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Ironman92
07-08-2012, 02:33 PM
1. Cozart 6
2. Stubbs 8
3. Votto 3
4. Phillips 4
5. Bruce 9
6. Ludwick 7
7. Rolen 5
8. Hanigan 2
9. Cueto 1

texasdave
07-08-2012, 02:37 PM
:lol:

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 02:38 PM
Cueto should bury these guys.

Positive numbers of Frazier, Heisey and Ludwick simply carry zero weight with Dusty.....negative numbers of those 3 carry triple weight.

Negative numbers of Stubbs, Rolen, Bruce, Cozart, Phillips are never weighed.

Maker_84
07-08-2012, 02:41 PM
Pirates about to take 3/4 from the Giants. Very disappointing series for San Fran

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 02:42 PM
:lol:

I can't find the humor. There simply would not have been an Iron Horse if Dusty was managing the Yankees in the early 20's.....and on the days Gehrig did get to play....he and Babe would have to be split up.

malcontent
07-08-2012, 02:49 PM
What's giving up 350 OPS points (Frazier: 0.905....Rolen: 0.555) when you can get to see how the game should be played?

PumpFak3First
07-08-2012, 03:00 PM
Do the Pirates play any good teams? These guys are running so +EV so far this year. How soft can their schedule get? And they avoid Lincecum who has found his game a little.

Past month they have played 3 legit teams, actually 2 (I don't consider the Cards legit, some of you may) 2 legit teams! Reds & Orioles. What did they go in those games? 1-5. God their schedule is soft. Glad to see their last 10 games of the season are against the Mets, Reds, & Braves. If they are neck and neck with us down the stretch we'll see how ****ing good the Pirates are then. They are cleaning house against their soft schedule. Won't have that luxury down the stretch where the men separate from the boys.

The Rage
07-08-2012, 03:21 PM
Do the Pirates play any good teams? These guys are running so +EV so far this year. How soft can their schedule get? And they avoid Lincecum who has found his game a little.

Past month they have played 3 legit teams, actually 2 (I don't consider the Cards legit, some of you may) 2 legit teams! Reds & Orioles. What did they go in those games? 1-5. God their schedule is soft. Glad to see their last 10 games of the season are against the Mets, Reds, & Braves. If they are neck and neck with us down the stretch we'll see how ****ing good the Pirates are then. They are cleaning house against their soft schedule. Won't have that luxury down the stretch where the men separate from the boys.

The Pirates remind me of the 99 Reds so far. Retreads having a career year coupled with a good young player having a career year. I think they will end up with the same fate.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 03:22 PM
Do the Pirates play any good teams? These guys are running so +EV so far this year. How soft can their schedule get? And they avoid Lincecum who has found his game a little.

Past month they have played 3 legit teams, actually 2 (I don't consider the Cards legit, some of you may) 2 legit teams! Reds & Orioles. What did they go in those games? 1-5. God their schedule is soft. Glad to see their last 10 games of the season are against the Mets, Reds, & Braves. If they are neck and neck with us down the stretch we'll see how ****ing good the Pirates are then. They are cleaning house against their soft schedule. Won't have that luxury down the stretch where the men separate from the boys.

We avoided Lincecum this past time. We avoid Strasburg twice....avoided Kershaw, avoid Johan and Dickey. Played Dodgers without Kemp and Ethier. Played Braves without Chipper and McCann.

Schedule tougher but we've been fortunate catching teams like that.

Gotta play good ball. If we don't make the playoffs because the Pirates beat us out....then we don't deserve to be in the playoffs.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 03:24 PM
Since late April:

Drew Stubbs .192 (43 starts)

Chris Heisey .286 (40 starts...15 when Stubbs was out)

Stray
07-08-2012, 03:24 PM
I think I read we had a favorable 2nd half schedule. We'll be alright. The Pirates aren't going to win 9 out of every 11 games all year long, or whatever kinda streak they're on.

PumpFak3First
07-08-2012, 03:26 PM
We avoided Lincecum this past time. We avoid Strasburg twice....avoided Kershaw, avoid Johan and Dickey. Played Dodgers without Kemp and Ethier. Played Braves without Chipper and McCann.

Schedule tougher but we've been fortunate catching teams like that.

