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powersackers
07-13-2012, 05:17 PM
Billy Hamilton singles up the middle to open game 1 of a DH PEN vs CHAT. Steals second for his second AA SB (106). Steals third for his third AA SB (107) on a 2-0 count. Mills nor Greene could knock him in from third with less than 2 outs. LaMarre lined out to CF for the first out and Bryson Smith BBs.

Cingrani takes the hill for the Wahoos.

19braves77
07-13-2012, 05:25 PM
He might have 6 stolen bases with the double header.

texasdave
07-13-2012, 05:36 PM
Cingrani pitches a scoreless first, striking out a batter with a runner on third with one out.
David Vidal walks to lead off the Blue Fish second. Vidal gets picked off.

texasdave
07-13-2012, 05:40 PM
Tucker Barnhart was the Reds Minor Leaguer of the Month for June. He hit .382.

TOBTTReds
07-13-2012, 05:45 PM
He might have 6 stolen bases with the double header.

In the first game...

texasdave
07-13-2012, 05:49 PM
FWIW, Wahoo announcer says that Tony Cingrani does a better job than any pitcher he has ever seen at this level of changing speeds with his fastball. He is facing Chattanooga for the second time. He did not fare too well the first time, going only 3.2 IP. He surrendered five hits and issued three bases on balls. He has now set down six in a row. 23 consecutive scoreless innings for Cingrani. During that span he has allowed just 8 hits, walked 8 and fanned 28.

mace
07-13-2012, 05:54 PM
FWIW, Wahoo announcer says that Tony Cingrani does a better job than any pitcher he has ever seen at this level of changing speeds with his fastball.

So, if he changes fastball speeds at, say, three different velocities, does that, along with the slider, give him four pitches? :)

19braves77
07-13-2012, 06:00 PM
and I like the lineup for the first 4 batters:

Billy Hamilton
Ryan LaMarre
Bryson Smith
Beau Mills

I was wrong about Lamarre. He does a little bit of everything correctly. Think i read at a Wahoos game last week that he leads AA players in outfield assists with 14.

texasdave
07-13-2012, 06:01 PM
Back-to-back singles with two outs by Lamarre and Smith. They are stranded as Mills whiffs.

Slidin' Billy Hamilton now has 272 stolen bases in his minor league career. He has been caught 53 times. That is a .837 success rate. Nice.

19braves77
07-13-2012, 06:05 PM
I suggested to Tony that he learn a cutter. Its somewhat easy to use and turned Tyler Thornburg's into a prospect. You usually want pitchers that cant throw their slider 4 mph within their fastball range repeatedly to learn it.

Scrap Irony
07-13-2012, 06:12 PM
FWIW, Wahoo announcer says that Tony Cingrani does a better job than any pitcher he has ever seen at this level of changing speeds with his fastball.

Might explain both his success so far and his lack of offspeed success. If you've got different speeds on your fastball and can throw each for strikes, all you need is a changeup.

He apparently has that.

Nice to hear.

SirFelixCat
07-13-2012, 06:33 PM
Can anyone breakdown milb.tv for me...which of the Reds teams actually have their games on there? And what about archives of non-live games?

Scrap Irony
07-13-2012, 06:42 PM
David Vidal, after really struggling to open his time in AA, has rebounded slightly. Walking more, striking out slightly less, and hitting with more power tends to be a nice recipe for that. A .900 OPS over his last 10 games, including today's 1 for 1 with a BB. He's got about a 0.60 Iso obp in AA, which needs work, but is much, much better than it was when he first got the call.

If Vidal can rebound enough to put up an 800 OPS in AA, he may force the Reds into making a decision about he, Frazier, and Henry Rodriguez all the more quickly. (Of course, they could always keep him in AA next season-- with Rodriguez in AAA-- and Frazier at the major league level, as all three have options galore.)

mace
07-13-2012, 06:50 PM
Barnhart tripled in a couple runs to put the Hoos ahead 2-1 in the fourth. The run against Cingrani is unearned, of course. But he only has one K.

dougdirt
07-13-2012, 07:23 PM
Can anyone breakdown milb.tv for me...which of the Reds teams actually have their games on there? And what about archives of non-live games?

The Louisville Bats are available every night they play. Every AAA team is required to do so, so you will catch them every night.

