07-07-2012, 10:52 PM
Hopefully that isn't it with Bailey on the mound. Padres are a bad bad hitting team. That was some meh stuff from Bailey that inning.

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 10:56 PM
9 pitch inning for Homer -- the Reds saw 7 in their half

The Rage
07-07-2012, 11:00 PM
Frazier likes those low ones.

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 11:00 PM
Frazier with agressive running to get a double!

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 11:01 PM
Heisey just about got the pitcher's head

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 11:02 PM
wow -- situational hitting

FloridaBuckeye
07-07-2012, 11:03 PM
Bailey!!!

The Rage
07-07-2012, 11:05 PM
Better hitter than pitcher?

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 11:07 PM
Better hitter than pitcher?

come on -- he's been very useful most of this year ---

:thumbup:

Stray
07-07-2012, 11:11 PM
this game is flying

Stray
07-07-2012, 11:14 PM
Needed a stronger arm and we had him

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:14 PM
Let's take a second against the Padres to look at what Tony Gwynn did as a Padres player.

Played 20 seasons....

* career avg .338

* from 1993-1997 his batting average was .368

* most remember him being heavy, stole over 300 SB including 56 in one season

* had more walks than strikeouts 19 out of 20 seasons

* from age 30 on he played 12 seasons....only one time did he strikeout 25 or more times in a season....and the year he did he had 28 whiffs in 651 plate appearances and hit .372

* in his final 12 seasons he struck out once out of every 31 plate appearances

* 8x batting champ

* 5x Gold Glove

* his final season at age 41 and vastly overweight he hit .324.

Loved Tony Gwynn

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 11:15 PM
Needed a stronger arm and we had him

yes -- Gomes would of had him!

:laugh:

Stray
07-07-2012, 11:15 PM
lol

BluegrassRedleg
07-07-2012, 11:15 PM
Wish I had a stat available that showed how many times Homer is handed a lead in the middle innings and goes right back out and coughs it up the next inning.

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:15 PM
Needed a stronger arm and we had him

Or for Homer to not throw the ball away...or slower runner

BluegrassRedleg
07-07-2012, 11:16 PM
Let's take a second against the Padres to look at what Tony Gwynn did as a Padres player.

Played 20 seasons....

* career avg .338

* from 1993-1997 his batting average was .368

* most remember him being heavy, stole over 300 SB including 56 in one season

* had more walks than strikeouts 19 out of 20 seasons

* from age 30 on he played 12 seasons....only one time did he strikeout 25 or more times in a season....and the year he did he had 28 whiffs in 651 plate appearances and hit .372

* in his final 12 seasons he struck out once out of every 31 plate appearances

* 8x batting champ

* 5x Gold Glove

* his final season at age 41 and vastly overweight he hit .324.

Loved Tony Gwynn


One of my all-time favorite non-Reds. Maybe at the top of the list. A true pro.

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:16 PM
Stay tough Homer

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:18 PM
It evens out.

Stray
07-07-2012, 11:18 PM
nice pitch

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 11:18 PM
Or for Homer to not throw the ball away...or slower runner

true ---- go post something somewhere so you get to a 1,000

at this rate you'll NEVER catch TexasDave

Votto4MVP
07-07-2012, 11:21 PM
Love Votto obviously, who doesnt, but hes only seen like 4 pitches this game. Wonder if it has anything to do with the knee.

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 11:21 PM
Love Votto obviously, who doesnt, but hes only seen like 4 pitches this game. Wonder if it has anything to do with the knee.

was thinking the same

The Rage
07-07-2012, 11:22 PM
Nice, Bailey's own error saves his ERA a run lol.

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 11:28 PM
Bruce with ANOTHER brain cramp

BluegrassRedleg
07-07-2012, 11:29 PM
Great googly moogly.

That's the kind of thing that tends to throw Homer's focus off, too.

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:29 PM
Willie Mays just threw up.

xsteve1
07-07-2012, 11:30 PM
Heisey doesn't have much of an arm.