Gotta play good ball. If we don't make the playoffs because the Pirates beat us out....then we don't deserve to be in the playoffs.

Oh I wasn't saying we haven't had our breaks, every team has. I clearly remember avoiding Stras a few times, I just decided today to look deeper into why the Pirates are where they are. Hey you beat who they put in front of you, but like I said if it's close down the stretch I love our chances considering they play 3 legit teams back to back to back for the first time all year. Reds just need to put themselves in the proper position for the final push once we get into the 2nd half and we'll be completely fine. Believe that 100%

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 03:37 PM
Clint Hurdle does a nice job with the young/scrappy teams.

The Rage
07-08-2012, 03:39 PM
Avoided Lincecum? I would face him anyday lol.

Stray
07-08-2012, 03:40 PM
Charlie Sheen looks to be enjoying our west coast trip.

Maker_84
07-08-2012, 03:42 PM
Pirates unfortunately have already been on their west coast trip also

brm7675
07-08-2012, 03:58 PM
Ignore the pirates at your own risk...may be second best team in NL.

Maker_84
07-08-2012, 04:03 PM
White Sox offense is alot of fun to watch. Wish the Reds had an offense half as good

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 04:13 PM
Ignore the pirates at your own risk...may be second best team in NL.

Reds control the Reds. If the Reds play close to how they can they'll be in the playoffs.

joshua
07-08-2012, 04:13 PM
The only reason I'm not punching myself in the face is the hope that Stubbs will be traded before Friday.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 04:14 PM
Avoided Lincecum? I would face him anyday lol.

And you would strike out 14 of 15 times.

Stray
07-08-2012, 04:14 PM
nice catch by Quentin

texasdave
07-08-2012, 04:15 PM
Marquis falls asleep on Votto. Phillips bids for a single but Quentin makes a nice grab.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 04:16 PM
This is the best team San Diego can throw out there.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 04:16 PM
I have no problem with Rolen at third, but why is Frazer not in left? How do you sit your hottest hitter?

Stray
07-08-2012, 04:17 PM
what time is the Futures game?

texasdave
07-08-2012, 04:17 PM
what time is the Futures game?

In the Future. :laugh:

Stray
07-08-2012, 04:18 PM
lol nvm, just found it on ESPN 2 at 5pm

texasdave
07-08-2012, 04:19 PM
Stubbs Ks. Nice to see him back in mid-season form

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 04:19 PM
BP is 0 for his last 10

texasdave
07-08-2012, 04:20 PM
Anytime Cueto goes you have to like your chances.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 04:20 PM
I have no problem with Rolen at third, but why is Frazer not in left? How do you sit your hottest hitter?

It's Dusty....how can this possibly surprise you?

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 04:21 PM
What's giving up 350 OPS points (Frazier: 0.905....Rolen: 0.555) when you can get to see how the game should be played?

well he is playing against a former team mate -- that must be worth an extra .500 OPS

PumpFak3First
07-08-2012, 04:21 PM
Ignore the pirates at your own risk...may be second best team in NL.

LOLOLOL you are such a dramatic poster and always go to the extreme

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 04:21 PM
Anytime Cueto goes you have to like your chances.

Not if you are the opponent.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 04:22 PM
Lol at Hanigan....the sun is the sun

texasdave
07-08-2012, 04:23 PM
Johnny looked sharp in that inning.

brm7675
07-08-2012, 04:24 PM
The only reason I'm not punching myself in the face is the hope that Stubbs will be traded before Friday.

Zero chance Stubbs is traded..

Stray
07-08-2012, 04:24 PM
Jim Bowden is at the Futures Game and just tweeted that Billy Hamilton is not impressive and that he has no arm.

brm7675
07-08-2012, 04:24 PM
LOLOLOL you are such a dramatic poster and always go to the extreme

Name better teams...

texasdave
07-08-2012, 04:26 PM
Now we know where NOT to hit the ball.

The Rage
07-08-2012, 04:26 PM
Bruce on the path to a sub-800ops

texasdave
07-08-2012, 04:30 PM
Rolen owns Marquis.

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 04:33 PM
Rolen owns Marquis.

worked him for 8 pitches -- who can ask for more?