Pensacola has all of their home games broadcasted and about 25% of their road games.

Bakersfield does not broadcast their games, but have about 10-12 left that will be on Milb.tv as San Jose does participate.

Dayton broadcasts all of their home games, but unless it is a Thursday-Saturday home game, it is hardly worth checking out. Thursday-Saturday are broadcast on TV in the Dayton area, so the production quality is there. Any other game they simply use the scoreboard feed and it isn't good at all.

Billings and the AZL don't participate, but one team in the Billings league does. Unfortunately they are in the wrong division, so Billings will only be available for 3 games later this season.

All games are archived and are almost always available within 24 hours of the games end, though sometimes they are available within two hours of the game being over.

It is easily the best money I spend each year.

Blitz Dorsey
07-13-2012, 07:30 PM
Bats bat-around in the first. 6-0 over the Gwinnett Braves. They've gone from the Bad News Bats to a pretty interesting team to follow.

dougdirt
07-13-2012, 07:34 PM
Tony Cingrani with a complete game win. 7ip, 4h, 1 unearned, 2bb, 2k, 100 pitches, 63 strikes, 13 ground ball outs, 4 fly ball outs.

powersackers
07-13-2012, 07:42 PM
Soto and Puckett account for 5 runs with homers. HRod singles.

dougdirt
07-13-2012, 07:46 PM
Cingrani's complete game is the first in Blue Wahoos history.

mace
07-13-2012, 07:49 PM
Cingrani's complete game is the first in Blue Wahoos history.

What I like better than the complete game is a complete under the duress of a 2-1 score.

His ERA in the Southern League is now 1.29.

dougdirt
07-13-2012, 07:52 PM
Louisville loads the bases with a single, walk and a single before a wild pitch plates Henry Rodriguez. No outs in the 2nd, 7-0 Bats and runners on 2nd and 3rd.

mace
07-13-2012, 07:52 PM
Soto and Puckett account for 5 runs with homers. HRod singles.

Phipps, H-Rod and Navarro are all 2-2.

Blitz Dorsey
07-13-2012, 08:05 PM
Wow! Louisville leads 13-0 with the game still in the bottom of the second.

Grand slam from Phipps, 3-run jack from Soto (10th HR of the year), Rodriguez, Navarro and Puckett are 2-for-2.

dougdirt
07-13-2012, 08:06 PM
The Bats have hit around in each inning of the game.

batsfan
07-13-2012, 08:07 PM
GRAND SLAM Denis Phipps, he is now 3-3 and the Bats lead 13 - 0 in the second!

Blitz Dorsey
07-13-2012, 08:09 PM
Gonna be hella nice when September rolls around and we can have three catchers on the roster the caliber of Hanigan, Mesoraco and Navarro. All good defensively. All good at the plate.

dougdirt
07-13-2012, 08:47 PM
Jacob Johnson gave up 6 runs in the 1st and didn't come out for the 2nd. Only Yorman Rodriguez has reached base through 2 innings and he was HBP.

dougdirt
07-13-2012, 08:48 PM
Billings gets under way in about 10 minutes. Drew Cisco is on the mound for the Mustangs.

dougdirt
07-13-2012, 08:54 PM
Janish with an RBI single to make it 14-1 Bats in the 5th inning.

dougdirt
07-13-2012, 08:55 PM
Mark Fluery has the lone hit for the Blue Wahoos through 2. They trail 1-0 with Mark Serrano on the hill.

dougdirt
07-13-2012, 09:06 PM
Blue Wahoos take a 5-1 lead in game 2. Bill Rhinehart with a ground rule double drove in two. A walk followed to load the bases and a Bryson Smith triple cleared the bases.

dougdirt
07-13-2012, 09:17 PM
Neftali Soto doubles into the gap to drive in two more. 16-1 Bats. 6th inning.

SirFelixCat
07-13-2012, 09:35 PM
The Louisville Bats are available every night they play. Every AAA team is required to do so, so you will catch them every night.

Pensacola has all of their home games broadcasted and about 25% of their road games.

Bakersfield does not broadcast their games, but have about 10-12 left that will be on Milb.tv as San Jose does participate.

Dayton broadcasts all of their home games, but unless it is a Thursday-Saturday home game, it is hardly worth checking out. Thursday-Saturday are broadcast on TV in the Dayton area, so the production quality is there. Any other game they simply use the scoreboard feed and it isn't good at all.