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 11:31 PM
and the dinker drops in & Heisey's throw isn't close -- and no one else was throwing him out either

BluegrassRedleg
07-07-2012, 11:31 PM
I never realized how poor Heisey's arm was until tonight. Geez. He was 40 feet behind shortstop on that one and still couldn't throw a strike home.

The Rage
07-07-2012, 11:31 PM
Not a good defensive night.

The Red Baron
07-07-2012, 11:32 PM
Jay Bruce might be the most overrated defensive outfielder in the bigs

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:32 PM
Heisey doesn't have much of an arm.

Took a perfect throw for a shot....runner broke on contact. CarGo might be the only LF to throw him out on that.

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 11:33 PM
I never realized how poor Heisey's arm was until tonight. Geez. He was 40 feet behind shortstop on that one and still couldn't throw a strike home.

He wasn't going to get him but I think I could have thrown a better one than that & I've had 4 surgeries on my throwing arm in the last 10 years!

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:33 PM
Jay Bruce might be the most overrated defensive outfielder in the bigs

Too many oopsies

The DARK
07-07-2012, 11:33 PM
Took a perfect throw for a shot....runner broke on contact. CarGo might be the only LF to throw him out on that.

Not sure about that. He was charging and pretty close to SS, so it should have at least reached the catcher.

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:34 PM
Yonder takes some powerful swings

BluegrassRedleg
07-07-2012, 11:35 PM
He wasn't going to get him but I think I could have thrown a better one than that & I've had 4 surgeries on my throwing arm in the last 10 years!

Exactly. I'm not saying he should have thrown the guy out, just that the throw was remarkably weak for a major leaguer.

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 11:36 PM
Bailey :owned: Alonso

The Rage
07-07-2012, 11:37 PM
Here we go again, game should be 3-1 or 3-2 at the worst, but this team makes stupid plays.

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:38 PM
The first Reds game I went to Heisey threw a guy out at home from fairly deep LF.....it's a full-out play. Full speed to the ball, crow hop/gather and full-throttle fire.... Heisey did the first two parts great but didn't release at right moment...holding on a touch long.....Bruce has a very good arm and I've seen him do that multiple times this year on that same play.

It wasn't a very good throw....but Bruce was the problem.

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 11:38 PM
Here we go again, game should be 3-1 or 3-2 at the worst, but this team makes stupid plays.

Next up -- a baserunning blunder?

I'm off to bed after Frazier -- play nice with each other

Votto4MVP
07-07-2012, 11:39 PM
Here we go again, game should be 3-1 or 3-2 at the worst, but this team makes stupid plays.

Why do you watch?

The Rage
07-07-2012, 11:40 PM
Why do you watch?

It is the thrill of it all

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:40 PM
Wondering something....Heisey has ripped two balls today against the lefty...he rarely plays against lefties...Luddy gets those starts?

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 11:40 PM
Yeah -- Rolen -- please sit down with the sunflower seeds -- good night

The Rage
07-07-2012, 11:41 PM
Yeah -- Rolen -- please sit down with the sunflower seeds -- good night

Scottie baseball.

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:42 PM
My golf game is like Frazier's baseball play.....kinda ugly but overall effective

The DARK
07-07-2012, 11:42 PM
Where would we be this season without Todd Frazier's performance?

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:42 PM
Heisey says suck my weak arm!

The Rage
07-07-2012, 11:42 PM
Frazier and Heisey carrying this team tonight(at the plate).

The DARK
07-07-2012, 11:42 PM
HEISEY! Nice time for that power to show up again.

BluegrassRedleg
07-07-2012, 11:42 PM
Heisey says I may not be able to throw, but I can swing a little. :)

Votto4MVP
07-07-2012, 11:42 PM
Atta boy Heisey!

I'd give bailey 1 more inning...what do you guys say?

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:43 PM
Where would we be this season without Todd Frazier's performance?

I'd be here in my leather recliner growling about Dusty and Stubbs.

Red Raindog
07-07-2012, 11:43 PM
My golf game is like Frazier's baseball play.....kinda ugly but overall effective

I'll forgive those weak throws --- I think we got this one with Mes hitting him too

George Foster
07-07-2012, 11:43 PM
Frazier and Heisey carrying this team tonight(at the plate).