50YrRedsFan
07-08-2012, 04:34 PM
Rolen picks up where he left off....K

50YrRedsFan
07-08-2012, 04:37 PM
Austin Kearns pinch hit 3 run HR has Marlins 4 - 2 over Cards, top 8

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 04:37 PM
The failure to do anything about the lack of lefthanded hitting is infuriating but it would really help if one of the two left handed hitters we've got would start hitting, and I don't mean the guy playing first.

texasdave
07-08-2012, 04:37 PM
Thank you, Austin.

joshua
07-08-2012, 04:38 PM
Zero chance Stubbs is traded..

I forgot he had two hits yesterday and is now untouchable...and no other team in the baseball would give up anything remotely significant for him.

Face punching sequence initiated.

texasdave
07-08-2012, 04:38 PM
Did Cueto hurt himself there?

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 04:39 PM
Thank you, Austin.

good job Austin!

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 04:40 PM
JC is a big time baseball player.

joshua
07-08-2012, 04:40 PM
Cueto goes first to third on Cozart texas leaguer to left field. slide over the bag and barely held on to remain safe. That's some nice baserunning!

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 04:40 PM
1st & 3rd with one out & Stubbs up -- no sweat -- right?

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 04:40 PM
Will he make contact?

50YrRedsFan
07-08-2012, 04:40 PM
Pirates destroying Giants 13-2, top 9. Lincecum couldn't make it through 4 innings. His ERA is near 7 !!

fielder's choice
07-08-2012, 04:43 PM
Get Stubbs off this team, now.

texasdave
07-08-2012, 04:43 PM
Stubbs. LOL.

BluegrassRedleg
07-08-2012, 04:43 PM
Mr. Fail

The Rage
07-08-2012, 04:43 PM
So Drew didn't get the job done eh? Surprised. Usually he is very dependable.

Stray
07-08-2012, 04:43 PM
guessing at pitches

BluegrassRedleg
07-08-2012, 04:44 PM
Huge, looping swing with 2 strikes. Pro.

joshua
07-08-2012, 04:44 PM
Drew Scrubbs everybody.

I'm glad Heisey isn't playing today.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 04:44 PM
Well there you saw the two extremes of Reds baseball, JC's incredible dash to third and Stubbs' inability to put the bat on the ball off of a mediocre pitcher. And that's why this team is going nowhere.

50YrRedsFan
07-08-2012, 04:45 PM
Dusty should be fired for playing Stubbs over Heisey or Frazier today. There is no excuse for this at all.

texasdave
07-08-2012, 04:45 PM
Cy Marquis through three. Or, if you prefer, The Marquis de Cy. =)

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 04:46 PM
So Drew didn't get the job done eh? Surprised. Usually he is very dependable.

but he is very fast

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 04:46 PM
Simply pitiful at-bats from Votto and Stubbs, and simply pitiful managing by not having Heisey in there today.

Stray
07-08-2012, 04:46 PM
An Oreo Coolata doesn't sound too bad

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 04:47 PM
Huge, looping swing with 2 strikes. Pro.

Its like the concept of choking up and just trying to make contact in that situation never entered his mind. I'm beginning to think a big part of Stubbs' problem is that he's just not the sharpest pencil in the box.

PumpFak3First
07-08-2012, 04:47 PM
Imma start calling Drew "toe" because all he does is Stubb it

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 04:47 PM
but he is very fast

He is very, very fast and that always equates to value. Severe, juicy, delicious baseball Bakermetrics value.

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 04:52 PM
Rolen looked really, really uncomfortable there.

texasdave
07-08-2012, 04:53 PM
If they pitched Cueto on Friday, they would not be 'rushing' him back. That would be his normal day to pitch.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 04:53 PM
I forgot he had two hits yesterday and is now untouchable...and no other team in the baseball would give up anything remotely significant for him.

Face punching sequence initiated.

He did not have 2 hits yesterday. He's back to 5 in a row making outs.

The Rage
07-08-2012, 04:54 PM
If they pitched Cueto on Friday, they would not be 'rushing' him back. That would be his normal day to pitch.