Billings and the AZL don't participate, but one team in the Billings league does. Unfortunately they are in the wrong division, so Billings will only be available for 3 games later this season.

All games are archived and are almost always available within 24 hours of the games end, though sometimes they are available within two hours of the game being over.

It is easily the best money I spend each year.

Wow, better than I expected, but I should know better from you Doug. Thanks bro. :thumbup:

dougdirt
07-13-2012, 09:51 PM
Billings is in a rain delay. The game made it 5 outs before the tarp came out.

eljaymora
07-13-2012, 09:54 PM
Nice game from Serrano, Cingrani is a tough act to follow...

mace
07-13-2012, 10:10 PM
Valaika has added a pinch-hit grand slam for the Bats. It's now 22-1.

corkedbat
07-13-2012, 10:34 PM
Denis Phipps goes 5-6 tonight for the Bats and raises his average to .180

mace
07-13-2012, 10:48 PM
Pensacola completes the sweep, 6-1. Hamilton walked and stole #4/108. Good pitching from Serrano, Partch and Hayes.

The Blue Wahoos are now 14-8 in the second half, good for first place.

mace
07-13-2012, 10:55 PM
In addition to the two grand slams (Phipps, Valaika) and two other homers (Soto, Puckett), and the five hits from Phipps, Louisville had three hits from Gregorius, Rodriguez, Xavier Paul and Puckett--23 in all. Gallagher went six, and scoreless innings were provided by Judy, Hoover and Webb. The final was 22-1.

mace
07-13-2012, 10:58 PM
Dayton went down 8-1, managing only two hits (Buckley and Yovan Gonzalez).

mace
07-13-2012, 11:01 PM
Five of the first six Billings batters have struck out. Cisco pitched just one hitless inning. But the Orem starter only went 2/3, so I'm guessing the rain delay was the factor there.

Mustangs trail 1-0 in the third. Amezcua has the ball for Billings.

Tom Servo
07-13-2012, 11:01 PM
Bats fixing the old pythag huh?

Tuff Nut
07-13-2012, 11:03 PM
Tony Cingrani with a complete game win. 7ip, 4h, 1 unearned, 2bb, 2k, 100 pitches, 63 strikes, 13 ground ball outs, 4 fly ball outs.
I only count 19 outs...what about the other 2 (7 IP / 3 outs per = 21) Are DPs, if there were any, scored different?

mace
07-13-2012, 11:05 PM
Sharky Rogers has walked four in the first two innings, but is hanging tough in a 0-0 game. Dominic D'Anna's triple was wasted.

mace
07-13-2012, 11:13 PM
Travis Mattair's 3-run HR has put Bakersfield up 3-0 in the third.

mace
07-13-2012, 11:15 PM
Singles by Brandon Dailey and Daniel Pigott and a walk to Winker help produce two runs for Billings and a 2-1 lead in the third.

dougdirt
07-13-2012, 11:38 PM
I only count 19 outs...what about the other 2 (7 IP / 3 outs per = 21) Are DPs, if there were any, scored different?

1 pick off, 1 caught stealing.

mace
07-14-2012, 08:46 AM
Well, we missed a little excitement in Billings. The game was tied 6-6 heading into the bottom of the seventh, when the Mustangs unloaded for five runs. They were only half-finished. They added 11 more in the eighth to win 22-6, actually matching Louisville's run total for the evening.

There were some interesting personal lines.

Brandon Dailey was 3-3 with 2 walks, 2 SB and 5 runs scored.
Daniel Pigott was 5-6 with a HR, 2B, 6 RBIs and 4 runs.
Robert Maddox didn't start the game, but went 4-4 with a HR, 3 RBIs and 3 runs.
Robert Ramirez was 2-6 with 2 doubles and 5 RBIs.
Beau Amaral was 2-5 with a 3B, 3 RBIs and 3 runs.

Not sure why Winker left the game in the 7th and Carlos Sanchez came out after 2 AB.

Alejandro Chacin pitched the final 2.1 for the win.

mace
07-14-2012, 08:51 AM
Bakersfield also romped, 9-0, behind Rogers: 5 IP, 1H, 5 BB, 5 K, ERA 2.64. Justice French (3 IP) and Daniel Wolford provided shutdown relief.