Dusty has already said Rolen is playing tomorrow...who sets? I say Start Heisey in center and frazier in Left.

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:44 PM
Heisey picked up Bruce about 10 minutes after you guys thought he should.

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:45 PM
Dusty has already said Rolen is playing tomorrow...who sets? I say Start Heisey in center and frazier in Left.

Are you lost? Stubbs is the CF silly rabbit.

Maker_84
07-07-2012, 11:45 PM
Thank god. Do we put homer in for another inning?

Votto4MVP
07-07-2012, 11:47 PM
Thank god. Do we put homer in for another inning?

Looks like it. Id give him 1 more unless he gets into trouble.

Bullpen is going to have to pitch at least two tonight, hopefully they are on their game.

George Foster
07-07-2012, 11:47 PM
Are you lost? Stubbs is the CF silly rabbit.

I know what Dusty is going to do...I'm stating wh SHOULD be starting. Heisey has several starts in center. Heck I would set Rolen tomorrow and go with the same line up. How can you take Frazier out of the lineup?

Votto4MVP
07-07-2012, 11:47 PM
Stubbs needs to get the job done here. Give us a three run lead.

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:48 PM
Does Berry know Stubbs is going to hit a 3 run HR or should he have sent him?

The DARK
07-07-2012, 11:48 PM
Glad to see us finally manage a sac bunt from a pitcher and a simple hit from the leadoff guy.

xsteve1
07-07-2012, 11:48 PM
Let Heisey play for Bruce tomorrow. Bruce has been bad on this trip.

George Foster
07-07-2012, 11:48 PM
just hit it to the right side,,,,hard to double up

George Foster
07-07-2012, 11:49 PM
Let Heisey play for Bruce tomorrow. Bruce has been bad on this trip.

not a bad idea.

Votto4MVP
07-07-2012, 11:50 PM
Let Heisey play for Bruce tomorrow. Bruce has been bad on this trip.

If its a righty pitcher I think you have to still play Jay.

The Rage
07-07-2012, 11:50 PM
not a bad idea.

But Jay's a all-star with his powerful 825ops. While Cueto gets a free week.

Votto4MVP
07-07-2012, 11:51 PM
Good job drew.

Tadasimha
07-07-2012, 11:51 PM
Legged that one out!

George Foster
07-07-2012, 11:51 PM
just hit it to the right side,,,,hard to double up

left side..:beerme:

Stray
07-07-2012, 11:51 PM
hard guy to double up, man he gets down the line

BluegrassRedleg
07-07-2012, 11:51 PM
Bat on ball, positive result. See, it's not that hard, Stubby.

Tadasimha
07-07-2012, 11:52 PM
How've we looked tonight? Just got back from a local minor league game.

George Foster
07-07-2012, 11:52 PM
I would pitch to Brandon

Stray
07-07-2012, 11:52 PM
How've we looked tonight? Just got back from a local minor league game.

Bruce dropped a flyball, Homer gave up a Homer, but overall not too shabby.

The Rage
07-07-2012, 11:53 PM
How've we looked tonight? Just got back from a local minor league game.

Solid pitching, hitting and bad defense from the killer B's.

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:53 PM
Throw about knocked out Stubbs

xsteve1
07-07-2012, 11:53 PM
When Stubbs gets on base this team is so much better.

Votto4MVP
07-07-2012, 11:53 PM
Come on BP, put this game out of reach.

Stray
07-07-2012, 11:54 PM
When Stubbs gets on base this team is so much better.

I just wish he'd get on base more. Our record when he scores is unreal...something like 30-2 if we win tonight.

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:54 PM
Let Heisey play for Bruce tomorrow. Bruce has been bad on this trip.

Bruce and Stubbs play every day.

George Foster
07-07-2012, 11:54 PM
When Stubbs gets on base this team is so much better.

I read a couple of week ago, when he scores they have only lost like 2 games:eek:

The DARK
07-07-2012, 11:54 PM
Silly Yas. Corky could have taught you so much... :laugh:

xsteve1
07-07-2012, 11:54 PM
BP is in a Jay Bruce type of funk right now.