They want to give him some rest

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 04:54 PM
HE GONE.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 04:54 PM
Baker getting upset when the one Red reporter asked him about starting Rolen. Dusty would last 5 minutes in New York.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 04:55 PM
Imma start calling Drew "toe" because all he does is Stubb it

On another wonderful site (wouldn't fly here) I call him Drew Gehrig because barring injury and nothing else he could go at Gehrig's 2130.

texasdave
07-08-2012, 04:55 PM
And asking about Rolen starting seems like a legitimate question.

malcontent
07-08-2012, 04:57 PM
It's Dusty....how can this possibly surprise you?
Essentially, given his fascination with Stubbs and Rolen (whenever Scotty says he can "go"), Baker has forced THREE significantly better bats into a competition for LF.

You can't manage any better than that, IMNSHO.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 04:57 PM
Baker getting upset when the one Red reporter asked him about starting Rolen. Dusty would last 5 minutes in New York.

Would really like to see if you're right.

texasdave
07-08-2012, 04:57 PM
Nice start as Brandon laces a single to left.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 04:58 PM
And asking about Rolen starting seems like a legitimate question.

I like Baker and I hate all the second guessing that goes on around here. But Dusty is starting to wear very thin.

texasdave
07-08-2012, 04:58 PM
Baker getting upset when the one Red reporter asked him about starting Rolen. Dusty would last 5 minutes in New York.

A New York minute. :)

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 04:59 PM
Dusty should be fired for playing Stubbs over Heisey or Frazier today. There is no excuse for this at all.

He's faster than both of them.

Pls keep up.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 04:59 PM
Killed that.

Stray
07-08-2012, 04:59 PM
he hit that ball a long way

texasdave
07-08-2012, 04:59 PM
Wow. Bruce with two bombs. This one left the park.

texasdave
07-08-2012, 05:00 PM
Marquis needs a neck brace after that pitch.

The Rage
07-08-2012, 05:00 PM
Bruce needed that after last nights games........

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:00 PM
Now that's the way a left handed hitter is supposed to handle mediocre right handed pitching.

Stray
07-08-2012, 05:00 PM
wow

texasdave
07-08-2012, 05:00 PM
Back-to-back jacks.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:01 PM
Back to back, belly to belly. I never would have played Ludwick today. Good old Dusty.

50YrRedsFan
07-08-2012, 05:01 PM
At least Rolen made contact.

malcontent
07-08-2012, 05:02 PM
Back-to-back jacks.
Rolen restores order.

texasdave
07-08-2012, 05:02 PM
Cueto + 3-run lead = Win.

Stray
07-08-2012, 05:03 PM
that was a no doubter in GABP

texasdave
07-08-2012, 05:03 PM
Marquis serving up room service cheese in the 4th.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:03 PM
I'm really upset about that Stubbs at bat. All he had to do was hit a ground ball some place, they never would have doubled him up. The big hR's are nice but the failure to do the little things are killing this team.

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:04 PM
Cueto + 3-run lead = Win.

Thanks for the curse.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:04 PM
Cueto + 3-run lead = Win.

As long as he doesn't send Marshall out there.

texasdave
07-08-2012, 05:04 PM
Cueto>Curse

malcontent
07-08-2012, 05:05 PM
Let me attempt the impossible here (in the absence of more hitters of the perverse Votto/Bruce persuasion)....

3B Frazier
CF Heisey

and......(drumroll)....

LF Ludwick

It's actually possible!

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 05:08 PM
Braves

Cardinals

Cubs

Rockies

Nationals

Diamondbacks

Twins

Padres

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 05:09 PM
Back to back, belly to belly. I never would have played Ludwick today. Good old Dusty.

I would've.....LF

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:11 PM
Will JC quit fooling around. Big Ballpark, no hitters, 3 run lead. Great defense. Let them hit it.

PumpFak3First
07-08-2012, 05:12 PM
So are we still complaining about who Dusty didn't play?

The Rage
07-08-2012, 05:13 PM
Alonso having a miserable last 2 games lol.

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:13 PM
BIG DP.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:15 PM
So are we still complaining about who Dusty didn't play?

No actually we are complimenting him on who he did play, over our objections-- its a reverse second guess.

fielder's choice
07-08-2012, 05:16 PM
Go Stubbs go!

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:16 PM
Geez...just sell/fire/trade/dismember/bludgeon Stubbs. He's pure crap.

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:16 PM
Stubbs = Golden Sombero? -- but he is still fast

The Rage
07-08-2012, 05:16 PM
Stubbs is something else. He and Rolen are a true comedic tandom.