Home runs by Mattair, Selsky and Danny Vicioso. Mattair had three hits and Bowe two.

Tuff Nut
07-14-2012, 08:57 AM
1 pick off, 1 caught stealing.
Gotcha.......Thanks :thumbup: This kid is pitching great.
Question for the MiL gurus.... Does he get called up to AAA, when Sept. rolls around, or does he hang out in Fla., and help the Hoos in their 2nd half run? I know he started in A+, so would AAA, by seasons end, be too much too soon?

Scrap Irony
07-14-2012, 10:29 AM
Both the AA and AAA seasons will be all but over by the time callups happen. He'll stay in AA unless something major happens.

membengal
07-14-2012, 10:31 AM
I see no reason why Cingrani should not finish out the season in AA.

Scrap Irony
07-14-2012, 10:55 AM
Bakersfield also romped, 9-0, behind Rogers: 5 IP, 1H, 5 BB, 5 K, ERA 2.64. Justice French (3 IP) and Daniel Wolford provided shutdown relief.

Home runs by Mattair, Selsky and Danny Vicioso. Mattair had three hits and Bowe two.

Rogers is an interesting guy. He's had some very nice success in a hitter's league, with a 2.64 ERA. He gives up less than a hit per inning, but doesn't have a superior K rate. '72 had a short scouting report on him last year, telling Redszone that he was working 92-96 with good command. The MilB website called him a "sinkerballer".

I don't think he has the stuff to stick as a starter, but he could be a nice prospect to watch as he continues through the system. He might be a really nice relief arm, especially if he is indeed armed with a sinker. That would absolutely play in the GABP.

Cincinnati has found some really nice late-round guys in the past two or three drafts. Guys like Rogers, Bryson Smith, Steve Selsky, David Vidal, and Tucker Barnhart were 8th round and lower. All have some interesting facets to their game and at all of them have played above their draft status.

dougdirt
07-14-2012, 10:57 AM
Rogers is an interesting guy. He's had some very nice success in a hitter's league, with a 2.64 ERA. He gives up less than a hit per inning, but doesn't have a superior K rate. '72 had a short scouting report on him last year, telling Redszone that he was working 92-96 with good command. The MilB website called him a "sinkerballer".

I don't think he has the stuff to stick as a starter, but he could be a nice prospect to watch as he continues through the system. He might be a really nice relief arm, especially if he is indeed armed with a sinker. That would absolutely play in the GABP.

Cincinnati has found some really nice late-round guys in the past two or three drafts. Guys like Rogers, Bryson Smith, Steve Selsky, David Vidal, and Tucker Barnhart were 8th round and lower. All have some interesting facets to their game and at all of them have played above their draft status.

Rogers has been mostly 90-93 as a starter this year, but he is still a two pitch guy. He works down in the zone well. Future reliever, but one with some potential.

Tuff Nut
07-14-2012, 11:26 AM
Both the AA and AAA seasons will be all but over by the time callups happen. He'll stay in AA unless something major happens.
Good Deal. Pensacola is having a nice 2nd half, and with additions, have a good nucleus of players, with lots of promise, imo.

Scrap Irony
07-14-2012, 11:57 AM
Definitely agree with that.

C Tucker Barnhart
3B David Vidal
SS Billy Hamilton
CF Ryan LaMarre
SP Tony Cingrani
SP Daniel Corcino
SP Kyle Lotzkar
SP JC Sulbaran
RP Brian Pearl
RP Drew Hayes

That's 10 guys that will all likely grab at least a cup of coffee in the majors, not including others, like Fellhauer, Mills, and that ilk who should make some really nice minor league depth.

Nice balance to the team as well. High ceiling paired with low floor guys with a bunch of baseball rats thrown in.

bellhead
07-14-2012, 12:21 PM
Doug,

Do you see Rogers as a 5th to 7th inning guy who comes in when we are behind or tied, or a 6th to 8th guy who called on to hold and/or be the setup guy?

dougdirt
07-14-2012, 01:27 PM
Doug,

Do you see Rogers as a 5th to 7th inning guy who comes in when we are behind or tied, or a 6th to 8th guy who called on to hold and/or be the setup guy?

He is a good FB/SL guy from the bullpen. Could be a 7th inning guy, maybe an 8th inning guy if his stuff continues to progress in its consistency.