Ironman92
07-07-2012, 11:55 PM
I just wish he'd get on base more. Our record when he scores is unreal...something like 30-2 if we win tonight.

I found the off-setting stat that is just as unbelievable.

Tadasimha
07-07-2012, 11:55 PM
I read a couple of week ago, when he scores they have only lost like 2 games:eek:

That's just amazing!

BluegrassRedleg
07-07-2012, 11:55 PM
We going to see A:roll:dis for the first time in about 5-6 day?

Stray
07-07-2012, 11:57 PM
I found the off-setting stat that is just as unbelievable.

When he doesn't get on base we're 2-30 lol? It really does seem that he's the guy that gets the offense going, as tough as that is to believe.

George Foster
07-07-2012, 11:57 PM
I found the off-setting stat that is just as unbelievable.

you can't steal first....hitting in front of Joey Votto is the best position to bat in MLB and he is hitting like .215 just shows how bad he is. No one in baseball see's more fastballs in an at-bat than Stubbs.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 12:00 AM
I read a couple of week ago, when he scores they have only lost like 2 games:eek:

In the 29 games Stubbs has played and the Reds have lost....he's scored 2 runs with 2 RBI and is 11/106 with and only 1 extra base hit (2B)

In our 29 losses with Stubbs playing

Avg .104
OB % .174
Slug % .113

OPS .287

I've never seen anything close to that ever.

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:01 AM
I said before this road trip, if we go 5-6 or 6-5 it is a good road trip. The longest road trip all season right before the all-star break, to the West Coast is brutal.

We can't help what the Pirates are doing, they are hot, they will come back down to earth.

If we win tonight, we are 5-5 on this trip.

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:02 AM
In the 29 games Stubbs has played and the Reds have lost....he's scored 2 runs with 2 RBI and is 11/106 with and only 1 extra base hit (2B)

In our 29 losses with Stubbs playing

Avg .104
OB % .174
Slug % .113

OPS .287

I've never seen anything close to that ever.

that's crazy

The DARK
07-08-2012, 12:03 AM
The problem with Stubbs is and has always been his lack of pitch recognition. He just doesn't know what's coming, and looks like he's guessing on almost every pitch. Batting in front of Votto only helps if you can take advantage of the pitches you see.

Meanwhile, Bailey looks quite good. Throwing a lot of strikes.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 12:05 AM
When Stubbs does not score a run.....the Reds are 6-28

Falcon7
07-08-2012, 12:06 AM
Stubbs was lucky on that steal, almost came to a complete stop, trying to dodge the SS, ya gotta slide Drew!

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 12:06 AM
BTW

:beerme:

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:06 AM
I've never seen a team's record affected by one guys success like that. Well at least not to these kinds of extremes. It makes his slumps and bad at bats more frustrating to be honest.

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:07 AM
Our bullpen has sucked hard lately.

Falcon7
07-08-2012, 12:07 AM
What did the best RF in baseball do, I missed it?

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 12:07 AM
Stubbs was lucky on that steal, almost came to a complete stop, trying to dodge the SS, ya gotta slide Drew!

Leads baseball in fewest slides.

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:07 AM
I said before this road trip, if we go 5-6 or 6-5 it is a good road trip. The longest road trip all season right before the all-star break, to the West Coast is brutal.

We can't help what the Pirates are doing, they are hot, they will come back down to earth.

If we win tonight, we are 5-5 on this trip.

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:08 AM
I really do like going to Arredondo for the lefty tho.

The Rage
07-08-2012, 12:09 AM
A Mayish start from Bailey. Not the mechanical "pureness" of the last 3 innings vs. the Dodgers but good enough against this team.

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:09 AM
come on jose

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 12:09 AM
What did the best RF in baseball do, I missed it?

So did he.

On a pretty well hit ball mostly over his head he broke back well but not full go, looked up to check out where the fence was and on the front edge of the warning track tried an unnecessary basket catch and missed it....ugly. Willie Mays puked.

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:10 AM
A Mayish start from Bailey. Not the mechanical "pureness" of the last 3 innings vs. the Dodgers but good enough against this team.