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:17 PM
Stubbs = Golden Sombero? -- but he is still fast

He is really, really fast.

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:17 PM
not a bad catch in center

50YrRedsFan
07-08-2012, 05:17 PM
I think we have seen more than enough of Drew Stubbs. He should be in the minors.

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:17 PM
One of the best catches I have ever seen.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:18 PM
Wake up and smell the coffee. Is that Lorenzo cain out there? Are you kidding me?

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:18 PM
Evokes memories of my all-time fave player, Eric Davis. Hated losing the dinger but that was truly a pleasure to watch.

The Rage
07-08-2012, 05:18 PM
Joey may go postal after losing that one. Maybin better watch his back lol:eek:

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:18 PM
One of the best catches I have ever seen.

I tried to do that once in center --- true story -- the ball went off my glove - I hurt my back so bad I missed the rest of the season

I think we have a our top of the top ten

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:19 PM
Evokes memories of my all-time fave player, Eric Davis. Hated losing the dinger but that was truly a pleasure to watch.

I saw Davis do that to his old buddy strawberry one night at Shea. Strawman just stood there and gave him the evil eye.

herbdizzle
07-08-2012, 05:20 PM
Stubbs & Rolen today 0-5, 4 Ks. Thankfully their black hole of suckitude is outweighed by Johnny Cueto today.

PumpFak3First
07-08-2012, 05:20 PM
Went to grab a drink and "toe" does it again

What does Stubbs' contract look like because it's apparent the kid isn't an every day player, not even close

PumpFak3First
07-08-2012, 05:21 PM
Weird thing is the Padres have a Stubbs on their team. Cameron Maybin, but his ceiling is much higher IMO

herbdizzle
07-08-2012, 05:21 PM
And a great catch by Cameron Maybin. One of the best I've seen this year. :thumbup:

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:21 PM
Went to grab a drink and "toe" does it again

What does Stubbs' contract look like because it's apparent the kid isn't an every day player, not even close

$527,000 this year If I recall right

brm7675
07-08-2012, 05:21 PM
Hamilton bounces out in first AB

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:22 PM
Went to grab a drink and "toe" does it again

What does Stubbs' contract look like because it's apparent the kid isn't an every day player, not even close

He's very fast at K's too -- got to run to the fridge

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:23 PM
He's very fast at K's too -- got to run to the fridge

That's part of his intrinsic value. He even makes the fans have to be faster. You don't even have the time to take a comfortable stroll to the fridge for an ICE COLD HUDEPOHL. Stubbs strikes out even faster than he runs.

50YrRedsFan
07-08-2012, 05:24 PM
I think someone on this club should be a leader and go to Dusty and tell him he is not giving the team the best chance of winning using Stubbs and Rolen in any starting line up.
But who has the b-lls to do it?

The Rage
07-08-2012, 05:24 PM
I think someone on this club should be a leader and go to Dusty and tell him he is not giving the team the best chance of winning using Stubbs and Rolen in any starting line up.
But who has the b-lls to do it?

Votto. Probably scare Dusty as well........

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:25 PM
That hit the BAT, dangit.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:25 PM
Well that was smart.

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:26 PM
Well that was smart.

If it got his hand -- it is going to smart

BluegrassRedleg
07-08-2012, 05:27 PM
This is a concentration lapse you'd expect from Bailey.

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:28 PM
JC looking a little off here --- I still have confidence!

The Rage
07-08-2012, 05:28 PM
This is a concentration lapse you'd expect from Bailey.

Maybe the week off wouldn't hurt.

Stray
07-08-2012, 05:29 PM
almost turned it

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:29 PM
danged close DP try

BluegrassRedleg
07-08-2012, 05:30 PM
Can't believe they even made that close.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:30 PM
If it got his hand -- it is going to smart

Why? Its not like Marquis has impressed anyone. I hope he stays in the game. In any event not putting him away cost us a run.

Maker_84
07-08-2012, 05:31 PM
How has cueto struggled so bad against Marquis?

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:31 PM
Why? Its not like Marquis has impressed anyone. I hope he stays in the game. In any event not putting him away cost us a run.

smart as in hurt / sting

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:32 PM
smart as in hurt / sting

:thumbup:

joshua
07-08-2012, 05:32 PM
Cueto struggling. Price needs to go out there and settle him down.

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:32 PM
how did he hit that ball?

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:34 PM
Could have been a lot worse, but this is definitely a game again. Especially with this keystone cops bullpen of ours.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:35 PM
Is it just me or has he looked less than Cuetoesq since his big pitch count complete game?

Maker_84
07-08-2012, 05:35 PM
Is it just me or has he looked less than Cuetoesq since his big pitch count complete game?

Ive noticed too, maybe its good he isn't going to the all star game

Stray
07-08-2012, 05:40 PM
man

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:40 PM
Grandal's throws tail away to the right almost every time. Bad catching fundamentals. I think we kept the right one in Mesoraco.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:40 PM
Nice job by Bruce, great job by BP who is having a good game.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:42 PM
Grandal's throws tail away to the right almost every time. Bad catching fundamentals. I think we kept the right one in Mesoraco.

maybe. But it sure would nice to have a switch hitter on this team. And he looks like a switch hitter that can hit.

malcontent
07-08-2012, 05:43 PM
Dusty should be fired for playing Stubbs over Heisey or Frazier today. There is no excuse for this at all.
Agreed. But he should have also been fired an eternity ago for worse offenses.

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:44 PM
maybe. But it sure would nice to have a switch hitter on this team. And he looks like a switch hitter that can hit.

He can definitely hit. But I bet he ultimately projects to a DH or 1B.

malcontent
07-08-2012, 05:44 PM
Yet another Heath Bell Fail.

BluegrassRedleg
07-08-2012, 05:44 PM
Need a couple of insurance runs here.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:44 PM
He can definitely hit. But I bet he ultimately projects to a DH or 1B.

good point

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:46 PM
Geez, Ludwick....get the bat on the ball.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:46 PM
Ludwick has power and can play defense. But like Stubbs and a few other guys, when it comes to the little things, he stinks.

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:47 PM
Rolen K's now --- wow

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:47 PM
Rolen's simply done. He's pathetic now, and it's just sad to see.

texasdave
07-08-2012, 05:47 PM
Strikeouts are the same as any other out. And so there goes your proof.

BluegrassRedleg
07-08-2012, 05:47 PM
Some kind of something.

texasdave
07-08-2012, 05:47 PM
Cards score three in the bottom of the 9th of Heath Bell to pull it out.

Kingspoint
07-08-2012, 05:48 PM
Sit down, Scottie!

herbdizzle
07-08-2012, 05:48 PM
I hope this is the last game I ever see Rolen in a Reds uniform. He's beyond done.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:48 PM
Unbelievable.

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:48 PM
These runners LOB reside squarely on the shoulders of one Dusty Baker. We're going to lose this game.

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:48 PM
Rolen's simply done. He's pathetic now, and it's just sad to see.

It's like a heavy weight boxer way past his time stumbling around --

BluegrassRedleg
07-08-2012, 05:48 PM
Reitre , Scottie!

Fixed.

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:48 PM
Cards score three in the bottom of the 9th of Heath Bell to pull it out.

Heath Bell is beyond a hot mess. He's a nuclear wasteland.

malcontent
07-08-2012, 05:49 PM
Rolen's simply done. He's pathetic now, and it's just sad to see.
But Rolen does the little things....like, like flowers to Dusty every Manager's Day.

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:49 PM
Strikeouts are the same as any other out. And so there goes your proof.

Any Bakermetrician worth his salt knows this to be true.

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:49 PM
I can't believe these TV guys are sayng Dusty is frustrated by the lack of situational hitting.

texasdave
07-08-2012, 05:50 PM
I would say unbelievable. But we just saw it a couple of innings ago.

Kingspoint
07-08-2012, 05:50 PM
It's not like Rolen is a "REDS" Hall-of-Famer.


He doesn't deserve any special pass at all. The guy merely gave half of a season to us of semi-decent production, yet he gets treated like he's Johnny Bench or Barry Larkin.

Go Home, Rolen. There's nothing but bad memories of you as a RED.

BluegrassRedleg
07-08-2012, 05:50 PM
Heath Bell is beyond a hot mess. He's a nuclear wasteland.

He's making Carlos Marmol look like Greg Maddux these days.

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:50 PM
Fixed.