The 2 errors cost him 2 unearned runs. should be 6-1

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:10 AM
the bullpen strikes again

Votto4MVP
07-08-2012, 12:10 AM
Well there goes the quality start streak....

Just win the game though.

Falcon7
07-08-2012, 12:11 AM
Far from over...

Maker_84
07-08-2012, 12:11 AM
Why is it hard for our BP to throw strikes with runners on?

The Rage
07-08-2012, 12:11 AM
It still is considered a quality start due to the errors. This pen has had a bad last 5 weeks. They simply don't perform.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 12:11 AM
What did the best RF in baseball do, I missed it?

Sorry, didn't answer your question. He went 0-4 with 3 K

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:11 AM
come on.....stike him out.

Votto4MVP
07-08-2012, 12:12 AM
It still is considered a quality start due to the errors. This pen has had a bad last 5 weeks. They simply don't perform.

Oh I was mistaken. I thought it was runs, not earned runs.

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:13 AM
Oh I was mistaken. I thought it was runs, not earned runs.

I would say our pen is one of the LEAST worked in baseball with 8 complete games. It is 8 right?

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:13 AM
I'm with Thom here, just get the guy out.

RedsFanInBama
07-08-2012, 12:14 AM
Headley reminds me of Parkman from 'Major League 2' with those beady eyes.

Votto4MVP
07-08-2012, 12:14 AM
Alright, tough to put too much blame on jose there, a weak seeing eye single, but struck out the next guy.

Hopefully Marshall and Chapman can close this one out, dont really wanna see logan again.

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:14 AM
I dread Marshalls slow hanging curve ball in the 8th inning...

The Rage
07-08-2012, 12:15 AM
I would say our pen is one of the LEAST worked in baseball with 8 complete games. It is 8 right?

2 Cueto
2 Latos
1 Leake
1 Bailey
1 Arroyo

Looks like 7 unless I am forgetting one from April.

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:15 AM
2 Cueto
2 Latos
1 Leake
1 Bailey
1 Arroyo

Looks like 7 unless I am forgetting one from April.

thanks....

The DARK
07-08-2012, 12:16 AM
Innings like that happen from time to time. No home runs or walks, just bloop hits that fall. Fortunately, our offense has been up to snuff so far.

The DARK
07-08-2012, 12:18 AM
Also, the key stat: No walks issued by our pitching today. Very important in this park, especially with a lead.

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:18 AM
wow how have we scored 6 runs with Votto, Phillips and Bruce going 1-12..??

RedsFanInBama
07-08-2012, 12:22 AM
That guy made us look stupid.

The Rage
07-08-2012, 12:23 AM
Also, the key stat: No walks issued by our pitching today. Very important in this park, especially with a lead.

Yeah, especially after the first inning the Padres found a bunch seeing eye singles and bloopers coupled with the errors, allowed them to score more than usual. No walks deters the damage a good deal.

The DARK
07-08-2012, 12:23 AM
Dang, that was probably a questionable non-strike call away from being an immaculate inning.

Falcon7
07-08-2012, 12:24 AM
BP really showing LaRussa, what a huge mistake he made...

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:24 AM
hmmm

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:24 AM
I dread Marshalls slow hanging curve ball in the 8th inning...

I hate seeing the future....

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:26 AM
You gotta look at Arredondo like he's a lefty. That's why I think Simon deserves a bigger role and why I think Hoover should be on the team.

Tadasimha
07-08-2012, 12:26 AM
Strike 4, ump

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:28 AM
strike 5 gets him lol

RedsFanInBama
07-08-2012, 12:28 AM
Marshall is depressing to watch pitch. Knowing he can only throw one pitch.

Tadasimha
07-08-2012, 12:28 AM
Way to stay focused, Marshall. Time to roll two!

The Rage
07-08-2012, 12:28 AM
This umps small strikezone.........Marshall got him anyway.

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:29 AM
I hate seeing the future....

make the pictures in my mind stop!!!!

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:29 AM
I dunno maybe it was too far away, but that's a ball it seems like Votto always gets when he's 100%. That wasn't hard hit at all.