Is that French for go home and stop killing my team?

osuredleg24
07-08-2012, 05:50 PM
Saying this team frustrates me is an understatement

herbdizzle
07-08-2012, 05:50 PM
Updated stats of the day: Stubbs & Rolen 0-6, 5 Ks.

malcontent
07-08-2012, 05:50 PM
It's like a heavy weight boxer way past his time stumbling around --
With a manager who keeps calling him champ.

herbdizzle
07-08-2012, 05:51 PM
It's not like Rolen is a "REDS" Hall-of-Famer.


He doesn't deserve any special pass at all. The guy merely gave half of a season to us of semi-decent production, yet he gets treated like he's Johnny Bench or Barry Larkin.

Go Home, Rolen. There's nothing but bad memories of you as a RED.

Amen brother.

BluegrassRedleg
07-08-2012, 05:51 PM
Is that French for go home and stop killing my team?

LOL. Must have been. Geez. :p

Maker_84
07-08-2012, 05:51 PM
Epic fail. I wish we had the Pirates offense lol

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:51 PM
:laugh:
LOL. Must have been. Geez. :p

:laugh:

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:51 PM
Its like the ony Reds who go up there with any lind of a runner on third less than two out plan- make contact- are Votto and BP . The rest of these guys are just swinging for the fences.

Kingspoint
07-08-2012, 05:51 PM
This deep into the season, and looking at his last 600 AB's, this isn't a "slump" or a learning curve for Stubbs any more. He might have peaked.

50YrRedsFan
07-08-2012, 05:52 PM
Updated stats of the day: Stubbs & Rolen 0-6, 5 Ks.

But Dusty will give them a fresh beginning after the ASG and start them again.

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 05:52 PM
This deep into the season, and looking at his last 600 AB's, this isn't a "slump" or a learning curve for Stubbs any more. He might have peaked.

But he did it in a very fast manner. He is fast.

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:53 PM
JC better get back to being JC

Kingspoint
07-08-2012, 05:53 PM
Rolen's pathetic at-bat removes Hanigan's bat from the lineup this inning.

Stray
07-08-2012, 05:53 PM
The situational hitting on this team is laughable. I really don't know how Jacoby has kept his job while Walt and Bob watch this team struggle to get guys in from 3rd.

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:53 PM
I can't believe Rolen can't see the truth = Baker -- not so much

malcontent
07-08-2012, 05:54 PM
Heath Bell is beyond a hot mess. He's a nuclear wasteland.
This is where a manager with a clue acts.

And doesn't just keep pushing the same bad actor out onto the stage.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 05:54 PM
One of the best catches I have ever seen.

Nyjer's was tougher.

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:56 PM
Marshall up -- I feel better / NOT

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:56 PM
Too bad we don't don't have any left handed hitters like the Padres do. Oh right, those are our left handed hitters.

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:57 PM
Too bad we don't don't have any left handed hitters like the Padres do. Oh right, those are our left handed hitters.

:laugh:

PumpFak3First
07-08-2012, 05:58 PM
Special thanks to Heath Bell, ****ing scrub

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 05:59 PM
dinker --- two this inning -- dang

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 05:59 PM
Why do they keep pitching these lefties outside in this ball park.

The Rage
07-08-2012, 05:59 PM
Cueto is Bailoring pretty bad. Hopefully he can get out of it so the bullpen can blow the lead later on.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 06:00 PM
Wake up and smell the coffee. Is that Lorenzo cain out there? Are you kidding me?

Good call.....but Cain was going almost full speed. Maybin had the chance to slow down and time it....still hitting the wall pretty hard.

But IMO Nyjer doesn't catch the ball Maybin did (much shorter couldn't reach)....but Maybin doesn't catch the ball Nyjer did.

The Lorenzo Cain catch was better than both.

Stray
07-08-2012, 06:01 PM
Hamilton just hit a 2 run triple

50YrRedsFan
07-08-2012, 06:01 PM
Special thanks to Heath Bell, ****ing scrub

What is it with these managers leaving their pitchers in when they obviously can't get the jobs done?

BluegrassRedleg
07-08-2012, 06:02 PM
The Reds' top of the 6th is going to come back to haunt in a big way today.

Kingspoint
07-08-2012, 06:02 PM
What's the temp in San Diego right now?

brm7675
07-08-2012, 06:02 PM
Hamilton two run tripple

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 06:03 PM
I tried to do that once in center --- true story -- the ball went off my glove - I hurt my back so bad I missed the rest of the season

I think we have a our top of the top ten

1958?

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 06:04 PM
This is not going to end well.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 06:04 PM
Kotays at bat showing whats wrong with the reds- lack of an average left handed hitter

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 06:04 PM
1958?

no -- in high school -- 1968

PumpFak3First
07-08-2012, 06:04 PM
What is it with these managers leaving their pitchers in when they obviously can't get the jobs done?

I can't believe Miami paid him 30M after it was obvious last year he was DONE

The Rage
07-08-2012, 06:04 PM
pull him

Stray
07-08-2012, 06:05 PM
The Reds' top of the 6th is going to come back to haunt in a big way today.

They always do

Kingspoint
07-08-2012, 06:05 PM
Leave him in.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 06:05 PM
Dusty will bring in LeCure for a first pitch grand slam.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 06:05 PM
Cueto has had 3 mediocre efforts on this road trip.

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 06:05 PM
Cueto + 3-run lead = Win.

Tip o' the cap to my main man Tejas Dave.

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 06:05 PM
I can't believe Miami paid him 30M after it was obvious last year he was DONE

yup -- not many thought that was well spent $$

Kingspoint
07-08-2012, 06:05 PM
Dusty will bring in LeCure for a first pitch grand slam.That's what I'm afraid of. Let Cueto finish it or lose it.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 06:05 PM
no -- in high school -- 1968

You're old.

I will call you Scott.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 06:06 PM
Taking him out was the right move.

malcontent
07-08-2012, 06:06 PM
LeCure pitches 6th innings.

He's a 6th-inning pitcher.

Kingspoint
07-08-2012, 06:06 PM
Taking him out was the right move.We'll see.

Ironman92
07-08-2012, 06:07 PM
Taking him out was the right move.

Played with fire the past 3 innings.

Kingspoint
07-08-2012, 06:08 PM
Nice at-bat there, Dorkia.

Stray
07-08-2012, 06:08 PM
Good job Lecure, still don't have a good feeling about this.

50YrRedsFan
07-08-2012, 06:08 PM
We were lucky there

The Rage
07-08-2012, 06:08 PM
Gotta hand it to Lecure. The guy is a one pitch pony lol

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 06:08 PM
We'll see.

We saw. At least you stated your opinion before the event happened.

Stray
07-08-2012, 06:09 PM
Watching Hamilton easily leg out a triple was pretty cool to see. That guy can fly.

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 06:09 PM
One thing I know for sure after this series - Yasmani Grandal can handle a bat.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 06:09 PM
We were lucky there

Rather be lucky than good. :)

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 06:09 PM
Watching Hamilton easily leg out a triple was pretty cool to see. That guy can fly.

Can't wait to see that guy in Cincy.

50YrRedsFan
07-08-2012, 06:10 PM
It's an embarrassment that we only got 3 runs off Marquis....We should have blown the Padres out of this game.

Maker_84
07-08-2012, 06:10 PM
Cueto has had 3 mediocre efforts on this road trip.

Hasn't been on his game that's 4 sure

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 06:10 PM
Worried about Cueto. Last three have not been good.

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 06:11 PM
Thith Thayer guy Thucks. Letsth get thum runths.

Maker_84
07-08-2012, 06:11 PM
It's an embarrassment that we only got 3 runs off Marquis....We should have blown the Padres out of this game.

This is the Reds offense

Red Raindog
07-08-2012, 06:11 PM
You're old.

I will call you Scott.

I knew when to quit

:p

TheBigLebowski
07-08-2012, 06:12 PM
I knew when to quit

:p

Brilliant.

BluegrassRedleg
07-08-2012, 06:12 PM
Capt. Fail at the dish. This should be good.

Mutaman
07-08-2012, 06:13 PM
I think Cozart and Frazer can play. I wasn't sure at beginning of the year.

Stray
07-08-2012, 06:13 PM
Whenever our guys square up to bunt they all look terrible doing it. Well except for Heisey and Valdez and Valdez didn't learn here.

Who teaches these guys that terrible form?