The Rage
07-08-2012, 12:29 AM
Jocketty may have to deal for another power arm in the pen. These guys struggle to get people out.

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:30 AM
Jocketty may have to deal for another power arm in the pen. These guys struggle to get people out.

guys are sitting on the curve...its only effective if you don't know its coming

The DARK
07-08-2012, 12:30 AM
Confusing zone here.

RedsFanInBama
07-08-2012, 12:31 AM
When you throw 80 percent curves, it makes it a little easier for the hitter to sit on a pitch.

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:32 AM
When you throw 80 percent curves, it makes it a little easier for the hitter to sit on a pitch.

80%?? how about 100% your right though

RedsFanInBama
07-08-2012, 12:33 AM
80%?? how about 100% your right though

Well, he has thrown a couple fastballs. Maybe 90 percent is more accurate.

RedsFanInBama
07-08-2012, 12:33 AM
I'm scared to death at this moment.

The DARK
07-08-2012, 12:34 AM
80%?? how about 100% your right though

The real number is around 45%, at least coming into the season. This would be a fine time for another K.

RedsFanInBama
07-08-2012, 12:36 AM
Marshall blows.

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:36 AM
Marshall has nothing but that curve...that fastball was highschool stuff...bring in Champman

The Rage
07-08-2012, 12:36 AM
Bailey can't be a happy camper right now.

BluegrassRedleg
07-08-2012, 12:37 AM
Dusty, Dusty, Dusty. :bang:

Falcon7
07-08-2012, 12:37 AM
Marshall has nothing but that curve...that fastball was highschool stuff...bring in Champman

Why, throw the FB!

GoReds19
07-08-2012, 12:37 AM
1 more hit and this is a tie ballgame.

RedsFanInBama
07-08-2012, 12:37 AM
Can Chapman not get four outs? He's barely pitched lately.

Maker_84
07-08-2012, 12:37 AM
This is depressing

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:38 AM
Why, throw the FB!

the same guy hit a 500 foot home fun thursday night off of him.

RedsFanInBama
07-08-2012, 12:38 AM
This is pitiful.

The Rage
07-08-2012, 12:38 AM
The Cubs are laughing it up right now

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:38 AM
now we get Ondrusek, this pen is terrible right now

The DARK
07-08-2012, 12:39 AM
First genuinely ugly at-bat today. Probably time to bring in Chapman.

EDIT: Nope, Ondrusek.

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:39 AM
I dread Marshalls slow hanging curve ball in the 8th inning...

:(:(:(

BluegrassRedleg
07-08-2012, 12:39 AM
Chapman hasn't pitched since 7/2. Where the hell is he???

RedsFanInBama
07-08-2012, 12:39 AM
What a clown. Chapman was going to be a starter at the beginning of the year, but his arm is going to fall off if he has to get four outs?

Pitiful bullpen work.

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:40 AM
I don't really like the idea of going to Ondrusek or Chapman when a walk ties the game...

The Rage
07-08-2012, 12:40 AM
This reminds me of Lecure all over again.........Where is the closer at? The guy with the best pure stuff to handle this situation?

RedsFanInBama
07-08-2012, 12:40 AM
I don't really like the idea of going to Ondrusek or Chapman when a walk ties the game...

Chapman should have been in two batters ago.

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:40 AM
now we get Ondrusek, this pen is terrible right now

I'm HACKING at the first pitch if I'm the Padres right now..

Maker_84
07-08-2012, 12:41 AM
Chapman should have been in two batters ago.

Chapman is terrible in these situations

GoReds19
07-08-2012, 12:41 AM
now we get Ondrusek, this pen is terrible right now

I bet he gets the job done.

Falcon7
07-08-2012, 12:41 AM
the same guy hit a 500 foot home fun thursday night off of him.

It was his rarely thrown 90 mph slider per Welsh, but I thought it was a FB.
He did not look good trying to hit those slow curves...

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:41 AM
Lets not forget it wasn't too many appearances ago that we weren't sure if Chapman should be closing lol.

There's a lotta shaky guys down there.

The Rage
07-08-2012, 12:42 AM
Uh, that was a strike.........

Tadasimha
07-08-2012, 12:42 AM
Nicely done, Logan

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:42 AM
i have to poop now....:eek:

Falcon7
07-08-2012, 12:43 AM
Need about 4 more this inning.

The DARK
07-08-2012, 12:43 AM
Logan won't strike out many, but if you need a guy to come in with 2 outs to cool things off, he's generally your man. It's in Chapman's hands now.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 12:43 AM
I remember a lot of folks who loved that Marshall trade. Looks like some scout dropped the ball.

bleedsred
07-08-2012, 12:43 AM
What I don't get is how Dusty is about the batting order but yet throws Marshall to lead off the inning against CQ a RH batter.

RedsFanInBama
07-08-2012, 12:43 AM
How many times this year has Marshall been sent out to work an inning only to have to be rescued by Ondrusek? Dusty needs to kill it with the idea of Marshall being an "8th inning man" and use him as a matchup pitcher.

The Rage
07-08-2012, 12:43 AM
i have to poop now....:eek:

So much for laxatives, just watch the Reds...........

Maker_84
07-08-2012, 12:43 AM
Nice job Logan. I really cant understand how Marshall has been so bad lately

bleedsred
07-08-2012, 12:44 AM
I still like Marshall, we just need a manager who knows how to work his staff.

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:44 AM
What I don't get is how Dusty is about the batting order but yet throws Marshall to lead off the inning against CQ a RH batter.

I wish he'd use Simon more, he's earned it.

bleedsred
07-08-2012, 12:45 AM
How many times this year has Marshall been sent out to work an inning only to have to be rescued by Ondrusek? Dusty needs to kill it with the idea of Marshall being an "8th inning man" and use him as a matchup pitcher.

THIS

The DARK
07-08-2012, 12:45 AM
How many times this year has Marshall been sent out to work an inning only to have to be rescued by Ondrusek? Dusty needs to kill it with the idea of Marshall being an "8th inning man" and use him as a matchup pitcher.

My guess is that happens upon Masset's return, since that's a role he's familiar with. Marshall is nasty when used correctly (not as closer or all-purpose setup guy)

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:46 AM
Nice job Logan. I really cant understand how Marshall has been so bad lately

the scouting report has cought up with him. "throws mostly slow curves, lay off of it unless its up in the zone. If it starts in the zone it will be a ball." When he's behind in the count will groove one right down broadway."

bleedsred
07-08-2012, 12:46 AM
If the Reds lose this one chalk up another one on Dusty....

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:46 AM
the scouting report has cought up with him. "throws mostly slow curves, lay off of it unless its up in the zone. If it starts in the zone it will be a ball." When he's behind in the count will groove one right down broadway."

That's been his scouting report for years now.

GoReds19
07-08-2012, 12:47 AM
I still like Marshall, we just need a manager who knows how to work his staff.

So putting in his setup guy to start the 8th inning, is considered poorly working his staff?

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 12:47 AM
Marshall ought to be able to come into this ball park against this team and pitch that 8th inning 1-2-3. If you need Baker to baby him along to have him get an out, then this team is in trouble.

RedsFanInBama
07-08-2012, 12:47 AM
So putting in his setup guy to start the 8th inning, is considered poorly working his staff?

Naming this pitcher "setup guy" was the bad move.

George Foster
07-08-2012, 12:48 AM
Naming this pitcher "setup guy" was the bad move.

+1...

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 12:48 AM
So putting in his setup guy to start the 8th inning, is considered poorly working his staff?

Its called second guessing, Sun Deck style.

Stray
07-08-2012, 12:48 AM
Who would you guys have wanted to start the 8th instead?

jhiller21
07-08-2012, 12:49 AM
I don't see this ending well for Chappy

The Rage
07-08-2012, 12:49 AM
I don't see this ending well for Chappy

He will strikeout the side

RedsFanInBama
07-08-2012, 12:49 AM
Who would you guys have wanted to start the 8th instead?

One of our many righties in the pen. Hell, keep Arredondo out there.

Falcon7
07-08-2012, 12:49 AM
Chapman???????????????????????????????????????? No idea what to expect!